it was originally 25% at the release of the game and got nerfed to that kitten 15%.
20% is fine, especially with the rework.
stop complaining when most classes are part of the power creep.
This has been the first buff warrior has had in almost 2 years, we needed it.
WTF are you talking about – it was never 25% increase. It was 3/6/9% at Adept tier trait pre-June 2013.
June 23, 2015 – Patch #3
Professions
Warrior
Berserker’s Power: You are now required to hit with the burst skill. This will trigger in the same way as the trait Cleansing Ire.
June 23, 2015
Balance, Bug-fixing, Polish
Warrior
Traits
Strength Minor
Berserker’s Power: Gain a 10%, 15%, or 20% damage boost for 10 seconds after using a burst skill based on how much adrenaline was spent.
23 July 2013
Balance, Bug-Fixing, Polish
Profession Skills
Warrior
Berserker’s Power: This trait now applies the appropriate damage increase per adrenaline level.
25 June 2013
Balance, Bug-Fixing, Polish
Profession Skills
Warrior
Strength
Berserker’s Power: This trait has been moved to the Grandmaster tier. Damage bonus has been increased to 5%, 10%, and 15% based on adrenaline level.
brobrobro, 9% is for heightened focus, 12% for zerker power
And that has nothing to do with th actual topic because:
1. Mobility for backcapping
Wasn’t nerfed and the #1 reason why thieves are taken over other classes.
2. Mobility for +1ing
As i said, mobility wasn’t nerfed.
3. Dmg for +1ing
The damage, especially if going 11001, was increased by a lot.
Which doesnt have anything to do with actual balance, as thieves are forced into being really bursty right now (SA’s healing capacity is limited in PvP due to the fact you generally don’t want to stay in stealth for too long)
So thanks for a reply that didn’t have anything to do with the actual balance changes to thief kthxbye
thanks, you said it yourself, these are the things considered in the balance, if you balance on top of all that, theres no balance
Thieves are in top teams for this reason.
Actually, Mesmer do everything (and more) that Thieves do:
Dmg and Burst, ranged though
Boon remove (random but also a 4x daze on F3)
Add portal and more Traits being made baseline and bam.
The only thing Thief is better at atm is Mobility, so you call balance removing some dmg and mobility? So that Mesmer gets into Meta over Thief?
Well then…
Also you seem to have missed one thing i wrote: thieves are forced into being really bursty
So they dont have any actual defenses (especially not against AoE) apart from Shadow Step which is on a 50-60s CD
Which imo makes it pretty balanced?
and you still need a thief to keep the mesmer in check..
this argument can literally be used against 80% of the elites in game
Indeed, but we’re discussing Rampage in this thread ;-)
Warriors should ask themselves if they want:
-> superior Rampage while being inferior when it’s on CD;
or
-> good and balanced profession that can do fine with Rampage or any other Elite Skill
tbh, first option also sounds good, so it actually takes skill to be worthy out side of rampage. and still have a use in the team.
what’s not so good right now, is they are able to chain shield block with- CD and endure pain and wait for rampage off CD, so if they move shield mastery to master trait and move armored attack to adept, it would be more work for warrior to wait for CD which will justify the rampage usefulness.
and second option, a good balanced zerker warrior does not exist, unless they give them blink and stealth..
Third, you are asking for nerf for all classes, why? been a ranger sucks?
Not that I’ve written few posts above: No. You need a Warrior to be worthy to pick without Elite.
Elite should be just cherry on top of balanced and useful class on it’s own. Elites shouldn’t be super strong, but should bring some interesting options.
this argument can literally be used against 80% of the elites in game
I think this trait is actually more “A must have” trait than cleasing ire.
Absolutely OP.
This trait will force all warriors choose Strength line : so decrease Build diversity.
lol why would you nerf something was already nerf? do you even know how that trait worked before? I was a perma 20% buff with 3 bars and now only works for 10 sec after using a burts and IF it hits.
it was 5/10/15% before. using one burst for every 10sec isn’t really nerf cuz you can use burst for every 5 sec whenever you swap. With longbow it is likely perma. So the duration time isn’t nerf. The prpblem is 5% higher, which is too much buff. I havent seen a war without this trait since patch.
just because everyone is using one trait = nerf, lol i guess we will nerf 70% of the stuff in game.
And that has nothing to do with th actual topic because:
1. Mobility for backcapping
Wasn’t nerfed and the #1 reason why thieves are taken over other classes.
2. Mobility for +1ing
As i said, mobility wasn’t nerfed.
3. Dmg for +1ing
The damage, especially if going 11001, was increased by a lot.
