No wonder this game mode is dying. Not many good players are left in it. Everyone wants to zerg and take empty objectives..
I don’t want to take empty objectives. I want to have a chance as a smaller force to siege a keep being defended by a larger force who just builds a ton of ACs and sits on them instead of coming out to fight. That’s another reason this game mode is dying: players who don’t want to fight.
There are ways to bring them players out but you must learn it yourself.. Not giving away any of my tactics to people who think this change is good.
You are right though that not many want to fight but look at why.. All the so called fixes make it easier to just zerg and k-train stuff.
I miss the days where you didn’t have to zerg everything. Where people knew how to actually counter siege instead of todays way of building acs outside of gates and walls.. Thing is people are stuck in zerg mode and it makes it not much fun to even wvw anymore..
LOL @ the guy saying gvg’ers defend stuff. I might just +1 that post so when I"m feeling down I can look at that and crack up again..
Sorry I’m frustrated if you can’t tell but this is not a good fix at all
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EoTM is the map for most of you guys. You have all your undefended towers you all seem to want right there in one big k-train map.. If you actually die to acs might want to go back to PVE land or actually learn to play better.
Acs actually help you defend when outnumbered yet once again a patch does the opposite of what it was suppose to do. If you are complaining about taking towers and being rained on by acs that only goes to show me you’d rather PvD empty towers.
No wonder this game mode is dying. Not many good players are left in it. Everyone wants to zerg and take empty objectives..
I am glad ACs are useless now, they are one of the worst parts of WvW
Yep, good riddance.
YAY! Now you can k-train with out being hit with ac fire..
There are a few things that made this event not a good event.
Mobs drop no loot. I repeat NO LOOT. Best events you had in the past all had mobs and champs that actually dropped stuff when you killed them. You couldn’t even get a stack from killing mobs while using stacking sigils during this event.
All rewards were already in game before so whats the point for those that had most if not all of the rewards already. Nothing new was added as a reward as far as I could see and didn’t really want anything in the reward list..
With no loot from mobs there is no incentive to sit at one point. Most ran around and tagged as many events as they could.
Targeting the vines needed a fix. I use tab to pick my targets usually yet it skipped over the vines a zillion times. Some vines were on rocks or something and to even be able to hit it I had to run up to it or face getting obstructed or LoS.
Learn to play thread
This is just stupid.
I mean, BETA Achievements??
We’re playing because of enjoying the game not hunting these kitten stupid achievements.
And Yep I know some mad AE nerd hunter will reply me now with his/her rage of wall,
BRING IT ON!!!1!
Maybe its to test some new achievements or ways you get credited for achievements. Ever think of that? If you’ve played this game you’d know that even achievements can be bugged. Its part of the game so why not include it in a test.
Spending mine in Metal Gear Solid V. So far its going great
Ah yes… The “WvW Ganksquad Finisher”. 2 Thieves and 2 Mesmer appear from nowhere and start kicking the spiked player, followed by jumping up and down for a minute.
Would buy it.
That may push play towards cap and hold a little more, and that’s about it.
I’m pretty sure this is how this game mode was always supposed to be played.
The way the game was meant to be played is based on the assumption that there will always be people who want to hold points because of an intrinsic value, and that coming first on the scoreboard at the end of the week is a primary motivator.
Problem is, we’ve discovered that cap and hold is usually boring, and winning the scoreboard is meaningless… so the way it was meant to be played doesn’t work.
Yes I total hear you. What I see is happening though is people are forgetting that it is or was about holding stuff instead of just zerging and k-training. Not saying everyone zergs but lets face it majority do. If more groups/guilds broke up and actually tried to hold stuff that would split up the zerging.
Splitting up the zerging will make smaller groups come out more and not always have to be worried about the one big map blob. The new map is bigger so running in smaller groups will be more effective. Unless you totally outnumber the other 2 servers (like most lower tiers matches) running in smaller groups is always better if you ask me.
