Guild Wars 2

I disagree with you. The idea bout luck is that it gets harder to get when you get more.
With the monthly essence (500 points) you get 5% if you are a new player. Only on the higher levels (50% and upwards) it isn’t enough to raise above 1%.

But the monthly is actually more rewarding. then that. You also get AP’s that on themself result in more magic find. On top off that the activity’s you do result in drops that can be salvaged for luck.

hmmmmm
My first reaction is that this is not a bug but intended. If you block a player you block them for yourself. It doesnt restrain the other player at all. On itself it is a good and fair system

The side effect indeed is the LFG-system, making that you end up with someone you dotn want to play with and make matters worse, making you force to leave a party you started cause that one person joined.

This is however very complex and more a side effect then a bug. The best thing to do is if people are doing this on purpose you should report them. If people really start misusing this Anet prolly will take actions against it.

1: My personal opinion is that on your first character you should not join the train. You simply miss too much.
2: That doesnt mean the train itself is a bad thing. Before that nobody cared bout killing champions. Many end game things cost a lot of money. too many farms have been nerfed. This was a stimulant to kill champions more often.
3: the flame bout the train should stop. If people are flaming right click their names and report.(there is a different between ‘Please don’t kill the spider yet’ and ‘OMG you idiot, you killed the spider are your kittened’). The flame should stop and Anet is working actively bout that.

hmmmmm. If you are looking for unsolved mystery: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Wizard%27s_Tower

Nobody knows who build this, who is living there, how it is floating, what the origin is, etc. The only thing we do know is that it is old. Older then gw1.

As for the living story, I think there is a lot of long term story and plotting involves round the living story. specially the buildup from the molten alliance to the reveal off scarlet was very interesting. However it is time to wrap that line up and start a new one. she is revealed, so please let us finish that.

Keep in mind that RNG not only applies to loottables for foes but also for chests. This is important to note cause many complaints off the community here is bout the RNG of for example Black Lions chests. Where you have to be lucky to get enough scraps to get a bl ticket to get one of the halloween skins. (and I’m not saying that to have that discussion started in this thread, so please keep that where it belongs).

Ariete.6509:

About time to add some new fractals. Looking at the new TA path i guess they’re heading for other direction…

I’m not sure what brought you to that conclusion. We know they are going to release atleast 3 fractals and are actually working on that.
a: The explosion off the thumova (dont wanna look for the correct spelling) reactor
b: The molten alliance dungeon is adapted into a fractal
c: The first Aetherblade dungeon is being adapted into a fractal

Just the fact that they also show love and attention to other aspects off the game doesn’t mean they will break their promises.

1: EU or NA?
2: add me to your friendslist. I’ll be online soon and if yourEU i can help you out.
3: maybe a few tips for your ele. Try make a more protective setup. Ele’s can be really tough a tanky. I personally prefer a setup where I use signets combined with the trait ‘written in stone’ to keep them active all the time.

There are certain elements of the game you can’t do alone. This skillpoint is only an example. This doesnt mean however that you need to party up to do so. The fact that the OP made it so far, means he had atleast a group of players doing lyssa’s temple and Dwayna’s temple. The same goes for this skillpoint. Just wait till more people show up to do this, ask in map chat. (if I’m correct it can be two different events blocking it, but both contain a champion and people love to kill champions nowadays).

You can always guest to a different server where none of these events are active (there are even some websites tracking these things.

Most armor sets available in PvP are also available in PvE, there are two exceptions. this is one of them. It is not possible to transmutate this to PvE and it is not available in PvE.

So short answer: There is no way to be able to wear this armor outside of PvP
(there are many more skins only available in PvE and not PvP)

You asked:
‘short question. Is it wanted that an ability not dealing damage wastes the 100% crit-chance…? It’s kinda annoying^^’

My answer: Yes it is wanted and it is not a bug. It is called the sigil of intelligence cause you have to use it not blindly but think bout it.

You can disagree with me. But don’t tread me as you are doing here. You asked a question and I answered it.

