Guild Wars 2

I think the OP needs to move around a few servers and see how small some of the numbers are on a lot of servers outside of prime time. 15 people to build a ram? Not going to happen for a lot of servers.

Thinking that people are going to supply run to what will now be permanently drained camps to build defensive siege at 150 a pop when you get people throwing down siege randomly is dreaming- everyone will assume someone else is doing it, and no one will get it done.

If you try and run your zerg back and forth just to build siege see how long it takes before people stop following you- defence doesn’t get you anything, so most people won’t bother.

Upping the supply used to create siege isn’t the problem- it’s getting people to the tower to defend it in time that is. You might have spend all that supply building a couple defensive ac, but if no one is prepared to sit on them or refresh them (almost all siege despawns at some point due to not being refreshed) then it’s just wasted.

The problem is that gates melt way too fast as there is no cap on the amount of rams that can be built at a gate- 6 superior and the gate just melts in seconds. If you think of sieges, there would be one or a maximum of two rams, so maybe the solution is to cap the number of rams at a gate to two. This would give defenders a little time to organise a defence and reach the tower to defend it before it’s flipped.

Was a good night when I finally got through the queues (trying to enter at 8-8.30pm just doesn’t happen, so finishing off some PS…).

Thanks to all that died at my hands and also to all those that killed me, been a fun week and if I can ever get through the prime time queues it will be even better.

The problem you are experiencing is called ‘fair weather player syndrome’. The server starts losing (usually after a good comm/guild leaves) and people get disheartened, preferring to spend their time in mindless zerg trains of champ farming/scarlet/LW which yields them much better returns with little to no risk of having to play their toon properly or learn how their class works.

Less players= less wins= less players..you get the idea.

If your server suddenly started winning then I guarantee the fair weather players would all be back in wvw zerging away happily- right up until you hit a hard match, when they all disappear back into pve.

It would help if commanders were more realistic about their targets, and more people stuck with them rather than wondering off to do their own thing (being wiped time after time trying to take Bay will make roamers/quitters out of most people). Too many commanders tend to focus on the most obvious big target even when there are 10 of you and you know there are at least two groups of 20 of the enemy just waiting to stomp you after you deploy the rams at the outer gate. Playing smart and avoiding battles you cannot possibly win makes for a much more enjoyable time than being stomped all the time. Some of the best fun I’ve had in wvw is with a small group of 10 vs an entire full border of enemies- porting, splitting into two groups and timing attacks on the two top camps, reforming, ninja attacks on towers and generally outwitting the enemy.

Most lower tier servers don’t properly utilise a server ts and don’t have strong wvw guilds- but can easily muster 80-100 people for a Jormag.

Rangers are still in a bad place compared to other classes secondary ranged abilities.

Two recent examples: kill shot 17152 damage from a warrior using a secondary weapon while rapid fire (miss, miss, dodge/blocked/evaded) did around 7k damage, most of which was regenned out by the warrior’s passive healing.

Thief: 5 or 6 different conditions applied by SB in around 1 second including 6 stacks of torment. Meanwhile ranger SB takes about ten minutes to apply that sort of damage.

Pet damage on moving targets is still a joke- as I’m maining an engineer (having been forced by time gating/ranks being char bound) and used to play ranger I can avoid any damage from a pet completely.

Pets are useless when defending or attacking any structure in wvw (unless you just use passive- even then they tend to run off into the aoe or die anyway), so you are kitten there.

They need to separate wvw skills and cooldowns from pve and give rangers much better functionality, reduce or remove the cooldown on pet swap/down time, better condi removal, much better pet ai and much better chance for arrows to actually hit the target.

Got everything ready for Quip apart from the 500 dungeon tokens, and don’t think I can ever be bored enough to put myself through that for the number of times I would have to in order to get the tokens.

I really wish those stupid tokens were tradeable, no idea why they aren’t apart from forcing people to do content they would much rather NOT do.

