Guild Wars 2

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Good joke. How about you go and understand how OCX/SEA works before you complain and make yourself look like a fool. The fact that your ‘research’ into GW2 China was so insanely incorrect just shows how inept you are.

I wonder how the system would consider servers like BG that sometimes goes into #hibergate mode.

For example the late NA commanders might just finish up early (within the 6 hours gap) and just leave all the maps dead from PST all the way till SEA or even longer if SEA decides they wanna scrim/GvG instead and nobody pugmands. It’d just be a wasteland with nobody playing but still have somewhat competitive scoring? That really can’t be fun for us or our opponents.

Also, awarding more points to capping upgraded objectives just incentivizes people to let the enemy upgrade everything off hours and go hard during the 6 hours in NA. There’d be little incentive to go and cut supply routes to prevent upgrades and kill a lot of the roaming fights.

Definitely feels nerfed and seeing KING’s data just backs up that feeling.

Most days I get nothing but potions and the occasional 1 ecto or 1 mystic coin which granted are better than nothing but it still feelsbadman.

reikken.4961:

revenant is fine
brings massive breakbar utility, useful boons, party ferocity bonus, and decent dps (similar to engi/necro/guardian, higher than warrior, lower than ele/thief)
I don’t see the problem

Warrior has lower DPS than rev? I thought even PS war out dps’d the rev nowadays.

I agree tho rev is pretty strong utility-wise and just because it’s not in the high level raid comps doesn’t mean it’s a bad class or needs buffing.

I’m kinda worried that as a non prime time player there will be reduced WvW activity since our contribution won’t be as important. Right now on BG and TC/DB people come out to fight because there’s people everywhere and stuff actually matters (eg. TC will defend their garri in SEA, even if it means overtime by their EU).

If the scoring changes are implemented, I worry that people will just go ‘oh this isn’t really my timezone i will just stay in PvE or continue sleeping’ so there’s nothing to do in WvW which was actually what happens and hence the term #hibergate.

If the scores are going to be similar regardless of the commander(s) playing 12 hours or 2 hours they’re probably going to play 2 hours? The last thing right now is to make people want to play LESS WvW -_-

Another problem is, at the end of the day we want to fight people (as non prime time players) which is why we all move up to tier 1/2. Currently the glicko system and coverage system works somewhat to distribute servers across tiers with suitable opponent coverage. If for example, BG had YB and Maguuma for opponents, all the OCX/SEA players on BG would have nobody to fight even if the scores are close which just kills WvW for us non prime players.

EremiteAngel.9765:

you know what I find funny, when we are losing, and getting crushed during OCX/SEA hours, it isn’t the Alliance who moved from YB leading us.

It is our old loyal TC guilds who remained who is leading us. HIRE led by Inori Cross and White Lotus led by Kinbear.

They are leading us in our darkest hours.

WL/HIRE defs giving us OCX players a lot of fights/fun. Props to fighting and not 100% nuthugging siege liek YB did in T1 and running away like SoX all day every day.

- casul BG #pug

Yeah i’m not really seeing a point here at all. Talking about what you did in other games has zero relationship to anything in GW2 because we honestly don’t care if you were some pro raider or some causal.

Plenty of us have fun raiding in GW2 with zero toxicity involved. I’ve probably met like 2 out of 200+ people that I would consider toxic and that percentage is far higher in sPvP and far lower than what people seem to suggest.

Also, I don’t know about the others here but I don’t care what you think or don’t think about me in GW2. You’re literally some dude I don’t know or care about in game and even here on forums you’re just some dude I’m replying to. Likewise, I’m nobody to you and that’s fine.

These things have no bearing on whether you raid or not in GW2 and to blame these things is such a defeatist attitude.

Should really just put all the americans on EU servers since you’re all like white anyway mate.

The recipes are only for the Precursors (in this case, Zap).

For bolt you need the 2 Gifts associated with it and Gift of Fortune + Precursor and forge them.

