No I am not, the lack of modes is what bores me. I have started playing gw2 with my 5 friends, and they all left months ago, since playing the same thing over and over and over again was not considered fun for them. Can’t blame them, barely log in, usually just check the forum. But now went back to counter – strike, also played a bit of PoE (that is still in beta but has more development than gw2 during all the time is was available for major public), even think of selling this game to get my money back, a thing I have only done with the worst purchase in my life D3…
PoE? rofl that game is the definition of a hardcore grind pve tittle, even the competitive play is all about pve lol please dont even compare it with gw2. And also, that game was in beta even before gw2 launched
Now I realize this post might ruffle a few feathers, so just to be clear this is only my opinion. I’m seeing an issue with spvp. It’s not a huge issue, but still kind of annoys me. When a team starts to get behind in points, people start leaving. One player called it rage, I have a few other names for it. Regardless, I think it’s poor sportsmanship and leaves the remaining team-members in a tough spot as few people are inclined to join a losing team. I have seen miraculous comebacks happen, and it makes for a really fun game. Now, it may only be my imagination, but I think this trend has increased with the introduction of the leaderboards. Rankings in the leaderboards are based on win %. If people really care about such things, there’s no way they will stay with a losing team to tough it out.
I suggest a penalty of some sort if you leave a game in progress. Obviously there are legit reasons for leaving a game, such as getting an important phone call or whatever. So I was thinking there should be a time penalty in place, preventing you from immediately jumping into a different match. 5 or 10 minutes or something. I think this may help remedy the issue and provide incentive to do your best everytime.
Now there are occassions when you join a team that is perfoming really poorly and it can be frustrating, but that’s the chance you take if you just join the queue. There are other times when you join a match with only a few people and they turn out to be dueling. In this case you could just stick it out or leave and do something else for a while.
What do you think?
Erm, it seems like you’re talking about hotjoin and you don’t seem to be fully aware of how the system works.
First, only tournament matches count for leaderboard ranking so it doesnt matter if you loose or win in hotjoin(8v8 maps). Ranks on leaderboards are not based in %win, and even if it was, leaving a TOURNAMENT match still makes you loose rank points. In tournaments people still leave when they start loosing, but thats because some of them still think leaving prevents rating loss.
My advice for you is, stop playing hotjoin and start playing tournaments its twice as fun and half as frustrating, plus you can get better gear. Hotjoins will be deleted anyway.
This is what I think they should do:
Separate solo queue ladder from team ladder(two ladders), solo queue matches would be the current 1v1 1 round games and team matches would be the old 8 team 3 round paid tournaments. From here, they should start pvp seasons, with prizes for top % players in each ladder. Also, team ladder rewards should be slightly better than solo queue rewards to prevent people from loosing interest in team play.
The funny thing about all this e sports fuss, is that 90% of the people who cry cry cry for esports wont have their gaming time changed if the game is and esport. Just play the game, who cares if its an esport or not, only a minority benefits from that.
I think you should all learn to play because heartseeker is not even a skill worth using after the haste nerf.
Heartseeker is only the main access to backstab in d/p…
I love people who go “hurr durr lp2” and then say stuff like “heartseeker is not even a skill worth using”. Thanks for the laugh man.
can’t fault players for dropping out of matches because of terrible profession designs, poor match making and being placed on the losing side of ongoing matches.
until there are some serious profession changes, balance improvements and more effective build variety options implemented, most players will not have a fun and meaningful pvp for the sake of pvp experience despite all the fluff and faq.
huh? being placed on the losing side of ongoing matches? Tournament matches start at 0 how can you be placed mid match? Ohhhhh i get it, maybe you should stop hotjoining? You know theres no matchmaking in hotjoin right?
I’m curious now, what professions do you think are so out of balance?
I’m sure devs have, and yesterday gasmask was saying that aswell.
Now, should i believe in the devs of the game and the #1 NA ranked player or the word of two randoms(silverthorne.8576 and celeras.4980) who don’t even show up on the leaderboards?
