Guild Wars 2

Past 3 days I’ve gotten a weapon chest, gold staff, and armor chest. This was after 2/3 weeks of nothing. RNG is RNG

Woah woah woah woah woah woah.

You can make multiple characters? kitten you anet!

Final boss is going to be a team of bunker tempests.

And I get sad every time I see a rev that insists on running Shiro/Glint when they’re in a party with a mesmer.

Crysto.7089:

Having the same issue but for the opposite reason. We clear the bosses the first day shard cap the next, and then no one wants to run it for the enjoyment of it : (

Same, had to work tuesday, now I’m stuck trying to clear with pugs to cap shards.

Poop.4295:

Main problem is that it’s situational damage.

If it’s not the perfect environment like an immobile boss or a dummy then its dps drops off significantly which is why it’s not even a suggestably viable build in pvp.

I wouldn’t call it “meta” since most other metas work in many scenarios whereas this one is completely shut down by simple movement.

Vale Guardian is typically held in one spot all throughout phase 1, and then in phase 2 and 3 he’s moved once every 15 seconds or so and held in one spot the rest of the time.

Gorseval depends on how you do it but most runs you only use 3 updrafts, so running to the wall to use the updraft, then back to center those 3 times are the only times he’s not held in one spot.

Sabetha doesn’t move.

@OP:

I feel like Berserker got massively overbuffed on this patch in response to the fact that Berserker was the most underwhelming elite spec in both pvp and pve. Now it’s pretty broken in PvE and still kind of useless in PvE.

But I may be wrong, I don’t play warrior so I don’t really know much about it.

NikeEU.7690:

Hitting the shard cap is voluntarily and not mandatory. It isn’t grind to put in additional rewards for additional clears. I’m not sure what the big deal is.

It’s pretty necessary to do so if you want any specific drop, the drop rate on unique drops is pretty bad for content that can only be cleared once a week. I’m at 6 kills on VG, 5 on Gorseval, 3 on Sabetha, and I’ve only gotten a mini and greatsword from VG, a mini and backpack from Sabetha, and nothing from Gorseval.

All I really want from raids is a tentacle staff and possibly a Gorseval mini, and it looks like I’ll have to farm magnetite shards to get them.

Firelysm.8190:

BloodyNine.7504:

Maybe the intent is for you to not cap it each week.

First thing that comes up to my mind is:

• why don’t we get repeatable content in raids, we have rifts to skip them each week.
• Why not encourage getting better, why encourage wiping in 3rd phase to get shards?
• I see the bigger picture of forcing guilds to fail raids in order to extend raid schedule across multiple days, but that’s a sloppy solution.
• Why not make repeatable content, while we can ask some one to open instance so we can replay it, another sloppy solution?

Today in 2 hours and 30 min raid, we did earn 32 shards [ keep in mind we killed all 3 bosses today ]…

ALSO, Anet promised dungeon nerf to make raids more rewarding, but where is the reward? I did pay 3,8gold for food, raid returned me 5 gold. And now even ninja shard nerf ?

If you killed all 3 bosses like you’re saying you did… then you should have gotten a minimum of 12 gold.

I was at 439 yesterday before I started raiding, and after clearing all 3 bosses (with a few wipes along the way) I’m at 493, so just over halfway to the cap.

Sarevok.2638:

How can we get drinks throughout the year?

Buy the drinks/bags off the TP.

Don’t see why they don’t at least allow us to hide it or something.

And I’m sure many others have by now.

So why do we still have to have our UI cluttered by a pointless notification telling us the raid is out? I’m sure everyone has seen it by now and most people have either tried it already, or have no interest in it.

Emerald so far has just been whether or not my team can be carried.

Most games they’re pretty lacking but the enemy team isn’t that great either and I can carry hard enough to get the win.

Sometimes my team is just completely terrible and no one could carry them. I’m talking teams that have no idea how to rotate, no idea how to play their class, and have absolutely terrible builds. People that run into a fight 2 v 2 and just immediately die 3 seconds into the fight as a mesmer.

