Guild Wars 2

Seigfried.5938:

Fuzzion.2504:

Guys, please discuss matchup threads at www.gw2wvw.net

Someone referred to that site as a ‘cesspit’. I am inclined to agree with him.

Yes all the forum trolls and players that liked to write bad comments on the official forums that caused the official forums to get shut down migrated there. Now all the trolls just troll each other because they have no one else to troll anymore.

Qaelyn.7612:

Warlord.9074:

We don’t want to WvW anymore because BG and JQ play for PPT and just blob, sit In T3 towers with Arrow carts and then blob from one tower to the next tower thats the only time you will see them. And when they don’t run in the blob the fights are fun but short lived because then they blob back up and hit you with overwhelming numbers.

In other words, they are playing WvW the way it was designed to be played — and doing exactly the same things you guys did when you thought you could win, and will likely be doing again after you’ve ignominiously sunk out of tier 1.

You “don’t want to WvW anymore” because you don’t think you can win. That’s all this boils down to, nothing more, nothing less.

Yes we know we can’t win, but this goes back to the days on being stuck in T2 with BG for months. SoR was always the underdog. So we made a decsion as a server a long long time ago to play WvW for fun not for points.

Except when we had Iron in the early days. Besides SoRs strong NA we have alsways had coverage problems. Don’t believe me go to Mos millennium and count how many times SoR has won any given matchup over the past year and a half and you will see this server has always had to fight tooth and nail for anything and a vast majority of the time SoR always loses.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

But at the same time I feel like we’re taking advantage of BG and SOR going to EotM a bit too much.

Your not taking advantage of SOR because SOR doesn’t care. We play for fights and bags not PPT. We don’t want to WvW anymore because BG and JQ play for PPT and just blob, sit In T3 towers with Arrow carts and then blob from one tower to the next tower thats the only time you will see them. And when they don’t run in the blob the fights are fun but short lived because then they blob back up and hit you with overwhelming numbers.

I also wouldn’t be proud I would be disappointed because people super stacked on JQ to win only to win because everyone on BG and SOR gave up because of the unnecessary stacking and blobing and bandwagoning going on in T1.

Carpboy.7145:

Dire. The only benefit you get from rabid is a 3 sec bleed. Thats not worth 6k health. Not to mention with dire you get 30% crit chance, 40% with a sword, and 60% with fury.

Here is a sample of what you should aim for

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/external?l=http%3A%2F%2Fgw2skills.net%2Feditor%2F%3FfIMQNAT8cjkOpwFPCPMxBCkCsUlzjkMFyrUMH7A-j0BBINCy0CQUHBOTtIasVTFRjVJjIqWpETKAIWDA-w

3.4k armor, 25k health, 30% crit chance, and 2k condi dmg is such a beast. You can easily get bleed ticks of 3k+, and burn, and torment for 1k+

Don’t use missile Deflection in a Condition build. Cuz when you block a projectile in melee range with reposte it wont count as a block it counts as a reflect and thus it wont trigger the bleed on block which is the whole point of that skill besides the block part.

Theres not any tricks. Unlike some other professions, there are not any real hax to warrior play and anytime there is it gets fix and nerfed promptly.

Warrior is very strait forward and transparent in how the class operated the only combo field we have is a fire field. we have a few blast finishers we have some leap finishers, and we have some whirl finishers but I have yet to see someone come up with any kind of build that makes the single fire field we have and whatever finishers we have worth doing outside of a novelty thing of just doing it because you can thing there is little point when there are easyer and other more useful alternatives.

To the person above me crit chance is nearly pointless on a condition build.

I ran condition war for awhile and I ran into a couple issues that are little known or not discussed also that under water combat is impossible.

Clearing soft CC isn’t really a big deal until you run into CC spamers or larger groups who keep chaining cripple, immobilize, chill on you and it comes from multiple sources then no mater if you clear it or not it just get reapplied you get shut down then bursted down. Why This is an issue is cuz Condi War is an Attrition build and you win fights by out lasting and dealing steady but slower damage. If you get shut down you lose the attrition battle.

The solution I found was runes of Antitoxin + leek soup. Then the issue I ran into was my condition duration wasn’t long enough Dire+Antitoxin+leek soup. Is the fix.

The solution I found to condition duration not long enough after using leek soup was 20 points in Strength for 20% duration + Deep cuts for 70% Bleeds.

The solution I found to mobility since I put 20 in str was pick up Physical utility training and put Bull charge on my bar+Warrior Sprint+Signet mastery for faster CD of Signet of rage. Sword Leep + bulls charge = 1800 Range escape. Plenty of mobility now.