Sorry but sitting in capture points as a bunker build isn’t what I call player vs player. Thanks
cuz thats all there is to do right rofl
thanks for the post tho, keep on ganking undergeared underleved scrubs, keep it hardcore for the rest of us who cant be hardcore, YOU are on the next level.
rank 100++++? wait, wait, wait, i guess it’s invisible, cause some random bug appeared!
Of course ANet will fix it in, wait two invisible weeks with some invisible DEV’s!
dude dont jump on the troll train cuz its not working for you, they said there would be just 100 players at first, so dont go that way.
i dont really think longer list is essential as long as there will be some place on my profile that says my place in the ladder, like " your are number 9999", i guess this will be faster and easier to implement. but really nice work!
also, question, is rating character specific? not account? it seems like it is with that “character” tab.
Am I the only one who is disappointed that they do not show WvW progression ranks as a leader board? I was under the impression that when they said “WvW Rankings” this is what it meant since we already get WvW rankings every week.
given the fact that its the spvp forums i dont think many will care, although, whats the point of showng wvw ranks? it would be like showing pvp ranks.
Great, nice job!
Just a question, if you’re not logged theres a message at the red bar that says “Log in to view stats based on your profile”, is there an option to see my place in the ladder? I don’t mean the full ladder roster, just the position? like, “you are number 1111”? or just not yet but there will be?
atleast in wow you can line of sight the enemy and dont have to stay on an open field (node)spamming aoes into each other.
you have to chain cc´s properly, interrupt, predict, way more abilities
arena is way more skillful, BUT pillarhumping is annoying, i enjoyed rated bg´s way more
GW2 has (or better, could have) chain cc specs and team roles for it, problem is most of those build suck and can do just that, you could interrupt in this game properly too, the problem is there’s a huge difference in skill animations, stuff like necros epidemic taking a 1 second cast and thief mug beeing absolutely instant(or eles arcane utilities). And that problem is also in wow, you dont play the animations/the game, most top players have some addon that just types in big letter and colors on your screen MAGE IS CASTING POLYMORPH, to me thats not playing the game.
If wow’s pvp is in a better state that gw2’s, it’s not because of the game mechanics, it’s most of all the lack of features in gw and lack of playing incentive.
It’s just anet not think of the consequences of their implementations. It happens patch after patch, they implement stuff(and most time they’re good ideas!) but they can’t think of the consequences of what they do and workarounds to that. Theres no tutorial for beginners, theres no rank requirement to join a match (how can they possibly not have thought of a way to prevent rank 1s in their first match from joining a tournament?), there no way to report leavers (you cant even see who they were because their name disappears from the team list), theres no way to prevent people from swaping chars mid game. Like i said in another post, everything feels amateurish and unfinished. And now, along with the incentive to bring pvers into casual spvp play, they should have figured a way to separate those who just want to finish the 3 games from those who actually give a kitten about winning.
Pug v. Pug.
66 vs 102. What is this? a difference of nearly 36. If you pick and choose, most likely you will see negatives than positives. Not to say matchmarker works.
you won the game, what are you complaining about? your print could actually server as an argument to people saying matchmaking works fine and that rank doesnt actually matter.
this game is just so so unfinished, if I was looking at gw2 for the first time and saw all the amateur flaws of this game (poor matchmaking, no function to report leavers, lack of ladder, the tournaments that were introduced just to be removed 5 months later but that will be back again once they have a clue of what to do with it, the step back with tickets who were one of the good steps forward, etc etc etc etc the list goes on and on) id say its a low budget f2p game, but it definetly is not.
This game is unrewarding in so many ways (pvp wise), most times i win a game it just feels like i won because either the other team had more low ranks, or because they had -1 player, and the same frustration applies to when I win, it never feels that I lost a game because I played better/worse, everything depends on rng from the matchmaking system.
REQUEST! read and comment what you think about that… PLEASE if you like the idea comment a lot so they see and we actually get a chance to get it next month!!!!!! —-—->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Make a WvW Server for pvp!! Like a WvW map dominated by pvp players with pvp items allowed.. You know like Harth of the mists but that is in WvW map…
Wouldn’t that be cool???
people already complai about standin in circles, imagine if anet made us start banging on doors (with circles inside it to stand on)… No thank you.
