Guild Wars 2

Viking Jorun.5413:

Vesuvius.9874:

Brother Grimm.5176:

Xenon.4537:

Whats the average burn damage? WP posted a video where he got 19k for about 2-3 seconds using every burn duration and proc he could. How is 19k burn different from a 19k backstab or 100blades?

Because you can’t do a 19K backstab or 100-blades every second while actively avoiding being hit? Burning SHOULD hit hard, but not that hard.

You know, just like you can’t do 19K burn every second. Not sure how ONE tick of 19K burn equates to “zomg!!11! 19K burn every second!!QQ!11!”

Because you can’t land a single backstab for that much, let alone land a backstab for that much and still have copious amounts of survivability.

21k backstab damage.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/One-shotted-by-theif-18519-damage/first#post5215422

70K+ backstab damage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHTwL3013GA

Still think 19K is too much?

phys.7689:

People need to stop talking about condition duration like its a comparable stat. Condition duration isnt available on armor or accesories. The game is not built with condi duration as a primary or secondary stat.

They have moved even further away from it being a stat.

Point is you cant run condi duration in armor/accesories even if you want to. Which means for a max condi build you have an almost Complete secondary stats worth of another stat.

Essentially you get more for less investment

Wrong. Just like you need more precision to land more crits, you need more condi duration to maintain the stacks of condis you apply. Working hard to add a stack of condis that don’t last long is as dumb as running a power build without precision.

Brother Grimm.5176:

Xenon.4537:

Whats the average burn damage? WP posted a video where he got 19k for about 2-3 seconds using every burn duration and proc he could. How is 19k burn different from a 19k backstab or 100blades?

Because you can’t do a 19K backstab or 100-blades every second while actively avoiding being hit? Burning SHOULD hit hard, but not that hard.

You know, just like you can’t do 19K burn every second. Not sure how ONE tick of 19K burn equates to “zomg!!11! 19K burn every second!!QQ!11!”

Xenon.4537:

Ragnar the Rock.3174:

How about instead of nerfing conditions (especially ones that some specs are reliant on as their soul damaging condition) we instead look at other ways to fix the problem.

For PvE it would make sense for boss type creatures to have access to the resistance boon, condition cleanses or possibly even a flat condi damage reduction.

For PvP it would also make sense for every class to be given varying degrees of the new resistance boon.
It could be tacked on to various traits, skills, utilities etc…

That would solve allot of the problems in PvP.

If they continue to persist then other solutions could be looked at.

This, this, and more of this. You all cry “nerf” now, but what happens when they add the resistance boon? Will you cry “buff”?

Well said. Given this community, I think that’s exactly what’s going to happen.

The meta shifted.

I believe they’ve already implemented that.

Harper.4173:

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

Zerk Meta is dying….
Sinister will take it place except vs condition resisting foes or objects.

Except conditions will get nerfed in the next update. Things melt so fast it’s practically a certainty condi will be nerfed

By nerfing condis if the zerker meta is brought back, then the nerf will undermine everything that came out in the last patch. I don’t think ANET will do that. I’m expecting a very subtle nerf to condis realistically. Ideal case would be to balance both condis and zerker builds.

Rezzet.3614:

in just 2 seconds i apply 12 stacks of burning and thats not mentioning the extra 2 stacks i can add with trait every couple seconds thats easily 6k damage per second i also have bleeding on the side enough to deal 2500-2900 per second need i to say how high the numbers climb up with confusion torment and poison

you may cleane them bbut not all professions have reliable cleanses and the icing of the cake is all of this skills have cooldowns as low as 4 seconds with the highest being 12 seconds while 1 single cleanse will have a minimum of 15-20 seconds

And what defense do we have against critical damage? Aegis? that too has a very long cool down. Blind? prevents only one attack like aegis and disappears. Don’t even try to bring up toughness because if that was a thing, zerker meta would never have existed.

Forsaken.7015:

Condition damage shouldnt be able to compete with power when it comes to damage output. It’s ridiculous to think that it should be equal to power

Why shouldn’t condition damage be able to compete with power? Why is it ridiculous to think that?

Forsaken.7015:

if that were the case then no one thats number crunching would run power.

No one would run power? You mean like how in the zerker meta no one ran condis?

sniperman.1738:

I’m not the only one noticing how Condi damage has made, world bosses even easier just by how fast they melt now, however knowing you three are probably condi users and will defend condi with your life.

Says the zerker.

The world bosses took longer previously because condi builds weren’t contributing as much in terms of damage. Now that condi builds can dish out as much damage as zerker builds, why is everyone surprised that it is taking less time to kill a world boss? The more damage you deal, the faster the boss goes down. Simple math my friend.

Fix the world bosses. No one wants to go back to a meta where power builds are the only viable ones.

