I doubt they will be a gw3, I think they have learned that a lot of players associate a sequel with a continuation of the previous game and not simply a brand new game.
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When/IF they announce a new mode they will make a big deal about. they will be a post on the main site, unless you see the official post, making this thread is a waste of time.
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The reason why they split is skills is because history has shown no developer has been able to successfully achieve parity between PvP and PvE and that is because the amount of work required is too much and the skill level of players in PvE are significantly lower, so why bother doing it?
Also as Tichorum.2415 said or implied talk is cheap, offer suggestions. The developers don’t always have the answer if you have the answer suggest it and if you don’t deal with it.
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I was talking for tourneys. As for hotjoins, people just go in there to do what they think is fun. Skill, strategy, intellectual thought do not come into play in hotjoins.
I understand that hot-joins are for casual PvPers, but I still don’t understand why people wouldn’t even try to win. It boggles my mind to think that someone would consider playing badly, failing to strategize, and ignoring the obvious “fun.” I mean, I’m pretty much only in it for the achievement points, but while I’m there I might as well try my best to win…
1. your definition of fun is different from everybody else.
2. No coordination means nobody wants to be the guy on the map mechanic. Why would I sacrifice glory by doing something that doesn’t give me glory. Remember a lot of the people in hotjoin do it to farm glory.
3. Except for a few maps, a lot of the time the huge team size actually makes it punishing to give up a few guys to focus on the map mechanic.
4. People enjoy a good zerg.
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They need first a brain, and a lot a self-criticism to admit that their game in Spvp suck !
They already indirectly admit the spvp isn’t well they want it to be, it doesn’t take a brain to realize that. if you want a public apology from Arenanet stating that spvp is bad, you probably have a better chance of getting struck by lightning.
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Why would I want to play an elementalist where I have to work 3 times more to be on par with an average player in another class?
That the problem with this game, they are some classes that are just too good not to play them, and if you are trying to win which is all that matters in the long run then you would be a kitten fool to not play those OP classes.
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Sure…playing pvp since start taught me to never think it can’t get worse…it always can, devs are apparently working much on this..from removing gems from tpvp to giving us skyhammer and so on..
but still you are playing, don’t you?
Hope is the last one to die..
Especially after years of GW1 PvP
Exactly…you just keep saying yourself “This is pvp in a game called guild wars…it MUST get better…can’t suck forever…” When you’ve been for something like 7 years on a game you simply don’t want to believe they ruined everything…even if facts say the complete opposite..call it fanboy’s regrets…but that’s it
Am I the only one that thought PvP got progressively bad and unbalance or are u guys just focusing on the fact that gw1 game modes?
Oh progressively bad and not fun to play for sure AND game modes…
Except that teh recent tournament seem to show that a good team can easily overcome those OP classes…as long as they don’t bring an ele.
Anyways, the balance in gw1 made gw2 looks like a little kitten. And so the only advantage is the game modes, which will be kind of nice to have, as long as it is not tdm.
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I think you have never studied any marketing class at all.
“Customer always has the reason”
Marketing class.
The real world doesn’t operate always operate with what you are taught in class. No company ever admits guilt or fault, they are willing to go to great lengths to never admit it, also it doesn’t hurt that the same people demanding a company admit faults will, use that as fuel to mock that company.
Reading the forums, there is no reason to Arenanet to admit fault, because it really wont change the attitude on this forum, so why admit it. Also admitting fault on this forum comes with the risk of using that previous fault to justify whatever rant the QQer can dream off.
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Sure…playing pvp since start taught me to never think it can’t get worse…it always can, devs are apparently working much on this..from removing gems from tpvp to giving us skyhammer and so on..
but still you are playing, don’t you?
Hope is the last one to die..
Especially after years of GW1 PvP
Exactly…you just keep saying yourself “This is pvp in a game called guild wars…it MUST get better…can’t suck forever…” When you’ve been for something like 7 years on a game you simply don’t want to believe they ruined everything…even if facts say the complete opposite..call it fanboy’s regrets…but that’s it
Am I the only one that thought PvP got progressively bad and unbalance or are u guys just focusing on the fact that gw1 game modes?
