Not everybody speaks the same language in EU, so just quit with this bullkitten and move on to better systems trying to fix WvW.
With all the talk about this alliance crap I feared it was coming until you mentioned this. How exactly would this so called alliance work for EU? I don’t think I’d want to alliance with people that didn’t speak the same language as me. How would I know where to go if I don’t understand what they are saying? lol
Idk, guys I think world rank 842 is experienced enough to make a judgment on wvw…
Not if you got all those ranks in EoTM and seeing how you want to turn WvW into EoTM I think you got the majority of your rank in EoTM. Maybe you just want more maps for your EoTM game mode that you so seem to love? Is that what you really want? Not happy with 1 k-train map so want to turn every map into k-train maps?
You don’t even have to answer any of my questions. I already know the answer to them just by what you have been posting.
Or you can do something productive like learn the maps.
And? If I want to learn empty maps, I’d go to TD. At least, I’d get loot from random events there.
Maybe your server is just dead.. I got loot last night in the fights I had in the new BL. I even did the dino pve event and there were 10+ players from each server there fighting for it.
Maybe you’re right. NA T4 is full of pvdoor heroes. But it was different before HoT. A lot different.
I spent my evening in our BL just to find a group of 6 and 3 or 4 solo roamers. Still better than a couple of days ago when I only found 1 necro across the 3 maps. At least EB is still active but I see less and less queues.
A month ago, guilds were AJing each others in front of our Bay. Now, it’s just dead.
I hear you. What you said was the same thing I was seeing even before HoT dropped. If numbers are still dropping players may be moving up to the top. I recently moved myself and so far I have seen people in chat say they came from t2, t3, t6 and t7. I’m sure other players from other tiers have moved as well. Main reason I moved was I needed a change because I was on the verge of leaving.
You do realize that eotm is the testing ground for wvw right?
You do realize that most of the people that play EoTM are uplevels, would rather run around capping stuff and they actually complain when they get engaged and killed by another group. You really want to turn WvW into this?
yesterday in my PVE guild chat this was said: I hate when EoTM turns into zerg vs zerg fights.
Then players who enjoy EotM need to ask ANet to fix this issue with the Mega/Faction system being used there.
Just pointing out that alliances will not fix population problems. How are we placed in an alliance? Can we transfer alliances? You know how people complain about server stacking? I see people just stacking on the alliance that wins the most.. If we are randomly put into an alliance we lose the communities that we have built..
Megaserver/Faction is already working in EotM…so minimal development required.
If you call working green always being the most populated faction then yes it is working. There have been posts in the past complaining about OG always winning and always having more players.. I don’t think anyone wants to play on red in EoTM.
There is already a megaserver WvW map. It’s called Edge of the Mists. I’m quite happy for other people to go play there if they want to – I’ve even been there a couple of times myself…
BUT
I like playing in a small group that can make a difference and where personal skill matters more in a fight than sheer numbers.
I like roaming and upgrading things.
I enjoy solo or party scouting.
I want to be able to choose a map that will allow me to do the things I enjoy. I have EotM for k-train, EB for big fights, and I used to have home borderlands for small group work. See, there used to be something to suit all play styles.
If I wanted to be on a server that queues for WvW then I would have transferred to a higher tier one. Indeed, now they are all open I have another chance to do so – but I don’t want to.
I will not presume to tell anyone else on this forum how they should play WvW. Stop trying to force me to fit into what you want.
Let me keep my choices.
Good post.
Right now with every server being open, people can just transfer and get the massive players that they seem to want to force onto everyone. I’ve been around a long time and most of that was in top of bronze. I lived for the small scale fights and solo roaming but as time went by I found myself not playing as much as I used to.
I took it upon myself to move recently just to see what it is like at the top and it is pretty much what people are pushing for with this whole alliance/EoTM talk. I log in at 9am to battle swords on the map and that continues pretty much all day with maybe 1 or 2 hours of down time..