Making the world bosses challenging has nothing to do with “fixing” condition damage. Suggesting that capping condition damage will somehow make world bosses challenging is the same as saying capping berserker build damage will make world bosses challenging.

The world bosses themselves need a rework.

Valento.9852:

People can stand zerker meta for almost 3 years, but when condis go strong it’s all “oh mai gahd nerffzz pl0x”.

LOL! summed up so beautifully!

Is it wrong to ask a troll for all its in-game gold?

Yunielesca.2850:

They will never do this, the exchange rate would collapse.

It will also create a tear in the fabric of space-time and mass entropy would cause the universe to contract under its own weight causing said tear in fabric of space-time to re-emerge from without and nullifying all matter and anti-matter into the void of oblivion.

To the OP, I’m going to save you some time and a whole lot of frustration. You can thank me later. Please read this quote:

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former. – Albert Einstein

My suggestion to you is to stop fighting against the infinite amount of human stupidity that pervades our planet. You’re not going to win.

You’re welcome!

Daniel Handler.4816:

not sure what SAB had to do with space.

Just saying that SAB was just as out of place in the GW universe as the idea of space and space travel.

Explodie.9428:

Vesuvius.9874:

Explodie.9428:

How come they have the technology but never went to the moon or created space travel?

Because it would make for an ub3r boring storyline. Also, I don’t particularly like Star Wars or Star Trek.

Its not ment for space battle or such, but actually Mankind always wanted to go the moon since always so i wondered why not in tyria. Its not that Anet should add it but i always wondered why there hasnt been an atempt in gw2 or a record of it that they tried.

I know but can you imagine a part of the community going on an on about “omg first they block off access to Cantha and Elona, now they won’t let us goto the Moon? QQ!”

I believe whole space travel thing sounds very strange and awkward given the genre of the game. Can you imagine SAB being part of the actual lore of Tyria? That was just an April Fool’s joke and the whole community is up in arms about SAB not returning. Imagine with the whole moon/space travel thing. Eww, please let’s not add another SAB-like element to the game.

Explodie.9428:

How come they have the technology but never went to the moon or created space travel?

Because it would make for an ub3r boring storyline. Also, I don’t particularly like Star Wars or Star Trek.

It’s about 0% possible.

Wasn’t there a similar thread on how everyone will stop reviving because of megaservers?

lol something funny about a user named Gwen asking about the Eye of the North… :P

lol this thread made my crappy morning so much better

Darkness.9732:

I basicly always solo in wvw…
That’ s what i can’ t understand : 10 stacks of bleeding applied by only 1 player ( Me)….will do more damage after patch or less damage?^

That depends on what the value for Condition Damage is for you. If this number is greater than 700, you will do more damage. If it is lower than 700, then you will do less damage after patch.

Surprised no one mentioned Crystal Oasis.

The title of this thread is misleading. How can the expansion be delayed when a release date was never announced?

Swagger.1459:

Vesuvius.9874:

Swagger.1459:

Anet has a headquarters filled with a ton of talented staff and makes millions of dollars per month, don’t you think they are capable of doing a better and more meaningful job with professions?

I have no doubt that ANET is fully capable of developing stuff given their talented staff, but that stuff doesn’t come for free. You have to throw money at it first. You claim they make “millions of dollars per month”. Can you cite any sources for this?

Look up ncsoft’s public financial records that can be found on their site for yourself..

Umm why would I look up NCSoft’s public financial records if I want to find out what ANET is making? You really have no idea, do you?

Swagger.1459:

Anet has a headquarters filled with a ton of talented staff and makes millions of dollars per month, don’t you think they are capable of doing a better and more meaningful job with professions?

I have no doubt that ANET is fully capable of developing stuff given their talented staff, but that stuff doesn’t come for free. You have to throw money at it first. You claim they make “millions of dollars per month”. Can you cite any sources for this?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that is intentional. Warriors are meant to be masters of using as many weapons as possible, hence the high weapon count. Other professions have different mechanics to make up for this supposed disparity. Elementalists, for example, have access to only a handful of weapons, but they make up for it through the attunement mechanics.

Arietta The Broken.1875:

So, you ask me what I am willing to pay for/what I think is worth paying for.

So I provided you with what I felt was worth paying for, and you can’t disagree with any of it, realise you’re wrong and give a kitten reply. gj.

No what I’m implying is you’re part of the set of people that is never satisfied with and appreciate what they get.

Maybe OP should start an Occupy LA movement to protest “unfair” pricing :P On that note, I’ve always wanted a Lamborghini but its sooooo expensive QQ. Excuse me while I go throw a hissy fit outside their HQ.

I’m smelling a troll here. On the other hand, this thread is a very amusing look at contemporary human intellect. Thank you for this OP!

