Guild Wars 2

Dartanian.9623:

deathTouch.9706:

I’m assuming you’re in the process of uploading your vids of this next-level, overwhelmingly-dominant tpvp warrior play?

Hmm..have never done that and not particularly interested in divulging details.

Seems legit.

Zenyoga.6910:

If you haven’t given this build a little go, you should it can beat any class 1v1 minus bunker staff ele and offers plenty of team fight options.

rolls eyes

I’m assuming you’re in the process of uploading your vids of this next-level, overwhelmingly-dominant tpvp warrior play?

Dedlaw.9130:

deathTouch.9706:

1) Your opinion on whether it is potentially profitable or not is irrelevant. What does matter are the intentions of the publishers of the show and potential investors. If people are offered money to do something that they would otherwise be doing for free, they choose money.

Ironic, since your opinion on what it could be is irrelevant to what it is.

What it is, is volunteers working together with Anet to give a fan-service for sPvP players. What you think they could or should do is your opinion, and I see no need for them to change their target audience nor their content just because you think they should

Don’t like their content? Do it better yourself.
Don’t like their topic? Do it better yourself.
Don’t want to do it yourself? Pipe the kitten down

Your assumptions on the motives and/or intentions driving the volunteers and/or Anet for doing this is just that – assumptions.

The alternative is to not watch the show. If enough people say they want pve/wvw content then maybe they’ll (those actually in charge of production-level decisions) take matters into their own hands and do it rather than try and find some people with too much time on their hands to do the work for them.

You’re acting like you need some sort of pve/wvw guru to figure out whats currently important to players in the game when a 1 hour search in general discussion/wvw threads would suffice. This isn’t exactly conceptually difficult work.

I really don’t want it to proc in situations where I don’t need it.

I’d rather risk getting spiked down than having it proc after the first 2 autoattacks hit me in a fight.

Warrior players have become masters in the art of running away because we’ve had to do it for so many months in a row during pvp.

Gab Superstar.4059:

deathTouch.9706:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Also, lol. How many posts will it take for this guy ^ to understand the meaning of “volunteer”? Bets can be mailed to me in-game.

deathTouch.9706:

Current profitability of the model does not equate to potential future profitability of the model. It’s like you think they’re not aspiring to become popular to the point that their model is profitable or something, or that they’re doing it for the good of the community at the expense of their own lives. No, they’re doing it because in part they likely get personal satisfaction out of making the productions, and also because they hope it becomes popular enough to the point where they can obtain sponsorship and profit from the productions.

A sad reminder of the shortcomings of No Child Left Behind.

If you think SotG can ever be profitable you are sadly mistaken. I also find it laughable that you think Arena Net would partake in these things if the creators made loads of money from it.

Lol’d.

1) Your opinion on whether it is potentially profitable or not is irrelevant. What does matter are the intentions of the publishers of the show and potential investors. If people are offered money to do something that they would otherwise be doing for free, they choose money.

2) Of course Anet would still participate. The medium that they are using to discuss their game with customers doesn’t change whether said medium is making a profit or not. I implore you to give one good reason why Anet would drop participation from SotG if they made the exact same shows they do now, except that their productions were sponsored by a company.

What SotG wants is free labor instead of taking the time to do research in figuring out what issues are important for wvw and pve. That’s fine, but I also hope they’re ok with sacrificing that potential viewer base.

Gab Superstar.4059:

Also, lol. How many posts will it take for this guy ^ to understand the meaning of “volunteer”? Bets can be mailed to me in-game.

deathTouch.9706:

Current profitability of the model does not equate to potential future profitability of the model. It’s like you think they’re not aspiring to become popular to the point that their model is profitable or something, or that they’re doing it for the good of the community at the expense of their own lives. No, they’re doing it because in part they likely get personal satisfaction out of making the productions, and also because they hope it becomes popular enough to the point where they can obtain sponsorship and profit from the productions.

A sad reminder of the shortcomings of No Child Left Behind.

styx.7294:

deathTouch.9706:

Or they could ask their audience what topics they’re most interested in learning about and then try to get the appropriate guests (planning?! No way!).

