Guild Wars 2

In the end you even could go for a vigor sigil since the mesmer can’t really make full use of other sigils except might stack.

However I don’t think it’s a big deal to have ~25% less dodges.

I like Caro’s

If the ele stays inside the hallowed before the tw – yes.

Not really no. I just tested the following thing with my engi:
Smoke bomb -> Fire bomb -> explosion finisher = invisibility (seems legit)

But then strange things happened when I did overlapping fields:
Light field cast, fire bomb next to it (the center of the fields are not overlapping!) -> finisher = might (but fire bomb was cast AFTER the light field)

however if i do it again with smoke bomb and fire bomb i get invisibility again. so there must be something else hidden that causes some trouble… any ideas? still testing…

EDIT: ok when i stay inside the light field radius when it goes of and then cast outside a fire field that overlaps the light field i get retalation! If i stay outside the light field when i start casting it and then cast the overlapping fire field i get might o.o

EDIT2: well now i start to understand… if i cast the light field where i’m not standing and the fire field under my feet, and i walk into the overlapping part BEFORE the fire field goes off -> retalation, AFTER the fire field goes off -> might. So the newest field in wich i stay or what??? it’s so unbelevable confusing! why can’t a developer just tell us the priority? i guess they don’t know it either XD

EDIT3: oviously: for explosion finishers at least: it is not the first field that has been created, IT IS THE FIRST FIELD YOU HAVE STEPPED INTO. It seems you gain some kind of hidden status “entered fire field” and after it “entered light field” so fire takes priority. Seems the solution!

Pyroatheist.9031:

I’m nearly positive that new fields overwrite old ones. I’ll test today.

New > Old

LordByron.8369:

i do quite often new fields overwrite old…..Unless something strange happened every time i use my ele even in www its what happens.

New > Old

DuckDuckBOOM.4097:

Checked again with a few party members and solo. The field that goes down first is the one that gets blasted.

Old > New

So what now? I also got the assumption that a field that tics will override another field. So if you put a fire field that tics on the battleground and a etheralfield over it, will the combofield be: fire, etheral, fire, etheral until one runs out? Maybe this can be the reason too. However it would be kinda silly :S

I guess this is slowly gonna happen. Look at those nightmare sylvaries from scarlet and the krait tower event. You know what I mean – I dunno how they are called inenglish :P

Except the annoying death they act pretty smart, they even dodge. Some more skills would be great in general yes.

10/30/0/20/10 is not a good allround build, its the best reflection build however. 15/30/0/25/0 is a bit more offensive than 10/30/0/30/0 but is in general the same. Also 10/20/0/25/15 or 0/30/0/25/15 exist and are pretty strong atm. There is no “best build” unless you play the same stuff again and again and again. Mesmer builds allways are about phantasms, self damage and utility. Sometimes one of them is stonger if focused than another one in specific situations.

It’s kinda hard to put a warden on a temporal curtain, but you can put the tc under the warden pretty easy yes. Pretty nice condition remover tough, good that you mentioned it. Too bad we don’t have any fire or water fields, neither any explosion finishers except the torch 4.

btt: I’m not sure about this but is it rly new field priority > old field? Would actually make it a lot better. Never really tested it, gonna do so tonight, nice input! Chaos armor / etheral field is still better than no field and no buff.

Even with 3000 range the mortar would still be silly atm…

Well I play engineer and what makes me happy and what I can grant a warrior ally is:

• Engineers like fire fields for their explosions
• Engineers grant fire fields for your explosions (warhorn?)
• Engineers grant you permanently 15 stacks might if well played, if you don’t have them, wait for it with burst skills like 100blades
• You don’t have to worry much about vulnerability. Engi can keep it up, with bufffood even 25 stacks on non-champs+
• Engineers cause vulnerability on crit → Banner with Precision <3
• Engineers do not like other fields than water and fire. Anything else disturbs them
• Engineers usually have a trait that grants +2% dmg per different condition on the enemy – but I guess they do them by themselves instead of asking a warrior for assistance
• Engineers can cause much bleeding for the warrior trait +% dmg against bleeding enemies.
• Engineers can hold and blind for your 100blades with bombs
• Engineers do not like moving targets
• Engineers can clean your conditions

Yes thats actually everything Basicly → the engineer grants you the luxus and buffs aswell conditions for the enemy to maximize your damage. Good match up. Make sure you both are charr for the feeling