Dude I don’t understand what you sad bro
in wvw you pend most of your time banging on doors to stand in the circles inside it → i don’t like it → it’s boring.
REQUEST! read and comment what you think about that… PLEASE if you like the idea comment a lot so they see and we actually get a chance to get it next month!!!!!! —-—->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Make a WvW Server for pvp!! Like a WvW map dominated by pvp players with pvp items allowed.. You know like Harth of the mists but that is in WvW map…
Wouldn’t that be cool???
people already complai about standin in circles, imagine if anet made us start banging on doors (with circles inside it to stand on)… No thank you.
The game has zero chance of becoming an esport. Too many titles out that are better in that format.
It reminds me of the WNBA. When people were asked to choose between their local WNBA team winning the championship or receiving $5, like 90% of people picked $5 dollars.
no mmorpg tittle currently can call itself an esport
Yeah I want to avoid Theif, no offense to the thieves but, that’s a face roll class. I never get statisfaction out of playing an OP class that 80% the server plays.
thief is just as faceroll as any other profession and is definetly not op.
if you want to faceroll, play ele and just spam all skills available while changing attunements, it will work at low level play. just remember to do at least one dodge while in water, thats the only situation when you have to stop facerolling.
You can’t have open world pvp in this game with arenanet’s current goal with pve. They want you encourage all the content spread out through every zone, regardless of your level, they want and encourage level 80s to keep going to lower levels zones. How ethical would it be of them if they encouraged higher levels to do lower levels content if they could go and kill any lowbie?
You guys now that Rating got resetted with this patch? Atm everyone is almost on a equal rating, it will take some time till it will work properly… Another problem is that there is just one rating… So high rated soloqueres will probably face high rated premadea (this will be a problem when the rating is in for a month so there actually is a countable rating..)
no it wasnt.
So why are they saying it will take time to collect information to build a ladder, there should allready be enough information?..
they are waiting to see if the system can handle the information trafic etc etc nothing to do with collect information
You guys now that Rating got resetted with this patch? Atm everyone is almost on a equal rating, it will take some time till it will work properly… Another problem is that there is just one rating… So high rated soloqueres will probably face high rated premadea (this will be a problem when the rating is in for a month so there actually is a countable rating..)
Thanks Jon, does that mean you’re giving banners another +20 stats?
how mature…. you may be completely right about how warriors stand right now, but that just makes you look like an immature fool. specially with something that is so ever-changing like classes op/upness in mmos. as far as you know, in 2/3 months from now warriors will be the top dog in the game (and they will ofcourse receive improvements in the future, like all classes in mmos receive from time to time)…
yep it can be pretty frustrating. yesterday i had a series of games just like that, facing full premades of people with 10 to 20 rank levels difference, i even made a mad forum post like you, so i can relate. And yet today, i was in a premade and we had levels 12 to 29, and almost always played people with similar ratings, except one in wich we even played a guy that posts alot in the forums (duke henry or something) who was rank 41 and his team was like rank 8,12,21,24,41.
And what is weird is that you can get matches like this even if the queue pops instantly, so my guess is for some reason the system sometimes just doesnt work and select random people.
tl;dr: its because of situations like yours that i think matchmaking fixes should be top priority, or at least of them.
Any half decent PvP player should not be happy, otherwise he thinks too much of himself.
What you’re saying makes me think you think too much of yourself too.
Yes I’m happy, I’m happy with the overall delivery of the patch: leaderboards, preparation for custom arenas, tweeks to 4v5 situations in tournaments (although matchmaking still needs work).
I understand warrior players are worried but I’m sure devs will be making changes to bring back warriors and appease warrior players asap, revamping the quickness debuffs/buffs, aswell as toning down bunkering.
Please, tweek the matchmaking system asap, i just came from 3 games in a row facing a full premade preceded by games of 3/4 premades, and i really believe that itshould be a priority to separate group from solo queue, how hard can it be? I guarantee you that neither the stomped solos or the premades have fun in this kind of games, and this will make the leaderboards completely flawed.