These changes will hopefully make that happen. They probably will not fix the score problem but I don’t see these changes as fix for that anyway. I see these changes as trying to break up the zerg mentality.
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More like he knew you were a condi thief and decided to dance instead of fight you.
currently wvw is based on individuals, not on the world. therefore there’s not organization at all again. and wvw guilds are mintues. it is not you that you have to be in a wvw guild to get credit. any guild run the wvw as if they run guild missions and guild members get credit from it. so it doenst matter if that if pve, pvx or wvw guilds. as long as run the misison in wvw map. See most of these ppl writing on forums admit that they are wvw players. but in the game, not even 10% of playres participate in wvw.
I doubt you even play wvw…
Great, 3 years later.
Better late then never right?
Ahh I’m done here we finally get good news and the grumpy people haven’t changed a bit. Seriously find new games to play already.
Guess you’d still rather have impossible achievements? People have done math before. You’ve been working towards never getting them.
No I would not rather have impossible achievements, I was hoping for achievements to be nerfed to something that was still DIFFICULT to get, and I have been working towards that, sadly it seems they are going to completely gut them and make them a joke though.
Those upset because they passed 2.5k already but really how long did it take them to get 2.5k yaks? I’m at 11,121 yaks killed, 8k+ hours in this game and above 4k rank. If it was 10k yaks that would still have taken me a couple of years to get.
Most achievements in this game are not hard to achieve. Why should wvw ones be any different?
For Heart of Thorns, we are rebalancing the WvW Lifetime achievement requirements to much more reasonable numbers. At the same time we’ll also be updating many of their associated titles.
- We are not changing the Realm Avenger (“Ultimate Dominator”) achievement requirements or title, as some players have actually obtained it and it’s a bit of a status symbol.
- The “Yakslapper” title will remain, but the requirement is being reduced to 2500 yaks.
- As an example title change: “Ultimate Liberator” will become “Kingmaker”
I have 27k dolyaks killed, so yeah thanks for de-valueing all my efforts… I also have 20k camps flipped, which I now suspect you are also going to nerf into casual player territory. It really is disappointing that it took you 3 years to fix the achievement situation and then when you do everyone that has put in any real work towards titles gets a slap in the face….
Guess you’d still rather have impossible achievements? People have done math before. You’ve been working towards never getting them.
and what about orr temple karma armors
Whats orr? Whats temple armor? PVE threads are thata way ->
jk :P
if none of their guilds is a wvw guild, just have to join a wvw guild.
if one prefer not to be part of any guild, then we assume he doesn’t want to participate in wvw either. or as i said they can participate without credit.
LOL might be one of the silliest posts I’ve read in a while. So the countless hours I put in while I was in a casual guild meant I didn’t want to participate in WvW? Yea ok.
WvW guilds are the first ones that pack up their bags and leave servers.. The PvX guilds are the ones that stick around. Not all but speaking from what I’ve seen this happens all the time.
I get no credit because my guild isn’t a wvw guild? Worst idea ever.
Please never make any suggestions ever again.. Thank you very much.
Its called World vs World for a reason. Not guilds vs guilds.
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Wow. The red posts in the wvw thread just keep getting better I can finally clean up my bank space and get my runes back,
That may push play towards cap and hold a little more, and that’s about it.
I’m pretty sure this is how this game mode was always supposed to be played.
It’s a good change if it wasn’t bugged. This is why we get very little changes to this game mode. Some people don’t like any sort of change and seems every time we get a change it comes with bugs.
I’m not against every sort of change, just against unnecessary major ones that force people to overthink stuff that they have been used to for a very long time.
And I do think before causing more trouble by introducing f2p they could have at least fixed some of the old WvW-bugs that have been known for months.
Which bugs have been known for months? Do you know them or just spitting out words you hear everyone say. “been a problem for years”
Anyway latest patch has a fix already for siege.. Hows that for a quick fix.
-Invulnerable dolyaks
GG anet Now I’ll never be able to get the coolest title in this game
Ohh wait..