The mortar should be a vehicle, some kind of crappy mini tank that can move and still use mortar skills. The range should be 2k yes, it’s a MORTAR. Also the damage should be better aswell vulnerability should be applied too. And fix them lags… finally…

Lag has nothing to do with the settings. Or do you mean spikes?

what are you talking about? o.O

FpS allways annoyed me… I can buy what ever I want, play at low quality still just 50~ … I don’t know why >_> However it’s 50 at highest quality too so … wtf

Well just zerk equip and signets and ofc 30/25/0/0/15 makes the 15k. Now with bloodlust and might he gets up to 22k. Then vulnerability = 27.5k

Is the rest really enough to get up to 80k? -.-’’ btw what does frost spirit do?

Tetsuyja.7805:

Xyonon.3987:

tbh i’m not really sure if it’s really just 0.25sec or if it’s 3x 0.25 sec like the bleeding o.o’’

interesting thought… i have to check it… that’s should be a question at a-net… i doubt it, but i dodged so many times several attacks with 1x #3 that it might be…

Pretty much this. I doubt that I am able to dodge multiple attacks within 0.25 sec :o

tbh i’m not really sure if it’s really just 0.25sec or if it’s 3x 0.25 sec like the bleeding o.o’’

May I ask how in hell one manages to get such high nubers? My friend got a warrior that is full exo equipped lv 80 full zerk and 100b hits for 8k uncritted. Means about 15k critted with 60% chance and 100% dmg. With 25 stacks might and 25 stacks vulnerability it will be 26k. So – how HOW will one get 80-100k?! I understand ascended and bufffood etc for about 30-40k but … 80+!? Or have Arah mobs just such a low defense?

Isn’t thief anyway about using all the weapons depending on situation? I mean I don’t play the thief for a long time now but I’m used to change weapons from mesmer play. I often change the weapons multiple times for each dungeon run o.o

Btt: managed it yesterday to evade almost all fire explosions of the cof p1 endboss with dd3 to save vigor for at least one oh kitten dodge. I’m getting better and better at this

I used to use the nullfield too back in my days. But the long cd made it too … well … how can I call it? It’s just a “NOW should everything neutralize”-moment. It’s not flexibel enough. However it still is great in some situations, sometimes I even use both of em.

Btw try not to create etheral combo fields. They just disturb your group if you have somone who benefits from fields like an engineer, a thief or an ele or any “20% projectile” class. The chaosarmor is pathetic compared to might and heal. For example as engineer I put down a fire bomb and rush the combo finishers for 9-15 stacks might for everyone for 25 sec. If there is a etheral field it sux terrible … :P Chaos armor … It requires a buff in PvE.

In general zerker yes. Some vita / toughness may not be false too. But mainly power, precision and crit dmg.

Skipping them doesnt have to be challenging – it has to be removed. Also it’s no fun to just kill enemies. It has to be some kind of mini event all the time

LordByron.8369:

Only thing i don t like is the scepter….if used as it should it delete your 3rd phantasm with the autoattack.

Gs has a phant with decent DPS AND aoe..if you need ranged options i d go with it.

Short range the scepter hits better than the GS, long range vice versa ofc. The scepter has a better phantasm (pistol / swordie) for single target and the GS for aoe. There is also the Staff for survivability and bossfight with conditions.

In general: Go melee if you can, if you are forced to go range:

Greatsword for AoE or long range dps where phantasms can’t survive or meatshields are there. Single target and block at shrot the scepter it is (short range = allies = boons)! And for mobility and 4+ conditions on the enemy: Staff.

For example fire and frost duo boss fotm: Staff + GS, mainly GS, Staff to escape. Dwayna is staff = 20k crits. And another example for the scepter is in CM that guy with the knockdowngun (can’t be reflected, but meatshield with clones n’ block).

greez!

Stay at zerker stuff. Improve your skills but don’t lower your dps.

Nullfield isn’t that strong anymore. It removes every condition and boon once. Just use it if you also have to remove the boons of enemies or if you really need tons of condition remover.

In general better go for the mantra. It has a low cd and removes 2 times 2 conditions for everyone. It’s more flexible and increases your dmg by 4% when traited. Also use the healing mantra and trait for condition remove on heal. So you can now cleanse yourself 3 times for 2 conditions and allies 2 times for 2 conditions. Perfect for annoying conditions wich occur ofen but aren’t many at once.