Solution I found to stun breaks and condi clearing since were using signet mastery is Signet of stamina which clears all conditions and gives you more endurance and dolyack signet. If you don’t need big condi clears becasue you have Regen+antitoxen+leek soup then more endurance equals longer staying power to help you win Attrition wars.

Here is the build.

The 20 in strength may sound pointless. But there is a good reason why is it is 20% Condition duration. 20%+50%from deep cuts = 70% Bleeding duration

70% is the magical number its pretty much nessacary if any of your opponents are on lemongrass+ negative condition runes.

Last little Nuance that I encountered that nobody really talks about is the Reposte + Reflect projectiles trait combo. Do not use it on a condition build. Why becasue then a ranged attack is not counted as a block. Since you are not longer blocking you are reflecting. Why this matters is then if you are in melee range and block a projectile the skill will not use Reposte and hit the target with the bleed. It will just keep blocking.

This is the final Condition build I came up with after running into and trouble shooting all of the many problems that nobody talks about on condi war

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAT8cjkOxuBPGPMRCEkCNsKMK+Bi4UIJUKsj5A-jECBoOCy0Cwk0BKTqIas12FRjV3ATxiIq2joIa1yAssGA-w

I think you messed up what you were saying and know why we put 25 in arms when using swords on power builds. Auto attack bleeds twice on the sword chain, making your attacks to that target do 10% more damage. It works with Pin down too as that adds 6 stacks of bleed then use combustive shot and see 10% increase. That and 25 = 250 Precision + sword trait for 210 Precision equivalent = 460 = 22 Crit chance + 10% damage. thats huge.

I personally do not use the Applied fortitude either but that is what OP was using so I just left it there. I kinda agree that he would be better putting 25 in arms 30 in defense and 15 in discipline since that’s exactly what I run and I know its good. Or 0/25/25/0/20 I run Sword N Shield N GS though with Hoelbrak runes and leek soup. So its not like this lyssa set up which works well but it isnt as good as my set up since I dont need to waste my clears on soft CC.

I think with swords and bows on power builds you can apply plenty of burst. Swords and Bows on Condi or hybrid builds don’t have burst though so even though these weapons are capable of doing condi damage just don’t your going to run into big problems vs players who condi clear spam and have high healing and sustain.

mistsim.2748:

to steer us back on topic, away from fantasy and laboratory type testing environments where your target remains still without dodges, blocks, protection, etc., i will repeat the original question – why do WvW guilds hate rangers? *hint: it’s not because the leaders of these guilds are unaware of amazing and effective prof nuances known only to a handful of elite rangers!

please remain on-topic, thanks!

Because most rangers I have came across have play styles and builds that are either not beneficial to anyone but themselves or their play style and builds are not beneficial to anyone including themselves. Why because this profession attracts players who want to hide behind pets and pew pew. While not everyone who is attracted by this profession has that mentality the majority of them do. And that play style doesn’t work to good in most aspects of the game including some PVE.

45% Chance with fury is too low. it should be 40+ without fury to be optimally balanced defensive and offensive wise. The Hoelbrak+Leek soup is what I am currently running also. Thats keeps you from getting shut down from soft CC and retains decent power. I have ran melandru and Resistance+melandru and its too tanky without enough damage. 2800-2900 Attack is extremely low that rivals Clerics builds.

I know you are saying Solders is too tanky but knights is just as tanky and has less power and no vitality. I currently beleive that Soldiers Armor+Hoelbrak runes then Zerker everything else is a great balance.

If you want a sword n Board build that can use a hammer try this I think you would like it. This build is more of a small man or solo build. Swap out the Hammer for GS if you need more mobility. I use Bolas because a 4 sec immobilize is usually enough to down someone or land 100blades with a GS. Short cool down.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAseSjkOtutQGPMxBE0jrQDxiLDqYK0HsDA-jUCBYLERjEBBiKAM7pIasVQFRjVXDT5iIq2aeIaW0pWKglUGB-w

Edit the thing I mainly do not like about Full Cavaliers setups Is it forces you into a specific build if you want to be optimal that means 30 in Dis and taking Heightened Focus and unless you adrenaline is full you are at low power mode.

It also has power as a minor stat. with no precision. having all that crit damage is nice if you land a crit. But having low precision makes that not as often as you would like it to be and you do less damage most of the time because of it. I think a little cavaleers in moderation is ok be it a amulet or some accessories or maybe a back piece. But builds that use it for everything I think are like sleeping dragon builds that have potential to to massive dammage but in practice dont becasue of low power and low chance to crit.

