Guild Wars 2

I have a sylvari that I created for my girlfriend who was super hyped for the chef profession. We used almost only gathering ( exception for some red peppers ) to up to lvl 400. So we ended up running in all tyria for gathering herbs and stuff.

So I can tell you get a lot of experience from only dicovering and harvesting.

If you want to optimise your time, go for rich nodes and high harvest herbs like salad, spinach, strawberries, grapes

Good luck on that one

I have a technique for going in quickly ( for what it’s worth, and it’s not worth a lot…).

go near the pnj to access winter wonderland : press ‘f’, put your mouse on the accept message then don’t move it anymore it.
then you do ‘f’ + mouse click + enter (to confirm the message error ) in circle until you go in….

I agree, It’s terrible go to that extend to go in a map….

Saiyan.1704:

Another Thief QQing about how OP Guardians are…

Yall QQ’d during the Zerk Power meta era…
Yall QQ’d during the Bunker Guard meta…
Yall QQ’d during the Burn Guard meta…

70% of all Guard thread complaints come from Thieves…

Yes, we counter you Thieves pretty hard now, compared to any other meta era, but i’d imagine you people would be used to it by now.

On usual builds I would say yes, It’s frustrating to play against a DH. Then we invented the p/p power + dash most stupid troll build ever but it works so greatly against DH !

Redfeather.6401:

Because in reality, thieves make people live in constant fear. Is why everyone locks their door at night.

Yep that’s it ! just playing thief is a huge strike on ennemies moral ! It’s like having a Jedi in an intergalactic war. he is alone but the war involving millions of people end because of him.

Shinobi.3240:

Can help out. Full ascended Zerk (DD / SP / Saff/ SB / PP)
My Viper Set is not complete yet.
Commander Tag available.

Best regards!

Oh ! and please specify if you are NA or EU

I usually goes with the “hi team” then " who goes where ?" and at least one or two people answer. Usually, when you do a full sentence people answer more easily.

But I feel like people are communicating more before the match than before leagues.

Yes, sometimes you have a great strategy with all your teammates and the “mad cow syndrom” strike nonetheless….

Orpheal.8263:

Please make a video of this!! For the love of all thieves – do it

We were talking about it in the guild today, but we need people to make it happend ^^

Merry christmas forum fellows !!!!

and merry christmas to the devs too !

Planning for EU all thieves raid !

Edit: The date will be fixed once we have a full team ready !
9 people are needed ( if there is more let’s make a 2nd team ! ):

Edit:
List of the first team:
-Wargameur
-Shinobi
-Raguel
-LordMazdamundi

The team compo will be something like the following :

-3 Ebola (d/d conditions) and venomshare thief
-2 Power Staff – SB
-2 Power S/P – P/P
-2 p/d ninja nurse
-1 medic

No ascended gear requirement ( but at least exotic would be great )
No experience required, but if you have you are welcome.

If you have a high tolerance lvl and you don’t rage easily from insta death you are even more welcome !

To join the EU team, leave a post below with the role you want to fill and your disponibility schedule ( how much time you can give to the raids ).

I have set up a TS for the raid, so feel free to join even if it’s just to listen

IGN: Elundril Jiluan
Play: Mainly pvp, but I’m playing everything except WvW
Server: Augury rock
Role: Scholar

Hey guys !

My main is a thief, but I’m playing mesmer right now ( those are dark times for thief in pvp). I came up with a quite successful clone factory build, and I would like some advise on runes and sigils because I sucks in choosing those….

I’m in saphire t3 and have 692 ranked games ( 383 in thief | 151 in mesmer ), so I’m neither a complete noob nor a full expert.

Here is the link: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQJARWnknBNqhtfCmpBEgiFcjycBChRqMAatfpOWr1cF-TpBFABiXGwhjAABPAga2fYhDBAAXAAA

With this build I can generate clones almost all of the time and make full use of shatters with alacracy on activation and easy access to stability.

I have both descent dammages with a descent burst ( generate 2 clone + continium shaft + wells + greatsword skills+ mindwrack ) and good sustain.
The staff and shatters ( bountiful dillusionement ) provides good team support.

SuperSpeed on shatter is a personnal preference, clones becomes rockets. They have a better reaction times, and can easily chase a fleeing low hp target without me leaving a point.

Only drawbacks are that it’s weak againts condis.

EDIT: do you guys know if the fury on clones affect the crit rate of shatter ?

ps: I don’t know if there will be dh reading this but clones in your traps are just so great to see

Urgh…. we’ve been had ! it was only to restore the arena, not create a usable arena….