Why don’t you volunteer your time for that? Or if you have constructive criticism (instead of just insults), feel free to try it with less sarcasm.

Because doing webcasts isn’t what I enjoy doing and not something I view as being profitable or worth my time? It’s like saying I should run for president because I don’t agree with the incumbent’s policies. My unwillingness to devote my extremely limited free time to webcasting doesn’t detract from my ability to identify a production that has large room for improvement and bring these deficits to the attention of others.

styx.7294:

deathTouch.9706:

SotG needs some competition from another group to encourage them to step up their game. It’s not the responsibility of SotG’s viewership to spoon-feed them on how to hold an interesting conversation.

Again, volunteers, not a business. Threatening them with competition so they go out out of business is not like… going to make them go broke and be sad. It will just free up their time.

Current profitability of the model does not equate to potential future profitability of the model. It’s like you think they’re not aspiring to become popular to the point that their model is profitable or something, or that they’re doing it for the good of the community at the expense of their own lives. No, they’re doing it because in part they likely get personal satisfaction out of making the productions, and also because they hope it becomes popular enough to the point where they can obtain sponsorship and profit from the productions.

Competition would introduce the threat of losing something, in this case viewers. That would motivate SotG to put in a bit more effort in caring about what people actually want to see.

Yes, exactly correct. Warriors not losing adrenaline when they miss is the reason this game isn’t competitive. Because it’s skillful to indiscriminately spam blinds constantly.

Yes, warriors are indeed gamebreakingly OP in sPvP and tPvP. That’s why you see so many teams stacked with only warriors.

Where have you been all these years?

Or they could ask their audience what topics they’re most interested in learning about and then try to get the appropriate guests (planning?! No way!). They need to start asking hard questions too…all of this softball crap is just silly and useless information. This isn’t supposed to be another venue for Anet to give PR answers, it’s supposed to be something that gives your viewership actual useful information to concerns and interests that they have.

SotG needs some competition from another group to encourage them to step up their game. It’s not the responsibility of SotG’s viewership to spoon-feed them on how to hold an interesting conversation.

Kichwas.7152:

• Guardian: OMG Arenanet hates us, we need more deeps when going full berserker

x per fection x.2096:

etrigan.4213:

Whats with all the turtling inside towers MAG?

Well first off, we don’t have numbers you do. But since you asked in such a polite manner I will show you why. http://youtu.be/i2CN2cSJ9Uo

It doesn’t really matter though, in the tower or out of the tower http://youtu.be/x92fuH1OJ_Q the end result is the same:(

Pretty much this, all day erry day (or primetime at least).

FA might have pvd karma trains, but #Magswag has pvz bag trains.

saiyr.3071:

CuRtoKy.8576:

deathTouch.9706:

Shout out from FA to our opponents over at Bagoooma, you literally funded yet another 10 Gifts of Battle just from your performance in Mag BL today.

Couldn’t have done it without you! I’ve never seen a 50+ man zerg with 6 AC support repeatedly getting wiped by groups of 15-20 players to the extent that it happened tonight. If your commanders need some tips I’m sure Fissue of Woe would be willing to help out.

Mag: Giving out bags like it is Christmas since GW2 release.

Fixed to represent reality. Btw thanks for the exotics every day. WvW > CoF p1 farm :P

I take it this wasn’t the same 15-20 players on Kaineng BL that built 2 superior arrow carts to protect their “stealth” catapult from 4 of us.

No, it was the group that had to drop a Black Lion Merchant within guard range of FA-owned EK just so we could empty inventory quickly and finish looting all the bags on the ground.

Neeho.3859:

deathTouch.9706:

2) That is an oversimplified, and ultimately incorrect understanding of entropy. Entropy is more appropriately conceptualized as microstates of all atoms and molecules that can exist within a system. This understanding of entropy is consistent with the reason why hydrophobic substances such as oil spontaneously group together when in contact with water.

Colloquially, Entropy is known as the basic breakdown of order into disorder over time, just as he said. If we were talking thermodynamics, you would be right; unfortunately, we are talking about strategies to kill people in an MMO. While taking the time to look down your nose at other people, feel free to use the glasses planted there so you see clearly.

