Guild Wars 2

even without the nerf, zerker war is still too weak to be played.
takes way too much effort for almost no result

Any one enlighten me,
how can a DPS war be viable anymore…
i’m not just talking about Berserker or Marauder, but also PTV, Power based and Condi based.

How can they be viable at all?

Anyone enlighten me

brb to my mesmer while some one typing.

I quit zerker war, simple as that, im going to my sub main mesmer now.

one shot any zerker war in stealth, no counter play

This meta is good, except you have class like mesmer and thief one shoting people left and right with close to no tell.

Mesmer one shoting everyone except thief with vamprism

LOL, just click insta cast ranged CC and watch people get one shot

Give Us The True Berserker Spec!

We Have To Show Them Who Is The Real Berserker!

Hahahahaha.

Im talking about PvP guys, you can run almost anything in PvE…

and if anybody saying anything about berserker war being bad, PLEASE, assume we are talking about PvP, like literally. right away.

Try look at the other line

According to the weapons, i guess it will be torch….

i hoped for dagger..

Personally, i still haven’t figure out how hambow is coming back.
any dev who said it mind give me an insight?

Im buying the xPac now

bladex.9502:

lighter.2708:

high damage doesnt matter

Before the patch warrior already did way more damage then almost every one in PvP.
you will soon find out that zerker warrior still sucking for the same reason
after the patch, everyone’s damage got buffed, including warrior and thats it

Berserkers gear is so bad, PHIW, QQ.
If you like to play in full Clerics gear, that’s perfectly fine, but I can assure you berserkers gear is far from “sucking”

Just let you know we are talking about PvP here
it’s no problem, new players often make this mistake without incredibly clear indication. /sarcasm

high damage doesnt matter

Before the patch warrior already did way more damage then almost every one in PvP.
you will soon find out that zerker warrior still sucking for the same reason
after the patch, everyone’s damage got buffed, including warrior and thats it

It sucks, amazing damage, yet still sucking like before.

it was never about the damage why zerker war sucked in the first place anyway.
zerker war already did amazing amount of damage pre patch anyway

going on my mesmer and see what happens now.

You think it was possible for warrior to run any amulet that doesnt have vital before the patch?
nop, HP pool doesnt mean anything.

Zerker war had Vit, PTV had Vit, Cele had Vit, all had Vit.

It’s not about the HP pool, it’s about the utilities

Already give 30 adrenaline, and give 5 extra from trait wasted?

? it says 1560 on my shoutbow

66006

Signet Mastery is so OP.
Heightened Focus is amazing and procs with rampage.
on top of berserker power
literally the scariest stat a zerker warrior has ever been LOL

and you have resistance for condi bomb.

the damage is off the chart
it’s so scary LOL

…its on the expansion, my dearest game mate

WTH really? this is awesome, i have a few useless ascended box :p

Kageseigi.2150:

Elementalist: “Nerf stealth”
Engineer: “Nerf stealth”
Guardian: “Nerf stealth”
Necromancer: “Nerf stealth”
Ranger: “Nerf stealth”
Warrior: “Nerf stealth”

Mesmer: “Nerf Thief”

Thief: “Roll a thief and see how difficult it is… oh, and nerf Shoutbow/Medi-guard” ;-P

Thief who actually played other classes :" Nerf stealth"

maha.7902:

lighter.2708:

Purple Miku.7032:

lighter.2708:

Anything works in PvE, i don’t think you should worry too much about that

The same can be said about PvP and WvW.

You can literally completely every single part of the PvE content with any build you would like to.

can not say the same to PvP and WvW

you can roam in wvw with whatever build you want. you can zerg with whatever build you want. you can hotjoin with whatever build you want, you can solo queue with whatever build you want.

so yeah, you can.

you literally just talked about 66% of the content in PvP and call it 100%?
and no, you can’t run any build you want in soloq, unless loosing means success in your book

Purple Miku.7032:

lighter.2708:

Anything works in PvE, i don’t think you should worry too much about that

The same can be said about PvP and WvW.

