Guild Wars 2

Hopefully they remove Prayer to Kormir. No one prays to the troll god.

We will not know until Elite specialisations are released.

Too. But yeah, we need more details.

Adventurous Cookie.1658:

Nike.2631:

Maybe they’re going to allow heals to crit…

“Who needs a medical license when you got style?”

Borderlands <3

Most mobs in Silverwastes are event based, and do not drop any loot. Will these mobs still be able to drop the beta access portal, or does it have to be from mobs who actually drop things?

What is the ACTUAL longbow range right now? 1700? 1900?

Based on precision? So new healing spec Elementalist wearing Healing power/Precision/Ferocity?

Lol…

http://dulfy.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/gw2-ferocious-winds.jpg

How did something so incredibly bad even make it to alpha, let alone beta? Base healing power is ZERO, and Ferocity from it? You see a plethora of Elementalists stacking healing power and wanting crit damage?

I guess it is supposed to represent the new, horrible, Air tree.

Nike.2631:

That actually seems to be a pattern across all the professions. There are a lot of beefy Grandmaster minors now…

Fire and Air are the same, Earth is strong, Water is an ally healing only one (what the…) and Arcane is the same, horrendously bad one it has always been.

Of course, Elementalists were targeted for nerfs with this revamp, but even still…

lordkrall.7241:

Goorman.7916:

The problem is that developers “balance” the game at most two times a year. Ease of balance is the last cause for concern, if of course developers are honest with themselves.

What makes you so sure it is not connected?
Maybe they can’t make swift balancing changes simply due to the fact that there are millions different things they need to take into consideration?

Sarcasm, I hope.

Zaklex.6308:

dietzero.3514:

Zaklex.6308:

Someone asked this question in the AMA, and the answer I heard was you can certainly do this if you want too. You’re not restricted to going straight across the board and selecting one of each level…they specifically mentioned you could select 2 Grand Master Traits if you wanted too.

You can most definitely NOT select 2 grandmaster traits in the same line.

If you don’t believe me that’s fine, if they recorded the AMA and end up posting it on their YouTube channel, go listen to it…it was near the end when they answered someones question about this. I stick by what I heard.

I think you have it mixed up with them saying you will have another Grandmaster trait to balance it out.

They did it to, presumably, kill off the Air tree. Nothing else makes sense,

sorudo.9054:

i hope they are finally gonna add something for arcane, like a weapon line so you can play as an arcane mage with the appropriate trait line.
or at least something along the lines.

Yes, this.

People are talking like ‘omg so what if your build was killed!’ Arcane skill builds never lived to begin with, despite having traits and skills for it. It is even worse now, so what is the point in these traits and skills? Useless filler?

If they do nerf it because it becomes a cantrip, then they might as well lock all PvP builds into water, due to conditions.

Ele never had a condition build for them to kill.

Also Elemental Surge is competing with Evasive Arcana and Elemental Attunement. Something Anet seems to have forgotten.

LucosTheDutch.4819:

dietzero.3514:

It cannot be anything BUT a loss to build flecibility.

False.

The fact that Anet merges a lot of traits means that certain builds that required multiple very specific traits will now only need 1 grandmaster trait that has it all, meaning you have 2 extra traits up for grabs.

For example the meditation guardian: being a useful meditation guardian means you have to use up the entire Valor tree just to make your meditations shine. As a mediguard you are stuck to picking Meditation Mastery, Focused Mind and Monk’s focus to get the best out of your meditations, leaving you with little else to choose.
With the new system, I only have to pick the Meditation Mastery grandmaster trait at the end of the Valor tree and still have 2 other traits in the Valor tree up for grabs. So in this case and probably many other cases the new system adds flexibility.

You misunderstand. Not being able to take multiple Adept or Master traits cannot be anything BUT a loss of flexibility.

Yeah, they killed off all non-staff PvE builds. Hopefully whatever weapon the Tempest uses is viable.

I was hoping they would make a build centred around Arcane skills and traits viable, but instead they went and made it even worse.

Did it say new currency, or just currency?