“Law of Entropy” is a layman reference to the physical definition of the term.

Shout out from Mag to our opponents over at Fort Bagspenwood, you literally funded yet another Gift of Battle just from your performance in Kaineng BL today.

Couldn’t have done it without you! I’ve never seen a 50+ man zerg repeatedly getting wiped by groups of 15-20 players to the extent that it happened tonight. If your commanders need some tips I’m sure Mag would be willing to help out.

FA: Pioneering the way to win match-ups through sheer coverage since 2012.

MindfulPerson.5273:

MagiKarp.8201:

Organised Chaos is the best kind of organisation.

The Law of Entropy says that all order eventually deteriorates into disorder. Organized Chaos implies no organisation.

Lol…no one is talking about entropy. Way to try and sound smart though, except:

1) There is no Law of Entropy. It’s a concept, not a law, and is derived from the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

2) That is an oversimplified, and ultimately incorrect understanding of entropy. Entropy is more appropriately conceptualized as microstates of all atoms and molecules that can exist within a system. This understanding of entropy is consistent with the reason why hydrophobic substances such as oil spontaneously group together when in contact with water.

Vuh.1328:

Why is it so unresponsive and non fluid with most melee weapons for most classes?
Why do we have self rooting melee skills?

I’d rather see perhaps some damage nerf to some skills like 100b for example, but make them mobile and more fluid to use. Self rooting or long cast time on melee abilities really break the flow of combat.
Self rooting and slow cast times belong to ranged weapon sets IMO and not melee, melee should be all about fluid and smooth combat without breaking movement.

Just like to add something more: Hate to draw comparision to WoW/SWTOR, but melee in those games felt ALOT more fluid, you pretty much had control of your character whatever you did(not counting cc from other players).
With the amount of CC and AOE spam would it really hurt to make melee weapons/classes more “agile/mobile/fluid”?

Yes, SWTOR melee felt much more smooth than GW2 melee. Even though I had to constantly juggle 20+ more skills as an anni marauder in swtor, it felt much smoother than these huge-windup skills and buggy pathing issues that I have to deal with in GW2 (sword 2, GS 5, shield 4).

Mara had tons of abilities to let you stick to targets in GW2 and had extremely effective gap-closers. When you factor in the huge wind-up times with many key warrior abilities, SWTOR actually felt smoother even with slight skill delay.

apt.9184:

Lol I agree with bry. There is kittening a 100 threads about warriors being bad I agree the warriors are not meta atm, but everyone is acting like warriors can’t do anything. First L2P the class then post your concerns. There are a lot of tricks with the class you can learn to be successful.

I can spend 1,000 hours learning how to play warrior to a point where it is average to above average in tpvp, or I can play a necro and mesmer for 10 hours and learn how to play it to a point where it is average to above average in tpvp, and then play it for 100 more hours and play it at a point where it is exceptional in tpvp.

That’s the problem in a nutshell.

Looks like a free bag

redslion.9675:

When I play warrior in soloqueue, I win most of my fights.

But my team loses most of the fights. Does this make any sense? Bad luck? Bad mates? Bad me?

Probably all of the three (even if I often see them all clutched into one point, try to take down something, even if the point is already theirs and probably only one person might be able to take it.)

You’re probably fighting over the wrong things. Taking and holding points are what win the game. In an ideal world warrior would be great at pressuring points and forcing teams to respond 1v2 to deal with a good warrior, and then holding the point until a good bunker can relieve the warrior and allow it to continue roaming or meet up with another teammate to pressure another point.

In reality, equal-skill warrior versus bunker anything and warrior loses almost 100% of the time, or takes so long to kill the bunker that enemy help arrives to push off the warrior. Because of poor damage mitigation, the warrior is also awful at holding points

The main issue with warrior is the lack of a broad or important enough niche in spvp to warrant including it on a team. Other classes can pressure points or roam between points better than war can.

Sil.4560:

deathTouch.9706:

It has the least survivability of any class in the game.

Hope that answers your question.

Hopefully it doesn’t, because that’s far from true.

That’s why the good spvp players unanimously agree survivability is the warrior’s #1 crippling issue at this point, right?

