Guild Wars 2

Thaddeus.4891:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

I’m not sure why people keep quoting this “every 2 weeks” crap…

We have had 6 LS updates since January… and this was probably the last one for the year…

That is one update every 2 months… the same as WoW… GW2 does not have some special super fast update schedule that people seem to think it has…

Well to be fair, you had 39 update since october 2012. This mean about one update each 22 days. If you start to count in april 2013 when they start to talk about 1 update each 2 weeks, then its 1 update each 18 days, which is basically 1 update each 2 weeks.

I don’t count anything from season 1 as an “update”

Some of the “updates” back then were literally click F on this sign post! “UPDATE!!!” It got better towards the end, but it was still an entirely different format. Back then they used to tell us about their big plans for the game too, doesn’t make it true for this year though.

I’m not sure why people keep quoting this “every 2 weeks” crap…

We have had 6 LS updates since January… and this was probably the last one for the year…

That is one update every 2 months… the same as WoW… GW2 does not have some special super fast update schedule that people seem to think it has…

What was the difference between normal mode and “challenge” mode. They both seemed pretty much the same to me.

Anet never ceases to amaze me with how little content they can put out.

It’s been 2.5 years. Most games would of had a full expansion out plus regular updates. Anet has managed to only release 2 new maps, no classes, no skills, no races, a tiny fraction of a story, and only 2 new features in all that time.

Last update was a glimmer of hope in what a regular release schedule should have been, but Anet just can’t keep up.

yay more gem store items, just what this game needs!!!1

/sarcasm

Cuddy.6247:

Capitol City.4856:

What area of the game specifically are you talking about? I really hope you’re not talking about this story patch, because it was hecka easy :P

Speak for yourself. I had to form up with friends to do it with half of my characters. The white knights of ANet pretending that the latest Living Story releases haven’t promoted further marginalization are out of their mind.

The open world content isn’t too bad, it’s just anything solo that sucks pretty hard. Albeit you almost have to do some content solo because nobody wants to help. I smell a hero system being implemented within 3 years at this rate.

You almost have to do it solo because it is so easy that no one needs to ask for help.

This was literally one of the easiest chapters so far. I got all 6 achievements on my first run through as well.

Once people realize how terrible the rewards are they will go back to farming shovels and chests above ground inbetween the events.

We now get 20 minutes of zerg chest farming if people would stop going underground which costs more money than you make.

I think people don’t play eles and don’t even realize that you can’t change weapons as an ele. Only way to switch to a ranged weapon is to redo the instance.

The books in the Durmand Priory told us she was corrupted… and yet for some reason we invite her on a top secret mission, let her grab the egg, and just stand there while she runs away with it…

I just… what…

http://www.zam.com/story.html?story=35399

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/11/18/guild-wars-2s-tangled-paths-update-goes-live-today/

Looks like we are going under SW

We all know that RNG has been broken since launch.

I mean whenever you loot a rare item, there is a 95% chance that the next rare item will be the same identical thing. Real “random”…

Anet just either doesn’t care or doesn’t have the resources to revamp the entire RNG system. It is what it is.

Garambola.2461:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Ascended gear is so easy to get now a days I don’t know why you wouldn’t get a set. The last alt I leveled went from lvl 1 to full ascended gear in 2 weeks. Too bad all my characters are light armor so I don’t get the stupid collection achievement.

It is only easy if you are rich and have already gathered the account bound things. Try doing the same on a new account without buying gems to turn into gold or getting stuff handed to you. Then you can say it is ‘so easy’. Take even a month and I’ll eat my imaginary hat.

you can get enough ascended mats for a full set in 5-6 hours in SW thanks to the newly introduced chests.

Gold is easy to get from the TP since I already know how it works so all the buyable mats wouldn’t be an issue either, especially with the recent dip in silk price.

I think the limiting factor would be laurels and karma for the recipes. I’m not sure if those could be had within a month or not.

A month seems about right for a new account, maybe two, but I was mostly talking about alts. They aren’t a whole lot of new accounts 2 years after launch with no expansion. Mostly just vets, who should be able to easily get a set, especially with all the recent farms added to the game. (ToT bags, chest farm)

I think this thread should be renamed:

People who don’t rez dragging everyone down.