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It’s called theorycrafting because it sounds cool, but the real name for it is “meauring the white numbers that pop on your screen”
And sometimes we do a bit of “huge would these white numbers be if I changed this little thing here”
Theories don’t take into account the actual behavior of certain skills, which makes them effectively useless in real world scenario. A theory is to be as guide, but not actually take the place of real world test IF it is feasible and it is feasible to test that; it is just that a lot of people like yourself choose not to or are afraid to.
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there is no reason to explain myself because this guy already tried to argue with guang.
he is one of the guys who dont want to accept things even when you show them facts.
its waste of time.
Since you edit your statement above.
You guys keep talking about theorycrafting, how about showing some real world numbers. Actually, show something that is real, that can be compared or all you are saying amounts to conjecture.
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I know theorycrafting is cool etc… but while its quite OK for calculating damage for old type MMOs it very unpractical for new, more arcade approach combat system like in tera or GW2 where theorycrafting is far far away from the actual combat damage.
We already have nice dps meter in this game, it is called Lupicus. It simulates real combat enviorement quite well and real life DPS can be measured on him.
At first try to kill him as an staff ele in a time comparable to a naked warrior kill time which is ~10 min like on this movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISwkOxvxY1o
If you manage to have similar damage as an naked warrior then we can start to talk
you dont know what you are talking about, and you dont even realize it.
It is easier to make a claim IF you don’t have to explain yourself. Just remember that.
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elementalist is more interesting, but in a game about combat; all that matters is how fast you kill stuff and the warrior is great at killing stuff, in spvp, PvE and PvPvE. You can just play while drinking tea like I do, don’t have to worry about working 10X for mediocre results.
A lot of PvEers are going to tell you but “blah blah blah ele have higher damage” but the cost is that you are spamming LH, which is far worst than simply playing a warrior. LH even feels like a warrior with a hammer, but with less defensive abilities, toughness and HP.
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Trolling is only trolling if it is clever, this is not.
Wut.
The vast majority of trolling is kittened kitten people do just to annoy others…
The concept of trolling it to say something clever or a ruse to generate an emotionally charge response.
The point being there is a fine line between trolling and being obnoxious. For example, you like to think you are a troll, but you are simply just obnoxious.
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lets fix PVP once and for all. Im guessing a few weeks of hard work should do the trick
I am sure a few weeks of hard work will fix the trick. Except for the fact that if you rush something like for example leaderboards, people get excited for like 2 hours then spend the next few months QQing about it.
So I honestly doubt it will take a few weeks, going through the design process: brainstorm, concept (which takes a lot of time in the real work), then making sure you have the resources (which takes a while), then you have prototyping, testing and sending it back for redesign and you keep testing it until it works and has no bugs.
Those things do no take a few weeks. But since your suggestion is to buy gw2 from ncsoft, living in reality wasn’t part of the equation.
tl;dr
So good plan, I support you. Op for president of Mars.
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They went to a different direction because the resources was shifted to support the game mode that actually made guild wars 1 successful which was PvE.
also, prepare to be disappointed, ppl that. People never learn, don’t hype stuff it only leads to disappointment, 1 patch isn’t going to suddenly change things, it takes a while for a lot of changes to actually show change.
Lol, son got trolled
That isn’t really troll, since the op was attempting to be clever but ended up making an extremely obvious connections between 2 products that a subset of the market seems to believe did not live up to their expectations due to not listening and now that they are listening things will “change”.
Trolling is only trolling if it is clever, this is not.
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They went to a different direction because the resources was shifted to support the game mode that actually made guild wars 1 successful which was PvE.
also, prepare to be disappointed, ppl that. People never learn, don’t hype stuff it only leads to disappointment, 1 patch isn’t going to suddenly change things, it takes a while for a lot of changes to actually show change.
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Yes, we’ve seen some of the more competitive teams disband or leave. There’s a pretty big drop-off in skill from the top tier, which means that anyone in the top tier doesn’t need to put as much effort in to practice.