Change traits and adapt to the situation.

Valarauka.2719:

Scholar runes are generally considered to be the best.

They are shifting some damage from your phantasms to yourself compared to the ruby orbs. All the ruby orb stats are working 1:1 for the phantasms. In the end none of them are better just that:

• ruby orbs are way cheaper
• in case of broken armor they still work
• unterwater you don’t need the 7th rune to work instead of your helmet gear
• since new signet phantasms are pretty much 50% of our damage; defenitly more when fighting a boss mob.
• they still work 100% even if you are struck once

Valarauka.2719:

Having two swords is still good because you can run S/S that way which I often prefer over S/P.

Also you automaticly trait main an offhand wich won’t happen with a pistol.

maxinion.8396:

If you want the single most efficient build, the above builds are slightly wrong.
10/30/0/20/10 and 0/30/0/25/15 are better. The 30 in inspiration does not give you anything worth taking.

“The single most efficient build” – shows 2 builds what are definitly weaker. Seems legit.

• 10 in dominion are a must have. +17.25% phantasm damage is not ignoreable for any other trait.
• 10 in illusions is a waste of points in any case. You choose +3% per illusion for yourself over +17.25% for your illusions? Really? Also illusion 5 is useless but inspiration 30 isn’t °
• 15 in illusions is understandable, however 10/20/0/25/15 is far better than the 0/30 unless you play with 4 mantras all the time wich I doubt.

In my eyes both of those builds are bad in general, however they may be good in arah only, wich I guess is where you are refering to. The best 2 builds for an allrounder are definitly 10/30/0/30/0 or 10/20/0/25/15 or if you are totally new to the game 20/20/0/30/0 (gs newb).

° Inspiration 30 is useless? I don’t know why you play a mesmer then. The best utility comes from that traitline. Reflection on ress (even NPC), cdr + duration of glamour, condition cleanse on heal, mantra heal, focus trait, or sometimes even 20% phant hp. There are enough reasons to go 30 there over let’s say 10 in illusions, especially if you are sacrificing 25 too …

talking about dungeons btw ^^ sry for that

Me still wants a fan for the mesma :o

http://images.v-media.eu/guild-wars-2/Mesmer.jpg

I’d like to use it in PvE but explosives and elixier gun are just way better in general. Any situations when I could make use of it?

So it has been nerfed? Sad Well it’s really allways a little “happyness-party-moment” in my head when I dodge an attack with it since it feels so hard. But how do I manage to stay with DD aganst a boss? He turns around wants to hit me, so shall I backoff and reengage with heartseeker? Well he just hits me again >_> So PP? Seems to be the best ranged single target dps thx to 3.

Sometimes I think of using SP cuz of its insane 3 skill against champs. Normally 5 yes, but blind won’t work on champs+ that great so the hidden evade on 3 seems to be too strong imo.

So should I quit using DD or just 5,1,5,1 til 25% and then 2,2,2,2 while praying for not getting struck? :/

It’s a free evade, since (new to thief) we got no vigor and somehow often gain aggro. I just would like to be able to use it as a dodge.

So… you melee the flame and frost bosses? Or are you using a scepter and staff?

You sound like you are talking about PvP / WvW? This thread is for PvE only and there a 1 sec chill/pois/weakness sux terrible aswell the whole chaos armor. Also who the hell has points to trait the bounce in PvE? Still traited it deals 2x the damage, in a good case even 3 times, in a bad one just once. The GS also is able to hit up to 3 targets, just with much mroe damage.

You are talking about the too weak minor good sides of the staff but ignoring the huge tradeoff of dps. The support is also just weak, except for 2 (wich isn’t op, just balanced …). It’s in a terrible place if you look at it in PvE.

Well time has passed since release and it also takes time to create new things – remember the aetherblade path? That’s a dungeon!

but it’s 13:13 here :o gn8 sir!

well i recommend battle for 6 stacks perma might since they work for you and your phantasms, but +% sigils aswell on crit won’t.

Also try to aim for targets in the background. The GS will penetrate trough 2 enemies and hitting a 3rd. Scepter 3 will do this to 5 targets btw. There are many tricks but I guess we are overdoing it slowly xD

Greetings everyone – I’ll make it as short as possible:

I feel like dungeons in this game are just a skipping puzzle and feel boring after you’ve done them a few times. You try to evade as much trouble as you can so you can finish the dungeon as fast as possible to get the rewards.