You can literally completely every single part of the PvE content with any build you would like to.

can not say the same to PvP and WvW

Azure The Heartless.3261:

lighter.2708:

Kal Spiro.9745:

It’s a prepurchase bonus. When the game is released it will just be the expansion. Pre-purchase isn’t about being fair. It’s about giving bonuses. If you don’t like it then wait until the game is released and everything will be “fair” again.

a prepurchase bonus which only applies to new player? much market such wow

ISPS do it all the time with their service bundles.

except they also have good discount for old users, kaboom, ever thought of that?

josh doesn’t know.. he’s not the designer..

you guys are right, please put legendary in gem store and only buyable with dollars please, everyone in this thread agree its a good thing to do

while at it, can you also add ascended items in the gem store, please, its thr same as legs and you have to “earn monry to run the game” right?

im sure with all these positive responses anet will soon implement this service in na just like they did with level system~ awesome cant wait~

Kal Spiro.9745:

It’s a prepurchase bonus. When the game is released it will just be the expansion. Pre-purchase isn’t about being fair. It’s about giving bonuses. If you don’t like it then wait until the game is released and everything will be “fair” again.

a prepurchase bonus which only applies to new player? much market such wow

Meanwhile in Warrior land, no designer ever posted, ever

for money, its not from another player but game generates it and give it to player

A side from the “seems like you are paying again” strategy fail.
it’s still pretty fail that you can’t get a core game key just because you already own it while others can.
like seriously, why they can get a core game key for free for purchasing the exp and we can’t?..what makes us so different, it’s like we are limited and inferior for buying the game early or something, what? i don’t understand the strategy here

A side from the “seems like you are paying again” strategy fail.
it’s still pretty fail that you can’t get a core game key just because you already own it while others can.

like seriously, why they can get a core game key for free for purchasing the exp and we can’t?..what makes us so different, it feels like we are limited and they are superior

chemiclord.3978:

lighter.2708:

You are still measuring with duration. hundred of hours of video gaming can not be equal to go on a romantic vacation with your beloved one for one week in a beautiful foreign country, it’s simple as that, if you are just satisfied with the duration then you have no idea how to value your money worth.

I could also buy some good games, which i already know they are good on steam sales and still have hundred hours of gaming experience then some thing i’m not even sure if it’s worthy.

and yea, just because you liked a game, doesnt mean the next game will be good.

Well, of course I’m measuring it by duration. There kinda comes a point where if I’ve spent THAT much time with something, that I obviously like it and feel it’s of a quality I am comfortable with and feel I’m getting my money’s worth. If I didn’t… why would I still be doing it over such a long duration?

Since when we are arguing about the core game?

chemiclord.3978:

lighter.2708:

By your logic everyone should be happy about monthly fee, yet it’s a dying business model.

and btw you don’t value an entertainment on duration, you value an entertainment on quanlity

I dunno, personally if I’ve dropped 1500 hours on something over the course of three years, I better kitten well think it’s quality. I’m not sure why I’d invest that much of my time into something I think sucks.

Maybe there’s a lot of people who hate themselves?

You are still measuring with duration. hundred of hours of video gaming can not be equal to go on a romantic vacation with your beloved one for one week in a beautiful foreign country, it’s simple as that, if you are just satisfied with the duration then you have no idea how to value your money worth.

I could also buy some good games, which i already know they are good on steam sales and still have hundred hours of gaming experience then some thing i’m not even sure if it’s worthy.

and yea, just because you liked a game, doesnt mean the next game will be good.

eyestrain.3056:

Found this floating around.

lol i was thinking about this

By your logic everyone should be happy about monthly fee, yet it’s a dying business model.

and btw you don’t value an entertainment on duration, you value an entertainment on quality

I don’t understand how you can’t see the reason behind the complains.
They are old players, they had 3 years of entertainment, sure, but they also supported the game for 3 years, there are people who sent hundreds if not thousands of dollars in gem.

They can at least expect to be treated equally as the new comers, but not worse….

and there are also players who bought this game not long ago, because Anet clearly indicated that you need to buy the core game to buy the expansion, says woodenpotato, and now you basically get it for free and for who ever bought the game hearing that you need to buy the core game to buy expansion are screwed, which is a new low in business standard

it’s just fail business practice and a lose-lose result even tho the intention is to do good, but it got directed in the wrong direction

Welcome to the internet, my friend

nightblood.7910:

lighter.2708:

Good thieves have being playing 26006 S/D in duels and doing completely good.
not sure how this nerf would do a lot except for bad thieves who just spam dodges, 6 in acrobat still gives more dodge then others and they are nerfing dodging for all by nerfing vigor.

A lot of people refer to balance in terms of duels and I never really understand why as in any game mode landing a 1v1 is pretty rare and I thank the MMO gods for it when it happens.