We can’t stop people from leaving. What we can do is keep developing the game until it’s in a good place, and those players don’t want to leave, or want to come back. In the meantime, I will continue to focus on helping support members of the community that do put in the extra effort to run tournaments or help new players. That’s the beauty of having a sub-free game.
I know that’s probably not the answer you guys were looking for, but we are still working on the game. Yes, it’s likely not as fast as you want it to be, but there isn’t much we can do on that front except to keep pushing forward.
Thanks for the support!
I think this is the first time a pvp dev is honest with the community.
Good job
I think you are confusing open with honest, they are generally honest, they are just not open.
Given how ppl react to openness, it is usually better to not be too open, because players are too stupid, i.e the thread that was QQing about how the balance patch was suppose to be oct 1. even when they specifically said oct 15 on topic of the leaked patch notes.
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It will increase spam because you can use all the skills than switch and have 5 more skill.
Skill spam exist because the TTK ratio is too high and there is very little reward for smart play, skill interrupts not rewarding for example, it just prolongs the inevitable by a few seconds . Also it doesn’t hurt that the CD for skills are too low. That is why I like referencing the staff elementalist, a good chunk of their skills are situation while other classes skills are not. You can’t just spam the 4/5 the Staff elementalist skills, cuz it is a waste.
1. Add rewards to PvP so that it attracts more player, a lot of pvpers might disagree, but they are the first to whine how PvP is dead or how it isn’t growing.
2. get rid of 8v8, it gives players the wrong impression. Instead of being welcoming to new players, it just makes spvp seem like a constant zergfest, keep the zerg at WvW.
3. Do not add anything other than 5v5, a lot of people are going to argue otherwise, but bad idea unless spvp picks up significantly.
4. balance. Make every class like the elementalist, TTK in PvP is way too short, you can barely react depending on the class. Everything about them (ele) is obvious they have almost no passive play and their passive play is obvious and apparent and not in your face. Reduce the effect of pets/minions. and significantly reduce the damage of phantasm and put the damage back to the player (mesmer), Minions and pets should be ultilities not free Ai damage.
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If the HoH part would be real.. that would save this game. But it is from last year and nothing happened ever since that indicates these to happen anytime soon.
Also to the interview part, probably with Jeff Strain leaving, things took a new direction and PvP moved to exist in the mere shadow of PvE.
How would Halls save the game? Last I recalled HoH community killed itself.
but the GvG community lived on. Seems like HoH has less staying power.
Lack of new players and rank req. for entering a team is what killed HA. As the population was shrinking, worse teams had less and less chances to win a fight and new players who weren’t complete idiots couldn’t get into it, were forced to grief with PvE firsttimers. GvG went on because that was entirely a guild content and even PvE guild paticipated and were matched up with equal skilled enemies.
Which is exactly his point.
HA players did not want players without a high rank and the only way to get a high rank was to play and you couldn’t play without rank and the whole thing fell apart.
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My game works just fine for me personally. I’m not the only person having problems with the hair looking lower quality. There’s plenty of other posts about it going on. People playing with a lot more graphic intensive settings are reporting that same problem.
The in game graphics setting are not going to sufficient.
Let me give you an example, did you know that guild wars 2 has for some odd reason a white filter that makes things not clear and blurry? Which you ss shows.
anyways, just trying to help, well not you, but anybody that is complaining.
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Ele’s really arn’t that bad tbt, it just takes alot more skill to pull of than the other meta builds and its really the counters from classes and s/d thieves that shut eles down, nerf the other builds, dont change ele.
Well if it takes a lot more skill to pull off, wouldn’t that make them kind of bad? After all you’d want to compare fighters of similar proficiency in their classes.
I don’t get why people thinking overly complicated is good. Overly complicated is good only if:
1. Everything is equally complicated.
2. You get rewarded for being the overly complicated.
elementalist has neither going for it. Why put in 3 times the effort to be average or below avg, where you can put in zero effort and get a significantly higher result.
Doing math test without a calculator is nice, it makes you feel better, but why would you, if everybody else is using a calculator on that same test and getting a higher score than you.
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If the HoH part would be real.. that would save this game.