1: Guildhalls
2: Guild management options
3: commander tag variety (a wvw commander and guildbounty commander only have a tag and name of commander in common, for the rest they are totally different)

I agree with most posters here. To avoid spamming dodge there is indurance (only 2 dodges in a row). I’m not active in PvP, but in PVE there are plenty of reasons to spam two dodges in a row.

a: young karka’s in southsun cove. They attack three times very hard after that they are harmless for a long time. one dodge isn’t enough to evade all three attacks. but two are enough.

b: Viscount in labyrinth. On my thief, when stealing or giving him a few powerfull melee hits I need to get back very soon cause i’m a thief. Dodging twice in a row puts me in perfect shortbow range.

I do agree that Anet should start making a decission yeah. So far we got several helmets, gloves and shoulders, but mostly backpacks. Either make the rewards more diverse (we also have shoes, skirts and and chest armor!) or start making them skins. The backpacks for TA and TR (the last two livings stories) I turned into pvp for the cheer reason of being able to keep them reserved for my account.

First off all, you posted this as a question in the players helping players forum. If you want a discussion wether this is the right mechanic or not, you are in the wrong place. I have been trying to explain how to counter the mechanic.

Almost every sigil has negative side effects. That has to do with the balance in the game.

Many off the games with blood effects get rating 16 (mature), while GW2 has rating 12 (Teen). This opens up a larger amount of potential players.

This rating is based on whats possible in game, so making it optional wont change the new rating. For example, making it possible to install an unauthorized mod to unlock hidden features (the hot coffee mod in GTA San Andrea) was enough to change that games rating.

So adding such an option would change the rating

I know what you mean, but there is nothing wrong with
a: Swap weapon
b: use an attack skill to hit critical
c: use signet then

First off all No.
The reason is that people who pay these kind off subs often think they are treated differently by support, or have ‘more’ rights then other players.

However I do think that being a loyal customer should be rewarded. So I would not have any objection to a system where you get more bonus rewards when spending gems. In this case I’m talking bout e.g. the wind kite. But instead of just having spent real money on the game, you get rewarded if you bought an amount of gems. This can start very simple with e.g. a unique miniature for buying 20.000 gems in total with real money but could end with a 50% discount on gemstore purchases as a reward for buying 200.000 gems in total.

It is a result off the game mechanic. Not very nice, but on the other hand pretty easy to avoid. Just make sure your first attack after switching deals damage.

This is likely for a future update.
a: The vista has been moved so you can still do that
b: the POI’s range has been increased, just going near the barrier will be enough.
c: For the heart, you can still collect tasty crab meat by killing crabs.

I want to thank Rhonda for organising this great event but also I want to thank the community. The moment Rhonda asked on the radio for one minute off silence in memory of Sadie, at least on my server mapchat was dead for a full minute. A moment I was proud to be an Gandarian

Raghnu.1049:

I want another class which main focus is support, a heavy class which plays songs and is reminiscent of the EQ1 bard.

This has been my desire in most MMOs for a long time.

Please, make it so!

Anet stated that although they are not ruling anything out, a new class is the least off all things they are considering. It is more likely they introduce a new weapon(set) or a new race.

And I’m happy with that. First off all the current classes are very fairly balanced and good.

The least off all possible classes I would see is a healer/support class. The simple reason is that this game doesnt need them. The whole point of breaking the trinity is to get rid off those kind off classes. They are boring and dont contribute at all, but you are required to take some in your party to be successfull. The current system that leans a lot more on self healing is in my opinion genious and much much better.

Off course you can disagree with me. There are plenty off games that have such a class. just not GW2. GW2 is (thank god) unique and not copying other games.

I made a suggestion for this 2,5 weeks ago. No comments. Glad to see that closer to the date more people are enthusiastic bout this and hope that (if not this year then next year) Anet finds a way where we can donate our gems to breastcancer research.

(also see it as a good promotion, it will be you guys handing over the big fat cheque).

Small remark. The canadian cancer society let people decide for themself where the money is spent. For one of the promotors for pink day on Gandarra (EU-server) I get a lot of questions why europeans have to pay to an canadian organisation. Only after I explain you can choose your own goal world wide they are sattisfied enough to donate.

So maybe make a selection of 10 projects worldwide you can donate gems too. And offcourse a nice in game reward (maybe a town clothes chest piece with a pink ribbon on it).

it is a pain to do this but absolutly possible, Most important trick is to watch your back and always anticipate a knockback. What also helps is waiting at the starting point and join one or two others that need it too.

