Guild Wars 2

Morwath.9817:

choovanski.5462:

Morwath.9817:

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Morwath.9817:

All we need is toughness reducing condi damage.

Then what counters high Toughness?

CC and focused fire?
Especially since we lack high toughness and high vitality amulet, with exception of trollish Sentinel, which has no healing power or serious damage source.

no. CC does not counter armour, neither does power based damage. power based damage is actually countered by armour. the counter to toughness is obviously conditions, as they ignore armour.

also, you forgot about soldiers amulet.

Soldier and Sentinel got basicaly same stats… they are both rarely played in competitive matches.

And Power damage isn’t countered by Toughness at all, its just a bit less effective but not countered… you still can focus fire on high toughness targets with some co-ordinated CCs and they are melted in seconds.

soldier amulet gets loads of play. soldiers reaper and engineer are still very common. both builds are significantly more tanky than that it marauders counterparts, without having that much more health. you notice high armour.

toughness does more than you think. obviously everyone will die to focus fire and stunlock, but in 2v2, 1v1 etc it can make a good deal of difference.

using an unlockable CC when they have the crystal shield up usually gets you the win. they are normally low as hell and you can kill them while they are reeling from the interrupt.

Morwath.9817:

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Morwath.9817:

All we need is toughness reducing condi damage.

Then what counters high Toughness?

CC and focused fire?
Especially since we lack high toughness and high vitality amulet, with exception of trollish Sentinel, which has no healing power or serious damage source.

no. CC does not counter armour, neither does power based damage. power based damage is actually countered by armour. the counter to toughness is obviously conditions, as they ignore armour.

also, you forgot about soldiers amulet.

all you salty soloqueuers should form a salty solo queue premade. there are absolutely enough of you to do so.

accept the limitations of your build

accept the limitations of solo que teams

it’s like rolling a die every time.
will it pull them?
will it pull them half way?
will it pull them then teleport them back?
will it just make them fall over?

I know it’s been like this for 3+ years, but it’s still frustrating. I’ve had so many fights that could have been won easily if the pull was more reliable. magnet should be a high impact skill, but often it just bugs out

magnet is a frequently used, and almost essential part of engineer’s PvP kit. it’s shameful that anet has left pulls so broken for so long.

for shame anet. for shame.

qqmore.net has invaluable tips for pvp.

it’s a steep learning curve at first, but keep at it.

foste.3098:

sephiroth.4217:

Elite: A select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society.

We paid for “Elite” specializations. Of course they are better, otherwise they wouldn’t be called “Elite”.

How many times must this be said for it to get through peoples thick skulls, elite specializations are NOT suppose to be better than the core ones despite the name. The game director Colin J. said it himself, they are suppose to give lasses different play styles that they could not get before (guardian with a viable long range weapon, engineer with a viable melee weapon ect).

By your logic the next expansion should bring in super elite specializations that will make the elite specializations obsolete and so on for every new expansion.

This whole mess could have been avoided if they called thees things something like ‘focused specializations or ’narrow specializations’ or ‘many stupid people thing this is suppose to always be slotted in every build specialization’ ,anything other than elite.

seems like further expansions will add more elite specs.
it also seems like they should be in a way better, as you can only take one elite. of course with only one elite now that seems irrelevant, but in the future that will be important.

regardless, for the two professions i play i dont feel elite specs are mandatory.
warrior is awful regardless of if you take berserker or not. s/d/d is absolutely competitive with berserker, if not superior.
in regard to engineer, scrapper is great but not for every build. power & cele builds will love the hammer, but for condi it’s a bad weapon. admittedly condi isn’t played much in pvp, but its still excellent for wvw roaming & shreks revs. still, the old nade builds still work well. scrapper is a good choice, but not essential imo. soldiers rifle is still very playable.

NiloyBardhan.9170:

gricks.1897:

Berzerker/Warrior – This is the biggest one I see the Elite Spec being better than the base warrior, as it really seems to be, both from facing and playing.

I disagree 100%. Strength/Defense/Discipline Rampage warrior will wreck any Berserker provided the players are more or less equally skilled. Just take Signet of might and run rampage, berserker will fall before it can get to T3 adrenaline level.

