Guild Wars 2

Well I just like the exalted one

3v3 would be very nice

Deathmatch 10v10 in my opinion would Force even more tanky spec. I would prefere something like capture the flag, where mobility and dps could be more relevant.

I hope in a 22% buff to shatterstone

FrownyClown.8402:

Ulion.5476:

He is not using water but earth in his build. Since it decreases the cd of his defensive abilities with focus. Mainly using that and lightning flash for survival. Focus eles tend to use build without water. The average ele just uses the tanky meta builds.

yeah noticed he had the build on his youtube. he is certainly good though. i gotta craft a full murauder set.

Wich runes he his running?

FrownyClown.8402:

yeah. the movers took my computer so probably not until september. ill be sure to record some fights then and post it here.

Thanks really much.

FrownyClown.8402:

the guy is good for sure, but all i can say is air overload op. an average ele with the right stats can do the same thing with a good understanding of scepter

Can you link a video of your wvw roaming with sf fresh air?

In pvp the only stat come from the amulet in the pvp build panel

I don’t get what you mean for pvp set.
There is a panel in wich you can select amulets, sigils and runes. In the same panel there is a window for traits and specialization.

By the way I think you should ask in maps for a guild, that can give you help and information directly in game

Oh man I really have problems to think what someone that start the game should do, but I will try lol.
Since for pve you should have everything on berserker stats, your actual armor is ok, same for the weapon you can get them from cof. You should buy or craft your own trinkets. Once you are full exotic (at least armor and weapon) you should start to try to collect golds and materials for get your ascended stuff.
So start to collect laurels (you just have to log in once a day) that you will need to buy your ascended accesories.
Do low level fractals that doesn’t need agony resistance or very low (you will need fractals token for buy agony resistance and buy ascended rings and also for ascended backpack)
Do tequatl and triple wurm daily. (They can drop ascended chest)
Start to explore HoT maps and collect token of each one there.
Collect a lot of golds and mats lol.
Try to have fun doing this

For pvp you already all unlocked so just go to metabattle check the metabuild and pratice it in unranked arena.

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Elementalist

Here you can found build and some tip for use them

I agree that on my Mark need a rework. I agree on fear me + weakness with cd reduced. I agree with a 20sec cd shake it off.
Can’t agree with stab on for great justice. Yes it can use 5 stack of might, but let’s be honest, 3 stack of stability is way too much.

What? Dps Ele doesnt suck, fresh air or staff, are both really good for T4 fractals… I do them daily, most of the time with my Ele, with another Ele in party.

Sorteto.8357:

Euthymias.7984:

Reapers
Rangers
Warriors
Mesmers
Guardians

Ive seen enough GS. Please give us something ranged. Shortbow, Riffle, Pistol, ect.

If all of those light and medium armor classes can use a GS, why wouldn’t a heavy armor rev be able to use one? I feel like the rev is more of a melee class than a ranged one, so if someone wants to use a ranged weapon, why not go to a ranged class instead of making the rev something its not?

Warrior is a melee class but has a really solid ranged option (longbow) and a lesser viable one (rifle).
Guardian was a melee class with a ranged option with scepter and his specialization made DH ranged with longbow.
Thief is a melee class that has 2 ranged option (pistol and shortbow)

So mostly of the classes that are melee has at least 2 ranged option.
Revenant has only One. And IMO is not even that good.
So why can’t I ask for a shortbow while you cam ask for a GS?

No please, I would love a shortbow

Ryou.2398:

Josh XT.6053:

I personally run Durability runes on my Marauder set for my ele and Scrapper runes on my Celestial set.

Can you link your build so we can maybe know what kind of stats you’re working with? I don’t think I can say there is a “one size fits all” rune that will work no matter what your gear is. If you’re full zerk (not a great idea on ele), get scrapper runes so you at least have some toughness. Pack runes are good, I just think some of the newer options are better personally.