This thing is a money black hole ^^

Why is no whale playing thief… We would have the arena faster

yolo swaggins or jana, I just added the last 4 pvp potions tracks rewards. The arena is just waiting to be crafted !!!

8 potions pvp rewards before the arena is ready to be unlocked

good job on the workshop ! people are way more healthy than I am ^^

let’s keep going and get the thief arena!

Don’t you think that S/D is in a good spot now ? I feel like the combo infiltrator’s strike + fist flurry is a really high dammage burst, which was lacking on that set.

The steal pathing is bugged anyway no matter the cam mode.

I guess it’s easier to disengage but is that the only pro ?

Any thief gameplay is a record for me ^^

If you want to interrupt, staff and shadow art is great (staff stealthed skill knockdown for 2sec) ! but the build I made at the tome lacked dps. with blind powder and hide in shadow you can always enter stealth.

Try a sword and infiltrator’s strike, it’s great to land fist flury. and fist flury compensate a lot the lack of dammage on that set.

Hey guys !

I wanted to know if Live action cam is worth using. I’ m not used to it yet, and it feels really strange to me.

Do you have any tips, things that could help me be used to it faster ? ( other than practice )

Did it changed the way you play thief, like new possible moves, easier way to do things ? or is it just different ?

I’m also interested to know if top players use it or not.

Really you did an awesome job for the music on this expension ! Every soundtrack gives a unique feeling to each map and event !

I’ve got a question though, when do you plan on releasing all those soundtracks ?

I would love to listen to it when I’m not playing, just as I loved ( and still love ) listing to my prophetie soundtrack CD and every other gw soundtracks.

Impact.2780:

Ground targeted dodge.

It took a while to overcome the despair, but once I did… Thanks for the laugh I guess.

Seriously though, if you were desperate, wouldn’t it make more sense to suggest the damage be dealt at the start of the dodge? Of course this is equally absurd for other reasons, but at least it makes some sense.

I think he wants an F button that make his character play in his stead……

Sagat.3285:

FeelsAlright.5860:

Kolly.9872:

Kolly.9872:

I’m just waiting for some dev to come around and hide this topic in the thief’s subforum.

And here we are

QUOTED FOR THE kittenING TRUTH

Unfortunate truth…

Maybe they made a program to detect a % of thief word in the whole thread and then it’s automatically moved. ( please dev, don’t quote me and tell me it’s true…)

I’m trying a CC staff build as well. A mesmer just welled at me because he had a 4 sec stun, which I doubt he had. I have a huge acces to stealth in this build. and spam vault is a quick burst with decent dammage.

for the runes and sigils, there must be something better !

Edit : +1 for the soldier rune

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQJAWVnsMBlPhNmCmOBkmilhCzbIEEOCcBgFQFY++FALgA-TpBFwACOEAk2fwaZACPAgFHBAAXAAA

witcher.3197:

T raw.4658:

witcher.3197:

Epic Beast.5189:

i actualy laugh while im playing on my dear thief.. everyting hits like a truck… But hey anet gave us 1 more dodge.. and we can run pretty fast to ^^ but yeah im geting tired to be the go deacap free base role or be the +1 guy… mobility aint enough atm..

There are 8 other classes you can play, with multiple viable builds per class. If thief doesn’t have what you need, maybe try rerolling instead of asking the devs to change the game for you.

Says the guy who was whining to the devs to change the game so they don’t have to play sky hammer or courtyard…..

Thief haters…..

Can you seriously not see the difference between the 2? Ranked is disabled so people are forced to play Skyhammer and other maps that are unfit for proper PvP (there is a reason why those aren’t in ranked). We have no choice. What stops you from rerolling, on the other hand?

Can’t you just not vote for those ? I played solo queue yesterday for a whole day and had to do spirit watch and Skyhammer only once or twice… it’s not really a big deal.

hey guys !

did you try that sort of tanky build ? I find it pretty sturdy and I didn’t have to run for my life against most classes (a minimum of dodge for chrono wells and dH traps though). Also steal + staff 2 hit hard.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQJAWVn8lCFmiFOBmOB8PhlxiybACgDYbDLrOcO3/9iH-TpBFwACOCAk2fwaZACXAgFHCAAPAAA

I’m not that good at theory crafting, so you can trash the build all you want, since it seems to be the goal of the thread

Batelle.1680:

Mickey Frogeater.1470:

snipped for spoilers

The expansion has only been out for three days. Do you mind not spoilering the story for everyone who hasn’t already finished it?

