Guild Wars 2

They shouldn’t make any class crucial for raids. Some could be better than others but forcing a crucial class just makes it no better than other raid games where you need a particular tank or healer.

The current design is fine, thief is in a good strong place for raids such as Matthias and Sabetha and even on other bosses such as VG it is still a solid choice.

Most raiders can and should have multiple classes for raids and swap it up depending on the situation.

You’re not using food :^)

OCX is pretty bad for population of anything not just raids. Some nights T4 fractals have 0 listings for ages.

Maybe 1-2 LFG (solos) and no squads usually for raids.

The only avenue really is to look for a training or actual raid guild to take you along. That or raid on the weekends only with NA guilds.

Try reddit’s guildrecruitment thing.

YB has no SEA, just occasionally DK no lifes and plays in SEA time which was what made T1 SEA so stale since they’d just have like 5-10 man back capping and no fights.

I don’t get why you don’t understand that you can make your own raid group and run whatever you want. Why do you expect other people to cater to you specifically?

What if 9 bearbow 3 signet rangers joined your raid group? Would you tell them to run something else or let them stay and waste a few hours wiping on VG since they don’t have the proper setups?

They’re the ones putting in the effort to teach you it’s totally fair for them to ask you to run what they want so they know what to expect instead of catering to every bit of your special needs.

You’re a guest in their squad, they’re the ones leading. You either play ball or make your own squad where you can have whatever build you want do whatever thing.

I’ve never seen people insist on 100% meta builds but most people have a few key utilities/traits/runes/sigils/weapon sets that are best for each encounter which is why people use them. The very best players know when to use different stuff for what is required and any ‘meta’ build is just a guideline rather than a must follow.

Anyone who has raided for more than 2 hours could tell you shield is useless on Rev in raids. This isn’t sPvP, you don’t need the shield and offhand sword would be far more useful since it has a block and a CC.

The difficulty you face is because you think your special snowflake builds have merit when in fact they don’t since people have run hundreds of hours of raids testing everything to see what’s best.

It’s true, trio and escort are really easy. I’ve seen RP guilds finish the escort with random mashups of builds and classes and just swapping utilities once they realized what they needed.

Just sad people are more willing to cry on the forums than to actually work towards something.

cephiroth.6182:

Fixed that for you.
Maybe not the 99% is the source of irritation, maybe it’s the 1%.

What are you even talking about? GW2 is 99% casual, everything is accessible to everybody, even raids. The only people who can’t raid are those with disabilities or just refuse to get good enough to raid.

Don’t change what I said and put words into my mouth that I didn’t say. Just because you’re bad and I’m calling you bad doesn’t mean I’m elitist. You’re objectively bad when you refuse to do what many people have done and instead blame the system.

- Clear Vale Guardian
- Using a completely random LFG party
- NONE of whom have any experience with the encounter
- with absolutely no gearchecks or class-checks, come as you are
- half hour total time limit, one wipe allowed.

- Clear Arah Explorable (any path)
- Using a completely random LFG party
- NONE of whom have any experience with the encounter
- with absolutely no gearchecks or class-checks, come as you are
- half hour total time limit, one wipe allowed.

500g all yours Ohoni if you can do it with video proof

I’d like to see some of these guys try Arah p4 in 30 mins with just 1 wipe in a random LFG pug ayyy lmao

Actually any arah path. I’ll give u 500g if you make a video of you randomly pugging Ohoni, arah dungeon 30 minutes just 1 wipe in LFG.

If you’re bad you don’t deserve anything from raids period.

You already have the other 99% of the game you can enjoy and do stuff in while exerting almost no effort 11111111111.

Adding hypotheticals and stuff as a ‘challenge’ to us means nothing, we already did the challenge. We had pugs clear every boss (all 9!) with no experience (how do you think they get experience?), it takes many wipes but persistence pays off.

Just because you are bad doesn’t mean the rest of us who have pugged are bad too. We’ve had our fair share of fails but instead of posting about it and trying to change the game mode to suit our needs we realized we could you know, make friends and get a group together to raid while adding in more pugs who eventually also become friends.

I recall in the 3rd week VG came out I just joined a pug, no gear check, no questions asked and just yolo’d. First kill no wipes everybody was surprised.

There are so many training guilds out there now helping people get clears and get better yet there are so many of you posting here complaining, whinging, crying and hating on everything that doesn’t fit your narrative with regards to “elitist raids”. It’s almost comical if it wasn’t so sad how you yourself is the biggest obstacle to you raiding.

keyboard turning auto attackers spamming “br? br? Alguien espanol? Br?” in team nonstop

LOL. QFT

Nobody plays stronghold apart from pip farmers in ranked. Go play conquest if you wanna move up anywhere past ruby.