Renewing Stamina and Elemental Attunement are still core traits. And unless you love having to 100% rely on Ether Renewal, you still need water for conditions. So nothing much has changed.

sorrychief.2563:

dietzero.3514:

sorrychief.2563:

Honestly you guys shouldn’t be alarmed. This change was clearly comming ever since elemental attunement got removed from adept line and some builds prior to that were just fine with only 2/10 points in arcana. Same thing with cleansing wave when you could run a fairly strong build with minimal points in water that had decent sustain.

But atleast it will be interesting to see what new builds people come up with. It would have been even more interesting if elemental attunement was simply a base function of the attunement swap mechanics. 0 arcana builds anyone?

Ok?

The point is Elemental Surge and Arcane skill builds are even more screwed over, now.

I’m embarrassed to say I didn’t even know what elemental surge was up until now.

No embarassment there. Anet seem to want it that way. They even forgot about the third Grandmaster trait themselves.

As for who plays an Arcane skill build, I wish I could. But they make it impossible

Maybe the Elite Specialisation will open up new builds.

sorrychief.2563:

Honestly you guys shouldn’t be alarmed. This change was clearly comming ever since elemental attunement got removed from adept line and some builds prior to that were just fine with only 2/10 points in arcana. Same thing with cleansing wave when you could run a fairly strong build with minimal points in water that had decent sustain.

But atleast it will be interesting to see what new builds people come up with. It would have been even more interesting if elemental attunement was simply a base function of the attunement swap mechanics. 0 arcana builds anyone?

Ok?

The point is Elemental Surge and Arcane skill builds are even more screwed over, now.

The other trait is called Elemental Surge, in case anyone was wondering. No one will use it, though.

Elemental Surge…they combined it with Arcane Lightning, but forced us to pick it over the ‘core’ Elementalist traits. Very lame by Anet.

As for condition builds, they will still suck. We need access to different conditions or the ability to rapidly re-apply them.

Magi.8643:

dietzero.3514:

Seems like anet, and a lot of other people, forgot that there are THREE Grandmaster Arcane traits.

It seems you have forgotten that you can only have 1 grand-master 2 of which are a must for using the arcane trait line and with this change it leave nothing worth picking up for the master trait.

You have absolutely no idea what I am even talking about, do you?

You talk about wanting Elementalists to have to choose between the ‘core’ traits of Evasive Arcana and Elemental Attunement, and totally forget that there is a THIRD Arcane Grandmaster trait. I know builds revolving around the Arcane skills are dead, but did you really need to kill them further?

Zaklex.6308:

Someone asked this question in the AMA, and the answer I heard was you can certainly do this if you want too. You’re not restricted to going straight across the board and selecting one of each level…they specifically mentioned you could select 2 Grand Master Traits if you wanted too.

You can most definitely NOT select 2 grandmaster traits in the same line.

Which means simpler.

Elementalist Arcane skill builds were further killed. Not that anyone used them…

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

We don’t know if it’s a loss to flexibility yet. We just know that we wouldn’t be assigning two adept traits any longer. I’m in favor of waiting to see what the traits actually look like before being upset that I can’t assign them in the old way.

Right now, the main reason I assign two adepts at a time is that often the majors don’t offer anything I can actually use. I’d prefer a system with more substantive master traits, even if it means only one adept at a time. This is especially true if, as suggested in some of the presentations, some of the capabilities are moved to minor traits or the baseline and/or merged with master/GM traits.

tl;dr I think it’s too soon to say if this is going to be better or worse (or even) with what we have now.

It cannot be anything BUT a loss to build flecibility.

Seems like anet, and a lot of other people, forgot that there are THREE Grandmaster Arcane traits.

Lavafrost of Maguuma.6807:

It’s not being taken away, just forcing us to choose between Evasive Arcana and Elemental Attunement.

What? The main talent for Arcane builds, where you use Arcane spells, is Elemental Surge. It is the one between the two core abilities, i.e Arcane build is even more dead.

If you said you were from Elona, she would be black.

Ankushp.7245:

dietzero.3514:

Ankushp.7245:

Hehe it will be so funny if that happens……Yay for being too lazy to do fractals :P

Lazy? Seriously? People are not allowed to dislike fractals now?

You misunderstood :/ …..I am the one who has been too lazy……

Oh. Fair enough. Still, fractals should not be the defining factor.