He did hide it in a spoiler tag ! Resist the curiosity !

You want to nerf thief ? give it invulnerability like every other classes.

No seriously, it’s a bad idea. invulnerability is toxic to pvp. one or two frames is ok, not 7 sec.

On nifhelm, I like to jump from pole to pole because nobody press that god kitten “I’m Ready !” button… Am I in the wrong ?

And trust me somebody that doesn’t talk can be even worse…At least with the one who talks you know he will try an “exotic” theory.

IGN: Esper Jace
Playstyle: sPvp
Server: Augury rock
Experience with thief: I’ve been in the game for over a year and been playing thief seriously for the last 6 month. About 686 games played with thief and still a lot to learn

Hey guys,

everything is in the title

I suppose this is random ideas and you don’t want them all implemented at the same time ^^

Let me add a proposition:

Critical strike one of the most rewarding feeling of almost invulnerability in gw1. ( remember that bow/criti build ??)

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Critical_Defenses

maybe it would rise the survavibility on thief significantly as a critical strike grandmaster.

Gw2 Druid Ranger Elite specialization livestream quote:

" You are getting quite a bit with the druid. You are getting 5 weapon skill, you are getting 5 new celestial new avatar form skill, you’re getting 5 glyph skills, you’re getting 5 glyph skills on the other side. And then on top of that all we’re getting 5 new pets"

Hey karl just try to make the most OP thief you can do, forget about balance.Then tune it down after half of the gw2 community complains about how OP the thief is.

I’m sorry, I forgot there will be OP specialisations all over the place…

I really don’t know what is left for us ( i just saw the druid spec, even smokescale pet will be a pain to deal with).

supplies runner (in a more constant way than portal mesmer )? guards assassin ? harass other supplies runner ? support with venom share during middle/mist hero team fights?

I guess we will find a place, even if it’s a small one.

a question while we are speaking of thief on stronghold : Am I the only one with steal/shortbow pathfinding problems in the supply area ? The round wooden area is on a different level compared to the ground…it’s so anoying.

Saiyan.1704:

That’s too funny.

To the people who don’t get it, there’s no such thing (shouldn’t be) as a Meta2 tier class. The irony is, Cele D/D Ele performs so well in Conquest that it’s in another league of it’s own.

Two stacked Cele D/D Ele classes is a better comp than any two combinations of: Guard/Engi/Mes/Necro/War/Ranger/Thief

You can literally incorporate any other two classes + 2xCele D/D Ele + Thief and be competitive.

thanks saiyan, that was my point. it’s not always easy to express your ideas when it’s not your native language

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

People who use that site make me sad.

I’m playing a thief and meta battle is the easiest way to get a quick overlook of the most played builds & their mecanics ( Even if I don’t really like the “meta” concept because it implies " you have to play X class like this and you can’t do it any other way" ).

1) the fluidity of the gameplay.

1.1) the abillity to shadowstep as in gw1 but in even better.

1.2) try hard sword/dagger even if it is not competitive.

2) the feeling to be the one to turn the tide when +1 or interrupt a stomp & rez

3) the high learning curve and the feeling ofr accomplishment when you succed a good move.

4) this moment when this question pops into your head before every duels: will I be able to fight more than 10 sec without fleeing or dying?

5) beeing part of a community that is crying, begging, bleeding, complaining, whinning about thief, but is still playing it nevertheless because we love it.

Shadowstep.6049:

i see nothing wrong with website and it’s content~

Neither do I, it’s just funny and sad at the same time to see that a build is much more powerfull than the others to the point they have to create a new category for it.

I wanted to check the necro celestial signet build for pvp and went to meta battle.

I had a good laugh as I saw “Meta² elemetalist d/d” then the usual “Meta” builds. Ele are so powerful right now that they had to make a Meta squared just for them.

I don’t know if it has been there for a long time, but it’s pretty relevent of the pvp state ^^

Amante.8109:

No one is addicted to Shortbow, in fact many of us have come to despise it. Regardless, it is required to stay both viable and alive.

Staff has a chance of working as an alternative, but it’s not where it needs to be right now.

That’s why I made a post-scriptum ^^ Shortbow is a must have because the current thief’s role is capping and +1 during a fight. The thief need mobility to do that.Maybe a squirmisher or a thief that try to hold a point or do a 1v1 doesn’t need it.

Hey guys !

after seeing the double sword thread and having tried myself a double d/d weapon set to infinite dodge with daredevil (infinite dodge works but not really effective), I was wondering if some of you had interesting builds (exotics as well ?) based on double sets?