Which doesnt have anything to do with actual balance, as thieves are forced into being really bursty right now (SA’s healing capacity is limited in PvP due to the fact you generally don’t want to stay in stealth for too long)
So thanks for a reply that didn’t have anything to do with the actual balance changes to thief kthxbye
thanks, you said it yourself, these are the things considered in the balance, if you balance on top of all that, theres no balance
Radioactive’s team also have pretty obvious counter with 2 rampage war.
people just still haven’t gotten used to the new meta yet.
and i don’t think this is the best set up.
Obviously it’s not. The best set up is 4 rampage warriors and bunker guard for diversity, jeez.
Obviously it’s not, the best set up is 3 rampage warriors and 2 DF eles, cuz abjured+radioactive=winning?
christ.
Radioactive’s team also have pretty obvious counter with 2 rampage war.
people just still haven’t gotten used to the new meta yet.
and i don’t think this is the best set up.
You see, Before back in early 2013, warrior was the worse class in PvP, nobody want to play it, no good warrior can find a team.
Reason because, it can not survive
any one can kit warrior till warrior is dead, until they gave warrior healing signet, so people can’t simply kit and still have enough damage to kill warrior.
now damage is over the top, people can just run away and still kill warrior now just like back in 2013.
They take 50% of your HP (if you zerk enough) with 2 buttons which can be executed in like every 10~ seconds.
All they have to do is stealth, and click two button, stealth again.
or they can just insta stun you and click two buttons as well.
if you are lucky enough to actually predict the stealth burst and countered, they can do this forever until you are dead.
unless you actually proc quickness and fast kill them before they react.
if you are dps war, you have to spam quickness, this is the new way of zerk war
Now you know what they felt like all the times we caught them in stealth with bullrush and one shot them with 100b.
Hmm what? you are comparing something that is completely skill based, counter able and easy to dodge to stealth burst…
They take 50% of your HP (if you zerk enough) with 2 buttons which can be executed in like every 10~ seconds.
All they have to do is stealth, and click two button, stealth again.
or they can just insta stun you and click two buttons as well.
if you are lucky enough to actually predict the stealth burst and countered, they can do this forever until you are dead.
unless you actually proc quickness and fast kill them before they react.
if you are dps war, you have to spam quickness, this is the new way of zerk war
No way..thats way too strong.Turn into rampage and strip people from all boons?
No, first of all, you only stripe when you interrupt
which means, can not stripe stab, cuz can not interrupt
second, unless you are extremly pro and time every single telegraphed CC so perfectly, then sure.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but we also don’t know the Revenant’s elite spec yet? Might be they get the warhorn.
Dear god, I hope they do ._. I have a brand new flaming sword in my bank vault for my ele, which I will have no need for if they get warhorn. So I might just throw it at someone. Maybe.
I mean, come on, we are so far the only class without a dedicated melee weapon (as in, normal weapon, not conjured ones). Not cool.
revenant is shield,
it’s pretty easy to tell from the shield skin, because it’s the dragon’s wing, glint?
Please don’t make crack shot compete with Brawler’s recovery
You want to know why rifle isnt viable?
Other classes can out put full adnrealine killshot damage with the same amount of button clicked, faster, more reliable, no adrenaline needed and low cooldown as well.
Thieves and mesmers have been a pain to deal with post patch. What hasn’t changed is that having more than one Mesmer or thief in your team still sucks no matter how OP they are.
when we had 2 mesmer (including me) we just one shot everyone and nobody can do anything?…
I can’t answer your question because I wasn’t there.
But I’m glad that you are proud of one shotting people, probably out of stealth.
I wasn’t complaining about them being too OP, in fact just the opposite. Having more than one thief or Mesmer becomes a huge burden for the rest of team.
you can put 2 Ele’s, 2 Necro’s, 2 warriors or even 2 thieves in the same situation. & end result will be murder.
Lol, no. Thieves and mesmers are terrible when stacked in a team. It was that way pre patch and now.
lol no, you couldnt stack thieves and mesmers because they are incredible squishy, now mesmer can actually serve while doing way over the top damage to compensate.
i would now actually like to see 2 mesmers when i soloq.
Thieves and mesmers have been a pain to deal with post patch. What hasn’t changed is that having more than one Mesmer or thief in your team still sucks no matter how OP they are.
when we had 2 mesmer (including me) we just one shot everyone and nobody can do anything?…
why do you guys still play warrior?
if you want condi just go another class, it will be 10x easier with 10x result
Cause we play the class we like and not FOTM.
If getting reckt while putting way more effort is what you like, then go ahead.
Anet will end up nerfing the OP FOTM builds. In the mean time I’m perfecting my skills and when they are done balancing everything out I will be wrecking all the FOTM hoppers cause they haven’t learned how to play and only rely the OPness to carry them.
It’s not about FoTM builds, it’s about warrior’s core functionality that will never be viable as a DPS.
Mesmer before was no where close to amazing, yet it was viable because of their core function, now with DPS buff they just become god.
now back to warrior, with DPS buff, you still suck for the exact same reason,
nothing changed nothing new