Most of the time, youre in team fights whether PvP or WvW unless you are specifically dueling with the purpose of dueling. This is where this hurts is in team fights where there is a ton of crap being laid down from engies or any aoe class and you are fighting other stuff and you need those dodges. Thieves dont have anything but stealth and dodge really for defense. Yeah the few times you get to 1v1 you should still be good, but thats really not the majority of my fights.

I just dont see how you can measure balance in terms of duels in this game. I mean it would be right for them to at least make that skill 100% more effective bringing to its current state as its vital to thief defense.

former acro has way too much sustain in 5v5 for the damage it outputs anyway, even tho it’s not as much as d/p, but the survive/damage ratio is way too high.

Anything works in PvE, i don’t think you should worry too much about that

Josh is not the one who balances classes so(i think), he’s just telling us what he knows

now i remember there’s other games that give bonus to return or new players, but they don’t tell anyone else, only these players by email

this could work too

beside the, make the expansion alone for 50$ and bundle the game and expansion for a higher price.

Mending was not viable even with the old restorative strength.
not sure how it would be viable with no changes and with the new restorative strength which only gives 5 might, but we will see.

i’m kinda hyped about the new signet and surge tho

Josh Davis.6015:

I mentioned Healing Surge in the other thread. It’s been renamed to “To the Limit” and is categorized as a shout. It also gives a flat 25 endurance to yourself and nearby allies (600 radius).

Healing Signet now gives 6 seconds of Resistance on activation.

That’s nice to hear, but still, what about the physical skilsl :oqq

Josh Davis.6015:

What is the question? Mending is not skill grouped and has no changes, as far as I can tell. Zerker stance did not get converted to resistance for 6/23 (still on the table, but hasn’t been decided yet).

What about Healing Surge? No changes i assume as well?
Healing Signet?

What about Physical skills, which right now we get 100% damage increase 100% of the time with trait.
but after the patch, it will be only 30% with full adrenaline, you sure have done anything to those already not viable at all Physical skills right?

Completely agree, i can see pass through it as the expansion will be causing 50$ anyway and my main concern is about whether the expansion worth 50$.

but it’s just a new low for Anet, a lose-lose one and a completely preventable one too,

First of all it’s two seperate problem.
One is that expansion comes with free core game.
first, there are people who bought this game not long ago, because anet have being telling people that they will need to purchase the core game to purchase the expansion
second, new players are getting more value out of their money then old players
third, mental illusion? if they didn’t give free core game, but sell core game + expansion for 5-10$ dollars extra, nobody would be complaining, just like nobody were complaining when they selling core game for 10$. people actually willing to pay that much for core game because it’s cheap and anet make more money and no one QQ.

Some will look through it, some will not, but for those who will not, they do have every reason to complain about it, because marketing team failed it’s job? not sure if it is intended.

Second problem, the value within the expansion
Many people question the actually value behold the expansion, we know literally “nothing” about the expansion, people are questioning whether or not it actually worth 50$.

Maladon.5760:

Kaiyanwan.8521:

Maladon.5760:

You guys should stop playing video games and get better jobs

This is not about money, this is mainly about value. There is a difference.
If you have grown up in a very consumer heavy society like North America, throwing money at over-prized stuff is part of your daily life. The value of a product is secondary as long as it is the up-to-date “thing”.

In other societies the value of a product consists of both, the cost and the degree of satisfaction in regards of expectations. $50 here is a dinner for two, $100 if you want something better than pizza. Even though you could say that is fairly expensive, together with the experience I see enough value to pay for the experience.
I don’t care about the prize tag, as long as I see the proper value in the product.

Which right now I see not in GW2:HoT, and neither does my wife. Two less buyers of the expansion for now.

Value is subjective. Fifty dollars is nothing to an adult. For example…A man with a wife and three kids wants a burger for dinner. He ends up paying about $50 to eat his burger. If he wants an ice cream cone it will cost him around 10-15 dollars. Fifty dollars is nothing.

Please, are you even an adult? An real adult who works would value his money real carefully.
When i was a kid, i also believe adults would have easier time buying random stuff, but it’s not true unless you have no social life at all, or no familly, at least not with 3 kids lol.

briggah.7910:

Val.8265:

We did get something, the lower end of the stick.

Because we bought the game in 2012.

Because we supported them for 3 years.

Because we spend additional money with gems.

Because of us, they have the chance to make an expansion.

And because of that, we pay more for less value.

Ye, being a loyal player feels good.

Were you forced to purchased things with gems? No that was your choice.

No, we purchased things to support, not to get ripped off in the end.

then it’s even more BS