Ascended gear is so easy to get now a days I don’t know why you wouldn’t get a set. The last alt I leveled went from lvl 1 to full ascended gear in 2 weeks. Too bad all my characters are light armor so I don’t get the stupid collection achievement.

Wanze.8410:

I make more than 100g profit through the forge on average per week while spending less than an hour doing it. Most people cant be bothered with the clicking or averaging out your rng and stop after hitting a bad run.

This ^^

The forge is very profitable if you are willing to calculate out the averages and learn what to do and not what to do. Only takes me like 10 minutes a day of actual play to make lots of gold.

This is already in the game… it is called the DR system…

I feel like people who post suggestions have never actually played the game. This is like the 3rd “suggestion” this week for a feature already present in the game.

The DR system is already in the game and it limits the amount of loot you get if you loot items too fast over a short period of time. It generally kicks in after 2 hours of solo farming or about 20 minutes of super zerg farming.

These are mostly long term items. I’d say expect a rise in prices around August or so. There may be a few spikes here and there as speculators buy things up or dump them.

The focus is Esports and the Gem store.

They have a very well defined focus that is reinforced by their actions. The problem is, is that 90% of the players don’t like their focus so they just pretend there is no focus.

People keep hoping for some mystical announcement that the game is going to suddenly take off in a new exciting direction after 2.5 years. Get real, the focus is to promote esports and throw stupid amounts of prize money at it to make it look like people are interested. Since almost no one actually plays PvP and even less people actually watch it they are boosting their profits by heavy use of the gem store in recent months.

Err why are people suggesting ideas that already exist in the game?

You already get a 5-15% exp bonus on alts account wide… It’s called achievement bonus.

Between the heaps of exp boosters, the achievement bonus, the lvl 20 scrolls and tomes on knowledge it is already almost impossible for new players to find people leveling up because alts just blow by them. if anything we need LESS boosts for alts.

The only problem with stacking is that 90% of PvE players don’t understand why you stack.

As long as the only role is DPS, everyone can bring utility and dodge is 100% dmg avoidance, then there will be stacking.

Playing smart is not “ez-mode”, it is just playing smart.

Yes I could make the game harder by removing all my armor and never dodging, but that isn’t really the point now is it?

Acierx.5106:

Still not soloable correct?

Fixed about 7 days ago, pretty easy to solo, super easy in a group of 2 or more.

Nothing wrong with it as long as it is 1 action per 1 key press. Two mice controlling two characters is fine, but you could NOT for instance have a single keyboard linked to both accounts as that would go against the macroing policy.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Behellagh.1468:

Just wait for ESO. Okay just wait for WS. Well just wait for the new WoW expansion.

This time for sure.

We did wait for each of those… and each of those games showed a 5-10% drop for GW2. GW2 can only handle so many 5-10% drops before there is no one left to drop…

Maybe Anet should consider making actual content for a change and try to recover some of those players?

Really? 5 – 10% drop? I’d love to see the numbers that show this amount of loss that directly correlated to the release time period of these other games. I haven’t been able to find any substantial concurrency (or any other kind of) numbers about Guild Wars 2’s playerbase. Could you please post the link? Thanks in advance! =)

The link is literally at the top of this thread… it is what we are discussing….

Just look at the quarterly reports corresponding to the release of each of the major titles over the past 2 years and you will see a dip in profit for GW2 that never recovers.

In particular look for:

WoW expansions
Wildstar
ESO
Archage
FF some large number

Behellagh.1468:

Just wait for ESO. Okay just wait for WS. Well just wait for the new WoW expansion.

This time for sure.

We did wait for each of those… and each of those games showed a 5-10% drop for GW2. GW2 can only handle so many 5-10% drops before there is no one left to drop…

Maybe Anet should consider making actual content for a change and try to recover some of those players?

Good riddance on the retaliation. 300 dmg per attack with 100% uptime. My poor ele only has 11k health. That is 30 attacks and i’m dead. 30 attacks is like 10 seconds and does ~20% of the wolfs health.