Even with AB farm the ectos are 48-50s each. Imagine if they “fixed” this, you’d have to pay 60s per ecto or something insane because SW chest farm doesn’t generate nearly the amount of rares that AB does.

Ty GS

Well like I’ve previously commented on threads like these if you want an easy mode raid with no legendary armor rewards, no magnetite shards, no ascended gear rewards then sure ok.

It’d be a lot of dev time spent just to add another mode with little gain to myself but I see the benefit in it for people to experience the story and lore.

Most people however seem to want the raid rewards without actually doing raids which just annoys me because they feel entitled to the loot without putting in the effort.

It is also telling that despite how ‘exclusive’ raids are, open world farming such as AB/SW is still far more profitable than raids so it’s not like raiders are rolling in $$$$ except those very few who sell raids.

If they’re running the d/d condi variant you can just pop retaliation and watch them kill themselves lol.

Not sure how to fight the staff version, don’t see it often enough to consider it a threat but I hear d/p thief counters it pretty well.

So you basically just want everything handed to you because reasons. Entitlement much?

LOOOOL the raids might not be that hard but at least I’m not the one paying 2000g / week for some ‘easy’ stuff ayyy lmao

TC did everybody a favor by winning. No YB in T1, DB in T1 and an end to BG’s win streak.

OW matchamaking post by their dev might be interesting to you guys:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/4p5a63/jeff_kaplan_has_addressed_matchmaking/

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

Stop thinking it’s easy to get in a raid viable guild, it’s not, not if you play all game modes.

I have to say you’re entirely wrong.

I have 32.6k AP, I play WvW (not as much now)/PvP/Raids and even AB farm. I have 3 bank guilds, 1 small friend guild (~15-20 active) and one AB farming guild. I don’t have a raid guild. I pugged a LOT. I made LFGs, joined LFGs and made friends and then lost some then made some more.

I even made posts on the looking for subforum looking for raiders to join the team and trialled them etc. ALL not in a raid guild.

Instead of complaining about no raid viable guilds recruiting you perhaps consider that you could start a raid team yourself using people you’ve met through pugging which is exactly what I did.

You guys all just complain complain about how hard it is yet when I did it there was no LFG. There was no insight pinging. You just had to try and then find the people who were somewhat decent and keep going. I didn’t kill sabetha for 3 weeks, sloth for 2 weeks because I wasn’t in a big raid guild. Now? I can clear both w1/2 in 70 minutes.

I am even on NA where people say “the players are worse” yet here I am clearing the raids without a raid guild group.

But by all means keep blaming the system, other people, the raid team when the only thing keeping you down is yourself.

Finding 9 other people is entirely possible and on you to do so. I’ve done it, many others have done it and continue to do it. If all of you spent half the time posting on here to find and form a proper team you’d have 150 insights by now probably.

This isn’t like WvW where you need a blob to take objectives and hoping you have more people than the other side.

Comparing LIs to WvW map comp is a bit of a stretch. LIs can be obtained within raids to get legendary armor for raids, completely in raids.

Map comp in WvW had no relation to PvE at all which is what the rest of the legendary basically was.

Even then, WvW is somewhat a PvP mode so of course it was far more difficult to get full map comps since it required both a decent team on your side to take objectives and the other side to not be able to defend theirs.

The only thing stopping you from getting LIs however, is yourself.

Unranked and ranked both have flawed MM system gg

Well maybe you should start now while it’s still not out for another few months instead of complaining.

Matchmaking considers all legends as ‘the same’ for pip purposes, seems fine to me. If you aren’t good enough then you’re not good enough (like me, I’m not good enough).

You wanting to lower the LI requirement and thus decreasing the perceived value of legendary armor to me is not “nothing”.

You wanting instant gratification and casualizing the requirements of the armor just because of your inability to obtain 150 LIs is not “nothing”.

Sure the raiders who are close to 150 or have 150 already will get the armor first but there is nothing stopping you from getting your armor a few months later if you’re a bit slower. Do you seriously believe you deserve the legendary armor because you raided for a few weeks instead of putting in effort over 4 months or more?

Most of my casual friends who work full time understand that getting the armor will be a long journey and somewhat difficult. They know it will take them longer than 4 months but they realize that it is a long term goal and instead of complaining they just try to raid what they can and save up insights. Most of them are around 50-80 insights and they don’t complain because they think it is fair that only the most hardcore rushing people get it first.