ONe of the most overused phrases on this forum, because the meta will shift to a new QQ.
Meta is bad, full of OP classes. But if I’d actually have something to play I wouldn’t care so much. But since we only have conquest with totally broken matchmaking and 0 reward, yes I think a tournament that has: progression, consecutive win bonus, gamemode and map variety and reward with a final map where the best teams can have their showdown in an open observer mode, all in one que, could really save this PvP scene.
When I said meta and did not mean current skill balance. I was talking about the general topic a QQ falls under and thus once this “oh we need new game mode” aka 1 of the many QQ metas, it will simply move to a new QQ. The point being is that they will always be QQ and the phrase “This will save the game” has no real meaning, because nothing will really change.
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Hey all, wasn’t sure where to put this so here it is.
After buying the hairstyle (the human one with the flower in it) I noticed it doesn’t look as “high-res” in game as it does in the hairstyle kit menu. I’m not sure if this is a graphic setting I can’t seem to find (I tried bumping everything to ultra, no difference), or if its just supposed to be lower quality. Is there a way I can get a refund for it or something for it? When I hit accept to use my kit I sort of expected the same quality as in the menu. In game it sorta looks unfinished.
ewwwwwwww, you game looks UGLY.
Get sweetfx and play with the setting you WILL thank me for that. And no, it simply just a directX modifier it doesn’t mess with the game files. You can also use sweetfx for any video game also.
Trust me, the game looks better and your character looks better and higher res. Maybe my memory is fuzzy but my toon hair looks a little better than that, I will have to remember to check when I get hom.
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It seems more likely a shelved project, I suspect they were working on it but their priorities changed.
Another possibility if this was just recently “discovered” was that Arenanet is doing it as a way to manipulate the easily manipulated GvG audience by giving them a false sense of hope and stringing them a long for a few months. Personally, I think that is the real reason.
Pretty good to see a generally even split among most classes (except Ele ofc). Mesmer representation was a little low but I think its going to swing back over the next few tournies
Does anet pay you? Wake up, gw2 is among the most unbalanced AAA PvP games
Then you haven’t played a lot of MMORPG, because in almost every forum there is always someone like you saying the same kitten, in guild wars 1 people were saying the same kitten. It is almost like balance is something that is never truly achievable.
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It’s funny reading at some of the skills comparison, we are suppose to be a support class, but our aura need to be traited to actually offer group support, while other classes get short CD support and and group support.
Makes you wonder the process Arenanet goes through for their so called balancing.
No. We are not supposed to be a support class. All professions are supposed to be able to DPS, defend, or support as well as any other.
Heck, the elementalist profession description even mentions something about doing high damage in a single attack to make up for toughness.
Anet trying to shoe-horn elementalist into a support role is one of the reasons ele is a joke of a class.
The two aspects of the game in which elementalists even approach something like desirability are in WvW zerging and possibly DPS in dungeons. The first is pretty much solely attributed to our fields. Elementalists aren’t desired at all—it’s their fields people want. And in dungeons, the most effective build for elementalists is…to play gimmicky conjured stuff and pretend to be a warrior by abusing lightning hammer or FGS.
Elementalists were the only profession that didn’t have a showing at the recent tournaments. That should tell you what the state of the profession is in.
you misunderstood what i was saying. The developers recently started calling us a “support” class and yet we suck at supporting or we don’t provide as good of a support as other class while also doing less damage.
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Funniest thing for me was the ranger calling himself The Guardian, did not dig too deep for that, or maybe he was being ironic or some hippy nonsense like that.
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But ~20 people zergs is possible to survive in an open space with dd
And then you fight one good tpvp player and get totally crushed.
We do not speak about people who are gods of this game and top world players. I speak about average level and it’s no point to compare skills. I’m just saying that with a proper build elementalist can survive zergs and help friendly raids to tactically win zerg fights, just watch videos I shared above…
I totally get what you are saying, I also get chased by 30 to 50 people and totally survived. I would do a video of it, but my computer cannot afford fraps and the other free video recording program that I know MSI, makes my computer crash.
