I can tell you the lower population servers won’t be buying an expansion. If the expansion is needed for WvW the people will leave.
Speak for yourself not other servers.. First off what do you consider lower population servers? If I listened to everybody that cried about dead servers and low population then I would assume everything outside of tier 1 and tier 2 is a low population server.. My server is currently tier 5, we will probably go down a tier and I will be buying the expansion.
Don’t buy the expansion and if the expansion is needed for WvW YOU will leave or have to buy the expansion to play the new content.. Let me guess you also go around and post and complain that nothing ever gets changed in WvW? Either way I think you will buy it because you seem to still be interested in this game since you still post here.. If you are happy with the same content then don’t buy it..
WvW needs to abandon the idea of “servers” and allow players and guilds to join the action in a flexible way that prevents barren maps (as megaserver now prevents in PvE, to great success), and allows guilds/friends to play with each other.
Every time some one claims megaserver is better I’ll say to some it wasn’t and many have left because of megaserver.. Megaserver is pretty much blob world bosses and new content until you get put on a bad map and have to get taxi’ed to a better map. Some maps still are quite empty and also guilds get split a lot and have to taxi in other guild members. Sounds like its so much better now, half my guild on a different map then me.. You no longer hear servers claiming first kills on so and so content now but you here “map ip 156, first to kill so and so”.. LA used to be the spot to call for help in wvw when it was needed.. That is pretty much gone now with megaserver.
So megaserver was not great success. WvW turns into megaserver will be the end of this mode for many. Megaserver in WvW is pretty much EoTM right now.. You want all four maps to be like EoTM? please no
I remember a time where there was much more dev interaction in these parts. I guess the toxicity however made them pull back.
and there lack of presence creates even more toxicity. instead of removing themselves from interaction, they couldve hired someone with thicker skin to interact with players. and then actually use that feedback to improve the game. (not that forum goers are a good representative).
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why doesn’t any MMO company actually survey their customer base?
I’m starting to see why they don’t have a presence much anymore on these forums.. From someone who is a hardcore wvw’er all I have to say is most of you guys complaining is why this game mode doesn’t get many updates.. Lots of ideas from forum users are totally out of this world and if they listened to everyone, this game mode would be long gone and dead..
Seriously wait till it is released before you all jump in and say its another EoTM map.
When EoTM was first introduced it was sort of fun, We had massive fights, players defended stuff etc etc. Players and the fact that there is no community(server identity) in EoTM is what turned it into a k-train. Map chats are full of trolls and backseat commanders.. Scores have no impact so why even defend?
EoTM was a place for people to have some sort of competitive fights while waiting for those long queues to pop up.. Anet let everyone into EoTM so it has turned into what it is by the players.. Want to fix WvW population? Get rid of players being able to go into EoTM if they have no maps queued.. Put back EoTM for only those servers that have high queues since that was what it was basically created for..
If players keep saying it will be another EoTM map well sorry to say you are the ones that will turn it into an EoTM map..
People keep asking for deathmatch and gvg. You all do realise this isn’t gw1 where we had the Trinity which included healers. It all sounds good on paper but in reality it’s awful
You obivously have no idea what you are talking about.
The GvG scene is massive in both the EU and NA, and it is open field 20 vs. 20 and it works perfectly fine.
If it works perfectly then why are people still talking about not having a GvG game mode or a spot dedicated to GvG’ing ?
chuck is there anything you say that I can reply on that you won’t delete so my replies don’t get deleted?
Anyway you made it perfectly clear why anet has to do something else besides living stories when you stated a large population only log in when a new living story comes out.. Players need more then just this living story and the only way to do that was to make an expansion. Like others have pointed out you got about 40 living world updates for free!!! Its just not keeping the player base around anymore so I’m all for this expansion if it brings out more players and pushes for more challenging content.
I appreciate that you are interested in finding out more of what will be in the new map, but we didn’t show anything about it in the trailer that could lead you to the conclusions here. We’ll be talking about it a lot more and showing it off soon. At the least I’d hope you can reserve judgement until then.
Tell you why I for one think it sounds like another EOTM, the wording of the announcement: “Navigate treacherous heights with traps that blow your foes to the depths below and ferocious defenders to help keep the enemy at bay. Map objectives will be more important than ever before, as they’ll unlock new strategies, tactics, and play mechanics that you’ll want to use to your world’s advantage!”
Sounds like EOTM to me.
Wait what? People use siege in EoTM? Besides rams and scorpions? They play EoTM for new strategies, tactics and play mechanics?? Players defend stuff in EoTM?
EoTM was fun when it first came out because it was massive fights. Something I’ve never really experienced being on a lower tier server outside of 3-ways in SM lords room. That is all long and gone and is pretty much a k-train map now. For that reason I hate it.