Right now I’m having some fun I’m not going to lie. I was losing interest in this game and just transferring to something new for a change has brought wvw life back into me. Not sure how long I will last up here as I loved to solo roam and well t1 just isn’t the place for solo roaming. hehe
Almost nobody wants these maps in a wvw setting, and that’s clear by current participation numbers. Essentially they are “pretty” and useless maps for player vs player content. Nobody who enjoys eotm is going to like these maps, so no, the devs are not going to pawn them off now knowing they are clearly not wanted.
Look at all these nobodies playing on this new empty map..
I’m ranked 1,763 & have to say I got these ranks 90% from capping camps…the other 10% from running with a zerg to cap towers or keeps.
There’s a ton of other players that have earned their rank in EotM…and easily out rank me.
Rank just says you earned a lot of WXP.
No disrespect, but just trying to give folks perspective.
If you earned your ranks capping in WvW…I salute you.
Just noticed ANet updated the WvW Titles…Yak Slapper among the first I noticed.
Rank = time IMO but as you pointed out with EoTM it kind of ruined that. Just like pvp rank means nothing to some people because a lot of people farmed skyhammer to rank up.
I took these SS back in July when someone called me an EoTM nub :P I really wish anet would have kept the lifetime number of captures for everything
I want to kill other server players.. Not alliance with them. Most hate me anyways after trolling the forums so why would I want to fight next to any of them :P
Alliances will just bring every server troll and backseat commanders together on one map. I can see it now. Map chat would be pretty much equal to the toxic chat that happens now in pvp.
Sorry but I’m against any form of alliance because I’ve seen so many people come to my server, realize we don’t play the same way they do and they turn around to trash talk us.
Keep pushing for alliances.. It will just become EoTM.
Or you can do something productive like learn the maps.
And? If I want to learn empty maps, I’d go to TD. At least, I’d get loot from random events there.
Maybe your server is just dead.. I got loot last night in the fights I had in the new BL. I even did the dino pve event and there were 10+ players from each server there fighting for it.
The new map is actually amazing when you give it a chance, the fights you can get there are really varied. It just needs a better waypoint system and a minimum of 100 players on it.
Exactly population is the problem not the maps (for the most part). Anet needs to come up with a better way to incentivize people to come out and play. I mean even before the new BL maps were introduced the Alpine BL maps were pretty deserted in tier 1 NA outside of reset, and people seem to forget that.
You are so out of touch with the current situation that is not even funny. Right now, boderlands are deserted simply because nobody likes the new maps. Now, 1 month prior to the expansion, the boderlands were becoming empty simply beacuse everyone was doing other things and just waiting for the expansion. Simply put, everybody didnt wanna put time into something that was supposed to make wvw better when it came out. I personally was invited to the beta and knew it would be really bad. And if you think im speaking about myself, me, my guild and my entire tier felt the same. So before you come here and speak nonsense that might make the devs thing that there is nothing wrong with the new bls, get into teamspeak and learn what your server things about all that crap in the new bls. For every player that like the new bls, you will find 20 that absolutely hate them. Go to the thread were people were supposed to say that they like the new maps and you will see what I am talking about.
New BL is good designed… but not for WvW. It has some features that killing WvW. Its too big and complicated to be a WvW map, its almost impossible to find fights. It has too much PvE, gimmicks, chokes and other stuff those really bad for WvV. Should have been more simple. If i want to do PvE i can go PvE maps instead of doing PvE in WvW mode. And simply, in reality people didnt like them and almost no one playing on BLs anymore, people just stick EB all day long. Check borderlands except prime time, you will not find anyone playing. Map can be beautiful but it doesnt mean its good for WvW. Sadly WvW players and and some guilds already quiting game day by day and if this will stay like this WvW will be completely dead in max 2-3 months despite its big potential.
You sure speak for everyone a lot. Where do you hold your meetings so you can speak for me too? Every time you toss out the word “nobody” or “everyone” it makes you wrong.. Think about that next time you decide to talk for the entire wvw community. k thx bye
Doesn’t take an hour to run across the map.. Maybe learn the map and get shrines to get 40% speed buff first before making excuses. Sometimes I think people just make stuff up and actually never even gave this map a try or gave up after the first attempt. I just started to play on this map. Its not too bad besides not many fights happen there. That’s due to players refusing to go there though. I did have to transfer though but at least now people are playing on the maps.