I have run knights as my armor before and my general impression of it is. Same chance to crit as zerk, but when you crit its weak damage weak crits, and u sacrifice power and or Crit damage in zerkers case or power and Vitality with a little less toughness in soldiers case. I think with the soldiers setup if you can find a way to come up with the crit chance either by using a sigil of accuracy or using more zerker on other pieces of gear it turns out better than knights.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAT8cjkOBvtQGPMRCAkCsqyU4nLDqmSfwOA-jECBofCyEBBmKAKzsIasVRFRjVbDT5aR1qYASBExyI-w

Your better off with these trait changes. Dont have time to write and essay. But 10% damage to bleeding foes is better than armored attack for this specific build. Also Retal sucks. And your build should always bleed targets. Also the sword trait gives 10% crit chance which is equal to like 210 precision is probably a better way to get more crit chance than maint oil cuz you can use sharpening stones instead to give you more power. Last there is not reason to have condition duration food with your build. your build is a pure power build use the power food. Also use the sigils I put in the weapons you thank me later for that it helps you do more damage than the other ones you had.

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Zoid.2568:

20% crit chance and 60% crit damage is not good.

You need at least 60% crit chance if you want to play a crit build.

However if you want to play a hybrid build, i think 40% crit chance is enough. With Fury you get 60%.

…True the crit chance is really low. But full zerker isn’t ecen 60% crit chance. people don’t generally obtain those numbers without signets, banners, Fury, Food, Sigil stacks etc. So 60% for PVE doable. But your not going to have a viable PVP build with 60% crit chance why? Becasue the sacrifices that you would need to make are sacrifices that you shouldn’t make if you want to have utility and traits and cleases and sustain. that will be viable in PVP or WvW.

In WvW I geneally use the 40-50% Crit chance base as my rule of thumb. Then you have 60-70% With Fury and even more if you decide to use food to give you more crit chance.

WhiteRose.6934:

..ANET has forced warriors into pure specs. Meaning pure DPS or pure defense base to be viable in one or the other…

…power creep they did to the other professions and meanwhile they would have significantly buffed other professions that didn’t need buffed guardians for example all while nerfing warriors more than they buffed them becasue they rolled back the buffs they gave them while keeping in place the nerfs they gave them due to the buffs they gave them that are no longer buffs anymore….

Lol Warriors having to actually build damage OR defense? Power creep on other professions? Massively buffed Gaurdians? What game are you playing, ‘cause I think you’re on the wrong forums.

I know you have been around awhile so I find it interesting that you don’t see what I am saying here. So a little insite here the current meta that everyone complains about warriors were forced into. And the decisions that ANET made now not only effect warriors but are effecting every profession in the game.

Warriors went from OP in PVE to god mode because of ANETS decision to force warriors into pure builds. This is mainly the moving of Heightened focus and Berserkers Power to 30 point traits. But they didn’t just move them they buffed them to incentive warriors to go full glass. This is only a part of the power creep.
banner and signet buffs. etc etc.

Then along came the banner buffs the signet buffs, buffs to other traits that even boosted the warrior further in damage if they made all sacrifices for more damage.

Then they decided hey lets come out with some ascended gear to boost damage even higher. Which synergized perfectly with zerk warriors.

Warrior is not the only profession to have been beneficiary to the power creep and the steady buffing of other professions traits and weapon skills. But in PVE warriors were buffed and buffed then forced into Power builds.

Why is this bad? Its bad when it comes to PVP or WvW when a warrior is forced now not to build so much in to damage but to build more defensively or balanced. Since most of our damage traits or good traits to make decent damage while bulding tank were moved, and our our control skills and weapon skills have taken a hit, its only going to be a matter of time before warrior isn’t as viable in PVP as it was and it already is not. It will be at the bottom of the list as far as best pvp classes soon…

Because now the nerfs anet is coming out with to tone down thier mistakes with power creeps affect balanced and more defensive builds. So now if your going to want to build balanced or defensive in PVP or more importantly WvW good luck using control skills and doing damage. Which has now forced a lot of players and classes into a condition bunker meta.

The condition meta hurts warriors the most, as if it will turn out that lower power and even definsive builds that relied on CC and minmaxing of traits and stats to be optimal are no longer optimal because the skills, the traits, and the stats have all been moved, nerfed, or nerfed. That significantly weakens the warrior in a area that it was not over powered in to begin with.

Have other professions seen big nerfs sure, thiefs, elemetalists are the big receivers of nerfs. However thier profession mechanics are so different than warriors they will be able to cope thiefs with stealth mechanics and eles with thier sustain a versatility.

I was thinking some more along these lines but like everyone has stated we havn’t or don’t use swords probably outside of PVP. Here is another experimental build that I have never and probably will never try.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAscTjkOJvtP+OMxBAzjh+pozjkmiKVB7A-jECBIMCik0BiKAM/pIaslgFRjVtATbiIq2hoIa1SB4nyI-w

The only reason imo to pick one race or another is if you plan on using cultural armor. Or like how one armor looks on one race. If you like Asura the T3 Heavy is Legit. Human or Norn? The norn has better “Heavy” Cultural armor than Human does in my own onion especially the female one. Chars just looks unproportionate with any kind of helmet on so If you plan on using Helmets don’t roll a charr.