Here’s how the server shutdown discussion went at ANet:

‘any other issues surrounding server shutdown’
Devon: ‘what are we going to do about wvw scores?’
‘what?’
Devon: ‘wvw scores’
‘what?’
Devon: ‘you know, wvw.’
‘nope, what’s wvw?’

Thread is boring as the old wvw players can’t get in to wvw to play, or have left for other servers^. Queues all the time.

With all the time gating, etc I’ve basically had to choose between accounts as it was taking up too much time to be able to progress both. SFR account lost the battle (for the moment), decided to stick to one toon, my engineer on Gandara, and see how fast I can level up the ranks on there.

Looking forward to the new gvg area in OS- hopefully they will create a new section of the forums for it too, and then a proper gvg league will be borne.

Will be interesting to see how this affects wvw- maybe it will be easier to get onto maps during primetime!

Great fun last night when I was finally able to get in- I’m going to have to find something else to do between 8pm and 9.30/10.30pm when the q finally pops, but the battles in EB made up for the wait.

Highlight of the day was when an entire GH zerg changed course just to chase me down (warriors caught me up…grrr) but it was a fun couple of minutes leading them away from our attack:-)

I’ve stopped playing my SFR a/c- with the increasing time gating (laurels, crafting , etc) and incoming ascended gears, coupled with crazy queue times, it’s just not even worth logging on for.

So, EU based player looking for suggestions as to a new home that doesn’t have queues during say 2-5pm USA eastern time (LF USA server). Silver league preferred.

Good fun this morning /early afternoon with CNTK leading the way, not only capping bay but fighting off attack after attack (lots of loot bags!). GJ!

Appears these threads tend to get removed rather than answered.

No. Elitism. And free gems? Not going to happen.

Anything based on time spent in wvw or wvw rank isn’t going to fly, as it is elitism of the worst sort.

Any system based on wvw ‘experience’ is a totally flawed idea, as you are trying to restrict access to part of the game based on a meaningless number, and it will also be biased against newer players (who are more likely to spend money in the gem shop).

They need to spend some money and seriously upgrade the servers, and then have multiple ‘entrance to mists’ areas that give wexp, drops and count in some small way towards the overall score, so there is never a q for the overall area.

The ‘entrance to mists’ areas can automatically scale so outnumbered teams gain bonuses to stats making them harder to kill, and will make waiting for the q to pop fun, instead of the absolute bore it is now.

Without knowing what the current population limit actually is, a description of the current queuing system and outmanned system and some input from Anet on this, the thread is kitten ing in the wind.

All suggestions that higher ranks or guilds should be given priority in queues should be ignored-that’s just ‘leet’ people being selfish as normal.

They do need to sort out the queue, so that it is a real queue and not a RNG with people being able to skip it, etc. And a timer is an absolute must- sitting around for hours waiting for it to pop is getting very tedious- you can’t really do a dungeon or anything else whilst waiting for it, apart from join the (yawn) champ train.

Nike.2631:

GOSU.9574:

Because you haven’t gone into Beastmaster to improve your pet and you insist on using melee pets against bosses/large scale encounters. The beginners stream may be just what you need.

Which leads so logically into the question ‘Why do I suffer a 25% hit to my DPS for a class mechanic that only (vaguely) works right if I sacrifice 40% of my trait points on the altar of beastmastery and even then only if I’m using a type of pet that makes up less than 20% of the range of choices?’

Which also leads to: I have three rangers, and have tried every build you can think of in wvw, and if you didn’t see the obvious, my ‘pve’ question was geared towards wvw- as we all know if you ask specifically about wvw they all get blank looks on their faces.

PVE isn’t the major problem for rangers- it’s wvw doing anything other than soloing..

For pve: why does my pet die so much and yet there is a huge cooldown after both pets are dead? What other class suffers a 50% damage nerf whenever something decides to throw out a random skill that wipes your pet?

If i’m awake the only class i struggle against a solo thief on is my zerk built ranger- but that is built for a specific purpose and I don’t expect to be able to beat most soloists on it anyway.