Return Question: Would you risk your legendary to try it out??
In my humble understanding of the game mechanics it should work as described. But the main question is if anyone has tried it. I’ll put a question up on the talk page at the wiki. But if it was my legendary I wouldn’t even trust anyone here saying it is ok to do so and only trust e.g. a youtube vid. A legendary is not something to gamble with.

Hi and thanks for being helpfull.

I personally would advise NOT to do this if you are a new player. The same goes btw for the Queensdale train. There are several reason for it.

1: both give a huge amount of XP, but dont learn you how to play. The challenges you are facing both in your personal story and in higher maps means you will have a dissadvantage.
2: GW2 is not bout endgame. Leveling to 80 is the biggest fun in my opinion. So thats the part you have to enjoy. If you want a rush to max level , there are plenty of other games.
3: you are missing 99% of the most spectacular game around!

If you leveled a character before the normal way there are off course no objections to these methods.

ddoi.9264:

clint.5681:

Next time free trail comes around create a new account and invite them to the guild and mail yourself the items. Thats all i can think of.

Ah, not a bad idea….just hope it comes around again soon.

Thank you guys.

Most free trials lasted for about 60 hours. New members need to be a member for atleast 72 hours before they can withdraw from the guildbank.

Silvercyclone.1462:

I’m not sure somethig liek this will work. It sounds like you are suggesting only guards cna be tanks and warriors only dps. The devs made this game so and class can do anything so even an ele can be a tank if done right.

I do think you are not reading carefully. I’m trying to get the guardian (at level 30) to discover he has very good abillity’s to protect friends. During Gates of Arah pre there are often 5-10 guardians around Crusader Angaria. She dies very often. I have witnessed, that I only can buff her health from 10% back up to 70% within seconds and still have plenty off buffs available.

Guardians can be tanky, but this game doesnt have tanks. The power of the guardian is to control the damage and to keep the party alive. Too many guardians dont see that and only use the potential for self protection.

For rangers it is even worse. They rely on their pet for damage control while they stand back firing arrows.

There are also good guardians and there are also good rangers. The goal is to let people discover other potentials for their class. Things they would miss out cause there is zero class tutorial in the game so far.

Recent discussions bout the skill-balance patch last night did me see what is missing and the cause of so much debate bout wich class is OP and wich one is bad. The reason is that too many people don’t get challenged to get the full potential out of their class. There is no class tutorial at all. Guardians who treat the class as warriors. Warriors who think they are tanks. Thiefs that don’t know how to stealth. Ele’s who only see how squishy they are instead of how to work around that. My solution is some extra personal story lines called ‘Back to school’. I think 3 of these missions are sufficient. One showing more generally alternatives to game play you might be used to. One preparing people for smarter enemy’s and one that focusses on how to be good in dungeons with your class.

Storywise I focus on the first one.
This would be at level 30, just after you unlocked your elite skill slot. As you know you meet your mentor in your order. Instead of giving you your first assignment the order leader questions your skills and wants you to be tested by a master off your class. You are sent to the trainer in lions arch for your class where an instance starts.

The first unique thing bout this instance is that it is a solo instance. No partymembers allowed.

The second unique thing is that you can equip locked utility and elite skills. Your trainer challenges you to test them out and explains it.

The third unique thing is that all weapons available for your class are there as an environmental weapon with exactly the same skills as usual (if it would be a rare weapon).

So lets pick three missions on that level out and start with the ranger.
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On start off the mission the first thing you notice is that your pet is missing (and the pet menu is disabled). Your training speaks to you and explains he is kidnapped by Yeng Isen (npc you also hear bout later on during “suspicious activity’s”, know to be a collector of unique animals).

Your task is to inflitrate his hide out and liberate your pet. On the way you meet some heavy enemy’s. Though there are several way of dealing with them the easiest way is to use melee weapons.
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Thief:

Your trainer challenges you to steal a valuable drinking cup from Evon Gnashblade the leader of the black lion company. the trick is to stay undetected (stealth is the only solution). As soon as you are detected (either on the way or after you take the cup) alarms go off and traps are activated. The only way to get out is to jump dodge and roll over and round he traps. The trick is here to bring stealth and use it wisely, as well as weapons that help you dodge.