So … how about … that each mob in the dungeon grants your team points wich will end up in additional cash and tokens in the end of the run. So if you skip everything you’ll be fast but get less rewards. If you clear the whole dungeon even CoF1 takes 20 minutes to deal with but grants you more rewards.

It probably shouldn’t affect infinite spawned mobs like CoF2 helping megg to blow up the entrance to the endboss etc.

Also what about even more rewards like “you have never been downed this run -> +5% token” or “you rescured a downed ally with less than 25% HP, brave heart! +5% token” or what ever!

I wish there would be just MORE to do in a dungeon than just get trough there. Maybe even a randomized bonus mission like “if noone dies in this run +5% cash” “if you kill every boss before it’s adds +5% cash” etc etc etc.

I honestly think it would improve gameplay and generate more fun also buffing defensive equipment like healing guards, mesmer, or tanky condition builds. so…

what do you think??

Just wondering: I allways hear Sword is great with ranger, but what else? Horn? Greatsword? Still shortbow??? Also as pet a kitty or a big fat lizard? xD

True that! If your allies are newbs and can’t melee, don’t solo then. Better run GS or even Scepter when you fight just one target. Don’t forget you are still able to switch for a neat rotation with for example Sword Sword + Scepter Pistol against bosses → blocks and distortion when in melee.

The scepter 1 and GS 1 deal about the same damage, scepter however gets faster attack speed in close combat, gs more power in ranged combat (makes it difficult to swap to sword for burst and sigil of battle however).

Actually keep every weapon with yourself. Just the torch seems to be useless in every situation in PvE :/

But if i click once 1 the animation won’t get interrupted by 3 wich causes sometimes a long delay. :/ So how can I interrupt a skill by myself? >_>

So it equals to ~6% crit chance for everyone – neat o.O Why should one not take this? Again the “passive dmg doesn’t exist” disease?

I’m really getting tired of this: An enemy attacks me, I dodge with D/D 3, the enemy attacks me again, I want to try to dodge again too with 3 but even by pressing at the right moment he still waits til dagger auto attack animation is done and jumps too late -> result: I get struck.

How do you deal with it? It’s definitly not lag, since I can time other skills on other professions too. I really suffer from waiting for the last animation ending. It’s just 1/4 sec dodge, and if its so random it’s nearly impossible to use.

Is there a trick?

tyvm >.<

Well the iWarlock hits if you can keep an enemy moving straight or staying still. He’s the highest dps phantasm we have. But if he misses it hurts so bad >_> … Still worth summoning tough.

Even if zerker/condition meta is changed: iWarlock is full zerker phantasm, aswell chaos storm. Just the basics are kinda 50:50. I guess it would make almost 0 changes. Most condtitions are applied without focusing on them, like vulnerability, bleeding, and at least 2 random condis. And to tag the GS in open world is far better – hits 3 enemies, instant.

The staff is too weak and without direct skill buffs it will stay as specific as the scepter. Rarely used but when you find a place to use it, it’s “ok”.

btw: vulnerability on 1 is pretty good imo. deals more damage then bleeding so …

may I ask what “spotter” means? ._.’’

Very outdated.

A) 10/30/0/30/0
B) 10/20/0/25/15

Choose one. A) is more damage for you when you use a few mantras (4% per) and more dmg for your phantasms in general aswell more utility. is more damage for you when illusions are alive (3% per) and less CD for resummoning illusions and phantasms. More mobility due also less CD for skills that summon illusions. But just 2 support skills at Inspiration trait line.

Domination: +15% phant dmg
Duelling: traited sword, fury for phants, (dmg per mantra)
Inspiration: nearly everything there is good -> especially focus traited
(Illusions: dmg per illusion)

Overall go full Zerk and use Bloodlust and Sigill of Battle for max DpS. If you have much gold also get also +5% dmg weapons with you if bloodlust is full.

As for weapons use sword / focus + greatsword in open world. In dungeons use a 2nd sword or a pistol instead of the greatsword since you have to stay melee for max dps and therefore a gs is a bad choice.