If you like skimpy female heavy armor make a Human or Norn. Norn if you want the Norn Cultural.

No because they moved all of swords physical damage to final thrust. Which in theory hits as hard as evicerate if it crits when the target is below 50% health. But the recharge is 15 seconds. While eviscerate is default 10 seconds. never the less evecerate doesn’t have a HP threash hold requirement and the Axe Auto attack chain does more damage than the sword auto attack chain.

So that makes sword not as viable as AXE for pve. Sword is a viable weapon for PVP though. Mainly because of the Leap, the Cripple and Immobilize.

Really I think Scarlet is Omads puppet. And Omad is controlling her. That seems more plausible. Cuz my Asura opened up a clue that said that he cheated in the contests that we were in together. As part of my own personal story i got a different clue than everyone else. He used his device to break into her head.

Lol if you cant build up 25 stacks of anything on your warrior your not doing your job thats a L2p issue Nike.,

Real players lol Orbs are for pur exotic build mainly trinkets if you are a poor player. But it is just there for reference.
Since when does sigil of perception prevent you from using precsion food? Thats pretty new to me I have never heard of that.

regardless of what people use or do not use my notes are there for reference those are the best ways to get precision in the game period.
Lastly don’t ever tell me that I need to Learn to Play especially a warrior. I bought this game during beta 2 and my 1st character was a warrior that I pretty much excursively played until now after having taken 2 short breaks from he game, Ive been here from day 1.

I played warrior the whole time before warrior got any of the buffs it did before ascended before anything we have now.

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

Warlord.9074:

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

Warlord.9074:

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

What’s a tank in GW2?

And yea, most builds work best when you synergize with your teammates. Have any more shocking revelations?

I started to reply to you specifically when your argument was basically LTP. What is a tank in GW2? Mobs generally aggro the player who has the most toughness in the party. And since generally that is not you it will be someone else. Most builds do synergize with the team but while the 30/25/0/0/15 build does produce the best warrior DPS. Other than perhaps a banner or fgj this build brings nothing to synergize with the team other than DPS. So basicaaly this build in very hard content needs to be supported by other players who have to take a less DD build in order to support you so you can put out big numbers lol. I never questioned that the build does not do DPS I questioned how sustainable it is with pug groups or bad group comps, or in a party where everyone runs a as selfish build as this one in difficult content. And COF P3 is not difficult content.

Well it is an LTP issue, sorry to burst your bubble. Every build needs to support each other to maximize efficiency. The solution to bad groups or low dps is not to lower your dps further by going tanky yourself or using bad traits.

Hate to burst my bubble? Only person in here that is in some kinda bubble is you mate. Your only argument for why you are right is others just need to learn to play and that you don’t need to debate the points I am making because I just don’t know how to play. That sounds like a bubble to me.

You’re the one who thinks people ‘tank’ in high level fractals. I don’t live in that bubble.

I watched your video btw. You started to lose me after telling me that to use assassins for and your rationalization for that is it gives you a 1% increase of damage like that you can really measure a 1 damage increase that is not a damage increase its a 3% chance to do more damage while doing slightly less damage 97% of the time.

EP=(Power*(1+(CritChance*CritDamage)))*DamageModifiers

That’s a formula you should look into before you make such a comment. You clearly don’t have much of a clue.

Then about how we do this because Blood lust a 250 power increase which equates to about 4-5% Damage boost if you attack is around 3800 which it most likely is with might. Would be better than lets say sigil of force which would be a static 5% that doesn’t need to be built with stacks. Never mind the fact that by choosing assassins and the infusions you used you lost 250 power in the process probably and all of the time and money that you had spent was for 5 extra crit chance that amounts to more DPS according to you.

It’s 134 Power, and it is higher DPS. Please learn math. Also, if you watched the video you see I switch to DPS sigils after building up stacks. Everyone who cares about min/maxing does this.

I like the guide that you made for people that don’t know what to do its very good. I probably would of never went into that much detail but um your traits are nice but your gear isn’t as optimum as you think it is and as soon as the nerf comes it will be even worst.

The gear is optimal in the current meta. You are correct, after the Ferocity nerf assassins gear will be worse, but I already knew that and made a video on my channel explaining it, and telling people not to craft assassins gear now. And I believe I added a note inside my warrior video that says the same thing.

Don’t be all mad at me because I offended you by saying “it’s an L2P issue” when it is. If you aren’t comfortable with meta builds in fractals you should practice more, I don’t know what else to say to help you.