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So sad..False hopes are bad…I wonder if even 15th oct will be the date…
This. This is why the devs can never post anything they are ever working on. This is why we never get dates. Because of posts like this. Congratulations.
Because waiting 4 months wasn’t long enough. Because the tiny 4k viewers turning into 1k isn’t sad. Because top players quitting is progress. Because the thousands of upset players isn’t enough. Because it’s so hashtagWorth
Yep, it’s so sad.
There isnt any pro player still playing gw2 :/
Who cares if they are no pro players playing guild wars 2, I certainly don’t. If you need the validation of some random player to enjoy a game, well you got issues and lots of it.
From my experience pro players are the first ones to leave an MMORPG (moba they don’t becasue of the huge cash prizes), so them leaving is just repeating history.
I will explain:
GW2 in a nutshell
Good players leave -> no good teams -> Mediocre teams winning tournaments -> tournaments uninteresting -> low viewership -> low cash prizes -> Good players leave -> Repeat x times -> … -> Game dead
That is a good point, but what IF you the reason you PvP was entirely because you enjoy the thrill of PvPing? What if, the reason some people PvP was simply because they enjoy PvP? I know it is so weird right, it is almost inhuman to think other players do things for non monetary gain.
Who cares if they are no pro players playing guild wars 2, I certainly don’t. If you need the validation of some random player to enjoy a game, well you got issues and lots of it.
From my experience pro players are the first ones to leave an MMORPG (moba they don’t becasue of the huge cash prizes), so them leaving is just repeating history.
Actually that’s very much wrong. Pro players from GW1 still play to this day (post-GW2-ocalypse).
They are always exceptions to the rule, just like newton’s law is not applicable once you hit subatomic level. (just as a heads up, I meant MMORPG not the whole spectrum of games).
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yeah ele is in bad sitiation but its only foult of buffing necros,wars and things like that , anet dont understand that they need to start nerfing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOT BUFFF , NERF!!!!!!
Lets say they gonna buff ele sustain somehow , ele will become OP with enough sustain making 15k dmg almoust intant when u cant even dodge that , thats how anet works , they are buffing buffing buffing.
PvP is dead and its anet foult , i have no idea how ppl respnsable for pvp can do stupid things like that . I thought Anet is company that can make good pvp game , they were talking about pvp , esport before realse thats why i bought this game and what??? ONE BIG BS.
cool story brah.
Saying PvP is dead doesn’t suddenly make it more dead than it was the first month after release or the last 100k times someone said it.
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So sad..False hopes are bad…I wonder if even 15th oct will be the date…
This. This is why the devs can never post anything they are ever working on. This is why we never get dates. Because of posts like this. Congratulations.
Because waiting 4 months wasn’t long enough. Because the tiny 4k viewers turning into 1k isn’t sad. Because top players quitting is progress. Because the thousands of upset players isn’t enough. Because it’s so hashtagWorth
Yep, it’s so sad.
There isnt any pro player still playing gw2 :/
Who cares if they are no pro players playing guild wars 2, I certainly don’t. If you need the validation of some random player to enjoy a game, well you got issues and lots of it.
From my experience pro players are the first ones to leave an MMORPG (moba they don’t becasue of the huge cash prizes), so them leaving is just repeating history.
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FYI this is why they don’t tell us what the patch notes are. If people like you are going to nit-pick at a single discrepancy which was already publicly addressed then how the hell do you expect them to release a fluid set of notes subject to change?
They said the patch will be on the 15th. Chill the kitten out people.
Fine but the context is that october 1st is already 2 months after people wanted changes. So don’f forget that. If they delay something which already got delayed for stupid reasons then people should not accept it.
We were told 2 weeks ago in an official pre-release balance patch notes that we will get balance on october 15, This automatically superceded any previous mentioned of october 1, to anybody that doesn’t like to QQ for the sake of QQ.
We have a lot to QQ about (as an ele I do), but this isn’t one of them.
Anyway who cares about spvp? Devs clearly don’t.
>> WvW seasons ftw
Yep, i agree, why would they care about a mode the wasted resources on.
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and real life DPS can be measured on him.
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