Actually normal WvW is becoming stale since players seem to like to run around, PvD until a zerg shows up and then they run for the hills and don’t even put up a fight..
So I’m excited for this new map.. Maybe it will change the way WvW is being played and what WvW has become.. Maybe it will introduce new tactics and strategies instead of the Blobbitty blob blob everything.. Maybe not but I think it is too early to even make a judgement at this point..
Hmm there are some good questions here.. Won’t this paid expansion split up the players who buy it and those that don’t. Basically what is going to happen to WvW now for those that don’t purchase the new expansion? Do they still get access to the new map or is it just for those that buy the expansion?
Also forgot they fixed the getting stuck on building site bugs.. Added siege names to the build sites to prevent troll siege from being built. Slimmed down ram build sites. Ohh and siege disablers
I’m not buying an xpac so it doesn’t matter to me. I refuse to reward Anet with more of my money after seeing how bad a job they did with it the first time around in GW2.
Heck I’d buy an expansion to GW1 before I’d buy one for GW2.
Do you still play gw2? If so then I guess its not as BAD as you say it is. If not, you sure still hang around here on the forums waiting for something big to happen.. Show me another MMO that is better then gw2 right now.. Without a paid sub fee
I still think the sollution is to rank the guilds and dish them out on every reset
What do you mean by rank the guilds? What happens to people like me that are in casual guilds? A guild with over 400+ members yet a handful of us wvw? I’d be stuck in crappy match ups cause my guild doesn’t rank high enough??
Just ignore OP. According to his past post history he has been crying about WvW being empty for 4 months now.. When you start to point out that he is just full of it he switches the subject to PVE and megaserver and claims the game is so much better now.
He is comparing WvW from release up until now.. Of course WvW is not going to be as much populated as when the game was first released. I highly doubt that any T1 server has 3 empty maps with 5 players all on one map.. Which he stated is how it is on TC.
He claims he bought this game because of wvw and the large fights but most of his past posts have been about PVP and not about WVW.
wait.. what… T1 is dead? Time to start transferring to lower tiers to help balance the matches some more. This has to be a joke..
Megaserver is better?? Megaserver is just blob world bosses now much like how you want WvW to be yet that already exists and is called EoTM. I know several players from my guild that have left ever since megaserver was introduced. That’s one guild on one server so I’m sure my guild and server is not the only one to lose players because of megaserver.. Yes some things might be better with megaserver but not everyone sees it as being better.
WvW is only reason why I’m still around and if it becomes anything like EoTM well that will be the end for me..
What xpac? For all we know its just over hyped for the new living season.. Until its official I’d rather not get my hopes up and comment on what I’d like to see..
Does every idea/feature that anet has, have to be approved first by the people on these forums?
I noticed it too and I think it sounds neat… Just like they changed the cannon sounds a while back to the current ones we have now. Bet you never even noticed the cannon change or you probably would’ve made a thread about who asked for that as well..
Cross-Server chat, a feature WvW players would want, but will go ignored by anet to make PPK a permanent feature.
Players is a big word there. Few of you guys want this while others don’t want to be constantly harassed in-game. It already happens as it is and allowing cross talk will break this game mode even more… I’d quit if wvw chat turned into pvp chats
Just give the option to block all whispers from the enemy server for the people too scared of talking to people.
Just go to pvp if you want to trash talk with friends.. Otherwise leave it the way it is. Has nothing to do with being scared to talk.. 99% of whispers are hate whispers. My block list is 99% gold sellers.. Its annoying enough to block them when they spam me, Having enemies spam me will just make my block list grow even more and waste my play time blocking people.
Every time I switch my weapons my finisher goes back to the default finisher..
Every time I change my dyes my finisher goes back to the default finisher..
Every time I change my miniature my finisher goes back to the default finisher..
Is this a bug or is this the way it was designed? If this is the way it was designed I would like my gems refunded for all the finishers I’ve purchased.
I don’t remember to (and shouldn’t have to) reset my finisher every time I switch weapons, pick a new mini or change my dyes but it is really getting annoying seeing that default flag.
Mango, you’re discussing with a GoM ppt hero… You’re not getting anything from him since his server got a much better coverage and is climbing up rather easy… Wait until he hit the wagonbrand wall (which you are facing now) and see if his little speech will remain the same.
Only people who are in servers that been winning lately are saying the changes are good, like Ehmry Bay, Gate of Madness and Kaineng.
LOL jeknar. You know me as a roamer. PPT is just another part of this game. Should I mention that the current match up I’m in now is close in score and any server can still take the win?? I bet if swords were in play GoM would have a bigger lead then what we currently have now so saying that only the servers that are winning have the advantage is just a bunch of bull.