I love these paper warriors. I’ve been playing this game a lot longer to know precision next to healing power is one of the worst scaling stats in GW2. You whole argument is I will lose. 134 power and gain 6 crit chance if I do it my way lol. Well if we didn’t do it your way and used sigil of perception instead of blood lust we would have more crit chance than you without the loss of 134 power.

So your build would have less crit chance and um less power too untill you built up 25 stacks of blood lust in which case you would have less crit chance and 116 more power. But according to you crit chance is better than power. So no one will notice your 100 more power but since our crit chance is higher our build is better.

Listen I don’t really give a crap who this nike guy is I don’t have time to have no life 10 legendarys and make spread sheets all the time for and online game, then argue over 1 stat point is better or worst, or why the game should be played this way and not another way.

I wanted to do something different been playing this for the past couple days. Its been working well for me.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAneRjkOxutQGPMxBEkCNELMK+hgQ9wOcj2A-jUyAYLBRKCERAkKAk9KiGbFsIas6aMlrgsKOpSBskwI-w

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

Warlord.9074:

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

What’s a tank in GW2?

And yea, most builds work best when you synergize with your teammates. Have any more shocking revelations?

I started to reply to you specifically when your argument was basically LTP. What is a tank in GW2? Mobs generally aggro the player who has the most toughness in the party. And since generally that is not you it will be someone else. Most builds do synergize with the team but while the 30/25/0/0/15 build does produce the best warrior DPS. Other than perhaps a banner or fgj this build brings nothing to synergize with the team other than DPS. So basicaaly this build in very hard content needs to be supported by other players who have to take a less DD build in order to support you so you can put out big numbers lol. I never questioned that the build does not do DPS I questioned how sustainable it is with pug groups or bad group comps, or in a party where everyone runs a as selfish build as this one in difficult content. And COF P3 is not difficult content.

Well it is an LTP issue, sorry to burst your bubble. Every build needs to support each other to maximize efficiency. The solution to bad groups or low dps is not to lower your dps further by going tanky yourself or using bad traits.

Hate to burst my bubble? Only person in here that is in some kinda bubble is you mate. Your only argument for why you are right is others just need to learn to play and that you don’t need to debate the points I am making because I just don’t know how to play. That sounds like a bubble to me.

I watched your video btw. You started to lose me after telling me that to use assassins for and your rationalization for that is it gives you a 1% increase of damage like that you can really measure a 1 damage increase that is not a damage increase its a 3% chance to do more damage while doing slightly less damage 97% of the time.

Then about how we do this because Blood lust a 250 power increase which equates to about 4-5% Damage boost if you attack is around 3800 which it most likely is with might. Would be better than lets say sigil of force which would be a static 5% that doesn’t need to be built with stacks. Never mind the fact that by choosing assassins and the infusions you used you lost 250 power in the process probably and all of the time and money that you had spent was for 5 extra crit chance that amounts to more DPS according to you.

I like the guide that you made for people that don’t know what to do its very good. I probably would of never went into that much detail but um your traits are nice but your gear isn’t as optimum as you think it is and as soon as the nerf comes it will be even worst.

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

What’s a tank in GW2?

And yea, most builds work best when you synergize with your teammates. Have any more shocking revelations?

I started to reply to you specifically when your argument was basically LTP. What is a tank in GW2? Mobs generally aggro the player who has the most toughness in the party. And since generally that is not you it will be someone else. Most builds do synergize with the team but while the 30/25/0/0/15 build does produce the best warrior DPS. Other than perhaps a banner or fgj this build brings nothing to synergize with the team other than DPS. So basicaaly this build in very hard content needs to be supported by other players who have to take a less DD build in order to support you so you can put out big numbers lol. I never questioned that the build does not do DPS I questioned how sustainable it is with pug groups or bad group comps, or in a party where everyone runs a as selfish build as this one in difficult content. And COF P3 is not difficult content.

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

I used that build at fotm 79, it works very well. If you feel its too squishy for 40+ that is 100% an l2p issue.

It works pretty well as long as you have group members to babysit your conditions and tank for you.

Current state of the warrior. by Warlord.

ANET has forced warriors into pure specs. Meaning pure DPS or pure defense base to be viable in one or the other. If you are new to warriors or are not familiar with them than this sounds silly. However most of warriors damage traits were moved to 30 point investments or 20 points. With the exception of off hand training and crackshot a 5% trait that only works with some off hand weapons and a rifle trait that doesn’t boost damage per se it just reduces cool downs.

In exchange for an across the board damage nerf we received more sustain. Healing sig buff, adrenal healing buff, dogged march, cleansing Ire buffs to mending and healing surge.