This also highlights a major problem with the warrior regarding the class’ sustainability. 4 sec of endure pain on a 60 CD isn’t gonna help with the constant burst of some classes (or rather elite specs).

its best just not to play warrior

seriously play any other class

it’s not even that much money. I’ve spent more out drinking

just get over yourself & buy it if you want it.

charr has excellent hammer animations. hammer 3 is so brutal.

you don’t have to choose tho, i have a female norn & a male charr & a tree man. all 80 all geared. I’m into the variety.

remember when they said mending would become a physical skill but they just nerfed it to cure less condis?

yeah, don’t expect love from anet

Cat Has Ducks.1982:

I prefer the rabbit finisher myself.

nothing beats the mad king function gyro combo

literally has ‘ha ha ha’ floating over their corpse

Airanthus.4592:

why is it that many people both who write guides and the pro-players in the Tournament use Celestial Amulet? it gives a small bonus to everything but nothing you can specialize on

you can use boons to buff damage. cele makes great hybrid damage bruiser builds. that’s why people use it.

online.1278:

From warrior’s view, everything is op as kitten. DH as well.

I feel like i am playing against each Dark Souls’s boss. In total 5 bosses as kitten.

weirdly I found that m/sh hybrid berserker is nuts vs necros. only because they have no stunbreaks and are slow AF.

otherwise, dude just reroll.

ReaperJr.5967:

StickerHappy.8052:

ReaperJr.5967:

StickerHappy.8052:

ReaperJr.5967:

UmbraNoctis.1907:

ReaperJr.5967:

What? Are you on crack? High stability uptime? The only stability you get on shiro glint is 1 stack of stab on dodge. And that lasts like what, a second? I wouldnt even bother addressing your other points since they dont even make sense in a 5v5.

2 1/2 – 2 2/3 seconds stab on dodge and if they take Enhanced Bulwark it is 5 seconds.
Of course you don’t respond to my other points. I would do the same if my arguments consist of false claims. Like this “one second of stab”.

ReaperJr.5967:

If the rev knows what he’s doing he will pop glint heal before you hit him with high damage? Are revs psychics now? They can read your mind? If he successfully does that, it means you got read like a book and outplayed. Nothing to do with glint heal being op.

Shiro heal is pathetic, i wont even bother talking about it. Lmao i dont even main revenant and its extremely easy to counter for me.

He can see my animations. You know, those things that should give you a chance for counterplay. Which is totally fine. Glint heal hasn’t such an animation. Or he just sits in fields. You can’t tell already placed fields to stop dealing dmg because the rev used his heal.

Shiro heal isn’t bad. Low casttime, decent healing over time, free extra dmg. Little counterplay …

Btw, i never wrote, revenant is op.

You’re implying rev is op. Stability is a stack. Per dodge. How many dodges does each rev get? That’s right, 2. Its not that hard to do math. Who even uses enhanced bulwark?!

With regards to animation, that also means you got outplayed. Saved his heal for the big inc burst? Gj rev. Im curious though, what kind of animation are you talking about again? Specifically? You can easily tell when glint heal is gonna pop, watch the status bar. Its not rocket science. I get the feeling you’re just bad.

Sitting in fields. LOL. Is warrior op too then? We have a heal skill similar to glint, we just gotta sit in fields to heal. Worst argument ive heard.

Btw, if you actually knew how to set up your burst while he is in shiro instead of glint.. maybe you wouldnt complain about the heals.

If you didnt know, Defiant stance has a cast time, Glint heal does not, Therefore you can interrupt defiant stance while you can’t with infused light.

How can this be a worst argument you have ever heard.? Clearly there is a difference between these two.

Glint heal you or may not attack him but 90% of the time in a team fight you will still get some hits while it is active, your team might hit the rev too.

In short.. Instant skills = no counterplay.

Whether you can interrupt it or not is irrelevant to the statement that glint heal is op because you can stand in fields and heal. Defiant stance can do that as well. I’m all for glint heal nerfs but arguments like that are stupid.

Why is it irrelevant? If you can successfully interrupt a heal, that is a big advantage to you.

This the reason why heals that have no cast time or barely or heals that cannot be interrupted, are super strong (withdraw, shelter, i.e)

The reason why glint is OP is because you can basically time your heal in the middle of a burst since its instant.

Because he justified it by saying you can heal in fields. Oh my god, is logic that hard to comprehend? K let me break it down simply for you.

Statement implication: glint heal is op partly because you can use it to heal in pulsing damage aoe.

My argument: that justification is ridiculous because defiant stance can do that too.

Could glint heal be viewed as op because of instant cast? Maybe. Is the fact that it is instant cast relevant to the argument that it is partly op because you can use it to heal in pulsing damage fields?. No.

wow. if you cannot understand why infuse light being instant cast is important you are a fool. if someone stunlocks and bursts you, guess what bud? you can actually use infuse light to heal off the burst. warrior can’t activate defiant stance when stunned, and it can be interrupted. if you can’t understand why that makes infuse light essential, and defiant stance not viable idk what more to say.

thieves have been QQing about ranger taunt so long I’d have thought yall would have realised this instantly.