Usually I see 2 or 3 thiefs together these days which causes problems and can be a bit annoying as it’s basically exploiting a broken mechanic to win – but at the end of the day the chances of Anet bringing in a real counter to stealth is about the same as me winning the lottery, so learn to live with the fact that sometimes something will pop out of stealth and wipe you before you can move.

DreamOfACure.4382:

Personally, I don’t see why PvE creatures didn’t have downed-states to begin with.

They made a huge deal about it, yet their PvE wasn’t build around it. Why not?!
If (sentient?) creatures had downed states, their basic AI could have been made more interesting – Like more frequent auto-attacks (letting us make use of confuse/retaliation), or shorter aggro + longer leashing, etc..

OP, like with many previous content releases, if you don’t like it, DON’T PARTICIPCATE.

People who don’t care about large-scale raids steer clear of Tequatl. People who dislike Dungeons don’t be trekking into the Aetherblades path. Etcetera, etcetera…

I, for one, am glad they are introducing Downed-states and “Finishing” to PvE.

Yes, it wasn’t tedious enough before killing brainless mobs that spam conditions, now you get to run over and finish them whilst the other 5 spam aoe conditions at the spot you are now standing on…

Of course for melee classes stamping something you are right next to takes 0 effort- but for squishy ranged classes that want to stay ranged it can be a bit of a problem- but then thiefs can finish in stealth and warriors/guardians can just stand there and /laugh at the damage…

Makes pve even more tedious than it was before. Bad idea.

Actually , the only thing wrong with dungeons is the complete lack of solo mode.

I find myself needing 500 of a dungeon token to complete my legendary- but having never done that dungeon before, I don’t want to be dragging the rest of the group down and so I find myself avoiding doing it at all….

NvN.4321:

Victory.2879:

On a totally different note, I have to say that fighting as an engineer against melee trains is so much fun from even on top of a rock, or just dodge roll twice then it’s free damage!

It’s not the melee train that kills, it’s the combined spike from backline. It takes effort to stop good melee train and it takes A LOT of effort to efficiently drive one.
As for your post before :
Outside of prime time there are many opportunities for you to tag up, use the TS channel and command your desired game play. You’ll get to drive 30 man zerg most of the time.
Ask them to join you on TS. Most of the people on TS will be from w3 guilds and will know how to fight. Up to you to coordinate them and shape the borderland.

Take initiative outside of forum posting. Forum posting is easy mode.

Only one problem_ I can’t use ts due to real life issues. If you want to know why, pm me, as it’s not something I care for the whole world to know. I used to lead 80 man battles in PW, etc etc but sadly cannot any more.

Much better effort last night- although after the reset I saw a couple small roaming guild groups in EB. I think we all just a little jaded with the appearance of pve in wvw with the latest LW update, and by 11.30pm there weren’t many left on EB and even less on borders.

Gotta love those updates…

Nemesys.7251:

Victory.2879:

Was stuck on FS BL last night while we had two guild raids pointlessly running about looking for the oppositions guild raids to run into each other and gather loot bags/become them. Massive queues during prime time meant I couldn’t escape.

Whilst the guild ‘raids’ were on, no comm tagged until near the end which attracted 10-15 people.

For the entirety of the time the guilds were on, we held exactly one camp, one tower. Then after the small pug group spent the time knocking down the gates we finally waved carrots at the guild raids who condescended to grace us with their presence to fight inside bay and take it (as there were defenders to kill).

I’m sure the guild fights were great fun, but they contributed almost nothing to the score for the whole evening, and in a match up that is this close that could really have hurt the server. Watching one ‘melee train’ fight another ‘melee train’ was about the most tedious thing I have seen in wvw, Stop, Buff. Charge. Hammers. Press 1, press 1, press1. Stop. Buff. Keep in a ball. Water fields. Blast. Wells. Yawn. Why people still stand and wave at it from the front I have no idea- they are quite easy to beat on an open field with a bit of co ordination as the balling up is also their downfall, as is the reliance on the the eles and necros who tend to be on the wings, and the ball tends to focus all it’s damage to the front.