It took me almost an hour to beat the vet wolf for that achievement in the instance. I never got past 70% legit, I ended up standing on some boxes where he could hit me and then lowered myself to 20% health, heal, wait for heal CD, heal again, attack for 10 seconds… repeat.

Harper.4173:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Kasima.8143:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

1. creates a split community. The people who participate in the farm quickly gain wealth, while those who don’t are left behind. This leads to a rich get richer, poor get poorer scenario where the community is fractured.

2. Mats become too common, continually falling in price until they eventually hit vendor price. This may seem like a good thing until you realize that the only thing that keeps most people playing the game is having long term goals. If they can suddenly buy every awesome skin they want in one day the game quickly becomes stale and boring and many players leave. This was a major problem in the beginning of the game and is why ascended gear was introduced. Devaluing ascended gear like this farm did is going to end up with a lot of players quitting and they may need to add in a new gear tier to bring them back.

There is no split. Stop looking at gold. Gold is absolutely and completely irrelevant. Gold isn’t the end, it is a MEAN to buy stuff. What you should be looking at is how easy it is to buy things and with farms, it becomes super easy. When mat prices hit vendor price, it means that it’s super easy to buy them. So everybody wins and the poor aren’t actually poorer, because their purchase power increases too, due to the lower prices.

If you only look at the very specific items supplied by the farm sure… if you look at the economy as a whole then what happens is exactly what I said would happen.

Certain mats get cheaper, everyone can buy those now. The people farming collect large quantities of gold, the people who don’t farm do not have this gold. The people who farm now have much greater purchasing power. All items not related to the farm increase sharply in price as the wealthy compete for these items and drive the price up. People who did not participate in the farm are completely priced out of the market and are much worse off than before.

You might as well be saying “people who aren’t playing are being left behind by the ones that are playing”.

It’s common sense that if you want to earn rewards in a game you have to play it. If you want your rewards fast – you have to play it effectively.

Look at it this way – if farmers are farming and selling something they’re making money but the person buying it also achieves his goal of using said material to craft whatever they were going for.
Ultimately he’s completing a goal he set for himself.

The bottom line is this : if you want to be ahead in this game or any other you have to actively participate in it, inform yourself and use your knowledge and time in order to actually get ahead.

If you don’t do these things you will be left behind and that’s pretty much the way it is. It’s the same everywhere else in the world.

I completely agree with you, however if you look around at these forums you will find that it is not a popular opinion. People are constantly asking for precursors to be artificially reduced in price, farmers to be banned, even straight up saying that gold should be taken from players and given to poorer players.

Unfortunately the number of poor people who want stuff for free greatly outnumber the people willing to work and earn the items, and it seems people willing to work for their stuff are fighting a losing battle.

Kasima.8143:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

1. creates a split community. The people who participate in the farm quickly gain wealth, while those who don’t are left behind. This leads to a rich get richer, poor get poorer scenario where the community is fractured.

2. Mats become too common, continually falling in price until they eventually hit vendor price. This may seem like a good thing until you realize that the only thing that keeps most people playing the game is having long term goals. If they can suddenly buy every awesome skin they want in one day the game quickly becomes stale and boring and many players leave. This was a major problem in the beginning of the game and is why ascended gear was introduced. Devaluing ascended gear like this farm did is going to end up with a lot of players quitting and they may need to add in a new gear tier to bring them back.

There is no split. Stop looking at gold. Gold is absolutely and completely irrelevant. Gold isn’t the end, it is a MEAN to buy stuff. What you should be looking at is how easy it is to buy things and with farms, it becomes super easy. When mat prices hit vendor price, it means that it’s super easy to buy them. So everybody wins and the poor aren’t actually poorer, because their purchase power increases too, due to the lower prices.

If you only look at the very specific items supplied by the farm sure… if you look at the economy as a whole then what happens is exactly what I said would happen.

Certain mats get cheaper, everyone can buy those now. The people farming collect large quantities of gold, the people who don’t farm do not have this gold. The people who farm now have much greater purchasing power. All items not related to the farm increase sharply in price as the wealthy compete for these items and drive the price up. People who did not participate in the farm are completely priced out of the market and are much worse off than before.