Type /wiki Bolt

I’m not sure what your point is. One skilled player isn’t enough to carry the molten drill thing. You need the 2 people on the plates to not be terrible and dying or if they’re smart give aegis to the door opener then hop off but I’ve never seen pugs do this.

This is probably the worst example of everybody is engaged but anyone can shine. What is there to shine? If the other 4 suck and die there’s nothing you can do solo but respawn and redo the whole thing. This is basically the same “problem” with raids is it not?

That’s funny because it’s how I feel about open world meta events. I’m basically doing everything while other scrublords just 111111 and they still die/down so I don’t do them anymore.

Raids however, I can do my part and make up for other people’s fails like pulling ads at gors if the mesmer missed the furthest one using DH F1 or giving people aegis for gors slam or going up to kill cannons at sabetha if someone else couldn’t make it etc.

Most raiders have the mentality to improve. They want to get better, not worse. Nobody looks at the group and goes “i’m not the worst so I’m gucci”. That’s not how raiders think. That’s not how PvPers think. That’s scrub mentality.

Yeahhhh BG just flipped all of db bl, even their T3 garri. Such 2v1 bruh.

caljay.8720:

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That’s like 3 SoX what you on about mate /s

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/4ebntq/massive_war_in_tier_2_the_rebellion_needs_you/?ref=search_posts

Dhorghar.5249:

All these comments from people that have yet to beat a boss about how raids are not great because the mechanics are easy, and that the true skilled players are those in pvp are nothing more than weak attempts at trying to compensate for their lack of success in raids. Some just feel the need to diminish someone else’s accomplishments and the overall success of raids. It makes them feel a bit better, sadly.

They obviously won’t admit this, that would hurt their self-esteem. They’ll blame the elitism or something else instead and talk about how rude and obnoxious raiders are. Welp, guess what, we all have met bad apples in game but that didn’t deter us from doing raids.
Also, truth is that nothing is so black or white; for every player that has had a bad experience in raids there are others who are enjoying them.

It’s funny because half my raid group are legendary PvPers and every legendary PvPer I know has done / cleared raids, at least as far as they want to. Some of them don’t really like PvE at all so they stopped after a few raids.

This basically sounds the bigotry I regular hear in WvW about “bad PvE players” being rallybots when in fact raiders/hardcore PvErs are more likely to run proper builds/get food and play well. All just to stroke their egos ayyy lmao.

It’s cute you’re trying to defend Unranked as a good system after those hilarious Heselth videos which showed otherwise.

I mean I don’t even like Helseth but man had a point and here you guys are trying to argue with hyperboles and petty insults to justify your obviously wrong viewpoints.

So you have no proof but he said she said. Gotcha.

I’ll wait while you dig up this mythical never played PvP before but got carried to legendary person you speak of.

You’d be posting proof if you had any.

It’s more real than your claims of "completely new players who never stepped foot in pvp and had no idea how to play it made it to legendary last season simply because they were lucky enough to get put on the team with mostly experienced players ".

I’ve heard that story before but I’ve never seen any proof. Whereas the unranked stuff I mentioned is what actually happens to a fair few of us.

Ellie.5913:

Umm what you just said makes absolutely no sense & sounded very silly so I’m not even gonna respond >.< But if you do want easier wins where you don’t have to try that much wait for ranked it’ll be back soon.

It’s just as silly as your Unranked is fair, because I just described unranked.

Unranked favors bad players since they get carried.

How is that fair? The better players have to try that much harder to carry the rest of the team. That’s like the game punishing you for being good.

“Oh you’re a good player, here you go have 4 useless allies and now carry them! Make sure you rotate furiously, kill everybody and secure all 3 nodes yourself!”

You’re basically encouraging MMR tanking so that you can get wins by letting other people carry you

- Desert has too much stuff like shrines etc, all PvE mechanics that don’t really belong in WvW

- Desert north towers and even the south ones are unstrategic, there’s barely any reason to defend those side towers since they can’t treb garri.