I’m kinda used to it now lol.

it cracks me up.

1v1s with TS so you get feedback are stupid useful. especially if you have a pool of people of different skill level and different mains to fight.

I’ve helped train a lot of people with this method.

thunderclap has a red ring. it’s kind of hard to see, but it’s there.
I’ve had to use it to tell my thunderclaps from the enemies multiple times.

SoE? I have no idea.

zapv.8051:

vangedas.7358:

Every meta is the worst meta. At least according to forums.

The most factually accurate statement in this thread.

the forum always hates the meta.

im unsure if im enjoying this meta or the shoutbow meta better. i think perhaps my old engi was more fun than scrapper, & bunk warriors golden age was such a nice time to be a warrior, so i might have to say shoutbow was the best but its not a hard distinction.

don’t ask Irenio, that dolt signed off on the shredder gyro

PierPiero.9142:

Greyjoy.5167:

Hello, i made a build for Engineer and i’d like you to rate it
I know Healing Turret is theoretically the best healing spell but i just love dat gyro instant cast.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFASncoClchtbBWXBEqilJjieuz79Oc7SmwS8ZKgAA-TJxHwADuAAAeAAi2foYZAA

I’d swap invention for tools. CD reduction on toolkit is really strong and then you can have speedy kit for moving and prybar often. Also the vigor is not that bad even if i think you miss damage in anycase. With firearm infact you have more damage through IP and condition from range with eg… it is an heavy loss

keep inventions. the sustain and mobility from that line is super worth for cele.

Kharr.5746:

I can help solve your disco floor problem right now. Turn post processing off and turn shaders to low in the graphics options. This game is one of those cases where turning graphics to high/ultra will actually make you blind from all the sparkles on the battlefield.

effect LOD helps a lot too. only need to go down to medium for shaders I think, but post processing has to go.

a capture control RPG will always end up with a lot of sustain builds in the meta, it’s just the nature of the gamemode.

if you swap B for S and the sneak gyro for Mortar its basically what I’ve been running. I’ve tested all three of the heals (AED no thanks) and they all bring different things to the table. the TB for the gyro is nice, nicer than the HT TB, but the boons on H are rally useful. it’s hard to choose tbh.

function gyro is love
function gyro is life

these are the moments I live for

www.twitch.tv/narcarsis

Caed has a pair of solid builds on his twitch and a bunch of gameplay. I saw him in a tournament recently and that staff is niceee. thief I’d unforgiving, but can be very strong if you play it well.

you know the character model display options?

having those for particle effects would be excellent.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

choovanski.5462:

y’all keep on forgetting they don’t care about current matchmaking because its about to be replaced by leagues. complaining at this point in time just makes you look like an idiot.

why would anet fix a system that is just about to be phased out? they wouldn’t, so save your complaing for leagues.

if that is the case, could they remove match making and make it totally random all together?

i really miss the 30 seconds queues back in gw1 random arena.

30 seconds queue.
10 seconds warm up time before the match starts.
4 v 4 annihilation mode

eh, I only play in premades so idgaf about random arenas. playing a team game solo is just stupid and robs you of so much of the experience.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFASlcThSuY7Ww+KQ7FLTGFdcn3/d42lMhl4zUABAA-TJRIwAAuAABeAAg2fYYZAA

build requires a lot of combos and kit rotation. I did a lot of testing though, and its for sure the best scrapper build I’ve found. sustain is insane if you play it well. hit me up if you’re on NA. I’m getting home from work soon, so I can teach you tricks in TS if ya feel ya need em. build is baller tho, so much better than the meta build for scrapper.

play a better engineer build and practice the class more. reaper is sooooo doable on scrapper.

I can beat them 1v1 with cele scrapper Ez Peez

y’all keep on forgetting they don’t care about current matchmaking because its about to be replaced by leagues. complaining at this point in time just makes you look like an idiot.

why would anet fix a system that is just about to be phased out? they wouldn’t, so save your complaing for leagues.

XxsdgxX.8109:

The amount of crying by players being killed to more skilled ones is colossal. This subforum should really just be closed cause I fear ANET will keep listening to that plague.

I feel like the turret engi nerf taught the forum that emotional QQ from idiots gets results.

avergae gw2 PvP player does not even know about combo fields. balancing for people that scrubby is just insane.

Novuake.2691:

This post hurt my brain.
If you think having no cast time on traps that CC and are unblockable and essentially allow you to spam, you REALLY need to rethink how logical you really are.

only test of faith is unblockable (and you have to walk thru the ring of swords). daze doesn’t stop you from dodgerolling.