Funny people still use the words “nobody” and “everyone” just because they choose to not do something they think “everyone” else does the same thing.
Funny that you presume to know how much I know about the new map.
Wow… “Its not too bad besides not many fights happen there. That’s due to players refusing to go there though”
So the new WvW map is not bad except for the lack of WvWing going on? Brilliant
I’ve learned enough of the new map to know it’s not really set up for much beyond nice to look at. If offers very little in the way of strategic benefit. It’s confusing even for those who play it a good deal. We’ve had commanders needing to take time to stop and check the map to make sure they are actually traveling the right way. the amount of time needed to navigate the entire map would depend on how many towers/keeps you are trying to defend so I suppose an hour is not an extreme amount of time if you are forced to stop a number of times trying to figure out where the breach is and repair it. oh wait unless i learn the map and get that speed boost…smh
learn to quote before learning the map.
Funny that you presume nobody plays on these maps.
Or you can do something productive like learn the maps.
Shut up honestly. Its because of bad players like you that loves to talk but never really played wvw that in the end made us get kitten makes like the desert boderlands. I really don’t have any patient with tha kind of stuff anymore. For anyone who played the old maps decently and put some effort in the new ones, it is very clear how better in every aspect the old ones are. It is not even a matter of opinion.
LOL 9k hours 4.6k rank.. who doesn’t play wvw? if you have more hours than me and out rank me then I will shut up. Till then suck it up and learn the maps or just refuse to go there like a lot of people are doing and help kill the game mode.. k thx bye
there is no advantage to defenders if you are on other than your own map. Which is why BL’s are so dead. Nobody wants to run for an hour around a map that is mostly empty only to arrive and find that three people were able to take a keep while you tried to navigate your own keep to get to where it was damaged. Sich stay off my thread.
Doesn’t take an hour to run across the map.. Maybe learn the map and get shrines to get 40% speed buff first before making excuses. Sometimes I think people just make stuff up and actually never even gave this map a try or gave up after the first attempt. I just started to play on this map. Its not too bad besides not many fights happen there. That’s due to players refusing to go there though. I did have to transfer though but at least now people are playing on the maps.
Funny people still use the words “nobody” and “everyone” just because they choose to not do something they think “everyone” else does the same thing.
I honestly have no idea why you have to select a server at creation. It is pointless. You shouldn’t have to do it until you go into wvw for the first time. Give people a chance to make friends and then select.
Then you come to find out all the friends you made are all on different servers because in pve there is no servers.. Then you’ll have to transfer to play with the friends you just made.
Found this in another thread, apparently the idea of WvW playing itself is catching on.
Just a thought for discussion.
Replace what would have been players in an empty map with respective npcs (until it reaches the player cap of that map), that is organized and constantly fight to capture and hold key strategic areas, in a perpetual conflict that would (without intervention) result in a balance equilibrium or equal points to each team. When a player does log on, they will randomly replace an npc. If enough players log on, then all the npcs will be replaced. Depending on the numbers of npcs remaining on map, their roles may change as well. Imagine the forever epic feel of logging on a map to find fights always happening!
Now a privileged player (one with commander tag or some other ability or prerequisite) could influence npcs and give them instructions and focus. So in theory, even if only one human player plays on a server in tier 8, for a few hours a day, could make a difference to their server if they make good decisions to manage the npcs.
In another scenario, imagine a lesser populated server paired off against a larger populated one. It may give a cunning player a fighting chance if the player could instruct the npcs to attempt to capture points all over the map forcing the larger group to commit players to defend.
commander: eyes on keep?
player: checking
player: npc blob at watergate
commander: our npcs going to go help or should we wp back?
player: our npcs got 1 pushed
commander: where is siegerazor when you need him..
player: siegerazor is out there roaming. last saw him in dredge.
commander: EVERYONE WP. KEEP NOW
player: too late I think. npcs built omegas
commander: lets move maps. not fighting that npc blob with our numbers
Not really. First you claimed you play on a lower tier server, can’t find any tags and only fight 1vs5 and 1vs10. Then you turn around and say you don’t want to run a 15 man guild group into a 100 man blob. Things do not add up with what you are saying..