Also if you do get a green circle on a lit up section, keep in mind that protection does reduce the damage you take.

We have our Revenants activate the glint elite and druids will try to heal everyone up to full, usually we don’t have any issue tanking the hit.

Emerald is horrible. I actually had a game where we got beat 500 to 0. At one point I fought 1 v 3 for 3 minutes at home. And in that time my team, with a 4 v 2, got NOTHING. How is that even possible? How can you not even get 1 kill in a 4 v 2 for 3 minutes?

Probably Vale Guardian. Spent probably over 10 hours wiping with various groups, until I finally managed to get the kill. Gorseval took significantly less and Sabetha took about as much.

I’ve seen two times where a raid boss enraged. Once at Vale Guardian, and once at Gorseval.

Generally, if you’re at the point where you’re hitting the enrage timer, you’re probably about to die either way. Only way I can see timers being an issue is if your damage dealers have very poor builds and/or rotations.

SqualZell.7813:

Wasabi Kitty.8247:

Spoiler alert, not everything is just given away.

You want legendary armor? Then clear the raids and get it. Don’t want to do raids? Then you can’t get the armor.

What if you simply can’t do raids?

A legendary weapon, doesnt matter what class or how much time you have or how good your leet skillz are, given enough time you can make it. If you suck so bad that can only make 1 silver per day you can still get that legendary weapon (it will just take you 274 years) or if you are mediocre, and make 10 gold per day (it will take you slightly over 3 months) or if you are really guud at 50 gold per day (3 weeks)

with legendary armor, if you are that crapy 1 silver per day guy cuz you suck so much at gaming or other medical issues… doesnt matter how long you play you will NEVER get it.

I will be honest. I don’t have much time anymore. (married, first kid, etc) i know with the time i have i can do 10 gold per day(roughly an hours play at night before bed). in 3-4 months i can have twilight or sunrise. (6 months for eternity)

Can’t say the same for legendary armor, given the fact that I only have 1 hour of gaming per day and that is when baby decides to sleep…

hearing about World of Warcraft’s raid guilds and having friends canceling parties or not going out for drinks because “they have a raid schedule, 3-5 nights per week” I swore to myself that i would never play a game that required that kind of real life restrictions to get the end game content.

the only reason I stick with GW2 is that legendary gear has the same stats as the ascended gear. so people who raid don’t have a mechanical edge over me… they just look fancier. but as soon as a raid item becomes 1 stat higher than anything else in the game I’m out.

No one should be at the point where they’ll never be able to clear raids.

Don’t have the gear? You can get it. Don’t have a good build? There’s a ton of guides online. Don’t know good rotations? Again, guides. Don’t know the mechanics? Practice and you will learn them.

I spent probably close to 10 hours on vale guardian the week it was released. First with a group friends, then a guild group, then another guild group, then my dedicated guild’s group. 4 days of at least 2-3 hours each day of attempts and never killed it. Fifth day we killed it in 20 minutes and now we have it on farm. Every week when it resets we run in and kill him within 30 minutes.

Anyone can clear the raid if they’re willing to put in the effort. For some people it will take more effort than others, but if you do put in the effort, you will be able to clear the raid.

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

Wasabi Kitty.8247:

Can drop from the chest you get when you complete your daily. Still has an absurdly low drop rate.

Source? Did you get one yourself?

Guild mate got one.

You can change stats on ascended armor if condi gets nerfed.

No but it helps. You just need very high DPS and condi warrior is the easiest way to achieve that.

Can drop from the chest you get when you complete your daily. Still has an absurdly low drop rate.

They should at least add the recipe for sweet and spicy butternut squash soup to the pact supply network. There’s only 3 on the TP and they’re all going for 100 gold each.

NoTrigger.8396:

Wasabi Kitty.8247:

NoTrigger.8396:

Wasabi Kitty.8247:

Herald is still better with plenty of external quickness, as that allows them to run Shiro/Mallyx.

do you enjoy losing dps?