As soon as the guild raids were over a comm tagged up and we were able to have some nice fights and actually hold on to some points as well.

more funny bashing a door or sitting on ac right?if u want a server who play like u want transfer on abbadon mouth then.

As usual, most people’s comments are missing the point.

It would be more useful if the guild groups didn’t ONLY chase around the enemy 20 man guild groups and then run into each other spamming 1, spin around, rebuff, rinse, repeat. I’m sure it’s great fun, and each to their own. I’m not asking them to spend all their time pvd (or even pvdefence squads)- just a little consideration for what you are leaving behind for others to have to deal with.

The problems this cause only show up after they finish their raids- when people notice that enemy towers are now all t3 with full supplies and camps are fully upgraded.

It was VERY noticable on that particular BL on that particular night, and hence why I felt it would be good to mention it on the forums.

Perhaps in future guilds can try and co ordinate a bit better and consider all the players in wvw, not just their own interests (i know, human nature..), and maybe have the smaller of the raids tag up for a bit and fight for some objectives (don’t worry, plenty of defenders to kill, they just don’t die to mindless melee trains).

On a totally different note, I have to say that fighting as an engineer against melee trains is so much fun from even on top of a rock, or just dodge roll twice then it’s free damage!

Was stuck on FS BL last night while we had two guild raids pointlessly running about looking for the oppositions guild raids to run into each other and gather loot bags/become them. Massive queues during prime time meant I couldn’t escape.

Whilst the guild ‘raids’ were on, no comm tagged until near the end which attracted 10-15 people.

For the entirety of the time the guilds were on, we held exactly one camp, one tower. Then after the small pug group spent the time knocking down the gates we finally waved carrots at the guild raids who condescended to grace us with their presence to fight inside bay and take it (as there were defenders to kill).

I’m sure the guild fights were great fun, but they contributed almost nothing to the score for the whole evening, and in a match up that is this close that could really have hurt the server. Watching one ‘melee train’ fight another ‘melee train’ was about the most tedious thing I have seen in wvw, Stop, Buff. Charge. Hammers. Press 1, press 1, press1. Stop. Buff. Keep in a ball. Water fields. Blast. Wells. Yawn. Why people still stand and wave at it from the front I have no idea- they are quite easy to beat on an open field with a bit of co ordination as the balling up is also their downfall, as is the reliance on the the eles and necros who tend to be on the wings, and the ball tends to focus all it’s damage to the front.

As soon as the guild raids were over a comm tagged up and we were able to have some nice fights and actually hold on to some points as well.

Gandara has piles of people all milling about and wondering off doing their own stuff, no idea where you got the idea that there are no solo roamers- although we have so many aimless wonderers maybe you mistook them for groups.

Just attack one of them- most of the others won’t even notice and you’re pretty much guaranteed an easy kill.

Personally I’m hoping I get to play in prime time before the match up is over.

The queues have been insane in Gandara all weekend- 10am on a Sunday morning there was a 1.5 hour queue…and this is EU silver league. Getting in at prime time is a joke, and between 8pm-10.30pm is just a waste of time trying.

What’s amusing about Gandara is that come around 11-11.30 pm it goes from full to empty, with maybe 20 following the comm and 60 or so AG border hopping and capping everything.

SFR- I’m beginning to forget what wvw even looks like there, it’s been a complete wash out as far as getting in is concerned. After almost a year on the server, considering moving to somewhere a lot less crowded- but I do enjoy the massive battles and the bags that go with them, so need to find somewhere that still has some of that.

As for getting the achievements on SFR, not even going to try- can’t even get in.

Outmanned servers would still be outmanned and frequently slaughtered, so not sure how this would encourage anyone to enter a BL to help out when they face huge odds- then they check out your ratio and find that it’s 8:1 in the OP server’s favour, now they won’t even bother entering, making the score even worse.

Can’t see any positives to having such a score.

Vol.5241:

People like OP is why we have people camp the JP.

If you can’t beat two thieves with a squad, then tough luck

I beat the thiefs on my own- it was the next two that attacked as i was stomping the second that managed to get me that time.