- Desert has a lot of vertical distance which makes navigation a chore

Personally I don’t think DBL was that bad if they fixed all the above I mentioned, I liked the map overall after they applied the bunch of fixes reducing travel time.

You entirely miss the point of what everybody wrote here and shifted the complaint to the system of Season 2 which most people agree is not perfect.

Unranked pits you entirely random people to mash up the MMR evenly on both sides and gives people varying quality of players which isn’t fun for good players or bad players.

It can’t be fun being a non-factor in the match and it can’t be fun hard carrying 4 other people who are worse than you.

A good system would be to put 5 similar skilled players together and have them fight 5 similar skilled players. That would make the wins feel worthwhile and nobody in the teams would feel like they got carried or carried because everyone is of similar skill level.

Just because Ranked S2 matchmaking was bad doesn’t make unranked matchmaking GOOD. Please understand this.

You will find that most off hour players on NA don’t care about the score and just want people to play with/against. That’s why they generally move up to the higher tiers because there’s more action and nobody moves to T8 (or current T4) to PvDoor.

As long as scoring manages to group together servers with off hours coverage (eg. OCX→OCX and SEA→SEA; and not OCX→EU pvdooring each other) I’m happy. Fighting nothing is boringggggg.

You guys can have all the ppt you want as long as we get fights.

Nobody said close competitive matches are bad. Unranked doesn’t offer competitive matches though, you could be teamed with ESL players or total newbs because of the way the matchmaking system works.

For some people it’s like fighting 4 NPCs and 1 player while having 4 NPCs yourself. That’s not fun or competitive. The quality of team mates and enemies vary far too greatly to be of any fun.

Season 2 ranked had its own share of problems but so does unranked.

Just keeping them until they add new stuff to buy, hoarding has always been good in gw2 lol

That 17 hour dominance is pretty much a joke. Look at T3 right now with #magswag dominating once OCX is over (aka when Mag wakes up).

OCX cannot and does not carry a server alone, or SoS would be T1 since ages ago.

If they made OCX/SEA servers I’d move instantly, I just want to fight other people in these timezones not look at the shiny pepeteeeee.

Let’s face it, even if PPT is competitive the fights are absolutely trash if the server doesn’t have OCX/SEA. Mag/YB are both terrible opponents for OCX/SEA players since they have nothing during those 2 timezones and just make up all the PPT with strong NA/EU presence. So what if the score is even? It’s not fun. I imagine Mag think it’s bad too, YB loves it though, PvD is in their blood.

Never seen YB fight at all except for Me and BOO. Everybody else on YB is faceroll 1 push joke really. I played reset to see how it was and DOC/FoW basically fed bags for 6 hours straight on YB BL this week, what a joke of a server.

Just add any good players you meet along the way and try to run with them when you can. That’s how I met all the good players I know, played with them through other friends/pugs and eventually became friends with them.

Muntedface made BG great again.

You really just need new friends then. Whenever I sub for a friend’s raid I ask what they need and it’s usually just DPS or Condi and they don’t care what class I bring as long as I do my job properly (which I do).

I’m sure with so many people playin GW2, there are people out there who share a similar mindset.

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I don’t disagree with you there. NA prime definitely suffers on JQ compared to T2 and this has been a longstanding issue on servers with OCX/SEA coverage such as DB, SoS, JQ. This server linking would be better if they didn’t link IoJ but another server with heavy NA population.

Pretty much all servers have had reduced population since a year ago, even BG.

If that’s your justification for a server dying then all 24 servers are dying.

Pretty much all “damage builds” have CC though. Whether or not you use them is another story. I’m definitely in the #3 too lazy/don’t care camp when it comes to big boss CCs.

Gimli.9461:

I have to say that after I started raiding my rotations/builds have improved drastically so t4 fractals aren’t a problem now

So if you’re having a lot of trouble you want to look up raid builds and try those out. Check out qT benchmarks on reddit, go into that golem test room check your dps.