Afterwards we recieved a few Weapon fixes/buffs A mace stun buff, a Sword buff, and a smoothing of our hammer skills so they worked better.

Afterwards ANET felt the need to nerf our CC and damage some more, we recieved a mace nerf, a hammer nerf, a longbow nerf and an Axe nerf.

By in large some of the utilities we have were buffed the stances and signets.

Now anet is talking about a healing sig nerf and a nerf to crit damage. So now that everything is said and done with I feel it is safe to say warrior has recieved more nerfs than it has recieved buffs. If you have been following warriors all a long you understand this. If you are a noob that likes to make QQ posts you wont.

When everything is said and done with coming the next big balance patch warriors will be in worst shape than they were before ANET decided to overhaul this class because of the power creep they did to the other professions and meanwhile they would have significantly buffed other professions that didn’t need buffed guardians for example all while nerfing warriors more than they buffed them becasue they rolled back the buffs they gave them while keeping in place the nerfs they gave them due to the buffs they gave them that are no longer buffs anymore.

I don’t think that build works too well in high level fractals. When Someone says high level fractals I assume 40+. Its very squishy for that high. And if you are running with pug groups in Fractals it can be death. For COF AC etc what your asking for it works best.

In PVE warrior is strong. IN pvp warrior is good in groups. In 1v1s warrior is not OP. Put a bunch of warriors together in the same group you get OP by themselves not so much.

Ya cleansing Ire used to be a trait called embrace the pain. It wasn’t a bad trait however I don’t remember it recovering as much adrenaline as it does now. And a trait just to get adrenaline on hit seemed kinda pointless since gaining adrenaline isn’t hard without it. If thats all it did we wouldn’t need it.

I’ll play just this once.

I’m sorry, it was a mistake of words on my part I didn’t mean to be so harsh. Sometimes when I read something it can flip out then end up writing something that crosses the line unintentionally.

If I am not mistake your first trait point doesn’t come untill level 11. By 80 you have 70 points.

Your 1st trainer book you can put 10 points in each trait line.
Lvl11

20 point build. Use signets. Axe/Axe with GS or sword/warhorn on swap.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQBDk77dGvAwpAUqCzB

2nd trainer book 20 points in each line.
lvl 40 Build. http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAnZBD5u9OGPMxBAThhOKgiJVB7A
Axe/mace GS with Signets.

3rd book is 30 in each line.
lvl 60 Build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAnZBD5u9OGPMxBAThhuMgiJ9B7A

Probably HS why becasue HS was ANETs bandaid to warrior sustain. I played warrior since open beta and before HS got buffed the other heals were all we had and they were never enough. ANET slightly buffed the other heals in an attempt to make warriors viable this was before HS was buffed and that wasn’t enough back then and its not enough now.

So ANET chose to instead of give warriors the sustain the needed to make HS give them a high regen and then they buffed adrenal healing to go along with it.

Now they are nerfing our heals, our damage and our CC into the ground GG warrior back to square 1.

I disagree with the reasoning to chose surge over HS over poison. Since poison would make Surge heal for half as well. Secondly ANET said they are nerfing poisen in combination with the HS nerf. Lastly If I was that worried about poisen id choose mending over them all since it will cure poisen before the heal.

wildfang.9670:

Warlord.9074:

I dont think cleansing ire is over the top. Remember for it to be 3 conditions it has to be full not 2.5. Secondly you said shake it off is 2 —--its only 1. If you removed 1-3 conditions every 10 seconds thats not out of line other professions can do the same.

The issue has nothing do do with sustainability and it has everything to do with warriors CC. If a warrior lands it it can be devastating. But then again really good players are somtimes very hard to land CC on. Most of the complaints come from people who either don’t avoid the CC or don’t have stun breaks or stability or a combination of the two.

On to the CC issue other professions necro with their fear spam, ele with their knock downs, engi with supply crate etc can all spam CC. And I have seen those other professions build very durably. Most of the complaints are from people who cant build or play. If it wasn’t warrior QQ threads it would be QQ thread on another professions section.

no shake it off removes 2 condtions for up to five players it was buffed.

although I did think that ire could have potential to be abused but honestly if other professions can spam cleanse like that every 10 seconds yeah it’s kinda hard to make a argument.

actually warlord this guy isn’t talking about the cc part which I’m kinda like you it’s not really that bad. he’s been saying that warriors have too much cleanse. i honestly figured that 3 condtions every 10 seconds may have been a bit over the top for a bulky profession but yeah if other professions are able to do it as well then it’s a non issue.

thank you for pointing that out

It wasn’t buffed I just tested in in spvp it removes 1 and the tooltip says it removes 1 screen shot for proof. Also if it removes 1 condition off 4 other players 5 including yourself it is beside the point. What it does for somone else does not effect warriors own survive.