ET is a k-train server that plays for 3 hours out of the day. GoM has its groups spread across 4 maps while every other server we face piles up in one ball and zergs maps.. if they broke from the zerg they would have a better chance taking us down.. They don’t break from their zerg though and that’s the problem.. Has nothing to do with swords
ioj does lack scouts and roamers.. In a previous post I stated that even before this white sword thing I solo/duo’ed a few towers from ioj with white swords in play.. I did this during NA time zone. It was about constantly tapping your stuff till you just gave up checking on the white swords and eventually your tower was mine.
Now that I think about it your south towers in your BL no one ever came to check on the swords. Another guildie and I took some fortified towers because no one ever came to see what was popping them white swords..
Blame it on swords if you want but I’m telling you it doesn’t matter..
I’m not sure why you think your singular experience over the course of one week is good evidence for our alleged lack of scouts. Not that that’s not even relevant. A number of players from other servers have posted similar complaints as well.
It wasn’t a singular experience.. It was something I did each and everyday cause I knew no one would come and check on the swords after a certain amount of time. It all starts with camps and constantly tapping things to drive you guys crazy looking for me. When you give up and just assume that “it is prob the same guy tapping” is when I made my move and your tower was mine.
Also I had plenty of fights in camps etc etc while going around tapping stuff. It wasn’t like I was on an empty map. Some stopped me from taking towers so I can’t say every time I came out on top. I’m telling you from what I’ve seen you lack scouts even when swords were in play. Take it as you please. Adapt to the changes for now as its only a TEST.
Anyway we are off point from the OP. You can take what I said as a bunch of bull-skritt or you can see it as swords won’t make a difference when you lack scouts in the first place..
ioj does lack scouts and roamers.. In a previous post I stated that even before this white sword thing I solo/duo’ed a few towers from ioj with white swords in play.. I did this during NA time zone. It was about constantly tapping your stuff till you just gave up checking on the white swords and eventually your tower was mine.
Now that I think about it your south towers in your BL no one ever came to check on the swords. Another guildie and I took some fortified towers because no one ever came to see what was popping them white swords..
Blame it on swords if you want but I’m telling you it doesn’t matter..
My current match up is a lot closer score wise then it has been before the swords were removed.. By now usually you can already tell who is going to win the rest of the week just by the current scores.. Not so much now as any of the 3 servers can still win it.
Also why should EU guys have to be the ones to do the boring upgrading? Sounds to me you guys are relying on them to do all your upgrading. Maybe get better scouts and people walking yaks etc etc when EU isn’t in play. If my server didn’t do any upgrading outside of a certain time zone then I guess I too would complain and blame it on the white swords and overlook the fact that we lack scouts and roamers.
White swords won’t help you when you are outnumbered.
Not true. Being outnumbered doesn’t mean you are powerless. 5 guys can repel 30 if they are prepared and play well with the sieges they have.
Yes you are correct but you see the problem here? 5 guys are defending 30 guys when those 30 guys could split into 3 groups of 10 and take more then one objective.. If that happens being outnumbered, swords or not it won’t matter much. That is what I was trying to point out. It has nothing to do with 5 guys defending against 30.. People are stuck in “It takes a zerg to take anything” which is why most of the servers are having problems with white swords while those servers that spread their numbers don’t have the problem as much.
The only thing this change does it make everyone more offense focused. NO ONE wants to just sit in towers all day long. That is boring. It has also killed the concept of a roaming scout, or someone who escorts dolyaks. A T3 can now be capped quickly with no notice.
Essentially, this change is great for anyone who wants WvW to turn into EotM. It is horrible for anyone who wants a bit more strategy.
No one is saying sit in a tower all day. If that’s your definition of scouting then sorry to say you are doing it wrong. As for someone who roams, scouts and walk yaks I can say that not much has changed as I never relied on white swords anyway cause most of them were players tapping a gate. Scouting is finding the enemy before they hit an objective.. Not after swords pop you go and scout it out.. That is not scouting
Killed the concept of roaming? Nah I don’t think so. I see more smaller groups trying to take things which brings out more smaller fights..
If this test event just brought out more K-Training on your server, well sorry to say but sounds to me your server is just a K-Train server to begin with. Sounds to me your server lacks decent roamers and scouters.
Let me guess.. Before this change you all stack on a commander and run around taking things while reacting to white swords on the map? Now with no white swords your stuff gets constantly flipped? YUP K-train server. Break out of your zerg for once..
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Erm, no not really… I is on IOJ in [DOLO], and before the change we were only using white swords for fights… As for stacking on a commander… LOL, what commanders haha
Well we fought IoJ the week before this no white sword thing and I can tell you I solo/duo’ed a few of your towers when swords were in play. I did it to bring out fights which never came.. Like I said lack of scouts and roamers as far as I can see.