For snowblind good party comp is important (I run dragon hunter for the icy part for reclects /pulls) and I think for end boss if you have a condi Viper class fully geared you’ll kill him much faster than if you bring all power classes

Problem isn’t really my own stuff though. I pugged T4 snowblind yesterday we had a p/p thief with 4 signets. I didn’t want to be a filthy elitist and kick but we wiped for 25 minutes on the first bit and yeah :/. Once we took another dude who wasn’t totally trash we cleared it easily.

Most people seem to have the swamps of the mists mindset and refuse to do anything that improves their game play or change their build. I asked people to food up/ oil up and take some utils for projectile block but the thief just ignored me and kept his 4 signet p/p =_=

/salt

edit: Oh and the final fight is easy it’s just super freakin long/boring because he has a lot of health. Reworking it to make it harder and not just HP sponging would be nice

JQ is pretty much the only server BG is fighting during OCX/SEA though, sure they might be weaker during NA prime but that’s hardly dead server.

If anything, YB is dead since they have nobody on now that they can’t ktrain whereas JQ has come out swinging with guilds like WvW/FUG/FOO/SoX bringing the fights.

JQ/IoJ definitely needs more NA players/guilds but YB literally has NOTHING for 2 timezones unless it’s a karma train and make up their PPT pvdooring EU. Still losing to JQ even as we speak.

That silverwastes blue oasis CC myth was busted over a year ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2r0ihb/champion_mordrem_thrasher_platinum_research/

CC doesn’t do anything bad or good to the thing. Please don’t spread misinformation.

I haven’t heard of any raiding guild that can’t kill any boss, even the training ones manage to down VG time to time.

Unless you mean WvW raiding guilds then yeahhhh maybe. Cuz they’ve never been inside SV/SP.

Unranked is great as a muck around have some fun type of thing but it isn’t competitive. It’s basically hotjoin.

Rather than trying to fix Unranked (which is mostly fine as an alternative), reopen ranked or something similar to allow for the competitive players to play. Maybe use the division from league to consider their teams/opponents.

Weekends are guild mission days for most guilds I know. The current reset avoids that problem and staggers the time between WvW reset, guild missions and raid reset which is perfect.

I pugged it and finished in under 20 min even with like 4-5 deaths. Come on it’s not that bad for a final tier fractal.

I’m even playing on NA where ‘the players are probably worse on average’.

You need to turn auto loot on in options.

Just unlocking the mastery doesn’t turn it on.

Autoloot: Autopickup I believe is the option.

This is already pretty good. By letting people get 2nd tier food for cheap, the price for the top tier food will probably drop too since a lot of people will deem 2nd tier as ‘good enough’.

Overall with the added reward track(s) and this provisioner thing, it’s a good direction in terms of rebalancing the costs of the WvW.

I think it’s fine that the BiS food / oil is still only for purchase with gold, for those who want to seriously min max rather than having an entirely same playing field like spvp.

Sup siege will be added a later date according to AMA on reddit.

My solo q times before they removed glory was never as bad as ranked now. Sure they were a bit longer than unranked but unranked is basically a cesspool of filth.

I’ve had experiences with “that guy” as a diamond trying to break into legendary. It happens time to time but it’s fully overblown out of proportion, the majority do NOT throw games like this because you have to actually WIN to get the class wins.

So no, the benefits do not outweigh the increased queue times.

No it’s not fair at all and this is unranked btw so people posting about this league system please read lmao.

I’d rather fight stupid legends with or against than having to wait any longer than my 20 min queues. I mean sure it’s great to have a super competitive match where everyone tries but I don’t want to wait in queue for over half an hour to get one game, that’s just stupid.

This season I’ve had regular 8-20 minute queues in high diamond/legend. How is this fun? I wasted more time in queue this season than playing the actual game.

Which is why I stopped short of legend x2, it just wasn’t worth queue times.