When I was making Ad Infinitum I was late to the party and made it 3 weeks after everyone who rushed did. Did I complain about the timegates? No. I didn’t start on time and didn’t keep doing fractals, it was entirely my fault. I didn’t deserve to have it as fast as the people who kept up doing dailies. It is the same in raids, people who don’t bother getting 150 LI don’t deserve the armor. Simple.

I don’t sell raids. Never have never will since I don’t want low skilled players buying their way to legendary armor.

Unfortunately other people sell raids but at least with 150 LIs it becomes unfeasible for the majority to buy their way through to legendary armor.

The fact that you think nomads anything makes it harder means you’re not skilled.

I’m glad you’re having trouble getting the 150 LI because you don’t deserve it.

That’s not how value works. The legendary armor has value to me because it is prestigious and requires multi month skilled based method to obtain (LIs).

Any reduction to LI required would devalue it in my eyes. This has nothing to do with numbers of LI but rather the act of decreasing the total required. Even if I had 0 LI it would devalue the whole thing for me.

Like the guy who posted somewhere above, they nerfed GWAMM into oblivion and made everything ezpz. Raid legendary armor is literally the only thing which isn’t ezpz and you want to get rid of that, you can bet I’m sour if you try to do that.

I’m not in a raid guild and I have 153 insights.

People that raided since the start have by and large put in way more effort than those who start now and have waited far longer “timegate” than the 4 months.

We raided when there was no set groups, no meta builds, no guides, no LFG, nothing. What did we do? Did we cry and give up? No. We tried to network, make friends, build up our contacts and raid more.

Wanting to lower the LI requirement just devalues what everybody else has worked towards so far and also makes it so that more people are able to BUY RAIDS and get the legend armor since the requirement is lower they can just keep buying wing 1 on the cheap. Any prestige would be gone.

Yeah it’s a bug you need to trade with her in a fresh non cleared instance, at the end after Xera she doesn’t accept mini trades

The only people who like unranked are those who like being carried. Ranked has its own set of issues but it’s leaps and bounds ahead of unranked in terms of matchmaking. The Helseth vid is exactly my experience in unranked, I either stomp people 1v4 or my team just dies instantly resulting in me being outnumbered 3 to 1 on every node I try to rotate to.

It’s not fun for me so it can’t be fun for anyone else.

I pugged most of my raids early on and got into a group with other pugs who were like minded. My groups died 3-4 times since raids were available and I had to find new groups.

I am not in big raiding guilds like NA, DnT, ROID, zQ, Ren, LOD etc. I know a few people here and there but for the most part I pugged until I had enough people on friends I could call for help in raids and eventually get into a group that was somewhat static.

Even now my weekly raids are only 8/10 static and the guys are from over 5 different guilds.

If you guys actually bothered to pug raids and keep it up over time you’d have 100+ LI by now at least. I know plenty of people who don’t have static groups and try to do maybe 70% of the bosses every week and still manage to have over half the required LIs already.

But by all means keep complaining and blaming everything else but yourself for your lack of Insights

It’s not like you have to raid every day for 4 months straight. Maybe while you’re building the armor you can spend some of the time in between farming the materials required or doing other stuff.

I don’t see how it’s insane.

Mea.5491:

When players’ mentality changes and they realize that DPS is not everything. In other words: never.

DPS isn’t everything that’s why people use different utilities/traits in raids that aren’t always max DPS.

It’s all about HOW MUCH DPS you can put out while staying alive. In some cases, you don’t need any survivability and can max DPS. In other cases, you need healers or some level of sustain.

As for open world, half the people standing there aren’t in zerk or vipers. It’s pretty obvious they are running subpar builds, subpar stats and so on but it’s open world so they probably prefer doing their own thing which is fine. I never run PS/EA on my warrior when open world and run 25% move speed disc line even though it’s bad for DPS.

Even in dungeons nowadays nobody really cares what you run as long as your build is some what good enough to provide for the team. Such as, warriors should provide might, revs should provide some boons, chronos quickness etc. You could take a full magi healing druid into fractals and nobody would mind (just from my experience).

I’ll also add that when I did trio fracs, we would take a cleric guardian to tank and heal since it was far easier with it than having full zerk. A lot of builds are viable it just depends what you want to do.

I have no interest in ‘carrying’ unranked by killing people 1v3. That’s not PvP to me, that’s like farming PvE. Most of my games I win 500-50 or lose 500-50 in unranked.

Ranked isn’t perfect either but at least I don’t get totally new players on my teams even if the matches are just as lopsided.