So there’s no use upgrading because they walls are not strong enough to hold against 5 guild catapults before reinforcements arrive.
I understand what you are saying but not upgrading at all just gives them K-trainers an easier tower to take and basically just giving them what they want.
I’m doing my scout thing. I come by our T2 – soon to be T3 – tower when I see 40+ enemies in front of it. I say … “Houston …” when the response team arrives, the tower has fallen
Also what you have stated happened to me a million times even when swords were in play. Does it happen more now? Maybe but it happens to the enemies just as much.
but if you only have like 4-5 people on the map its a lot harder to scout everything simultaneously.
Yes I agree it is harder to scout everything but honestly 4 – 5 people on a map isn’t going to stop a karma train if that’s what the other server brings to your 4 – 5 players.
I like your suggestion though. Outnumbered buff should help more then just give us wxp, exp, mf and no armor repairs.
EDIT: Also if you are outnumbered you should be defending. You should have scouts around that will see attacks coming before the white swords appear. People relied on white swords to do the jobs of scouters and roamers and are now finding that they lack scouters and roamers..
If your server has dedicated small groups, roamers and scouts then removal of white swords shouldn’t be a big problem. You do realize that the other team has no white swords as well? You should be focusing on keeping the other teams off your side of the map.
Think the problem here is with the swords most servers thought they had excellent scouts and roamers.. Now with white swords gone they are finding out that they actually lack scouts and roamers because everyone is off k-training a map somewhere.
I’ve found more smaller groups trying to take things which brought out more smaller fights. If your definition of scouting are standing in a tower you are doing it wrong. If your server is greatly outnumbered swords or not it doesn’t matter.
I’m smart enough to know that if no one sees me I can solo recap a tower after the k-train takes it. Been doing it way before this test event.
If this test event just brought out more K-Training on your server, well sorry to say but sounds to me your server is just a K-Train server to begin with. Sounds to me your server lacks decent roamers and scouters.
Let me guess.. Before this change you all stack on a commander and run around taking things while reacting to white swords on the map? Now with no white swords your stuff gets constantly flipped? YUP K-train server. Break out of your zerg for once..
Its a test event not a change. If you leave because of a TEST event well then EXPECT NO CHANGES ever to be made to WvW.
It bugged on me half way through. Only way to fix was to log out of game and restart it. Luckily for me it didn’t happen again.
Just tried that, didn’t work as I apparently am unable to abandon this LS quest, it just instantly restarts.
Sorry what I meant was I had same problem as OP. Only way to get out of instance was to log off and back on my character. I had to redo the entire instance again and it didn’t bug on me the second time.
Seriously Anet it is like you are going backwards and breaking the game with every patch. I watched the ready up about the pvp changes and they mentioned new UI’s . They were so proud of them.. What’s there to be proud of? The older score UI was 10 times better IMO.
The new one is ugly, has HUGE fonts for the names of the characters and lots of wasted space and takes up more room on the screen then the old one.. Looks like trash with all the wasted space all over the place.
I guess I was expecting some newer graphics instead of something someone could have made in paintshop.. 2 Thumbs down on the new UI’s
EDIT: I guess I should of made my post more clear. Its more about the score UI. It seriously looks like it was done so fast, last minute change type of deal, just to be ready for the patch. The other UI’s are nice but this one is just not good compared to the others that were made
Match prompt started and I entered the match. Timer gets down to 58 seconds till match starts and my pc crashes. I reboot as fast as my pc could and log back into the game. I re-enter the match and we are down around 100 points. I jumped right into the game and we actually made a comeback and took the win. (shout out to teams that don’t give up in 4vs5)
Hope that in this future update I won’t be penalized and receive dishonor for things that were out of my control.
Still having the lag issues. Her is a video of the lag. I don’t know what kind of patching/updating anet is doing behind the scenes but it is only affecting WvW for me. I ran through todays new living stories with no problems and now I’m in PvP cause no lag there as well.. Please check that hamster that is running the wvw servers..
For the past two weeks the lag has really started to pick up. Pretty much wvw is almost unplayable and not fun at all for me at the moment. It is also only in WvW as if I leave wvw and go to PVE or PVP I get no lag spikes or disconnects.
It doesn’t matter which wvw map I choose it still happens. I lose all my abilities to swap weapons and/or use my skills yet I can dodge forever till I DC. Sad thing is the npc’s and other players can still attack me and I can’t do anything except die.
Almost happens in every single fight against other players. I either get huge lag spikes that cause me to end up in down state or I try to swap weapons and it takes 5 – 10 secs to even swap if that even happens at all.
Also I’m on gate of madness server and I’m not the only person to experience this problem. Like I said it is only in WvW. Not PVP or PVE.