Name one class that has less survivability than the warrior while still being efficient in combat.

(Hint: Full PVT shout-heal build is not a correct counterpoint)

Also applies to sword 2. Any significant difference of the z-axis between your character and the target will result in a 100% miss rate.

It has the least survivability of any class in the game.

Hope that answers your question.

Hi,

I’ve noticed a number of players continuously go down because they get too close to Jormag and repeatedly try to DPS him when they should be focusing on killing pillars.

My suggestion is that, if a player goes down more than twice from getting too close to Jormag, rather than having the “Revive” option, it is replaced with the “Finish them!” option, allowing allies to stomp the player dead.

This would do two things:

1) Players would be extra careful not to stay in Jormag ice DOT to save themselves the embarrassment of getting stomped. Those players would instead focus on killing pillars;

2) Replace frustration of players who have the Jormag mechanic down and spend half their time reviving allies with joy and excitement every time someone hits the 2 revive limit and they get to stomp them dead.

Suggest implementing soon to expedite Jormag event. Thanks.

Explain how a percentage-based readout of crit damage would be subject to diminishing returns. It’s the values of arbitrary numbers such as strength and precision that are subject to diminishing returns, not percentage-based modifiers like crit-damage.

I’m not saying OP’s test of this system is valid by any means, it sounds like a pretty poor test in actuality. But replying with trendy words like “diminishing returns” when it has absolutely no application is silly.

Yes they stack, but I really found it to be overkill adren generation even with popping both bursts as quick as possible.

You have higher precision than power, with very low crit damage.

That’s not good. At all.

You are also squishy as kitten with no stunbreaker OR stability.

More like hit and get CCd/die build.

BTW, does anyone know if Mighty Defenses has an ICD? It might actually be really really strong if it doesn’t. Jump into the middle of a group of enemies and when you start to get focused pop shield stance to instantly get 20+ stacks of might, then earthshake again into the group for massive damage.

Then endure pain/defy pain can save your kitten as you egress out with sword 2.

ArtemisEntreri.4138:

Hmm I might have to try this – http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAS5ejcOxutQ+OMRCEkCNkLMK+Bx7UQJUKmDAA-jkyAYLBZyCAVAmQAl8KiGbZsIas6HM15iq1nAejioVLDAzCA-w

I’ve been trying to decide if the amount of CC in this build would proc distracting strikes enough to keep it up most of the fight. Their change to Warrior’s Sprint is a nice bonus. No swiftness to get converted or stolen. Warrior’s built in Signet of Shadows.

Thanks for reminding me about Unsuspecting Foe. I think your build has too high of armor though where you can build more into Power/Prec. 3k Armor is pretty nice and I have never noticed a big difference between 3k and 3.4k. Your attack is around or below 3k though which may hinder your damage some.

FYI with my build I’ve gone full berserker gear and have 3.1k attack unbuffed with 2800 armor via melandru runes and I don’t have major issues with surviving unless I do something stupid and earthshake into 400 ele AOEs and 50 ballistas or something. Even then, vigor + stability+ shield block + endure pain/defy pain + BS invulnerability to conditions —> sword 2 = survive!

Right now I’m running signet of might and have defy pain slotted to give some extra damage + allow me to maximize chance of massive burst on final thrust or earthshaker initiation by negating mass aegis from guardians.

Pretty similar to what im using now actually, except I substituted out the axe for a sword/shield.

Then I don’t have the huge downside of mobility but still have eviscerate-like dmg with shield bash —> final thrust. Mobility is so crucial for resetting fights and chasing enemies I don’t really see it as an option to forgo at this point.

Also, to anyone doubting the power of unsuspecting foe, hammer earthshaker applies the stun BEFORE the damage, guaranteeing a full AOE crit on the burst.

I can seriously destroy backlines of groups so hard with my build that is similar to this, particularly if a guard drops boons on me before I leap in.

And yeah, blinds suck but that’s irrespective of builds. There’s no warrior build that can effectively combat blind spam right now.

BS gives 4 seconds of immunity and that’s about it.