Like I have said elsewhere, if you can’t come out into wvw and battle against players then keep hiding in the JP- maybe you just fail so badly out there that your only chance of killing another player is in the JP? It’s a place for the weak to make themselves feel better by killing pve’rs or by ganging up on a solo player.

JP gankers make me laugh- an almost complete waste of space who contribute nothing to their server whilst taking up spaces in wvw that could be better used by people who might want to help their server in the match up. And I really mean, I laugh. To me, your pathetic and deserving of sympathy, but if that’s what you enjoy in the game, then go right ahead.

SonOfKrypton.4357:

Daghet.8932:

Good idea Azraelle, why not just kill all the PVE players, making them take longer to do jumping puzzles, making them stay in WvW longer.

I agree with Coldin, a simple wave, get the puzzle done, and those ‘PVE’ players can just go back to PVE or join your zerg. Don’t complain about PVE’s in WvW if you just kill them and not allow them to do what they came to do and get out quick.

They’re so juicy though? ;-;

They haven’t mastered the art of running away like other “WvW Players.” This makes them all too delicious. Besides, the Obsidian Sanctum is a map of its own now, the PvEers in the JP aren’t taking up any queue spots so the amount of time they spend there doesn’t equal a handi-cap for the server, it equals more fun for moi!

Bon Appétit!

Does anyone else read this as ’I’m useless at killing real wvw players who are prepared for me, so to make myself feel better I attack pve geared players because then I can tell myself I’m a great player’….

Probably a fun match up, but no idea as failed utterly to get through the queues this weekend.

DevonCarver.5370:

We have some thing that will be in the tests for the new map that will help WvW be more alt-friendly. We will talk more about it as we get closer to the test actually beginning.

Nothing is going to be alt friendly unless you drop the char bound ranks and make it account bound.

ANYTHING other than that is just tinkering around the edges of the real issue.

I’d like to be able to feel that it’s worth playing my other toons for a bit in wvw, but losing 250 vit just so i can play on a rank 20 or 30 alt, and feeling like I’m going backwards and it’s a waste of time that I could be spending on my ‘main’, means the game has become very restrictive.

Today’s troll award goes to Aerion Magnus of FART for deliberately taking at least one Omega golem for a walk down some cliffs and destroying it. Two others also destroyed, but not sure if same guy.

‘taking ma golem’ was his response when I asked where he was going’
‘you whine a lot’ when I pointed out that they cost someone money and he was hurting the server.

No apology, no contrition, just another useless troll taking up space in wvw. Guild officer I spoke to wasn’t really that much help either- I pointed out the guy should spend time building what he had just destroyed out of his own money.

They need to create a troll cave, and put their account in it for say 24 hours of logged in game time- no way out, nothing to do, no lights, just a dark screen and if you don’t move your toon every 10 seconds, it logs you out so you can’t afk your way out of your punishment. Let’s see how they like being trolled.

Maybe then these trolls might learn their lesson.

So, another day, another troll walking off with omega golems and deliberately destroying them. No end of hurt caused to the server they supposedly belong to.

Needs to be fixed. Someone paid for the blueprint.

Total lag fest across the entire map in Gandara EB whenever a major battle takes place.

No improvement at all.

Terrible start by Gandara. Huge queues meant most of the regular commanders spent most of the evening sitting around in LA waiting for the queue RNG to pick a winner.

Guild raids refusing to tag up meant the ‘pugs’ had no one to bring them together as a force and hence the raids flipped a few things but didn’t really help the score that much whilst the ‘pugs’ milled around doing very little effective. As soon as the guild raids finished the score dropped even more, then as the queues diminished and more wvw regulars could get on we had a nice couple of hours 12-2am.

As always, EB pugland was the most organised and contributed the most to the score consistently through the evening.

Special mention goes to commander Kenras for his dogged determination to take that Hills no matter what, ignoring all other objectives on the map. He got it in the end, even if it meant we held exactly one Hills and one camp on the entire map.

Got to admit the battles were pretty awesomely good fun!