Not sure how you lose DPS, you can easily have full quickness uptime without shiro.

and thats exactly why shiro mallyx would be a dps loss compared to glint mallyx

My bad I meant Glint/Mallyx

NoTrigger.8396:

Wasabi Kitty.8247:

Herald is still better with plenty of external quickness, as that allows them to run Shiro/Mallyx.

do you enjoy losing dps?

Not sure how you lose DPS, you can easily have full quickness uptime without shiro.

I started Sabetha trying it in Shiro/Glint. After a few tries I switched to Glint/Mallyx because our Mesmer was giving me 100% quickness uptime.

Herald is still better with plenty of external quickness, as that allows them to run Shiro/Mallyx.

Edit: Glint/Mallyx

Samnang.1879:

Nobody wants necro or thieves in raids. You will be heavily discriminated.

I killed Gorseval today with a group that had a condi reaper.

@OP: Herald is probably the best class for VG and Sabetha, for Gorseval the best class is condi warrior.

Laraley.7695:

Wasabi Kitty.8247:

Laraley.7695:

The problem I have is the fact that clearing the whole wing won’t get you your weekly cap. What then? Are we supposed to fail bosses on purpose just to reach the cap?

Killing Sabetha gives you the maximum amount of shards.

You’re sure about this? Also, does it matter if you kill Sabetha only?

I’m not sure if you only need to kill Sabeta, or if you need to kill all bosses.

But if you go in, kill Vale Guardian, Gorseval, then Sabetha, then Sabetha will give you max shards.

Spoiler alert, not everything is just given away.

You want legendary armor? Then clear the raids and get it. Don’t want to do raids? Then you can’t get the armor.

Laraley.7695:

The problem I have is the fact that clearing the whole wing won’t get you your weekly cap. What then? Are we supposed to fail bosses on purpose just to reach the cap?

Killing Sabetha gives you the maximum amount of shards.

First tier requires you to complete the achievement for 2 classes. Next 3 tiers require you to complete the achievement for 3 classes, so you don’t need to play any more than 3 classes.

Without DPS timers you could just stack tank gear and beat any raid boss simply through attrition.

Berserker still has it’s uses but it’s not the end-all be-all of PvE endgame.

Various gears with healing power are useful for healers in raids (though using berserkers on druids still works) as well has things like celestial, rabid, etc. for tanks.

DPS people still need to be on Berserker or Viper gear

This is for raids, for fractals and dungeons it’s all Berserker or Viper

I can’t really see a Ventari Revenant being useful for raids unless you need the projectile block.

If you’re willing to improve, to do some research about your class and various builds, to get proper gear, and keep trying after failing, you will be able to do raids.

If you wipe a few times and give up, if you’re unwilling to get exotic/ascended gear, if you’re unwilling to change your build, you will fail.

And if you can’t do raids, that’s fine, because there’s still a ton of stuff you can do instead

But don’t expect raids to be tailored so that everyone can do them without putting them in the effort. This is challenging content, you can either rise up and meet the challenge, or give up.

By the time you’ve gotten enough shards, you’ll have gotten way more gold from the raid.

Hell just killing Vale Guardian and going through the spirit woods got me 6 gold yesterday.

Wondering if anyone here has experimented with using Scrapper as a tank for raids.

I’ve seen it done before but didn’t get a chance to ask about the build. It seemed very strong for raids, it was able to control the boss consistently, tank the damage, and had a ton of utility with the break bar power of slick shoes and the revive from the gyro.

If you’re having trouble as a Revenant, you need to get good.

Freaking “elitists” have become the boogeyman around here.

Make sure there’s no DPS meters, or the elitists will come get ya! Make sure there’s no gear check, or the elitists will come get ya! Make sure there’s no hard content, or the elitists will come get ya!