I run dagger/warhorn and play tempest ele, so I am not sure if it will help but here is my build: http://asphyxia.tv/wvw-roaming-elementalist-marauder-variant/ – I play this for roaming. If you need a group spec I have that too. I’d recommend staff for larger group play, none of the other weapon sets compare to staff in larger group WvW play.

If nothing else, the gear combination may help you out since it a marauder/zerk/cav mix.

I pretty much like using scepter,dagger/ or focus so far, maybe staff and ive yet to unlock tempest. As far builds I was running fire/air/arcane but recently tried water instead which seemed decent, what do you recommend? I do use beserker at the moment but want mar gear.

Try scepter/focus Air (222) Earth (132) Arcane (131) with signet of restoration, arcane shield, signet of earth, lighting flash and FGS (mostly for disengage).
This build will give you some toughness and, damage mitigation and nice survabity thanks by earth focus skills cooldown reduction.
You can also may take some marauder pieces for push a bit your vitality.
For runes and sigils you can try with strenght runes, strenght sigil and air sigil.
I personaly prefere runes of the pack with Air and Fire sigils. I think is also a cheaper set up.

p.s.: with this build you can may have problems vs condi so you can also swap your signet of restoration for ether renewal, but be carefull since it can be interrupted Pretty easy.

Alex Shatter.7956:

Wolfric.9380:

What i woudl like ist a -20% shout CD on tempestios aria.
An if suport is nerft that powerful aura is the target nothing else.
Fix the OL / swap bug for arcane.
And a bit arcane/fire love would be welcome.

Is powerful aura even good anymore? Ive been running Gale Song and Cleansing waters and I think that’s on metabattle. For real though i want arcane buffs

I think cleasing waters is Pretty mandatory now.

Avador.8934:

I just want some REAL buffs to scepter and focus so I can play and enjoy FA ele in pvp again. I know chances are lower than a chance to drop a precursor from some moa in Queensdale, but please… and if not, at least buff power staff ele… or something… I just don’t want to play that stupid tank anymore…

I feel you mate

Wolfric.9380:

right :-). But if someone talks about skill, PvE is usualy not included.

Now Yes. But tue old S/F lighing hammer build required skill.

Tomiyou.3790:

Supreme.3164:

Wolfric.9380:

ele and engi are basicaly desinged as hybrids ….
But what we sugest are buffs to unused things to make a more damage oriented ele possible by giving up a chunk of its support (r.g. regeneration on aura traded for shout cooldown with might and weakness) Which will lead to more offense instead of regen and vigor. I am even not shure if this will change anything in the meata and bunker will stay only top meta, but it will open a window to try something not pure aurabot.

Problem is the support on ele is mostly related to self-sustain through boons and healing, you can’t really lose support without losing sustain in the process

If I’d have to rank our traitlines from 1 to 6, best to worst :

1) Water
2) Tempest
3) Arcana
4) Air
5) Earth
6) Fire

Air is without doubt our best dps line, moderately good traits from adept to master with a valid choice of GM and master

Earth is number #4?? Wat. Without earth 50% of the builds don’t even work. If you ask me, Earth is below Tempest, then Air, then Arcana. Fire is crap yeah.

Agree

Ryou.2398:

lucadiro.4519:

Ryou.2398:

lucadiro.4519:

Ryou.2398:

reikken.4961:

Ele used to be more difficult to play before HoT, but tempest makes it pretty easy.

In any case, pve staff dps ele is very simple. You only need to press 3 buttons. Lava font-> meteor shower. wait 4 seconds. lava font->overload. wait 4 seconds. lava font on cooldown until meteor shower is off cooldown. repeat. Congratulations, you have the game’s top dps.

If you want to get extra fancy, add ice bow, and for the lava fonts with no channel in between, press autoattack to cancel the lava font’s aftercast delay.

Now, support ele isn’t nearly as simple. Ele in any vs player context is not simple at all.