You have the option to transfer like everyone else has but it seems you do not want to fork over money or farm pve for gold to transfer so you’d rather turn it into EoTM.
Lots of people, mostly when outnumbered, saw wp’s in their keeps as bad things.. There was no way they would ever get the keep back when the zerg just had to wait out a timer and spam wp before it expired.
Lost count of how many times things like that happened. You login to everything upgraded by the enemies. You form a small party to try to take it back only to bust down outter gate/wall and have the zerg waiting for you inside because all they did was spam the wp.
Not many people on these forums ever had anything nice to say about this guy. I’m sure if they announced it you would only get cheers and claps from a lot of players.
I got this error about seven times on two different accounts, even typing out the password in notepad and copy+pasting it just be sure. Eventually, this error was replaced with
Same issue for me. Was in wvw and all the sudden got some login server error and got kicked.
from gw2 twitter posted 12 mins ago:
We don’t have an ETA for the servers going back online. Rest assured we’ve got the best crew working on this! Thanks for your patience ^SL
Potoni Masher achievement is broken.. Killed this guy several times already and I never get credit.. As you can see in SS I opened the chest after killing him yet never get the achievement or the mastery point.
I don’t get why they put mastery points behind them. I’m basically done with my incomplete masteries since there is no way I’m getting gold in some of the adventures. They also put them behind jumping puzzles and getting every achievement from the story. All things I will never do so I guess I’m done with my character progression since it is locked behind silly things like JP, adventures or redoing the story a zillion times for achievements that will most likely bug and I won’t get credit..
Of course some incentives could help draw guilds/people to the borderlands and would be welcome. How nice would it be having a new armor skin and weapon that can be bought through tokens that only drop in borderlands?
Not really nice when the only people that would go there is to get the armor skin and then go back to other game modes..
Pretty sure all the current changes and the new map came from threads like these.
Anyway what I’d like to see is mobs attacking objectives in the new BL since players refuse to go to them. Might as well throw hordes of mobs at stuff to make the map playable. If players do not want to change, adapt, learn new tactics might as well turn it into Silverwastes and be done with it.
id moove to t8 for the old borderland maps and mechanics…
I’d drop T2 like hot rock and move to any lower server for that.
Sure you would.. You guys realize that even up in t6 the bl’s were mostly empty until prime time if that or reset night. Only time we went there was when we wiped groups in EBG and they decided to go to our empty BL to try to take something.
Only time we actually went to an enemies BL was when they ninja’ed something in our bl so to get them back we did the same thing.. :P
I spent 90% of my play time in the alpine bl. There was always roaming fights, and there was often huge fights over wp’ed keeps that could go on for hours.
Depends on when you play.. I solo roamed bls for hours without seeing a single person. I got tired of taking camps with no one to stop me so I built trebs for keeps. That’s when people showed up.. Thing is though when people show up they leave other maps. Haven’t had a couple hour fights over anything in over a year.. Them days are long gone
I had one the week before HoT dropped, we even had a few 3 way fights that week over bl keeps.
Also, the prep work I would do on keeps would give me small scale fights for hours.
Yea, gotta agree I used to do lots of upgrading and that is where a lot of my fights came from. Just seemed to me when the release date for HoT came out people took breaks and never came back.
id moove to t8 for the old borderland maps and mechanics…
I’d drop T2 like hot rock and move to any lower server for that.
Sure you would.. You guys realize that even up in t6 the bl’s were mostly empty until prime time if that or reset night. Only time we went there was when we wiped groups in EBG and they decided to go to our empty BL to try to take something.
Only time we actually went to an enemies BL was when they ninja’ed something in our bl so to get them back we did the same thing.. :P
I spent 90% of my play time in the alpine bl. There was always roaming fights, and there was often huge fights over wp’ed keeps that could go on for hours.