If you need range: short range dps -> scepter + pistol, long range dps -> gs, if the enemy has 4+ conditions on it permanently -> staff (+ evade)

I hope i could help! greez

Once upon a time the staff was a great defensive and offensive tool of the mesmer. Chaos armor allways granted protection upon activation and the chaos storm granted aegis at the first and last tic, wich resulted into well timed aoe blocks. Since those things have been “fixed” the staff feels overall too weak in PvE.

1
Staff 1 is a weak direct damage wich a low hitting condition aswell combined with slow attack speed. The boons it grants are semigood. I recommend to give it an additional bounce in order to increase it’s dps and boon sharing. Clones shall not be affected by this (However make the trait for additional bounce work for them already, trident works too so it’s obviously a bug).

2
Nothing to do here, awesome skill. Great escape and defensive tool.

3
Almost awesome. The only huuuuuge negative point is: It misses … it misses so often. If an enemy stops walking, starts walking, turns around or simply does something else than when the iWarlock starts to cast – it misses. It requires a homing projectile so bad, it’s more a bugfix in my eyes. It’s also terrible annoying when it tries to shoot over a cliff and the iWarlock projectile simple falls down and vanishes …

4
Grants you a shield of useless-ness Just created that word so don’t correct me! >:( btt: You gain buffs if you get hit, like protection to prevent the next damage you gain … like from the just blinded enemy … if it attacks fast enough … wich never happens in pve tbh.
Upon activation it should grant Aegis. I mean it has a 30sec (~) cd my god. After activation the other boons should randomly pop up like standing in a chaos storm. The 2nd (not aegis!) should also happen on chaos armors granted by combo finishers since they are useless aswell. A etheral field normally annoys the fire and water spammers. Lets change that.

5
Long cd, about 5k critted damage, random buffs, terrible conditions (especially durations). The only amazing thing about this is its animation and sound <3. Bring back the old days! I understand 2 stacks aegis was too hard, but it should grant aegis as first tic allways, so you can time it for protecting the team. Then just let the random boons work as they do now.
As for conditions, chill and poison are great, but not if they just last 1 sec. In PvE enemies just laught about those condition with such a duration. The daze is ok, since it interrupts and scales well with dominion 5 and 15. I recommend to increase the durations of poison and chill effect to at least 4 sec.
Also maybe even the damage should be increased. It hits for very low damage. It’s obviously ok to deal low damage cuz of the buffs but 500-1000tic x5? It has a 35 sec cd, so I really think a few more % damage wouldn’t hurt. But that would be luxus. I would already be happy with just the aegis as fist tic again.

So my dear friends – what do you mean? Is it really just me or is the staff currently buffed or weak? Thx for reading.

- greez

Well for PvE: Explosives all the way. Bombs, grenades, elixier gun, healturret. Important: vulnerability on crit. With bufffood you manage to stack 25 stacks by you own, without you can keep up 15 stacks. Use many combo fields ’n finisher and have fun.

However Engineer is very stressful to play since you are constantly switching kits for combos.

Oh yes and never use main hand weapon skill 1.

Thx to everyone for all the answers!

I just noticed yesterday with my rl mate who plays an ele: his fire field and sb 2 spam is kinda fun I have to say thief is pretty sexy in PvE, I don’t know why there are just a few of ’em

btw: +7% crit from behind or more vita per precision? I prefer 2nd since 10 or 11.5k HP makes a huge difference o.o Also Rings? Atm got ascended Power, Precision, Vita, Crit and one (found an infused one that’s why I use it) Power Toughness and a 3rd main stat (prec or crit i beleve). Shall I really go full zerker or get myself some vita?

They often stay outside of my TW with their semi good sb dmg.
Agains crowds they still seem to use single target weapons.
They grant almost 0 support compared to other classes.
They deal less damage than warriors.
They cause less vulnerability and passive damage than engi (ex).

Overall they are like weaker warriors tbh. Their ranged dps may be the highest but sadly ranged is semigood in this game. Harder enemies?

^this

For example if a mesmer casts feedback on a daggerstorming thief he dies immediately (the mesmer) since all the projectiles fly back to the thief but daggerstorm reflects too and now the projectiles are immune to feedback and fly all directly to the mesmer. However if the mesmer uses mimic now he reflects again and daggerstorm can’t reflect the same projectiles a 2nd time and the tief faints.

Common phantasm build maybe? As mesmer you anyway can’t rely on the same weapon all the time, you have to switch :/

But in the end ye – simple phantasm build or condition (haha pve ) … go full zerker.