Now that we have to look for new ways to play thief more than ever, it doesn’t seem that this path have been explored yet ( addicted to shortbow perhaps ?).

ps: keep in mind that maybe we can have different roles than the one we currently have…

Double sword thread: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Double-Sword-Build

daredevil infinite dodge condi : http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQRAoY4Yn0MB9OhdmCGOB8PhlWCzrMcHiCznwV4LULAcAWAA-TJxHAB4s/wsnBAAeIAMVGAA

Auesis.7301:

The answer is NOT to just give people the ability to “stop Thieves doing anything” with a utility skill. It’s to rebalance Thief abilities so that Stealth isn’t something we need to rely on as a crutch to survive more than 5 seconds in a team fight.

I completely agree, reveal is not a big deal if 4-5 builds were viable when playing a thief. I don’t want d/p to be our only competitive option . What we need is s/d, p/d, p/p and shortbow competitive builds. More viable builds means more different counters, and more different counters means a place for every build to be effective.

Thief will be balanced when there will be more than one meta build.

an idea out of nowhere: why not make a critical defense trait in the critical strike trait line ? something like: if you criti, blocks attack for 2 sec with an internal cooldown of 6-8 sec. wouldn’t that make criti trait line nice to play (again) ?

I agree with impact strike ! It’s so rewarding when you turn around a duel with that. I was playing against a ranger and I had 10% and he had 25%. I thought I was dying and then Impact Strike ( you know when you have a new build/skill, you are not used to it yet and you remember it actually IS in your skill bar )! Instant death from the ranger !

This is one of the best feeling I had in the entire game !

Seabreeze.8437:

I spent some time over the weekend sketching up some storyboard concepts of what I feel skills 2, 3, 4, and 5 should look like, along with some notes about them. To anyone interested, please feel free to take a look at them and let me know what you think.

Awesome job done on these animations ( I’m almost ashamed of my vault’s ones ^^ ).

I think that dust strike would makes more sense if the whirling was made after the throw as a finishing stance to get the staff back in place. As I see it, during a whirling the hands are placed in the middle so the wide swing after that part would lack strengh. With the speed of the rotation, I find it hard to get one hand in the middle and one hand at the bottom of the staff.

The rapid thrust would definetly be one of the best candidate from the auto-attack #3 instead of the “chop-chop magic helicopter” we currently have.

this is a side question: what brush do you use and what size ? it gives your charater more consistance. ( don’t answer just to this, it’s still a gw2 focused thread )

I doesn’t change the problems but current animations are making more sense with heavy staves. There is not a lot of them though.

Hey guys what do you think of that proposal of rune of the adventurer ? does that makes sense ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3azi98/how_to_play_sword_dagger_thief_without_competly/

Today I learnt that sword/dagger must be played almost without cloak and dagger…My effectiveness incresed by 120% ^^

Daendur.2357:

and you know how many ppl are working on animations? or if they are doing even something else? maybe there are other professions? maybe there is other stuff, so they (the animation team) have limited time (since there is a release date) and resources.

I know there is a lot to animate, from every ennemy to the plants and maybe even mordremoth ( if the animation is on the same degree as Zaithan there is a lot of work, unless this is well scripted, I don’t really know). But what is the one thing you see 100% of the time on your screen ? that’s your character and the way it moves/interact with the world. So they need to pay a lot of attention on this.

Raids are not only encounters (or at least I hope so) and a thief could possibly trigger interruptors or any mechanisms better than any one else. I mean getting behind the ennemis lines, activating it and coming back safely.

one exemple that come to my mind is one of the elite zones from gw1:

-In the urgoz labirinth you couldn’t open a door without a necro ( or at least the skill necrotic travel ) that could teleport you to a dead body on a cliff, switch on the gate interruptor and come down. ( that cliff was inacessible from any other means, except maybe for assassins ).

And if we have to split into 2 or 3 groups a little bit of blindness and cc could make it much less difficult.

Daendur.2357:

Wargameur.6950:

Daendur.2357:

of course, but if Anet has limited time and recources it’b better to use it for mechanics than animations.

You do realise that in a game compagny there is people programming the mechanics and people working on the animations ?

so ? animations still are a secondary aspect of a game

So when you say Anet has limited time and recources they better spend it on the mechanics, you don’t understand that there is also a different animating team that can possibly work on an improvement of the animations.

Daendur.2357:

of course, but if Anet has limited time and recources it’b better to use it for mechanics than animations.

You do realise that in a game compagny there is people programming the mechanics and people working on the animations ?