But thats not the only problem. what kind of matchmaking puts a a rank 50/34/23/9/3 group vs 34/45/23/54/34 group? i think i once had a game i wich there were even rank 1s, and don’t say that “there isnt enough people playing” because most times its insta pop. Its clearly a system flaw. This also leads me to believe that what some dev once said is bs, how the system searches for solo queuers first and only if it cant find does it match you with premades, because, once again, sometimes i get insta pops and face full premades.
tl;dr: i’m sick of getting stomped by premades and beeing paired with teammates that go cap homepoint with 2/3 guys. Make improvements to matchmaking system asap.
In case you were wondering why they didn’t patch in the Revealed debuff being applied no matter how the thief exited stealth (promised in the sotg) and don’t browse the thief forums:
As we played with the stealth changed mentioned in the SotG, we recognized that in conjunction with the change to culling this was an unpredictable change to make. We also felt that it was too big of a hit to these stealth professions, so we ended up pulling that change in favor of just increasing revealed duration by 1 second.
So yeah they took a blatant bug/glitch/exploit (culling) into account while balancing things.
wrong, they took a bugfix int account while balancing things. that change to revealed would just make thieves complete trash.
its might be a huge step, but it will depend on the time they take to expand the list from top 100 players to every player, unless they only want 100 people competing.
overall, yes, i still think warriors will be able to get their burst rotation off and same for thiefs, but while i agree quickness needed tweeks, so do bunkers. maybe make quickness apply some healing/boon debuff?
Does this change warrior really that much?
Warrior relied on baiting out the opponents defensive skills and then punish with knockdown + hb, so they just have to do the same right? If the opponent doesnt have any stunbreaker they will still eat the full hb, right?
“your existing scores will silently be posted to the leaderboards while we watch for the top leaders to stabilize”
Does this mean only top (say top 100) players will get their data posted on these leaderboards? if so, why should i bother playing this game if i have no chance to be in top 100?
or hire more people for the pvp aspect of the game. kitten, they sold over 3 millions copies, I think they can afford to pay someone who is not totally brainless (any reference to Karl “The Legend” Mclain is purely random)
“Don’t criticize what you can’t understand”
How ironic. You know, Karl didn’t become a dev in one of the top game design companies just because of his beautiful ponytail hair. Chances are you have no idea how to right code, how to think on balance changes and it’s impact and you’re precisely criticising what you don’t understand.
I don’t get all this hate on the guy just because he was weird on sotg, maybe he was just nervous and didn’t get his ideas across well enough who knows, but if he’s the one responsible for balance tweeks its because he has the qualifications for it. It’s easy to call someone brainless when all you have to do in this game is enjoy it and go “BOOOO this sucks you brainless” when you don’t like something.
All i’ve been seeing in the forums lately are topics like “ kitten derp this lacks features kitten derp kitten introduce leaderboards and esport stuff kitten derp” and now that they announce leaderboards you still complain? Even before seeing the whole patch? What did you want? Leaderboards custom arenas, spectator mode all in one patch?
Some people are just unbelievable.
And plus, in my opinion, all this pressure from the forums has driven devs away from what is really gamebreaking wich is the uneven numbered matches and the matchmaking issues. with matchmaking working as it is right now, leaderboards wont mean much at mid/low tiers.
whats this video about? You letting yourself die without using heal/ dodge/ heal from dodge?
just another ele that mindlessly circles through attunements spamming all skills available randomly… Im especially fond of the way you stunned yourself with rtl
Me. This game is awesome and i have lots of fun in it, i’m ok with the current balance, combat system is great and thats whats most important. Ladders will be welcome but only as a secondary thing for me.
I usually just spam it while waiting for other skills to come out of cd, so i have it on AA but i still press the button anyway.
I dont think theres really a “right” moment to get the perfect hit cuz you can just keep spaming it.
There maybe be some professions where its worth waiting for the 2nd/3rd hits of the auto attack to apply on hit effects.
Like a WvW map dominated by pvp players with pvp items allowed.. You know like Harth of the mists but that is in WvW map…