There are multiple metabuilds for pve though thats only one of the dps builds.

The other dps build for pve is fresh air that I think It’s easier to play since has more susistain than fire staff.
Thats because swap to fire give you an aura (aka heal) and you have another from Dagger 3. So It’s way more easier to save your scholar rune’s buff than playing staff without breack your dps rotation.

The only other metabuild is the raid healer, that maybe require you a little more effort since is like to play fresh air but require you to use your heals when allies need it.
Maybe this could be a bit more complex.

The only build that is hard to play, mostly because require stationary enemies to be effective, is condi burning temepest. But to be honest, how much people run this build lol

There are tons of raid builds on metabattle.com check again man.

There are 4 in total. And I listed them all.
Also only 3 are raccomanded while one is in testing. So what are you talking about?

Doesnt mean they dont work.

What? Ok I will stop to argue with you.

Ryou.2398:

lucadiro.4519:

Ryou.2398:

reikken.4961:

Ele used to be more difficult to play before HoT, but tempest makes it pretty easy.

In any case, pve staff dps ele is very simple. You only need to press 3 buttons. Lava font-> meteor shower. wait 4 seconds. lava font->overload. wait 4 seconds. lava font on cooldown until meteor shower is off cooldown. repeat. Congratulations, you have the game’s top dps.

If you want to get extra fancy, add ice bow, and for the lava fonts with no channel in between, press autoattack to cancel the lava font’s aftercast delay.

Now, support ele isn’t nearly as simple. Ele in any vs player context is not simple at all.

There are multiple metabuilds for pve though thats only one of the dps builds.

The other dps build for pve is fresh air that I think It’s easier to play since has more susistain than fire staff.
Thats because swap to fire give you an aura (aka heal) and you have another from Dagger 3. So It’s way more easier to save your scholar rune’s buff than playing staff without breack your dps rotation.

The only other metabuild is the raid healer, that maybe require you a little more effort since is like to play fresh air but require you to use your heals when allies need it.
Maybe this could be a bit more complex.

The only build that is hard to play, mostly because require stationary enemies to be effective, is condi burning temepest. But to be honest, how much people run this build lol

There are tons of raid builds on metabattle.com check again man.

There are 4 in total. And I listed them all.
Also only 3 are raccomanded while one is in testing. So what are you talking about?

Josh XT.6053:

.Most think they can just sit in fire and press 1, 2 and 5 all day and they’re good. Might be true for PvE but not for WvW.

That’s because for wvw and pve you use different builds, gameplay and you are playing vs real players.
But in pve you have just to press 1, 2, 5, f1.

Also in these days playing and engi in pve means use kits.

Ryou.2398:

reikken.4961:

Ele used to be more difficult to play before HoT, but tempest makes it pretty easy.

In any case, pve staff dps ele is very simple. You only need to press 3 buttons. Lava font-> meteor shower. wait 4 seconds. lava font->overload. wait 4 seconds. lava font on cooldown until meteor shower is off cooldown. repeat. Congratulations, you have the game’s top dps.

If you want to get extra fancy, add ice bow, and for the lava fonts with no channel in between, press autoattack to cancel the lava font’s aftercast delay.

Now, support ele isn’t nearly as simple. Ele in any vs player context is not simple at all.

There are multiple metabuilds for pve though thats only one of the dps builds.

The other dps build for pve is fresh air that I think It’s easier to play since has more susistain than fire staff.
Thats because swap to fire give you an aura (aka heal) and you have another from Dagger 3. So It’s way more easier to save your scholar rune’s buff than playing staff without breack your dps rotation.

The only other metabuild is the raid healer, that maybe require you a little more effort since is like to play fresh air but require you to use your heals when allies need it.
Maybe this could be a bit more complex.