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Suggestion-WvW-achievements-1/page/6#post5452203
Ahhh haha I’ll be a yakslapper when HoT launches
Who is Angry Joe? Guess I wasn’t brought by him. Game full of angry people so I tend to not associated with people that have angry in their names.. :P
-Invulnerable dolyaks
GG anet Now I’ll never be able to get the coolest title in this game Ohh wait..
Few things on the list were ideas that been floating around the forums in the past.
I know the no player damage to cannons and oil and no player damage to doors were suggested on the forums a while back not sure about the rest.
Also how is roaming dead? Maybe you have a different opinion of roaming than I do but the banners seem good for 5 to 10 man roaming groups to help with fights, and they will be able to defend much better now waiting for reinforcements. If you are talking about 1-5 man roaming I don’t see much that will affect that.
Also the 100 supply drop and the yaks are the other two that I recall people talking about. Maybe not invuln yaks lol but NPC buffs to them has been mentioned a lot.
Roaming will never die if you ask me.
Few things on the list were ideas that been floating around the forums in the past.
We’re aware of and investigating the return of an old issue with siege bundles disappearing while being carried. Thanks for the details provided on where and how this has been encountered.
What of the 20g+ lost for a lot of people in siege that we were unable to use? I’d like to have my siege returned that was lost due to a bug..
From what I saw most people stopped tossing expensive stuff when they realized they vanished. You know they didn’t want to waste 20g in siege..
Also as someone pointed out:
Cmon Anet, at least call the new bug the “yaks bend siege tax” at least then it would be moderately funny.
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You really think either of those builds could kill the other before reset?
When people reset on me in fair 1vs1 I count those as wins.
I understood his “reset” as wvw reset on every Friday…^^
haha oh yea that is what he meant it looks lol
You really think either of those builds could kill the other before reset?
When people reset on me in fair 1vs1 I count those as wins.
Who ever has the least cleanse will die first. You can trait into PU all you want and think you are so OP but if you don’t have cleanse you will end up dead against condi players.
“Free accounts need to be limited to EOTM only”.
How would you feel if you move to a new country were you were restricted from taking the transportion to your destination? Where the only ones who are not restricted from taking the transportation to their destination are the ones who lived there first?
How Would You Feel?
This behavior and attitude to restrict new players from accessing the entir wvw is cruel, in-humane, ruthful, viscous, insensitive, heartless and wicked.
“It is one of the easiest ways to control them trolling WvW”
This is a poor excuse. Did you know that anyone can be a troll? Yes that is correct! including you? Is trolling restricted to new accounts only? Is trolling restricted to new players only? Does a troll wear a big sign that says, “control me, i’m trolling”?
“Restriction to EOTM only will entice them to purchase the game more if they like WvW and want to help their server ‘win’”.
How can you entice new players to purchase the game by treating them this way? How can new players if you want them to help their server win when you treat them this way?
Putting them inside isolated a cage while you are free in a open area? How would you feel if they were the ones doing that to you?
Would You Feel Anything At all?
. If Arena net ever consider your suggestions: this will be GW2 ’Last Memoir’.
" You Can’t Expect Someone To Stay If You’re Only Giving Them Reasons To Leave "
" You Remove Their Right To Fair Treatment And You Expect Them To Feel Special? "
" Nothing Hurts More After Realizing You Were Not Welcomed With Open Arms "
I am not seeing anyone wanting to restrict “new players” from wvw, just F2P players that are already prevented from properly participating in wvvw to be a benefit to the server rather than a burden. New players who can whisper commanders, speak in team chat, donate siege to the server commanders, trade with and speak with other players on their server as needed are plenty welcome. Just do not want a restricted and non committed player taking up a space on the team that could be used by a player who can actually properly participate in the match in progress.
It is like you are taking a space on the baseball field while a game is in progress, but are unable to communicate with your teammates, throw the ball to them, or really play as one of the team. It would be better at that point to just get off the field and let someone who can play take the space, otherwise you are a burden to the team, not a benefit.