Insane queues to get into wvw tonight- basically was in queue on Gandara from 8pm until after 11.30pm when finally got into a BL having queued for all 4. Just after 12pm into EB.

Most of our regular commanders were also hanging around in LA, equally bored.

As the queueing system is broken it’s next to impossible to do anything constructive whilst you wait for the queue, as you might pop at any time. So you end up standing around doing very little and thinking ‘maybe I should find something else to play’.

Biggest problem in completing it is actually getting into wvw in the first place.

Should be account bound, and resettable once a week- ie at reset for the match up for the week, u get to assign your points for that week.

Every new player that I talk to in wvw always puts points in the ‘wrong’ categories, meaning they waste 20-30 ranks before they realise and then are annoyed at the stupidity of a system that doesn’t allow any reset at all.

DevonCarver.5370:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Official-state-of-skill-lag-and-server-optimizations

Performance is something that is being worked on for the entirety of the game. We are aware of the issues and are in the process of addressing them as rapidly as we can. Please go to the above link to get more detailed information as Bill is really the point person for all of this work right now. While the impacts of performance are quite clear in WvW, it is not isolated to just WvW and we are in the process of making these changes to the entirety of the game. Direct questions and concerns to that post.

I read this as ’ they are aware it may be impacting living world events and are working on a fix’- until it started in other content all the cries of lag from wvw were ignored. They are still ignoring it, but it so happens that Bill is working on it in another context entirely and any fix won’t be geared towards wvw but living world loot fests.

It’s designed to make warriors and guardians even better- spam aoe 1 skill while happily regenning HP, killing anyone who was stupid enough to play a medium or light armor type that relies on skills, positioning or the use of cleanses or god forbid an actual heal skill.

I’m pretty sure the lag issue would be a lot less if warrior and guardian number 1 skills were single target, and they removed the party buff priority system that was recently brought in, adding a whole new level of calculations (and obviously brought in not considering wvw servers).

ANet really need to set up a test server (same specs as a wvw server), fill up all the maps and get the players to play in massive zergs as well as small roaming groups and then analyse all the data, find out what are causing most of the lag and then fix those skills that cause the most problems, as well as giving us back the capacity that has been taken and used elsewhere.

Probably bugged – like the lag, skill freezes, etc, all show they have taken resources away from wvw to support something else when they should have upgraded the servers and spent resources on fixing all the various issues.

Instead everything is geared towards spvp (or the wastelands, as they are known).

Deli.1302:

Looks like you should stay in pve land. You obviously can’t handle pvp.

Utterly wrong, obviously you can’t read what I’m saying.

It’s the jumping part I can’t stand, and I just want to get it over with so I can get back to the pvp- you might have noted the two thiefs that attacked me died. It’s the combination of my inability to co ordinate jumping added to the oh so brave 2/3/4v1 that makes completing them a complete pain in the kitten . On a good day with no one else in there it will take me around 30 minutes to an hour to complete one.

I’m glad some people derive enjoyment from doing these. I’m also happy for those that spend their time in groups ganking people, if that’s what makes them happy. Doesn’t mean I like it.

Been a fun match up and always enjoyed the fights with EXG, especially when roaming with my necro friend- some we won, some we lost, but always a good fight.

A real shame Gandara has no night coverage, otherwise this matchup would have been extremely close.

Looking forward to the next time.

I still want to organise a ‘bring your thief’ day on Gandara, so we completely fill a BL with thiefs…

aelen.5673:

Victory.2879:

It’s still messy as hell, but at least it’s not the blamefest that SFR is.

Sounds like heaven to me, might have to transfer or something. They in need of commanders?

Need night coverage more than anything. At the moment night coverage is one man and his dog- and the dog can’t move. And a thick skin- many a commander can’t hack it and ragequits as the zerg merrily chases down the reminding 10 enemies while the commander cries ‘get on ts’ and ‘stack on me’:-).

Queues are terrible during prime , 8-10.30 at night, outside of that, not too bad- and later on, you might struggle to find a follow player. But no shortage of enemies- plenty of Desolation and AM to go find and kill.