1 condition every 25 seconds is very weak compared to other classes. And don’t be like other people and say soldier runes makes it do 2 so then it is OP. LOL no other profession has to use 6 runes to remove 2 conditions every 25 seconds.

I dont think cleansing ire is over the top. Remember for it to be 3 conditions it has to be full not 2.5. Secondly you said shake it off is 2 —--its only 1. If you removed 1-3 conditions every 10 seconds thats not out of line other professions can do the same.

The issue has nothing do do with sustainability and it has everything to do with warriors CC. If a warrior lands it it can be devastating. But then again really good players are somtimes very hard to land CC on. Most of the complaints come from people who either don’t avoid the CC or don’t have stun breaks or stability or a combination of the two.

On to the CC issue other professions necro with their fear spam, ele with their knock downs, engi with supply crate etc can all spam CC. And I have seen those other professions build very durably. Most of the complaints are from people who cant build or play. If it wasn’t warrior QQ threads it would be QQ thread on another professions section.

LOL/ The last time I saw anything except a o/o/30/30/10 build was almost never. This is the oldest warrior build I have seen and I’ve played warrior since open beta. Nobody does anything different.

There is nothing selfish about any 0/0/30/30/10 builds by nature these are warriors most pure support builds. Lat thing that is absolutely hilarious is when I see people comparing one 0/0/30/30/10 build to another 0/0/30/30/10 build or some minor variant its the SAME build.

Super survivability build is probably this one. Which is also the most brainless and boring thing to play.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAS8ejkOJvNPGP4wBE0DNsK2CThfI9ANGw0A-jEyAoLBZyRgoPwZvioxWGLiGreBTXSEV7PKiWtUAMJMC-w

Alright I said it. These changes were long overdue.

Fixed people trying to command in WvW with zero experience.

Fixed People running around with commander tags like its a fashion statement in town.
Now you know how ugly and annoying it is for everyone else to see your tag so turn it off if you are not using it. We hate it when you stand around with it on and do nothing. Its not cool stop trying to feel special.

Problem with rangers is there is not much forgivness in the class. If you are a noob and play a ranger you will be 10 times more nooby than a noob on a warrior for instance.

bobomb.5209:

Oh that is an even better suggestion. That would give it good synergy as a power build with the longbow. And anyways after my time playing Dark Souls I tend to associate axes and even BIGGER axes with pyromancers and flames.

Ya generally axes are associated with chopping wood, which is associated with burning since you burn wood to make fire. Then Barbarians warriors in this case pick up the weapon to use it in combat. But Bleeding and Burning I guess are warriors condition damage so it seems to fit nicely. I think adding vulnerability to this weapon would make it too strong and we can already inflict vulnerability on crit. As far as it only shooting fire if in a combo field its designed as only a CC pull it doesn’t do any damage otherwise but it shoots projectiles like whiling wrath but those projectiles just happen to be fire.

It now does more damage if the target is inflicted with burning damage. Theoretically making it counter able by condi clear.

Updated with your guys suggestions Yes the F1 is very strong it is intended to be strong since the weapon as a whole does not have a lot of DD skills like a rifle. Thats why I intended to use fire damage instead on a couple skills.

Warrior

2H Axe

Skills
1. Groove Cut / Log Chop / Log Split
2. Barbaric Rage ( 3 hit Frontal Cleave with this animation) "/ \ / " Animation. You can move while channeling. Does damage similar to landing all 3 #1 skills. But a burst.
3. Infernal Rush (Rush skill similar to Ranger Swoop but instead of the bird animation have a fire animation) Hits the target with 5 stacks of burning damage. Range 1200
4. Whirling Flames (Spins and shoots burning damage AOE Pull) Like Gurdian whirling Wrath. Range 600.
5. Headsman (leaps in the air and chops down at the targets head 2 second Daze) Like a combination of the GS Burst skill and Mace #3.
F1 Executioner (sends a wave of energy that looks like a flame blast at the target Does more damage if target is inflicted with burning damage.

Warrior

2H Axe

Skills
1. Groove Cut / Log Chop / Log Split
2. Barbaric Rage ( 3 hit Frontal Cleave with this animation) "/ \ / " Animation. You can move while channeling.
3. Infernal Rush (Rush skill similar to Ranger Swoop but instead of the bird animation have a fire animation) Hits the target with 5 stacks of burning damage.
4. Whirling Flames (Spins and shoots burning damage damage)
5. Headsman (leaps in the air and chops down at the targets head)
F1 Executioner (sends a wave of energy that looks like a flame blast at the target Does more damage if target is below health thresh hold)

RSLongK.8961:

Warlord.9074:

RSLongK.8961:

Warlord.9074:

ya its called just use knights gear.

same skill rotation with GS|S/M also knight?