Let new players who can actually play properly into wvw, and let the F2P players go to EoTM since they cannot properly work with their team and server. Once they become a committed B2P player without restrictions like everyone else, they are more than welcome to join in the match.
I’m shy so I barely whisper my commanders. New players will most likely toss siege and be called a troll since they are new and do not realize they can donate siege to commanders or its a bad thing to do. Its a learning process. They will only learn to k-train in EoTM. (and possible learn to k-train from some wvw servers :P)
When I first started I just followed a tag around and I didn’t see myself as a burden. I didn’t know the correct terms to call out any towers etc so I mainly just stuck to a tag.. Over time when I played and learned more then I started to be more vocal in chats. With what you are saying I was basically no help to my server since I didn’t really chat much and was mainly learning from what other people were saying until things made sense to me.
If people actually used squads more they could make all the call outs in the squad chat no?
I barely talk in game much as is.. I’m usually too busy trying to kill something. I react more to other peoples call outs than anything.. I’m sorry to my server for being no help since I don’t chat much.
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Meh… hate that change. Always was so easy to just drop a blueprint on the commander’s feet if he quickly needed a treb/ballista/ac for example but couldn’t really explain where to place it… Having to send it per mail slows the whole process down and WvW is a lot about speed.
And I really don’t like that we have to get used to changes because of f2p-people (beta probably isn’t that much of an issue with the release so soon). Shouldn’t be that way.
It’s a good change if it wasn’t bugged. This is why we get very little changes to this game mode. Some people don’t like any sort of change and seems every time we get a change it comes with bugs.
ESO on sale for $40 which is cheaper than xpac for all those that are upset. Go put a couple years into another buy 2 play game that will probably go free faster then this game did. :P
Hearing in chats that people are tossing guild siege such as cata’s and they are being lost instead of being able to be built. Commander tosses 4 and only 1 shows.
Oh that’s an ancient bug. It’s back?
Add a few supply to each as its thrown, don’t throw a new one unless first one has a start of build at least.
Tested with regular rams and it seems to be random. Sometimes when you just double click it from your bags, it equips and vanishes right away in like a spit second.
Watch out guys. I borrowed a time machine from someone who told me HoT is not worth the price and there is a lot of QQ’ing going on. Some dungeon elitist upset they have to buy/craft more gear and can’t zerker only everything. Also content too hard need nerf.
We had 2 events and tournaments. Pretty much every time we had them some people raged, quit, claimed they quit or refuse to buy xpac because of it.
Golem event was a tad too much but I enjoyed the other stuff we’ve had. I didn’t even expect the golem event since I figured they would all be working on HoT.
Hearing in chats that people are tossing guild siege such as cata’s and they are being lost instead of being able to be built. Commander tosses 4 and only 1 shows.
I like it! I see some commanders drop their super rams at times and I try to grab it to send it back before someone else grabs and puts it away or picks it up and just tosses it.
Post doesn’t say anything about guilds though?
Yup. Think he really meant event. If its a guild event I probably wouldn’t be able to do it lol seeing as I recently created a guild and its about 5 of us but I’m only one that isn’t busy atm with real life stuff.
What special guild event?
https://twitter.com/GuildWars2/status/638852037879459844?s=09
I’m not sure when this is happening though but I would guess this is what OP is talking about.
Since they are making a salvage kit for ascended we should at least get a kit for wvw gear.. Even if it costs badges to buy the kit and it just gives me back the runes I’d be happy.
You can farm game gold and turn that into gems so you never have to spend real money if you do not want to.. It is your choice.
It’s not a change of perception. Anet thinks EotM is WvW. So it makes sense to provide them a rationalized reason as to why doing this makes sense and is a good idea for them, while really, we just want the freeloaders to not kitten up our WvW more than it already is.
Anet knows the difference. They even stated that EoTM will not be counted towards WvW population because it is not the same WvW experience.