Gandara basically you can’t get on from 8pm until between 10-11pm – and by 1am there is no one at all, which is why we’re losing the match.

SFR takes a while to get on even non-prime, but then you generally wish you hadn’t as it’s been completely overrun.

Actually I just hate all jumping puzzles, the last time I enjoyed them was when I was about 7 years old.

There is enough of them (in every living world release almost), in maps, etc to keep anyone who enjoys platform games happy- no requirement for them in wvw at all. They contribute nothing to wvw, so I fail to see why they are there, or count towards a WVW achievement (maybe they should just count towards a Jump Puzzle achievement for pve).

I was highlighting the fact that some players are sensible and allow others to just get it done and move on, whilst others get some sort of kick from denying others something. (usually they play thiefs..enough said).

Given that I totally fail at jumping in games (or in RL since about 30), or indeed anything that requires a high degree of co ordination as well as a decent connection, you might understand my frustration at their inclusion.

I’m really not that fussed about the gankers (I’ll kill plenty of them in battles in wvw, I think i’m well ahead on points there), more my own inability to be able to jump- and as I have said since beta, why are they even there?

Please remove these from wvw for season 2.

If you can’t manage that, then at least remove them from the achievements list- wvw players will tell you they have no place in wvw and really shouldn’t be there anyway (apart from no life griefers who sit there for hours in 2’s or 3’s waiting for their next victim).

Oh wait, the devs love playing thief in wvw…

As some will know, I hate JP’s with a passion, never been a fan of platform games and now I’m old these are completely no fun at all.

Anyway, started doing the EB puzzle (it’s morning, not taking up any queue space), before long met a few others, we squad up. Along the way, we pass several AM players who we either let go past or they let us go past- we’re all just there to get the JP done and get out. Finally complete it with much help from a mesmer.

Move to Deso BL. Guess what- two thief gankers sitting there just inside who attack you just after the first jump, followed in by two more griefers who managed to kill me as I was on low HP and cooldowns after the thief battle.

I still fail to see what possible enjoyment there is in double (or more) teaming against people who would rather be anywhere else then in a stupid JP in the first place- at least have the balls to go solo, not have someone to hold your hand. Is your real life really that sad?

EDIT: move to AM BL, meet people from AM, wave at each other, carry on.

Still couldn’t complete it, my co ordination keeps failing me – JP’s are not something I’ll ever be good at.

Gave up on the JP completion for wvw achievements, now have no choice other than to kill 6 million dolyaks (why are 250 dolyaks or whatever equivalent to ONE JP that takes experts 3 minutes to do..).

Please remove this kitten from wvw achievements next time- or better yet, don’t repeat achievements at all in season 2.

Yep, no credit to take them away from another server, makes you wonder who designed the achievements list, eg one JP = one achievement, hundreds of dollies or 100 camps= one achievement.

Never got anything in the door or gate category that I was hitting the entire time, except when I used ram, or treb- in fact I spent some time on the SM treb team and later treb Anza just to get the achievement.

This might have something to do with the fact that most of the time I am not in a group.

This account that I am typing this from (different from the above one) is still bugged and can’t get the ‘start of the season’ achievement- bug issue reported, waiting for a fix that works.

No idea what the fights are like – logged on for a couple hours yesterday afternoon and had no joy at getting through the queue to play for SFR, then finally got on to find lots of trash talking, people not following the comm but a pile of people spread all over the map doing their achievements.

Well they ‘achieved’ one thing- totally screwed over the server.

Gave up and logged across at Gandara, queues a little shorter today, get in to a BL and find at least some are following the Comm, and people are actually asking and being answered sensible noobie questions. The difference in attitudes has really paid off- instead of shouting and screaming at the pve’rs and demanding they get on ts or gfto, Gandara is absorbing them.

It’s still messy as hell, but at least it’s not the blamefest that SFR is.

So another condition that warriors will probably get on some auto attack and a aoe cleanse encouraging yet more zerging….so glad they give no thought to wvw when they dream up these things.