Elementalist Arcane builds already suck, and now you are taking Elemental Attunement away from us as well! That final line of Arcane is just plain BS.

http://dulfy.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/gw2-elementalist-arcane-specialization1.jpg

The main arcane talent, Elemental Surge, alongside the main 2 traits? Arcane needed all the help it could get, yet you killed it more.

Ankushp.7245:

Hehe it will be so funny if that happens……Yay for being too lazy to do fractals :P

Lazy? Seriously? People are not allowed to dislike fractals now?

He actually makes a valid point. His trait stats are different to his armour stats, so his stat allocation will change completely.

rapthorne.7345:

I have yet to come across an MMORPG where the mage dps class wasn’t incredibly overpowered, or at the very least hugely overcompensated for being “squishy” (let’s see, massive heal spam potential, invulnerability, insane mobility, heal on spell cast, boons out the kitten, etc).

Ele’s strength comes from the sheer versatility of the attunement class mechanic, they are not jack of all trades, but master of them. A good elementalist can do pretty much everything

Wow…an ele wielding all weapons at once, with nearly all trait trees maxed! Awesome.

Seems like the character was reacting properly to the Majory/Kas scenes.

The mini would still ruin the scene. Even if it has no emotions. Unless the intention is to laugh at every scene.

Souto.2716:

dietzero.3514:

RoseofGilead.8907:

I just don’t get the big deal about the animations being removed. Nor do I see a double standard or feel the need to feign rage about said double standard.

It is the very definition of double standard…

Except it’s not?…

In one hand you have a being capable of expressing any range of emotion. Someone who feels pain, is able to die, and is eventually a leader of people.

On the other you have a toy whose purpose is to be goofy.

So this is not about scenes being ruined then?

RoseofGilead.8907:

I just don’t get the big deal about the animations being removed. Nor do I see a double standard or feel the need to feign rage about said double standard.

It is the very definition of double standard…

I guess the wiki is wrong about Caithe’s Wyld Hunt, then.

Anyway, Mordremoth’s hand might still be in the PC Sylvari’s Wyld Hunt.

Dragon minions HAVE come into contact with each other: Sylvari with the Risen. No Sylvari were corrupted, showing they do have some form of protection.

On a related note, all Sylvari player characters and Caithe were given the Wyld Hunt to kill Zhaitan. Was this Mordremoth’s influence?

lordkrall.7241:

I remember back when they released armor sets and people complained about those and rather wanted outfits…

The circle is now complete.

That never happened.

He is the oldest of the Pale Tree’s children. I seriously doubt he is easily corrupted.

cranos.5913:

Ralanost.8913:

cranos.5913:

Myrden.2456:

cranos.5913:

I stopped caring about specialisations as soon as I learned guardian will get a bow. Anyway, I doubt we’ll be seeing any information about them in the next month. I have a feeling they wanna keep this info for last.

This hasn’t been confirmed yet. it MAY be the case, but ANET hasn’t released it, so why dismiss it already. Also, who’s to say the longbow may not have great attacks that really add to the profession?

Considering pretty much every fight in PvE is melee, I’m disappointed we get a ranged weapon.

Only if you are in the zerg/everyone stack camp of thought, sure.

Can’t rly zerg that well in 5 man groups. And stacking only happens for trash.

Ranatoa.4869:

Too bad there are two other game modes….

Irrelevant.

So not only do you dismiss other gamemodes, but you consider PvE to only be dungeons. Your very limited view helps no one.

It is even worse for Oceanic players. You pretty much count on the increased 40 second cooldown. They really need to change/fix this skill.

They scrapped it in favour of Legendary Outfits instead. Gemstore only.

Mono.7320:

Rebound.3409:

I hope not. One ascended piece costs more then a precursor atm. Imagine how much 1 legendary piece would cost.

It just adds to the already existing grinding and frustration. Terrible idea.

what you talking about…. 1 ascended weapon costs 40-50 gold and for chest piece 150-200g…thats like nothing u can farm it in 2 days

What? 150-200 gold is nothing and can be farmed in 2 days? I must be playing the game wrong…

It is pretty ridiculous that necros and rangers can go and collect their new specialisation skins, while other professions have to wait.