Then Anet should also know that not being able to properly work with a team in wvw being able to use team chat, whisper commanders, donate siege to the server commanders and work with the tag is also not providing the same wvw experience and takes up a place on the map that could be better used by someone who can properly participate in the match in progress. It is a burden to the server, not a benefit to have players who are unable to properly work with their server on their server maps taking up space that could be used by someone who can.
EoTM is the future of wvw. It is their testing grounds for wvw and until they put something else in there to test, that is what we can expect to see. WvW players hating it is beside the point of what it actually is supposed to be.
If the free accounts can actually make it to lvl 60 with all the restrictions they have then they should be able to enter wvw.. I’ve already talked to a few new players. They have said this game is fun but the restrictions suck. They will most likely upgrade before even reaching level 60 is the way I see it. Anet wants them to buy the game not play the free version forever.
Up until not too long ago, you used to run the risk of dying simply by running down a slope, even without actually falling.
Can’t tell you how many times I died just running down stairs in some WvW towers LOL
Will agree that there are tons of mesmers out there.. Part that sucks about it is those that have played it a long time now fall into the category that we are only playing them because its easy mode.
It took me a few tries to actually like my mesmer. When I first started I felt too squishy, could never pull off a win in anything besides a 1vs1 and even then I had trouble. I even gave it up but went back to it and tried different gear stats and builds till I found some combo that worked for me. I’m still experimenting builds to this day.
I don’t like to really diss anyone’s skills because the skill level in this game varies so much. I’m far from being the best at anything but I definitely will put out a good fight and go out with a bang if I have to.. I don’t see that much from many people. Most would rather run than die only to come back with 2 or 3 more.
I like the challenge of being semi outnumbered in fights. I’ve had awesome 1vs1 but now a days it seems everyone just zergs so its even hard to get fun 1vs1. People play burst builds and try to burst you down and when they can’t they run away. Most people you run into 1vs1 are really trying to run to their zergs. At least that’s what I seem to find.
Now about the 1vs3 thing. Of course if I was up against 3 evenly skilled players I would not stand a chance. It is a lot easier to pull off with mesmer since we can have lots of stealth an clones. Once you find the weakest target and focus them the others usually blow some cool downs trying to save him. Even when I lose in outnumbered fights, if I down one guy or even get 2 below 50% I feel satisfied.
I don’t really like to boost, brag or anything like that but I’ve been killing lots of mesmers on mine since the changes and I’ve been trying out a bunch of different builds yet get same results.
I actually do really well also on my d/d ele in outnumbered fights but then again people say that is easy mode as well LOL.
Sorry for the wall of text but seems to be a nice discussion going on right now
You are really overthinking this guys.
1. Spy makes free account.
2. Spy gets some levels and goes to WvW. This isnt a very time intensive thing, even with the new level 60 gate.
3. Spy gets verified in your server’s teamspeak.He doesnt need to sit on the map or mess with your stuff, he can just hang out with a second TS open and listen to the commander talk. And ANet cant touch him because TS is outside the scope of the game.
TS isn’t part of the game so its up to the people to admin them better if they are worrying about spies.
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Thats the deal with bonuses, you go out of your way (pre-purchase), they go out of their way (give you bonuses).
And that’s my problem. A character slot is required in order to access the new profession. It should not be considered a “bonus”.
I have absolutely no problem with them giving extra stuff to people willing to pre-purchase. But when they try to withhold something that should be a standard component of any expansion pack that features a new playable profession and try to pass it off like it’s some wonderful “extra”, I have a problem with that.
They could have given away a thousand extra bonuses and I would have been fine with that. But a character slot is something that I expect to receive when I pay for an expansion that features a new profession. And again, I’m not asking for a “free” character slot. If I’m paying fifty bucks, it should be included in that price.
exactly. a character slot is not a bonus, it is required in order to play a major part of the expac. existing character slots were part of the core game; they have been paid for.
You still had to buy extra character slots to play every profession unless you deleted and recreated.
If more people saw revenant as a major part of this expansion there would be less people complaining about the price.