Or mix Cavalier with zerker and try to min max to keep high crit chance.

Something like this. Perhaps if you want to keep high crit damage but want more armor. http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAR3ZjcOZvJPGPMxBAzjfAqoLDqYSfwOA-jkCBYLCyEBBmKAKVVQM5RZtNoIasKGYqSJVfSQ2boIa1SBMqyI-w

Kind liked it but, assuming i can get the money, would you recommend changing the ruby orbs for rune of scholar?

Ya possibly or Ogre if you don’t have the money. Rune of Strength has also been fixed atleast in spvp I haven’t tested it in PVE TBH best advise is to wait and see what the Rune changes ANET is making before you buy such a expensive rune set.

The person who said its 750 power is wrong. If it was 750 power to an individual player that is one thing. But individual damage doesn’t scale like that. At most if another player in the party has like lets say 3500 Attack. Giving them 150 Power is like giving 2-3% more damage. When doing that the warrior will lose like 25% damage.

Giving stacks of Vuln also effects the whole party if I put 10 Stacks of vuln that boosts everyones damage by 10% which is way better than 2-3%

I rather throw out a banner and use for great justice those 2 things are more contribution than anything.

Might on Crit is pretty big. Its pretty easy to have like 15 ish stacks of might on at all times with 10% damage and multiple stacks of vuln.

Other people in the party need to bring good builds and play good. My warrior is not there to babysit them so they can run low dps builds. So I give 150 power to 4 other people. But my damage alone tops that. I rather throw out a banner and use for great justice those 2 things are more contribution than anything.

Besides that that 150 power doesn’t stack with other warriors doing it. So if some other warrior is doing that its pointless.

RSLongK.8961:

Warlord.9074:

ya its called just use knights gear.

same skill rotation with GS|S/M also knight?

Or mix Cavalier with zerker and try to min max to keep high crit chance.

Something like this. Perhaps if you want to keep high crit damage but want more armor. http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAR3ZjcOZvJPGPMxBAzjfAqoLDqYSfwOA-jkCBYLCyEBBmKAKVVQM5RZtNoIasKGYqSJVfSQ2boIa1SBMqyI-w

ya its called just use knights gear.

KarsaiB.9475:

You might wanna have a look at this :

http://i.imgur.com/gPc5cN3.jpg

Those stats are achieved all by myself. With bloodlust and 10ish might stacks.
I don’t see any weakness. Healing signet. Endure Pain, stability and zerker stance. Ridiculous damage mitigation through 1.9k toughness and 22k hp. You have the best cleansing in the game (I’m running lyssa), greatsword for mobility and damage, longbow for immobilize, blind, might and damage (arcing arrow crits for 9/10k with this spec) and more RELIABLE cleansing from cleansing ire, as well as infinite dodges (from build momentum). Also running mobile strikes just in cases I’m running from a zerg. The only weakness to this would be if you’re deliberately trying to fight a 1v10, you might not win it.

looks ok my only concern is for solo roaming GS alone without bulls charge isn’t enough mobility to run away. So yeah if you get yourself into an egagment you can’t win chances are you can’t disengage.

phaeris.7604:

Those stats are insane.

Dat power and crit damage.

If I were to attempt that on my thief or ele i’d have 11k hps and 900 toughness and no condition cleansing skills.

Just where is the downside to this build?

This is kinda a troll pic he has bloodlust from wvw and also never stated how many stacks of might he has. Those stats are not his own.

I’ve tested it. Results were Criting more often resulted in higher DPS. It’s important to have high power though since a target with high toughness cancels out the damage. Thats also a main reason why criting more consistently is better. Ofcourse ANET wants to make no point in critting by bringing crit damage closer to base damage. So I think in the grand sceem of things you are better off running a bunker or a condition build which is what ANET says they do not want but at the same time everything they always do drives people to that.

Is this a troll thread? Rifle is a good weapon if you party with other ranged classes and do call targeting on single target damage. Its good for PVE when you fight a boss you want to range. Its a good weapon for ganking from range. Its a bad weapon becasue if volly or kill shot dont kill your enemy it doesn’t have sustained DPS. Its a bad weapon for 1v1 becasue 1200 range is easly closable and once that 1200 range is closed rifle becomes uselss. So its good if you can get one or 2 shots off from range or chase somone otherwise its a bad weapon for anything but volly and killshot and you need to land those and they need to crit or they both are bad.

Axe mainhand is good. Axe off hand is just not good. A. You will die from retal. and B. the damage in PVE and WvW is low since it only got buffed in spvp but still while you are spinning you cant do anything else so it puts a big target on your head come DPS me down becasue I will just stand there and take it all while I am doing less damage than my auto attack and you are beating me down.