150 LI prevents most people from simply buying the raids and those that do have to put a ton of money towards it.

If they nerfed it, everybody would just buy Wing2/3 once and keep buying the cheap wing 1 every week to get the insights.

That would totally devalue the armor sets when they come out as everybody with a couple of thousand extra gold will have it.

Also you’ve had raids available for how long now? Crying that it takes 4 months from nothing + the time to find raid groups is just nonsensical. It’s like complaining how the PvP backpiece is timegated but only starting at season 3.5. There’s been ample opportunity for you to learn the raids or get to know other people who can form groups.

JQ always had 1-2 map queue vs BG/TC (in T1) in SEA, they’re not really fairweather. Those FOO, WvW FUG guys always show up regardless of ppt score.

This problem arises because the population is too small. In an ideal world you would vs players of similar skill and even if you get stomped the next game won’t be the same people due to the large pool of people.

Unranked is a totally different story. I’ve gotten 3 signet rangers and people that are totally new to PvP on my team (and against). That’s not really fun for me either and I’ve rarely if ever had a close game out of the past 50 unranked matches I’ve had since this season started.

They just need to scrap everything and rework it, right now both ranked and unranked are messed up

Also if you don’t wanna grind 150 LI then wait for the non raid legendary armor which will come later.

This is a raid exclusive thing and it’s fine at 150 LI.

Shatterstone buff hype

Fair enough.

I don’t mind tough matches myself but just from my perspective if I’m 1 pip from legend I’ll try to do everything I can to get that last pip so I don’t stress myself out and get frustrated. Even if that involves q dodging.

kdaddy.5431:

No definitely not, this is probably just my way of coping with this.

Im trying to look at things from all sides. Ive been in T7 diamond for a good 3-4 days. I its not just zoose. Im getting ESL players on the other team every game i need to get into legendary and this is just my way of telling myself maybe its not my time.

Ive seen these players for years back in solo que and they are a notch above many of us. So i just try to remind myself that its not my fault they are better, its not there fault they always seem to be on the other team. Im also trying not to blame MM even though ive had 4 pips 5-6-7 times and couldnt get the win.

So like Dory said, just keep swimming just keep swimming.

You guys did well considering what you were up against. That symphony guy and tarcis are both amazing players. Even in legend if I vs them it’s a 100% loss lol.

I think you need to start considering blocking/adding these guys to your list so you can q dodge and get into legend tbh.

I feel like they changed the system a bit and even at prestige 16 you can get put against diamonds if the queue is long enough so yeah not very good right now to try get into legend.

Caed too strong plz nerf

I’d watch more if twitch didn’t lag the eff out half the time for me.

As for pro league, generally not interested in the way they showcase the fights. I like watching them from their perspective rather than from an overview spectator perspective which is just a mess and i can’t tell who’s doing what in the visual clutter.

I do occasionally watch ppl stream like Chaith, Vallun, beyondb etc but it’s not really all that interesting (conquest) so I get bored fast even if the hosts aren’t bad.

Sooloo.1364:

I do T4 fractals everyday, I’m pretty good at them and get them done fast. I regularly get players in my groups who have the pvp legendary wings on display. And more often than not I spend most of my time rezing those players to prevent wipes. I stand there wondering how did they get those wings when they can’t handle a simple predictable fractal. When my guild mates and I won’t be able to get them.

Most PvPers have 0 interest in fractals and it’s no surprise they have no idea what they’re doing half the time in fracs

Even if there is a correlation between PvP skill and fractals, you know that the wings are obtainable without being even past Diamond over multiple seasons right?

Back on topic: I feel like they change the queue thing again, I was T4 x1 legend and had 45 min queues without pop for past few weeks but tonight I got a few games with/vs diamond players after 10 mins. I even got a game where we had a full legend stack with some pro league and prestige 16 player vs diamonds. Gonna be hell to get to legend now compared to before lol

Free XFers don’t work and HoD historically showed that. T1 never destacked to move to HoD for free tourney win, it was always the other servers in lower tiers that shuffled into HoD to stack it big.

There is no incentive to leave T1 unless your entire guild moves off and you like them more than the server. Or you hate the queues (which once again, are almost non existent again).

Instead of trying to destack T1, they should get more people into WvW so that T2/3 are also T1 competitive. T1 is basically the last place with somewhat 24/7 WvW action on NA and trying to gut that seems like a poorly thought idea.

460-350 is diff from 350-0 lol. Like I said, it’s situational.

Oh you mention ranked, well I never AFK ranked but I AFK unranked if it’s a lost cause by far. Ranked I always try since I know people care about their pips and wins. Unranked? Nahhhhhhhhh.