It is just a profession. Don’t even have to play one or make one if you do not like.
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If you got what was advertised when you bought the game, you were not cheated. It’s that simple!
well we did not? How about the countless promises of:
- dueling incomming after the game’s release
- extra classes will come in after the game’s release
- living story is our way of doing expansions, we won’t do real expansions ever. Buy the game once, enjoy forever!
- you’ll be able to do a scavenger hunt for precursors (expansion locked now)
- we’ll add more things to do for guilds (expansion locked now)
- legendary armour is incoming! (expansion locked now)
- ascended items will be gotten only from fractals and useful only in fractals (makes sense as to why I had to grind EVERYTHING ELSE to get gear whose main purpose is to slot in agony resistance for fractals)
- no extra gear tiers! (Except that ascended stuff that we put in later)
- we’ll never do raids!
- we’ll never go F2P!
- SAB will return! (that was said around 2 years ago. Where is it then?)There were so so so many lies told. Then half the promises are repeated for the expansion pack and for that one they are already saying “this will come later, after release!”, how much are we going to bet that that “after release” will turn into “it’s a feature in the next expansion!”.
And to all of those saying “oh, but you got season 2 LS for free!”. Anyone that couldn’t log in that half a year didn’t. There are plenty of veterans that didn’t.
I doubt they promised anything. Things change over time. If they kept going the same route this game may no longer even be around..
You can duel your friends all you want in custom pvp arenas.. I see no point in adding a dueling feature.
Game doesn’t even have classes.. It has professions.
Living story was just not enough to keep players in this game.. Players are what pushed for the expansion.
You can do just as well in exotic gear as you can in ascended gear. I run around in wvw on my alts all using exotics and can kill so many people so gear tier isn’t the same as other games where if you didn’t have a certain piece of gear you would not be as effective.
Players wanted raids
Restricted free to play accounts missed out on a lot of game content. What they meant was you will never have to pay a sub fee.
SAB – ok you have a point there.
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What I want to know is, where were all these posts claiming I was ripped off/cheated/conned/etc when the game went for sale at $10 seven months or so ago? Why weren’t you at least 83% as outraged that someone new paid $10 and you paid $60 back then?
Because they still had to pay for the game and the exp. pack.
People like myself who have been here since Day 1 supporting ArenaNet had to put down 60$+ for the core game and now another 60$+ for HoT (I paid 100$) while people just playing today pay 60$ and get all the same content I get for less than half the price.
I personally don’t care, but I’m guessing that’s the argument.
“Why are they equal to us when we’ve been here longer and paid more money?”
They do not get all the same content you got.. How many times do people have to point this out to people on these forums..
I’m starting to think people have killed way too many brain cells over there time to even think of saying something like this.
And I think fanboys need to stop being so emotionally involved with this game, they attack like rabid flesh eating dogs when someone points anything slightly negative about it.
It’s cool when you act like that when it’s about your Mother – when it’s about a game, you just look ridiculous.
Hey if you want to look like a complete brain dead person keep saying that new players get the same game for free that you had to pay for yet have been playing it for years and got 40 free content updates that new free players didn’t get.
We are just trying to show you that you got more but you are so thick headed it doesn’t sink in for you..
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What I want to know is, where were all these posts claiming I was ripped off/cheated/conned/etc when the game went for sale at $10 seven months or so ago? Why weren’t you at least 83% as outraged that someone new paid $10 and you paid $60 back then?
Because they still had to pay for the game and the exp. pack.
People like myself who have been here since Day 1 supporting ArenaNet had to put down 60$+ for the core game and now another 60$+ for HoT (I paid 100$) while people just playing today pay 60$ and get all the same content I get for less than half the price.
I personally don’t care, but I’m guessing that’s the argument.
“Why are they equal to us when we’ve been here longer and paid more money?”
They do not get all the same content you got.. How many times do people have to point this out to people on these forums..
I’m starting to think people have killed way too many brain cells over their time to even think of saying something like this.