I participated in at least a dozen amber farm maps and I never once saw any toxicity… SS or it didn’t happen.

Crests are pathetically easy to get.

5-8 crests per event… you can easily complete 3 events every 5 minutes at a single camp, up to 5 events in 5 minutes if you rotate between camps. (defend, rubble, ox). That is 15-24 crests every 5 minutes. Plus you get 25-50 crests for each boss you kill. You can easily tag 3 bosses in the 5 minute fight, so that is another 75-150 crests.

So you get easily get (at minimum) 250 crests an hour…

that means you will have to “grind” and “farm” a maximum of 4 hours for this so called “legendary” armor…

*edit: Just realized I forgot to mention that when all 4 forts are held at level 3+ you get 25 crests for a defend completion, making it even easier than stated for most maps.

Zaklex.6308:

I think the reason those paths seem linear is because the 3 paths into the zone with the large flowery Mordrem plant that we see in ’Caithe’s Reconnaissance Squad’ are linear, and that is where it looked like we where going, either that or through the little mini-canyon at the top of Dry Top that is currently blocked by the vines(but that you can get through with a little effort, to get a chest in the back). The size of Magus Falls(the next zone looks like it will be released in 2 or 3, maybe even 4 episodes, before we get to Mordremoth, if we even get to it in this season.

There is only 3 episodes left. Based on the current schedule we will finish up December 16th and get the next LS in April. I wouldn’t expect any more zones until then.

Does bug effect esports and/or gem store sales:

if yes → fix

if no→ throw away bug report

There you go.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

skullmount.1758:

So, nothing still with that weird creature/roaring plant thing?
I wonder if we’re gonna have to go through one or more of the store doorways that can be found throughout silverwaste.

That weird mini-dragon/plant looks pretty cool though. Seems like it will be in an instance and not a open world thing.
The part with all the lightning/fire/aoes looks like it will be open world stuff though.

I think that’s just a regular mordrem. Maybe that particular one is a champion level enemy, but it looks just like a Mordrem Teragriff

Oh god…. A champion teragriff?!?!?! How would you even kill such a thing if you can’t cc it?

A single champ teragriff could take out 90% of GW2 players in a single charge…

Beldin.5498:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

The sad thing is that this is the SECOND expansion that WoW has launched since GW2 came out… WoW has released more content in a single expansion than the entire game of GW2 contains since launch… and now they are adding 100% more…

The sad thing is, that when WoW released its first expansion after 2 years !! Everquest 2
already released its THIRD expansion .. and still more people played that crappy game.

I wonder if there was also so much DOOM in the WoW forums where everybody
wrote that WoW would die if they not finally get an expansion.

Not likely… since WoW added multiple dungeons, multiple raids, new zones, new PvP modes and actual large balance patches in those 2 years. They got an expansions worth of content and then also got an actual expansion.

Is WvW esports? Can it be turned into a gem store cash farm to fund esports?

If not then it is doomed to die and the devs could care less.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

I find it highly unlikely that a dragon egg could help us defeat the dragons…

the egg will be <7 years old… the elder dragons are >1000 years old.

I hope this doesn’t dissolve into another scarlet fiasco with terrible inconsistent plot lines.

I wonder if perhaps they are going down the path that the baby dragon could absorb some of the wild magic released into the world by killing an elder dragon. Additionally, if we as heroes were to raise said baby dragon, it should theoretically be on our side.

That might be workable… not what’s going to happen though. We are going to find the egg, it will have mary sue super powers, and then trahearne will ride it into battle and single handedly defeat mordy.

The sad thing is that this is the SECOND expansion that WoW has launched since GW2 came out… WoW has released more content in a single expansion than the entire game of GW2 contains since launch… and now they are adding 100% more…

It is actually quite embarrassing…

I haven’t played wow in a while since I just don’t have the time anymore. GW2 pretty much releases no content so I can keep up with this game.

I find it highly unlikely that a dragon egg could help us defeat the dragons…

the egg will be <7 years old… the elder dragons are >1000 years old.

I hope this doesn’t dissolve into another scarlet fiasco with terrible inconsistent plot lines.