Ah only looked at 2nd page of bug list, figured the first page of bugs had been fixed by now…

Blademaster is supposed to increase critical hit chance by 10% when wielding a sword. However, regardless of whether a sword is equipped or not, the bonus is not reflected in the hero panel for overall crit chance when wielding a sword in a weapon set.

Overall crit chance also doesn’t change whether this trait is active or not, indicating that it might have no effect at the moment.

I’m not sure whether it isn’t working at all, or whether it just isn’t being reflected in the overall crit chance printout in the hero panel.

Warrior.

Why the hell else would we play this class when all other classes do their jobs better than them?

It’s pve. Ýou can come up with the worst builds possible for war and still do just fine.

I personally find mace/mace + Mace/shield with full Giver’s armor with all physical utility traits and mistfire wolf or juggernaut to work great!

This is a good example of a build that would work well in pve: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQRApZ5ejkO1uxOqOQxBEkCvgLOKgiAM94MMj0A-jUyAouBRTPCNZAiOAkHLiGb1rIasKbMNLRUtXgIqWIAFrBA-w

I don’t understand why all of our skills have to have some sort of huge downside to them. Why can’t we just have a quick animation? I mean we’re already giving up huge survivability to play as a warrior…why can’t we just do our job well in dealing damage quickly and reliably rather than having these huge windups for each skill?

Other classes get to attack from stealth, get instant cast times for huge damage, get teleports —> instant massive single target damage spells such as backstab or condi applications…

We get massive wind-ups and cooldowns attached to anything that deals more than 500 dmg. I swear playing a warrior is like being a training dummy for an enemy’s ability to dodge or press their low-cd stunbreakers, teleports and stealth.

It’s like they designed this class to be a humanized tutorial for other classes to train in the use of their dodge buttons.

It’s really, really really bad. And the worst part is people are still catching onto how OP this is right now.

Give it a week. Then take a break until they patch it.

“On another note, Blinds are so unbelievably killing me, but that’s not a class specific change.”

I think that’s worth pointing out again. It’s not class-specific, but its buffing has impacted our class asymmetrically hard. Like really hard.

Obtena.7952:

deathTouch.9706:

Wait till you fight multiple thieves who are all blinding you and dodging/rolling/stealthing in different directions. Might as well just stand there and die because there is nothing you can do.

Is that really unreasonable? Anyone fighting multiple anything should have a REALLY tough go of it. Frankly, if you don’t die from being outnumbered, your opponents suck. You should expect it Has nothing to do with being thieves.

I don’t think you understand.

It doesn’t matter if you’re 1v2ing, 2v2ing, 3v2ing, the thieves will be applying AOE blinds, both of them, to everyone trying to melee them. Then they move in different directions. If you, as a melee, are stuck to one thief, you will still be blinded by another thief, whom you are not in melee distance to shake off the blind.

Here’s the other thing. It doesn’t matter how bad the thieves are, or how good the warrior is. If they are spamming blinds, the warrior is incapable of winning the fight. Thus the important factor is no longer who is more skilled, but rather whether the thieves have blinds in their builds and how many they are packing. And I guarantee you with how powerful blind has become, every single thief will be running blind-heavy builds.

And this isn’t even talking about mesmers, guardians and ele’s yet. Mesmers might even be worse than thieves at this point in abusing this now-broken mechanic.

Blind was already very strong before this change. There was absolutely no reason to buff blind.

Oh btw, guess who is in last place by a mile and a half with regards to number of skills that apply blind? That’s right, warrior.

1/10, blind spam now makes us completely obsolete.

If you want to play a burst DPS class, play thief. They hit just as hard and have 10x the mobility and survivability.

This blind mechanic is absolutely kittened. It’s really that simple.

Wait till you fight multiple thieves who are all blinding you and dodging/rolling/stealthing in different directions. Might as well just stand there and die because there is nothing you can do.

Melandru Runes + Dogged March + Lemongrass Poultry soup

How is that not enough cond removal as is?

Yeah I have a thought. Stick with melandru runes and -cond food and spend the trait points on something other than cleansing ire.

Downed state of the warrior is atrocious compared to other classes. The problem is that the mechanisms of other classes allows the downed player to buy time with regards to multiple foes trying to finish them, whereas the warrior only has the ability to disrupt a single foe from being able to stomp, and even then, it’s only if they aren’t running stability.