I can keep track of it, and I adore my cyber pal-

however, the icon should return also. there was no reason to remove it in the first place.

lorddarkflare.9186:

coglin.1867:

lorddarkflare.9186:

Allie.4925:

Do you have to use kit swapping? No.

Do you have to use kit swapping if you want to be on par with every other class? Yes.

If you want to avoid it, I suggest you make a revenant and keep to it.

This is incorrect. To be on par with other classes, you need to Camp a Kit and your main weapon.

Rifle + Grenades for example.

If you want to exceed the other classes, you needs to start cycling through additional kits.

This is incorrect. Camping in a kit is no more optimal then camping in your original weapon set.

Used the term incorrectly.

Meant to suggest that a weapon kit and weapon could be used in tandem similar to how other classes use 2 weapons.

you don’t need to. cycling through multiple kits is much better. mortar 5 > Egun 4 > rocket charge is an excellent combo that uses two skills from different kits and one weapon skill. using kits, your weapon and the toolbelt as a collection of skills instead of separate weapons is a much better way to play.

other classes have the weapons separate and gated behind cooldowns. engineer can use it’s weapon and all of its kits and one singular tool, not just two tools that work in tandem.

wow don’t tell everyone about this secret. I’ve been abusing this bug mercilessly and I don’t want it nerfed!!

I play this class to kit swap. less than two kits is just not enough skills for me.

been running 3kit with scrapper and its super strong, and super fun.
kit’s are such fun, and are so strong and varried. the playstyle of a kit engineer is my favourite thing in this game. sure, it took a while to get used to it- but I would never go back.

I always feel bad for the warriors I kill :-(

after DH is nerfed the forums will find the true source of all OP power – the almighty

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Allie.4925:

choovanski.5462:

I don’t think all of the specialisations were built for raids. scrapper seems like a spvp focused specialisation to me, as does DH.

I have no issue with still playing regular engineer, and I don’t mind if it’s better than scrapper for pve DPS. scrapper is focused on personal sustain and brings that to pve builds that want it. the extra block and evades/tripple leap finisher make hammer worthwhile for any game mode.

So, in other words you have no issue with the complete standstill we’re at right now, where the engineer hasn’t evolved or changed at all for, what, three years?

We’re still running the kitten builds that started becoming popular in the freaking beta, back in early 2012. Why? Because it’s all we can do in order to keep up.

Yes, there’s been some polish, some fixes, but otherwise there’s not been any change at all.

Sure, we can do lots on our own in sPvP, but heck, my auto-attack chain crits for 2500, while my bloody revenant does the same for 5000, all the while stun-locking everything in her path.

I run a large variety of engineer builds in wvw and PvP, both with and without scrapper. I always run kits, and to be honest I don’t enjoy playing builds with less than two kits. that doesn’t stop me having variety and fun with my builds. static discharge, p/s condi, flamethrower, cele bombs, and now cele hammer. there are so many good builds out there, and now we have a new weapon and traitline- both of which are great.

it’s better to be an engineer than ever before. if you don’t feel like a bright young God on scrapper you need to change your build. it can go toe to toe with anything.

sure, pve DPS rotation builds are boring, but DPS rotation pve is boring so what do you expect?

Kolly.9872:

SlayerSixx.5763:

^im no warrior main, but a moving 100b sounds terrifying.

If that happens , I want a moving Pistol Whip

if rev can have unrelenting assault I can’t see why you shouldn’t

Doon.2364:

SlayerSixx.5763:

^im no warrior main, but a moving 100b sounds terrifying.

You mean like Rapid fire?

or, unrelenting assault

Doon.2364:

choovanski.5462:

yeah, those warrior buffs are sorely needed.

revert Rampage and Vigorous Shouts nerfs, baseline fast hands, you know what to do anet.

Don’t forget revert Adrenaline nerfed. Considering how strong other classes has become i think if they revert Adrenaline nerfed, warrior will be back in contention.

we need adrenaline when attacked baseline too, plus a lot of animations (hammer esp) need to be sped up. 100b should be mobile too.

yeah, those warrior buffs are sorely needed.

revert Rampage and Vigorous Shouts nerfs, baseline fast hands, you know what to do anet.

ah yes, another ‘good player’ brought crying to the forums by heartseeker spam.

everything is great apart from warrior provided the player is good.

every other class has builds that rock in the right hands, the problem is finding those hands.

I don’t think all of the specialisations were built for raids. scrapper seems like a spvp focused specialisation to me, as does DH.

I have no issue with still playing regular engineer, and I don’t mind if it’s better than scrapper for pve DPS. scrapper is focused on personal sustain and brings that to pve builds that want it. the extra block and evades/tripple leap finisher make hammer worthwhile for any game mode.