The only build that is hard to play, mostly because require stationary enemies to be effective, is condi burning temepest. But to be honest, how much people run this build lol

gin.7158:

Meh… ele is so simple both for pve and pvp. Instrument wutt??? more like faceroll on keyboard.

The fact that with metà cleric build is easy to survive in pvp it doesn’t mean it is faceroll and easy. You have to be good to survive while giving support heals and cleans at your allies using your skills in the right time.
In ranked pvp I actually see a lot of difference between bad eles and good eles.

Ryou.2398:

gin.7158:

Meh… ele is so simple both for pve and pvp. Instrument wutt??? more like faceroll on keyboard.

Maybe a warrior but not an ele.

To be honest, on a pve prospettive (moslty about raids) there are classes way more faceroll to play than warrior, like thieves and DH that only have to autoattack and sometime press an utility. At least warrior has some skill rotation to do. PS condi warr have also to swap weapons.

Ryou.2398:

Well ele is suppose to be one of the most complex classes, if ele isnt complex anymore what is?

Condi engie and Mesmer are both complex to do optimal dps or support rotation (read it as quikness and alacrity sharing) .
Tempest made elementalist brainless and easy to play.
Everyone can pick a tempest and do perfect rotation, but It’s way harder do it with engie or Mesmer.

What require skill is the role elementalist has, not the dps rotation.
I mean both fresh air and fire staff builds are very easy to play, but what require skill is for example do the orbs cleaning duty at gorseval, while dpsing gorseval, or do the cannon duty at sabetha. This require surely more skill than stay in melee range to dps. But this is not about elementalist, is about the role it has.

Obviusly this is about pve. Pvp is totaly another story.
In pvp, even if you play the metà cleric build, you need to have a knowledge of your skill and other classes’s skills, and know when to use them and when not. You need to know what you have in cooldown in other attunement.
You need to pay attention at you, your enemies and the most important thing is you have to pay attention at your allies, to know when you should heal them or cleans their condition.
But again it is more for the role elementalist has
It’s way easier in my opinion play a dps class, since you usually have to care less about mates and focus more on timing and avoid damage.

Also to be honest, for me play staff fire is really boring. So I usually prefere to play fresh air.
It’s not true that staff offer more healing, d/w does. Also Dagger warhonr offer better cc for breack bar.

Staff is not good vs mobile enemies and not optimal vs small hit box. While d/w is good in these situation.
Also d/w offer more heals, support and give you the possinility to interrup your rotation without lose too much dps thanks by fresh air.
If you swap out of fire as staff ele you are doing nothing for 10sec or more if you have used fire overload.

Xillllix.3485:

The ele will never be as fun as it was when the game was released. As absurd as it may sound, the game was better balanced a few months after the release than it is now.

Yes the Ele had insane aoe damage, but the thief could press 2 keys and kill it. It was just perfect and satisfying to play. Now everything has been flatten and normalized, passive play (conditions) has become the norm, and I left mostly because of that, and also because of many other things done wrong everyone has mentioned.

I think everyone still playing this game have forgotten or never known how good it used to be before.

Funny is that I would prefere more to pay to play the game like it was at the start than pay to play a new expansion

To be honest gokill is right. Even if dps Ele will be a thing, other classes have more thing to offfer than us. The only thing we have to offer is a bit of heals and support. Not that usefull.
So no way to us to be a metà dps build for tpvp.
But I would pay to not feel like I’m crippling my team while I go dps.

I’m still here to say that for an Ele right by now the only chance to be a “near to viable” build is to make air overload a ground target ranged skill. Since you just can’t go into the middle of team fight without get struck from tons of AoE and CC (guessing dps Ele means marauder amulet).
This will not benefit much metacleric build since it usually have to stay on point. While would buff a lot a dps build (maybe not even enough)
Everything else is just a drop in the Sea.
Aracane shield cd reduced can surely help and it would be welcome but is not enough.
Aracane wave/blast cd reduction doesn’t even help since you can’t waste anymore an utility skill for a damage skill in a tpvp match.
For arcane trait line I think It’s obsolete and it can’t compete with tempest in this meta.
And this from someone who is still playing the old SF fresh air build A/W/Ar or A/E/Ar in ranked.