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Guardian:

When entering the instance your trainer explains that you are being tested in basic protecting and guarding abbility’s but halfway he is interupted by Evon Gnashblade asking for help. Evon is expecting some crates shipped in with the newest top secret Black lion gadgets going for sale within the next month. It is however crucial that they are delivered to his headquarters safely. The supplies come from the Tengu traders (near the diving tower. Special carrior golems are allready there but they need a qualified guardian to get them to HQ without the competition to intercept the goods. Your trainer decides thats the excellent way to get practise.

Upon guarding you meet many enemy’s. The only way to get your caravan of gollems through is not only to kill the enemy’s but also by buffing and healing the gollems.
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Off course for the other professions something simular should exist, both lorewise fitting for the class and being an eye-opener to the classes potential. The reward are two special tokens (guardian tokens, ranger tokens, elementalist tokens, etc). You can trade them at your class trainer for weapons. 1h weapon cost 1 token. 2h weapons cost 2 tokens (so you can buy a new set of main hand/off hand weapons or a 2 handed weapons). The goal is off course that you pick a weapon you where surprised by. The quality is rare for level 30, but the stats are actually simular to rare for level 35 (so at that level its a huge reward).

These missions are repeatable for lesser rewards afterwards but at first they are required to continue your personal story.

I’ll take ranger as an example. This cause there has been a lot of ranger hate.
The first and most important thing I have to say is that there is absolutly nothing wrong with the ranger as a class. The class can be potentially as good as any class.

However the class has two major issues.
a: In GW1, but also in other games the ranger/hunter/bowsman class somehow is appealing to more laid back gamers then other classes. This means that the people who like such a class do that e.g. cause they get a cute bear running next to them all the time.
b: the ranger is easier to play and to level but cause of the wrong reasons. Ask the player versus player section what the most important thing is they would tell a new player and the answer will likely be to be mobile and dodge. The ranger comes from the traditional ranged DPS-school in trinity games. The one where you stand still and shoot your arrows from a distance. In GW2, the CC capacity’s of specially the longbow, combined with the tank capacity of some pets, this means you aren’t challenged to change that old school behaviour. Or atleast not untill you enter dungeons. The CC does nothing/nearly nothing. You damage is poor. Your pet is in the way and not listening and you suddenly got a kittenload of agro over you, while you never learned how to avoid it.

The same goes for PvP. Some thiefs specifically have been snearing bout rangers as being meat for daily’s. This not truthfull. Ask any thief if they would say the same bout a melee ranger with e.g. a GS. The answer is that they would approach with much more caution. It is the bow that makes the thief happy and not the ranger itself. A thief is trained to be extremely mobile from the beginning of the game. So 99% off all arrows fired by a bow will miss. On top off that the thief can easily ignore the pet and go straight for the ranger. The ranger is not trained in close combat and the result is that he looses within seconds.

There are very good rangers (I’m not one btw, but some of my friends are) both in PvP and in dungeons that really can kick kitten there. I truly believe that goes for all classes.

So instead of buffing nerfing classes, th

Indeed. The issue with not running multiple clients at the same time is not that it isn’t allowed, but on default the game client can’t handle it. There are ways around to fix this and it is not against the UA to do so.

Off course you actually have to play both clients. Booting out for inactivaty system stays active, as well as that your not allowed to bot or operate both clients at the same time.

But for the rest feel free to use the work around.

I disagree with the conclusion it never gets back together.

First off all, ignore halloween and wintersday. that is seasonal content. Secondly ignore Tequatl. This wasn’t really living ‘story’ (or atleast not when given place in the future, but I dont see any way to do that where it isnt lame).

So we started in southsun cove with the introduction of the consortium. They kinda messed things up and there was a karka invasion. After that the branch got silent for some time. It is also the introduction of Ellen Kiel.

Then Flame and Frost started. This has two important long term effects. The first is the introduction of the molten alliance. The second is that the refugee are being helped by the same consortium.

The we return to southsun to see a civil war between the consortium and the refugees. Together with Ellen Kiel we settle the war and bring piece. Since then the consortium if is out of the picture (atleast for now).

Then we get Dragonbash wich means the introduction of he aetherblades. At the end we hear their leader speaking bout a higher leader called ‘Scarlet’. Also the murder of Theo Ashford means there is a seat on the council available.

The bazaar of the four winds lets us decide that Ellen Kiel takes the empty seat on the council. It is unknown if that means she is out of the future living story or that she would have appeared again if she had lost.