Depends on when you play. Outside of prime time they were dead. I solo roamed bls for hours without seeing a single person. I got tired of taking camps with no one to stop me so I built trebs for keeps. That’s when people showed up.. Thing is though when people show up they leave other maps. Haven’t had a couple hour fights over anything in over a year.. Them days are long gone
id moove to t8 for the old borderland maps and mechanics…
I’d drop T2 like hot rock and move to any lower server for that.
Sure you would.. You guys realize that even up in t6 the bl’s were mostly empty until prime time if that or reset night. Only time we went there was when we wiped groups in EBG and they decided to go to our empty BL to try to take something.
Only time we actually went to an enemies BL was when they ninja’ed something in our bl so to get them back we did the same thing.. :P
More people do pve then they claim. I’m sure anet has numbers and sometimes I wish they would just release the info to show you all that probably 0.000000000000000001% only wvw so you can all stop posting this video over and over again.
Most people don’t claim to “only” do WvW, plenty of “WvW players” however do claim that is what they play the game for, and what they spend most of their time doing, that video just has a very disingenuous answer from the Anet guy, she asked about participation rates, which is not the same thing as players exclusively playing one mode.
Guess you missed the first time this video got posted and all the “I only wvw” players chimed in.
People wonder why devs don’t post here. This thread is perfect example as to why. Everything they say will be re-posted in a number of threads, made into little meme’s/videos and people will never let what they say go.
You can deny it all you want but for as long as I’ve been playing, when new pve stuff comes out wvw is a ghost town. Every living story update left only those that actually wvw in wvw and I can say that was maybe 5 people on the server I was on.
More people do pve then they claim. I’m sure anet has numbers and sometimes I wish they would just release the info to show you all that probably 0.000000000000000001% only wvw so you can all stop posting this video over and over again.
I’m still waiting for all the f2p account spies to take over wvw and populate the maps.. When f2p was announced people said it was the end of wvw because 1000 of spies would impact the scores.
:P
I mean… easy fix (theoretically) – take F2P out of WvW. Make them pay for such (previously) epic content! Or let them only go into Edge of the Mists. One or the other.
The point was it didn’t happen yet the rage in the forums about f2p did happen.
I’m still waiting for all the f2p account spies to take over wvw and populate the maps.. When f2p was announced people said it was the end of wvw because 1000 of spies would impact the scores.
Should remove nodes altogether. If you want to mine, chop trees or pick flowers go to pve
Eh, I disagree. I’d really like to not be required to pve to get mats for making wvw food, gear, and upgrading the guild halls (though, still have to pve for the latter anyway. T_T)
I get enough mats out of heavy loot bags and salvaging crap. It was fine when they were spread all over the map but now we take something and everyone mines away. Even seen commanders telling people to mine the nodes after each cap.. What a waste of time these are..
I’ve still yet to get back into wvw after HoT launched. I want to do some of the better events in dragons stand map but seems every time I go there the map is just as empty as the new BL’s
So yes there are people that are in pve land. I mean out of my 9k I’d say 7k+ is all wvw everyday all day sometimes for years on end.. I need a break.
Plus all the QQ’ing going on in this forums isn’t helping me get back into it..
Enh…can’t be too upset about something that is entirely optional. To me, they’re like playing Candy Crush or some other mindless game. I can’t be bothered, so I don’t worry about it.
Yea well when they put a mastery point behind them it may not be optional.. I dunno yet, there may be enough points out there to unlock everything. All I know is I was low on points and when I checked achievements to get more points, most were getting gold or redoing story to get them from achievements there.
I’ve yet to do the event till the end.. Like others the map seems to be empty until 1 hour passes then people try to complete it. I’ve joined right after map closes and get same results.
I’m pretty much out of mastery HoT points atm.. You see I hate that anet has locked them behind certain things such as getting gold in adventures or repeating your story over and over again to hopefully complete the achievement which half the time bugs and I get no credit..
Everyone knows what the definition of insanity is and all HoT is doing for me is driving me insane right now.