There is no practical situation where the warrior downed state is more useful than its counterparts. Ele downed state allows the ele to retreat back behind lines where they can easily get ressed by teammates, or force enemy players to overextend their own team in order to attempt to kill the ele. Guardians have an AOE knockback, warriors have single target. There is absolutely no advantage whatsoever to a single target CC that lasts the same duration as an AOE CC. Thief/mesmer teleports/invis are able to buy a few seconds extra that affects all enemies trying to finish the downed thief/mesmer.

Warriors are often in situations where they are engaging multiple targets on the front lines of combat, just like guardians. This is where the AOE knockback versus single target knockback difference really becomes apparent. Two people stomping at the same time should be punished. When doing this versus warriors, it’s rewarded.

Vengeance is almost never used, and if it is used, it’s incredibly situational in its use. You have to try and find a target with low HP, down said target, and then proceed to kill the target (when you’ve likely already blown your stability trying not to get downed in the first place), at which point the downed target will use its superior downed state to evade you until you fall over and die. Then, if you manage to actually kill this target, you have a CHANCE at living if its not traited. Honestly, I use vengeance just to try and rez other players around me more than I try to actually kill enemy players because I know the extremely low probability of any competent player allowing me to get a kill while I have a huge golden bubble surrounding me. And no competitive player (I mean absolutely none) will give up the Mobile Strikes trait in order to take Sweet Revenge since we need Mobile Strikes just to be kittening half-viable in competitive play.

If you are going to keep vengeance, at the bare minimum, you have to incorporate the Sweet Vengeance into the Vengeance mechanic itself, by default. If you as a warrior can happen to get past the horrifically long activation timer and manage to kill the player who had the advantage in the fight to begin with by downing you and tried to kite you after you awake from vengeance, you deserve to live. Hell, in addition I think you should get perma-swiftness during the vengeance duration.

In addition, to bring the downed state in line with others, it needs an AOE CC so that wars can get through the long activation timer with more regularity.

Vengeance CAN be a strong mechanic, but right now it’s a horrifically sad gimmick that is actually useful in maybe 1/50 or less downed states, and there is nothing else that compensates or synergizes in ther warrior downed state to compensate.

iCryptik.1496:

The change was needed to balance class roles in dungeons. Warriors are still extremely viable. If you think otherwise, I doubt any sort of common sense reasoning will work on explaining balance to you.

When the kitten has any game that claims to have competitive pvp balanced a class (meaning 1 of 8 classes) on the basis of PVE damage? If they subtracted PVE damage that was also useful in PVP they needed to give compensating PVP damage/sustain/mobility whatever. You can asymmetrically nerf PVE damage while buffing PVP elements, but that’s not what happened.

People don’t sit in place and let you kill them like a target dummy. This is balancing the game to the lowest common denominator of difficulty, and it’s stupid.

Only if you substitute out these “guardians and engineers” for other warriors.

If all we need is more deeps then substituting out classes that do less deeps for ones that do more will be much more useful than gimping the only warrior in your group by forcing it to go banner build.

I have no idea where you’re getting this idea that warriors will still be anything but king of pve next patch. Warriors only useful for party buffs? LOL ok you do that and see how it goes.

From the original source:

“One of my guildies send me a link to an sendspace.pl site. I’ve posted this a few minutes ago but it got downvoted because people don’t trust .txt files on a Polish site. So here you go: http://pastebin.com/2rrFg9pS

I do not know where these notes come from, but they look legit enough to share. Don’t kick me when the actual patch notes are way different."

Yeah, seems legit. I’ll take one of those real 24 carat Rolex you got hanging from your trenchcoat too.

Logan needs to die by a speeding oxcart or something and buried in a random grave in Queensdale. Don’t even make it a major event, just tack it onto the beginning of a living story segment as sort of a “btw this happened since last time we spoke” thing.

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OmniPotentes.4817:

I have played the trading post for 3000 hours but have had 0 precursors drop. Nevermind. I’m in total control of the precursor market anyway!

Yeah it’s not like there’s hundreds of precursors entering the market daily from all the people MFing yellows!