For be healer in pve you can just go full berserker gear, full shout utility Dagger warhorn/staff. Take air (322) water (132) tempest (333) traits.
You can go earth water tempest for more tanky spec (protection from auras + passive damage mitigation)

To be honest I think the only thing on berserker to be nerfed is the condi aplication. And MAYBE the range of gs prima burst.
Then warrior its ok

reikken.4961:

UnbentMars.9126:

Additionally, most fresh air builds skip the Aura-on-overload in favor of stability and protection, neither of which are auras.

Aura on overload and stability are in different slots. You take both of them.
Protection on overload is a minor trait.

And because the dude above didn’t mention it in the (kind of faulty) list:
Every time fire/air/tempest fresh air swaps to fire, it gets a fire aura.

Well I didn’t mentioned it since I was sure to talking about pvp, where you will never take fire trait line for a fresh air build.

UnbentMars.9126:

I’m not sure you know what a fresh air setup is, as no fresh air setup for damage uses earth. I don’t WvW so if you are talking about that you should specify, because I am talking about PvE.

Additionally, most fresh air builds skip the Aura-on-overload in favor of stability and protection, neither of which are auras. Frankly, the only aura I ever use as a fresh air tempest in any pve situation is from Feel the Burn and that’s only fire and must be triggered rather than being passive.

Lol… I was talking about pvp. You was talking about being tanky so I guess it was around pvp since there is no point at all to have an Ele tank in pve.

By the way nvm, my fault, I don’t care about pve since we are already top dps there and I enjoy d/wh FA

UnbentMars.9126:

lucadiro.4519:

UnbentMars.9126:

reikken.4961:

UnbentMars.9126:

aura-centered

no more auras!

Why not? It’s unique to ele’s and offers many opportunities for unique gameplay

For more passive gameplay you mean. That kind of passive gameplay that made tempest only good for be a boring healbot

Try a fresh air tempest. Nothing passive about that. Also, the problem with auras being passive is why I said a revisit of auras would be useful, which my suggested Elite Spec would allow

Man are you kidding me?
Auras are the most passive things in the game, and tempest (even fresh air tempest) is full of passive too since it is focused on auras.
I mean let’s see how much passive procs are from aura in a fresh air set-up:
- Aura effect is passive (stun, burning, chill, reflect)
- Regen+vigor proc from tempest trait line
- Heal proc from tempest trait line
- Protection proc from earth trait line
- Fury+swiftness from air trait line
And this only for the aura, other passive to mention in tempest fresh air build are:
-shocking aura, that is cancer
-passive breack stun on tempest trait line if you take it or aura gain from cast an overload
- condi cleans from shout if you take soldier runes
- protection + swiftness when you cast an overload
- diamond skin/Stone heart
- rebound is useless but full passive effect

Everything about tempest and auras are passive so please don’t tell me it isn’t.
You can also ask for an aura rework, but we all know it will need an effort that arenanet will never put on it.
It’s way better, healty for the game’s gameplay, ask for something totaly new to elementalist.

UnbentMars.9126:

reikken.4961:

UnbentMars.9126:

aura-centered

no more auras!

Why not? It’s unique to ele’s and offers many opportunities for unique gameplay

For more passive gameplay you mean. That kind of passive gameplay that made tempest only good for be a boring healbot

Well to be honest I would prefere 10000x times a spec less tanky but more dynamic AND with more mobility.
I mean, I don’t want a spec with you can facetanking the damage coming and heal it back. There other option, take a look at revenant or thief (well not d/p ones that rely on stealth). With low cooldown blocks/evades skills you can still be melee but with a more dynamic and, in my opinion, fun gameplay.
I’m really tired to play a healbot/facetanking spec, so I would love may a 1hand sword with mobity skills/teleport/blocks/evades skill in it.