Arietta The Broken.1875:

New Fractals – Not rehashed living story crap – Ideas

All the Missions from GW1
Elite Areas from GW1 – The Deep/Urgoz/FoW/UW/DoA
Dungeons from GW1 – Shards of Orr/Cathedral of Flame/Oolas Lab

Re-work the entire Fractal structure/rewards. More gold/Pristine Relics/Relics

Introduce a Fractal NPC Vendor with Fractal Weapon skins (10 pristines each) – needs work idk im spitballing.

Imo this was what fractals was designed for in the first place

FoW/DoA/UW type instances -Elite Areas
Requiring 8 man teams to spend 40+mins in to actually clear
(High risk/Reward System) being able to fail instance (not just keep trying till I win/give up)

Change dungeons to require all paths to be completed. Or remove the path system completely and make a Normal Mode/Hard Mode explorable of each dungeon incorporating the elements from each path.

(This would mean Normal Mode and Hard mode are different paths)

Up the rewards to 120 tokens NM 200 tokens HM (once per day NM or HM not both)

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New maps – Already here

Open world

More bosses like Tequatl/Vinewrath/Trip Trouble – However even those do tend to be do mechanic then spam 1.

Buff up older maps – Queensdale, make rifts that appear at certain times and change the shadow Behemoth into the Shadow Aataxe (idk random thought) and make it actually a challenging engaging fight.

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WvW – Not HoT specific but included

Remove the WvW concept that is “World Vs World” instead make EBG a multi server bloodbath (similar to EoTM but the same map as EBG)
Borderlands still work in the same way but point gain gives buffs (to ally servers) and reduction in siege stuff.

Obviously increase the EBG cap limit. But the home borderlands would be split into 6 servers in each kinda thing.

Home borderlands would need some sort of incentive to defend/attack too so some specific rewards for home BL fighting/enemy BL fighting (different to the multi server EBG)

Winning the round (weekly) granted the winning participating servers(and participating players) with unique rewards EXCLUSIVE TO THE WVW FIGHTING
Similar to how tournaments worked etc)

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20vs 20 PvP guild Raids (Guild Battles)

Open world (like WvW maps but much much smaller with no buildings) for open world 20v20 death match fights. Maybe a bit smaller(15 or 10) would be some terrain (hills/corners/bridges)
Winning teams gain 3k PvP rank points/Guild Comms
Losing teams gain 1k Pvp Rank/less/no comms

New PvP Maps for COnquest

New PvP maps for Teamdeath match (ie courtyard)

Underwater combat map returns!!!!!!! (qq)

Yeaaaaaah you know what the funny thing is? You’d still have a “meh” reaction to all that too.

Arietta The Broken.1875:

What new game modes?
-PvP Strong hold. Okay that’s one.
I have tried this and honestly it was more pve based than pvp. Promised to be the “guild wars” when its 5v5 whut?

-New maps I mentioned already.
-New profession is great, but other than the new maps.. is gonna be in the same dungeons/fractals/pve so levelling it to 80 is no different than the other 8 characters.

-Guild Halls – a new Home instance for crafting stations and meeting up? Yay, can’t travel to different instances as a party sooooooooo.. meh.

The specialisation system/elite specialisation isn’t really changing that much. It’s ultimately going to be press 1 and win @world bosses (which is the majority of the new pve we’re getting in the HoT update) Be honest with yourself please.

Etc Etc? Expand please.
New WvW maps, everyone gets these.

Then how about you take a stab at what you think should be included in HoT that is worth paying for?

Arietta The Broken.1875:

I don’t even see realistically right now that HoT is anything other than just a bundle of QoL changes with some new maps.

Yeah the completely new profession, new maps, new elite specializations, new masteries, new guild halls, new game modes etc etc. are just dumb QoL changes. Who in their right mind would even want to pay for something like that?

Stark.1350:

Once again, I’m excited for the expansion.

Unfortunately it’s release is a minimum of a little less than 3 months away.

Going to have to have something to fill that gap. Can’t keep throwing up mirages in place of the oasis – your audience will die of dehydration long before it arrives.

For those who say, take a break, I can’t. I am a guild leader and my members are bored – repetitive weekly events are barely filling the time.

I’d like to see at least minor communication about what is happening with the base game and whether or not we can expect ANYTHING until release time.

How is minor communication about what is happening going to solve your problem of bored guild members?

Andraus.3874:

Maybe if sticky thread was at the top or bottom of the list of threads and had ALERT or SCAM in caps it might catch more people’s attention and this wouldn’t get posted like two time a day.

People wouldn’t read it just like the obvious note at the end of the in-game mail that says the message is from another player.

Ascii Red.4029:

I have seen a small group of people who actually want to do this event chain stopped by people who want the event to fail

So when you say they were stopped, how exactly were they stopped? Did the commander put a gun to everyone’s head and told them to stop? Not sure why everyone couldn’t just continue on with the event… bizarre really…

New content will be available “When It’s Ready”™

Cheers mate!