The Queen Jubilee and clockwork Chaos revealed the mastermind behind the Aetherblades and the Molten Alliance in the form of Scarlet Briar.

During Twilight Assault we get to hunt her down a bit more. Though we haven’t catch her (yet).

So
Consortium arch is closed. It can be opened again but there are no loose ends
Ellen Kiel Arch is closed as well. She might be returned in the future, but no loose ends here either.
Remains the Scarlet Briar arch (including aetherblades and molten alliance). Twillight Assault clearly indicates that this story is still in the progress of being told.

So there really isnt an issue. They are not hasting to the finish and to me it all makes perfectly sense. I can’t wait and see what Scarlet has to offer us in the future.

I think you are talking bout the achievement Trick or Treat bags opened.

If you look at your achievement list. This one is listed under:
Historical – Shadow of the Mad King.

The word historical here is important. From the online dictionary: Historical means ‘Used in the past’. This means it is not longer there and you can’t get that achievement any longer.

The new halloween living story chapter got a new trick or treat bag achievement where you have to open 50 bags (only the normal size, big ones dont count).

I am actually happy they didn’t bring back the achievement. They decided that achievements are part of the living story completion. To me the clocktower is a much bigger challenge then all the other achievements are.

I see the clocktower a bit as the Queens Gauntlet. I personally would have prefered if this puzzle got their own set of achievements just like the Queens Gauntlet had. This way it would be kept out of the more casual achievemens, and the people who do it are still rewarded.

Lots of talk bout this one. It seems to belong more in the bug section, but it is good to know they are looking into it.

As far as I have witnessed it is not an overflow issue cause it happens also in main servers. It also is not a constant issue. Many people got the achievement the 3th or 4th try.

So for those suffering from this. keep trying, if doing all doors succesfully you still need to kill this boss 5-6 times at least to do the 50 portals closing.

I disagree. Condition damage is armor ignoring damage. That is the plus above regular damage. Condition builds where allready very powerfull specially in PvP and actually got more powerfull. Guardians lost one condition remover from pure of voice (only one removed anymore) and gained purging flames for 20% short duration. It’s a fair trade off.

Don’t make this game too easy. It’s not supposed to be hit button once and win.

The message that your skill is still recharging is in the wrong chat. It clearly belongs in the combat chat, but appears as a game message. Please fix asap. I’m doing a lot of social chatting even during light fighting and this is cluttering up my chat completely and making it impossible to keep track of the different chats.

Nauda.3678:

Please move this message from “game messages” to “combatchat” in the chatlog.

My chat in WvW scrolls really fast because this message is filling it up very fast when i try to use skills which are on cooldown. Same for the “No line of sight” message.
It is kinda annoying and after a very long fight I actually couldn’t read a whisper that someone send to me at the start of the fight.

Yes please. Worse mistake in ages. I’m even going to put a simular thread i nthe bugs section, cause it should be a mistake and not a feature.

Search isn’t working, use google instead.
There are loads of treads bout this. But the reality is that most people dont realise there is player housing. it is called the home instance. The big issue is that it isn’t home. or atleast doesn’t feel like it. Off course you have the people you met during your personal story there. You also have your own home within the instance. (for example humans, either have the back allie for street rats, the pub for commoners or the house on the hill for nobels). You can’t decorate it however. Arenanets comment bout this is that they are considering to give more possibility’s. But when and if and how is totally unknown.

Keep in mind this desire only lives at a small part of the community. The most people dont care bout it.

wbonetwo.2196:

no one sees eye to eye with me on this?

First off all, I dont see what you are expecting.
a: bumping is not allowed (so if thats what you did, shame on you )
b: Anet doesn’t respond to suggestions. They (claim to) read them all, but almost never respond.
c: reactions from other players are either negative (people hate the idea) or positive. No reactions often means people ‘meh, I dont care’ bout it.

Having said that I am personally against this suggestion. For the content itself, I am´Meh, i dont care’ . The reason is that on average you still do a certain amount of damage. You can use precission and critical damage to be more depending on this, but once that is set you do on average a certain amount of damage. So for me this means im not bothered by the mechanic at all.

However, taking away the mechanic means that every single foe in the game has to be re-designed. This for the simple reason that we all do critical damage. taking it away we deal less damage and every mob and every dungeon becomes unbalanced. The result is that the devs are putting lots of time and effort into something I’m ‘meh’ bout. They better put in into more important things.