Staff is ok in spvp.. just D/F work better for metà build

Instead of a gs I would prefere 20x time a bow, with a dinamyc playstile like shortbow for thieves.

Please, stop to ask more passive kitten

Vasdamas Anklast.1607:

lucadiro.4519:

jhern.6097:

do you guys think the revenant will get any better in the future? im not referring to the bugs getting fixed but whether or not it will become a staple in things like small roaming groups in wvw, dungeons, etcetera etcetera. right now i feel that its hard enough managing a 1v1 on a revenant while i can even 2v1 on my engi and ranger rather easily. what do you guys think? will there be a significant improvement for the revenant in the seasonal patch? the build variety also feels a lot more limited than the other classes.

Revenant It’s a very good 1v1 class, out of condi warrior and necro you can beat any class. And you can also manage a 2v1 for a lot.
It’s also has a crazy mobility so pvp is not where a revenant need buff.
For wvw I think its Pretty fine, as a romer it is really good.
And it also good as a backline.
It could have some buff to the pve aspect where, at least in raids, isn’t really that good and a lot of people are starting to push out revenant from squad composition.

Can still beat those too if you don’t go all braindead faceroll.

Well actually in pvp I always open the match as a revenant pushing far, so I duel very often reapers and condinoobs warriors. And since this season started I have lost maybe 2 1v1 at far, and I did it all the way to legendary division. So Yes as revenant you can also beat condi warriors and reapers but it is way more hard than Powers specs.

Hyper Cutter.9376:

The number one thing condition revenant needs in PVE is a ranged condition weapon. Good luck getting that out of Anet without forking over another $50 though.

It really doesn’t need a ranged condi weapon to be viable in pve (aka raids and fractals since in dungeon and open pve you can ran what ever you want ).
Revenant is designed to be a melee class. No point to ask another new weapon (also a ranged One) while we have a melee weapon set (mace/axe) that could have some love and could be builded for be dps AND support spec.

jhern.6097:

do you guys think the revenant will get any better in the future? im not referring to the bugs getting fixed but whether or not it will become a staple in things like small roaming groups in wvw, dungeons, etcetera etcetera. right now i feel that its hard enough managing a 1v1 on a revenant while i can even 2v1 on my engi and ranger rather easily. what do you guys think? will there be a significant improvement for the revenant in the seasonal patch? the build variety also feels a lot more limited than the other classes.

Revenant It’s a very good 1v1 class, out of condi warrior and necro you can beat any class. And you can also manage a 2v1 for a lot.
It’s also has a crazy mobility so pvp is not where a revenant need buff.
For wvw I think its Pretty fine, as a romer it is really good.
And it also good as a backline.
It could have some buff to the pve aspect where, at least in raids, isn’t really that good and a lot of people are starting to push out revenant from squad composition.

I only hope in something dynamic, dps based, High mobility spec.
Something that don’t rely into superspeed for outrun enemies like FA builds, but that have mobility skills.
So I would love a main hand sword.

I don’t see any point to leave Glint legend since it give more dps than shiro. And also provide fury to your squad.
For the boon duration thing, even if you take other legends you still have your f2. So I’m assuming your are talking about drop the Glint trait line, that is a dps lost since you there have the GM trait that provide +% damage for each boon.
Even if you run Glint trait line and Mallyx/dwarf legends other classes still out dps you.

Can you please add at this trait the option for make torment does full damage in pve even if the enemy is not moving? Only in pve thanks

Please anet add an a corruption’s GM trait, maybe pulsating pestilence since is useless, make torment does the full damage even if the enemy doesn’t move ONLY in pve. Thanks

I like most of the change you lost here. I would love an lower cd than 60sec on elementalist’s arcane shield. Like 30. Even without the damage part to balance it.