Everything you asid was right, but…You seem to completely ignore the other side of the coin.

If a farm is too profitable a number of things happen that are bad for the game:

1. creates a split community. The people who participate in the farm quickly gain wealth, while those who don’t are left behind. This leads to a rich get richer, poor get poorer scenario where the community is fractured.

2. Mats become too common, continually falling in price until they eventually hit vendor price. This may seem like a good thing until you realize that the only thing that keeps most people playing the game is having long term goals. If they can suddenly buy every awesome skin they want in one day the game quickly becomes stale and boring and many players leave. This was a major problem in the beginning of the game and is why ascended gear was introduced. Devaluing ascended gear like this farm did is going to end up with a lot of players quitting and they may need to add in a new gear tier to bring them back.

Ayrilana.1396:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Ayrilana.1396:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Ayrilana.1396:

People still did them and made gold. It’ just that people have recently gravitated to broken farms that gave out twice the awards.

The only thing really ‘broken’ is that the majority of chests are at Amber. If they put more chests at the other locations people would spread out more. That’s essentially the biggest gripe I’m seeing here, is that in farming maps, everyone clusters at Amber instead of spreading across the map to defend all 4 points (and the escorts).

Nerfing the rewards into oblivion so no one gives a rats kitten about the map is not the way to fix it. Especially considering mobs don’t really drop loot (read: rarely, not never), and champs not at all. The chests balance that factor.

The thing I see broken is that you can easily replenish all the crests you used for keys from crests in chests and by doing a few events.

I don’t see anything wrong with that myself honestly, but that’s just my view on it.

It’s because you’re getting a ton of loot and not thinking about its impact.

People are happy, mat prices go down, maps are populated, lots of people playing the game.

Yep this farm is terrible! How will we say that the game is dying if the economy improves and people start playing again!?!?!

Err… i’m like 99% certain that you can buy caithe’s blossom from the laurel vendor once you unlock it through the achievements…

locoman.1974:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Tman.6349:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Luimes.4281:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

As soon as glorious PvP armor is available in PvE then sure.

As soon as PvPers can grind the Carapace armor set by afking in a PvE Hotjoin then sure.

I don’t understand your statement. PvE hotjoin? I’m unsure what this is, as far as i’m aware the only way to get glorious armor is to do PvP of some form.

I’m suggesting that if you want PvE exclusive armor you should have to PvE, just like the PvP exclusive armor requires you to engage in PvP.

And he’s saying PvEers don’t really have to PvP to get rewards when they can just afk in Hotjoin matches. Hot join is considered hardly PvP by those who take PvPing seriously. He’s suggesting he should have a similar form of ‘hotjoin pve’ where he can go afk and get those precious rewards by the same means.

He can… just stand in front of amber and tag a single mob every 5 minutes. You’ll have enough crests to buy the armor in like 3 hours. Much faster than you can afk the PvP armor.

He’d still have to do the PvE part, the shoulder box doesn’t show up on the vendor until you’ve finished the living story release.

And I still have to PvP to get the glorious armor. I don’t see a problem.

Carapeice: easy to get PvE only armor
Glorious: easy to get PvP only armor

Lumi: harder to get PvE only armor
Glorious Hero: harder to get PvP only armor

This is the set introduced in direct competition with the new PvP only set. It should remain PvE only until the PvP only armor is also introduced to both game modes.

Tman.6349:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Luimes.4281:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

As soon as glorious PvP armor is available in PvE then sure.

As soon as PvPers can grind the Carapace armor set by afking in a PvE Hotjoin then sure.

I don’t understand your statement. PvE hotjoin? I’m unsure what this is, as far as i’m aware the only way to get glorious armor is to do PvP of some form.

I’m suggesting that if you want PvE exclusive armor you should have to PvE, just like the PvP exclusive armor requires you to engage in PvP.

And he’s saying PvEers don’t really have to PvP to get rewards when they can just afk in Hotjoin matches. Hot join is considered hardly PvP by those who take PvPing seriously. He’s suggesting he should have a similar form of ‘hotjoin pve’ where he can go afk and get those precious rewards by the same means.