Guess what? There really aren’t as many “elitists” as people here claim to see. Are there people out there that think they’re better than everyone else? Absolutely. That’s an intrinsic part of gaming, no, the internet itself. Not even just that, it’s a part of human nature. Whether it’s the diamond player in league of legends raging at his teammates, or the bronze player raging at his teammates. Or maybe it’s the guy on a forum who feels that anyone who disagrees with him is an idiot. Or maybe it’s the loud guy at the bar who feels the need to talk over everyone else. You will never, ever, get away from it.

But just because it exists doesn’t mean every single person who doesn’t run want to run with you is an elitist. Some people just enjoy clearing content at a high level. Finding the optimal strategy, executing it, and perfecting it is a challenge and finally pulling off that sub 10 minute dungeon run is exciting and usually the culmination of hours of trial and error.

The first time I really saw people start to be labeled as elitist was when CoF path 1 speed clearing was a thing. And yea there were kitten who did it sure. But the vast majority of the time, a group wanted to clear it as fast as possible because they were doing it for gold. So what you would often see is, “Hey we’re looking for a mesmer for CoF1 speed farming.” “Hey I’m a necro, can I join?” “Sorry man, we’re looking for a mesmer.” And this exchange would usually be followed by said necro claiming that everyone in the party was an elitist scumbag, before he would run off to the forums and/or reddit to make a post about how elitists are ruining the game.

But are they really? Are they really elitists for trying to do content optimally? Really? Some people just want to do things as efficiently as possible. And you can do so while being respectful, but the problem is the INSTANT that you tell someone that their build isn’t ideal or that you can’t take them to do some piece of content with them, you are INSTANTLY labeled as an elitist by this community.

Some people need a reality check, just because you aren’t wanted on an instance it isn’t because the people who rejected you think they’re somehow better than you, they just want to clear the content efficiently and you’re unable to assist them with that.

And I don’t understand this desire, no, this obsession with wanting to clear content with people, that you supposedly don’t want to play with! If you think people that demand full ascended gear are elitists, then why do you want to run with them so much? If anything, they’re doing you a favor by making a gear check, because then you can instantly identify them as someone you don’t want to run with, and can go ahead and leave.

And you mention rejecting someone who has exotic armor with ascended weapons and trinkets, but what comes after that? What if you reject someone because you ask for ascended armor/trinkets with exotic armor, and they only had ascended weapons with exotic armor + trinkets? Or full exotic? Or rare gear? Or master sigils/runes instead of superior? At what point do you become an elitist?

Most dungeons can be soloed as they are now. Only exception is ones that have mechanics that require multiple people such as CoF1/3

PvP rewards, fractal drops, crafting, one from a seed pouch from SW, and one from the bioluminescence achievement.

He’s not wrong.

Honestly this game is extremely fair to everyone.

You want a precursor? You can craft it. “Oh but it’s expensive if I buy all the ascended mats off the trading post!”

So… don’t buy them? You can grab a pickaxe and a logging axe and run around the map for 20 minutes a day and craft the ascended mats yourself. You do that for 1 to 2 months, boom you got a precursor. But do you do it? Of course not. Because you’re lazy and you’d rather whine about it.

Scrapper tank is very good, probably better tank than any other class.

Condi necro won’t really be that welcome in raids, because condi engi is just so much better.

Guardian is pretty much just tank or DPS, revenant is pretty much just DPS. So when you compare those guardian versus revenant, revenant is much better.

DPS revenant, by far.

So that’s where all my AP went.

To give players an alternative to praying to RNGesus or buying it on the TP.

Raids are hard. You cannot approach it with a mentality that anyone and everyone can complete it, because that isn’t the case. One or two players that don’t truly understand how to play optimally will cause your entire group to fail.

The problem is, it’s hard to tell someone no. It’s hard to tell someone that you can’t bring them on your raid group, because they have a bad build, or because they don’t know how to play well enough to clear the raid. You can be friends with someone all you want, but if they’re running full zealots gear on their rifle + mace/shield warrior, they’re not going to be able to clear the raid.

It’s probably better to just not mention that you’re raiding than have to tell them they’re not cut out for raids.

You should share with the PvP team, they’re clearly starving to death.