Some important differences between gw2 and WoW (and other games).

1: there is no trinity. (Tank/dps/healer). There are classes that can specialize more in being protective, being tanky, or being specialized in DPS more then other classes. But the game play makes a traditional trinity model impossible. The first reasons is that the best protective class is melee-range. But also cause no class can keep other players alive forever. Self-healing is much more important for survivabillity. The most important reason however is that foes don’t stay on the tank. ranged classes (on average) have an advantage that they have a better overview to avoid (dodge) damage. But almost all classes can do melee damage and the melee damage is the best DPS.

2: No tagging needed. If you participate in a fight you get a reward. Some claim people dont have to do enough. With most fights it is enough to get one shot in to get rewarded. This means however it is a much more friendly game. You are rewarded by playing together not only with guildies, but also with people you randomly meet.

3: No gear grind. or atleast not as much. The highest level gear (just recently introduced) takes a good amount of gameplay. But that will be it, and that level of gear is just slightly higher then the second best rank. This second best rank is very widely available. The grind is for good looking skins.

4: Everything rewards. Crafting, killing foes, discovering map, gathering materials. All reward experience and help you to level up.

5: An important note is to not trick yourself to higher level. there are very viable ways to grind your way to max level a lot faster then by playing the game (doing story, exploring new maps, going to higher level zones, etc). These methods like crafting you to max level or joining a so called champ train in the starter area, make you level up faster. But you will not have the right learning curve. The game is very different then WoW and you need to learn to play it. these methods are good for your second or third character, but not your main.

From the release notes of Twilight assault:
‘During this release, a new set of daily achievements challenges players to complete either Twilight Arbor or another dungeon that rotates daily. Completing story mode or any of the explorable mode paths will qualify. These daily achievements contribute toward Twilight Assaulted, the meta-achievement for the release.’
So release is over and the meta achievement is gone, just as they said and promised.

No there isn’t. But feel free to suggest it in the suggestions forum

Hi and welcome,

First off all I would like you to tell wich region you are in. There are North American servers and European servers.

I personally play on the EU server Gandara and the average age is above 20 and most of the community is really nice.

Also this weekend it is one of the servers where you can enjoy Pink Day in LA. This is a fundraising event to raise money for Breast cancer research.

Most servers however are like this. Some have extracted a somewhat younger community at start but that is also ironing out a bit.

Hi shelledfade,

I think this suggestion is too late. They allready explained that there is a need for a different way to get a precrusor. So they announced that before the end of the year you can craft your own. It will take effort to get a precursor, but it will not have anything to do with luck wether you get it or not.

How to make people want to do Tequatl? make good organised runs. Gandara has a succesfull guild specialized in Tequatl. Normally the fight is deserted, but when they do it, the map is full before the window even is there. The problem is the fail rate on him. Cause people now know that guild organise it with a 100% success rate (as far as I’ve been there) people actually joins.

It’s inside a jumping puzzle (bout 3-4 jumps in). The first jump is a steam valve that launches you in the air and makes a hissing noise. So look for that.

Ok, thanks for sharing. You have your own opinions off course, but I sense many reasons you are giving to be your selling point is what you think is bad bout the others. But what is so good bout yours?

If I’m selling a new brand of coke it is easy to say that Coca Cola is too sour and Pepsi is way to sweet. But it doesn’t explain why mine is better. So try to focus not on what others are doing wrong, but on what you are good at. in advertising people dont want to hear something negative, but something positive. Compare the following two lines and see whats more appealing to you.

1: this dress makes you look sexy and slim
2: this dress makes you look less fat and ugly

Both are saying the same thing but wich one do you think is more appealing??

It depends on the item.
If an item is soulbound on acquire, the result will be that the item that comes out of the forge will also be soulbound on acquire

If an item is soulbound on use and account bound the result will be accountbound.
If an item is only soulbound on use the result will be not binded.

Yes it does increase the amount of karma gain from hearts. So does food. The only thing it doesn’t increase is the amount of karma gained from containers.

it seems that the lfg tool has some lag. This can be more for one person then the other. I noticed, several times that party’s appeared on the list as grey (allready full) and when I refresh it takes several seconds for the first party to appear. It seems that you are having simular but much more severe problems.

Guess we now can add LFG-lag to the list.