He can… just stand in front of amber and tag a single mob every 5 minutes. You’ll have enough crests to buy the armor in like 3 hours. Much faster than you can afk the PvP armor.

Luimes.4281:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

As soon as glorious PvP armor is available in PvE then sure.

As soon as PvPers can grind the Carapace armor set by afking in a PvE Hotjoin then sure.

I don’t understand your statement. PvE hotjoin? I’m unsure what this is, as far as i’m aware the only way to get glorious armor is to do PvP of some form.

I’m suggesting that if you want PvE exclusive armor you should have to PvE, just like the PvP exclusive armor requires you to engage in PvP.

As soon as glorious PvP armor is available in PvE then sure.

Azhure.1857:

Valento.9852:

And it is a level 80 area, nothing wrong with decent loot at all.

“Decent” loot doesn’t hit the economy like it has….
Look… Most of us have enjoyed it but I also believe that most of us recognize that it is also crazy.

Or maybe I’m putting too much faith in the GW2 community in that belief.

Yeah it pretty clearly needs to be nerfed. The problem I have is that people are trying to get it nerfed for reasons that they are just making up. No one is forcing people out of maps or preventing completion of events. No one is being mean in map chat like in previous farming incidents. The only issue here is that the loot is wayyyyyy over the top.

Essence Snow.3194:

Aside from the exo jewelry issue, I’d say that everything here is a good thing.

I’d agree. Not sure what the long term effects will be. I’m assuming it will be nerfed today in some total nuked approach that Anet likes. It will be interesting to see if things bounce right back or are slow to recover.

DiamondMeteor.8345:

Soft wood is up in price due to people crafting Bandit Weapons.

People actually buy them? when you can get the entire set for 5000 karma that seems kind of silly…

Omg Im Target.3095:

Besides that the events can be a bit repetitive has the new map great potential.
But those trains… It’s sad that the maps get abused by those chestfarming which makes the gameplay incredible boring (even worse than the champtrains). I hope you’ll fix this

If you don’t like it then don’t do it?

There are plenty of organized maps in lfg if that’s what you want to do. You don’t see me complaining that organized maps are ruining my fun from farming…

So i’ve noticed that the SW shovel farm has had a pretty significant effect on the economy. I was hoping to compile a list of markets this is improving and destroying.

The biggest effect so far has been:

1.The exotic jewelery market (totally destroyed)
2. Silk market: https://www.gw2tp.com/item/19748-silk-scrap
3. Lodestones are all down
4. T6 mats are tumbling

Things get more interesting when looking at the markets that are going up. I’m not sure what the reasons are though:

https://www.gw2tp.com/item/19713-soft-wood-plank

I have no idea why soft wood logs are skyrocketing in price, but it seems to be connected to this farm.

Anyone seen any other markets effected by the farm? anyone know what is up with soft wood?

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

So… I played SW all weekend, with my husband and one other guildie, and we honestly didn’t see any of the drama that this thread (and a few others) have been complaining about.

We were in one semi-organized map that did really well at holding the forts, but didn’t succeed in the breach event. Which no one had issues with, it was an ‘ok, we can try again next time.’

Got into one completely pug map, no commanders, that did really well – calling out who needed help and were and did succeed in killing all 5 champs during the breach event (the first and only time we’ve succeeded thus far). I managed to kill 3 of the 4 legendaries in that map too.

We were in several other just pug maps that went back and forth on holding, retaking, etc.

In these all of these instances, people went hunting for chests between siege events or as they went along the escort events, but no drama, no issues.

The end of the day yesterday we got into a pure farming map, but that’s what everyone was there for. They did the amber defense events, and the rebuilding events (all successfully) and they killed the amber breach champ (troll i think that one is), and did chest farming between events. No drama, though plenty of hilarious map chat.

Maybe we’re just really super lucky with our maps?

Nope you aren’t lucky. There isn’t any actual drama that I can see after visiting over a dozen maps. I suspect the people complaining couldn’t play this weekend and are upset that they are missing out on this farm. They are trying to make up fake drama to get it nerfed since they are missing out.

LFG provides everyone with a map they want with little need for drama.