Tiger Ashante.1792:

And OP, i totally agree, they last last way too long, especially when u’ve been knocked down and was about to get up, then something else knocks you back again even b4 you found your footings. Not only that, but the enemies keep attacking you whilst on the ground. It’s not challenging, it’s hideously annoying. I mean what’s so challenging of constantly disabling your character, while their face is being smashed?

Why wouldn’t you use skills to counter these mechanics when you know you will run into them? That just sounds like poor gameplay on your part.

When are people going to learn how to play the game instead of QQing about how certain mechanics are wrong just because they don’t like them?

Xillllix.3485:

Well I’m not saying it, it’s a simple fact that the game mechanics favors bigger blobs, other than skills and players numbers the AoE cap and stability change are a buff to blobs and a nerf to smaller groups. It’s not as if blobs needed the game mechanics to be in their advantage, considering they have more people to start with.

And what you’re describing is the nature of WvW. It is intended to be like that. That is true of any war throughout history. The bigger your army, the bigger your chances that you will win.

Xillllix.3485:

Carighan.6758:

pdavis.8031:

3 vs 15 Got CC’d to death because you didn’t have enough stability.

Sounds like it’s working as intended. 3 people should not be immune to that much incoming CC.

It does make sense, yes. 3 people should not be able to seriously impact 15 people trying to roll in.
That’s in addition to me personally preferring stack-based effects (in general) because that gives more things to tweak.

That being said, WvW has an overall issue where it doesn’t encourage the two less-populated realms to group up in some meaningful manner. That’s really all it needs to do. Instead it rewards the top two realms raining down on the least populated one.

Whatever it is the stability changes nerfed outnumbered teams and favors zerging, it’s the complete opposite of what WvW needs. Honestly if 5 amazing players could defeat 15 bad players it would be good for the game. Instead Anet is encouraging blobs spamming 1 and rolling over smaller servers.

Also half the problem is the Area of Effect limit, which is way too low.

When 5 people fight a group of 10 people literally half the AoE damage is lost in the AoE cap for the smaller group, but for the group of 10 all their AoE hits target. It’s honestly quite unfair; other games like ESO found the following solution which is way times better than GW2 limit: As an AoE hits more and more targets the damage dealt to additional targets decreases by some scaled percentage.

lol soooo you’re saying that when uneven numbered teams face off against each other, it is unfair to one team. I think you’re in the wrong game mode. Maybe try your hand at PvP which actually does have evenly matched teams pitted against each other.

Rauderi.8706:

Vesuvius.9874:

You know guys, no one is forcing you to buy things in the gem store, right?

I don’t think the bulk of the argument is in being “forced to buy,” though.

Outfits have “pieces” (though they really don’t) that would be really cool to add to the wardrobe, but those bits are unavailable without the entire outfit. Some people want to mix/match outfits, but the pieces aren’t available as a set, just the one item. They say they would buy it if it were a set.

I get the argument, but it’s phrased the wrong way, most of the time. “qq stop outfits” is unproductive, when what the players want/need for this is the option to use those outfit pieces as “pieces,” even though it might not be technically possible. If it is possible, the request should be “Can we have outfits as armor sets as well?” and “Can we earn more armor pieces in game?”

Right and the way you’ve put it makes it an entirely different argument from what the topic of this thread is. Sure the game could do with more collectible armour sets that can be won from dungeons or elsewhere in the game.

You know guys, no one is forcing you to buy things in the gem store, right?

Dalwhat.2867:

Certainly the double fractal should be consigned to the dustbin of history.

No, I like the double fractal dailies. Let’s me kill two birds with one stone. I enjoy fractals and I enjoy the rewards that come with it. This should stay as it is.

Belzebu.3912:

Vesuvius.9874:

Adapt to changes in your environment or perish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival_of_the_fittest

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Survival_of_the_Fittest :P

LOL thank you for that!

Xillllix.3485:

Huh I’m talking about a videogame balance, not natural selection. as far as I know there is no AoE cap in nature,

Adapt to changes in game or perish.

Adapt to changes in your environment or perish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival_of_the_fittest

Yes, ANET! Enough with the gem store items. We need to you stop making money to keep the company running and paying people who keep feeding an providing for their families with their unending needs.

Jeez this really has to stop!

Zenthieth.9431:

These fractal dailies go completely against what Anet wanted the daily system to be. just go inside one fractal of the correct scale (today being a 21-30) and you have already done two of your dailies. No going out to different corners of the world, just pretty much sitting in Lion’s Arch.

Why is you going out to different corners of the world dependent on the daily checklist that ANET hands out? Why can’t you go out into these corners yourself, without anyone telling you to do so?

Still think the problem lies with the dailies?