No. It seems more like an error than anything else. In the game lore (at this point in time) I think the risen are not around anymore since zhiatan is dead. But If I am wrong someone more verse in gw2 lore will correct me.
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If it isn’t instance it would be a zerg fest, I am going to assume you hate doing open world content.
They will be a zerg by virtue of being in the open world, assuming it is open world. If you hate seeing other players you might be playing the wrong game, slick.
zerging isn’t playing with other players, it’s chasing a big group just to farm loot.
also, playing in an open world can be done without a zerg fest, 20 ppl in the entire instance is plenty and can be scattered to take down the enemies.
I am saying OP is complaining about zerg, it is only natural that zergs will form. The reason why zergs are common in Gw2 is because of the nature of the game. Zergs form because the game doesn’t individualize everything like other MMORPG have done, there is no real reason to zerg in for example WoW because unless you are in a group you aint getting kitten done and also because the world doesn’t anything interesting in it, since everything is locked behind an instance.
The point being complaining about zerg is essentially to some degree rejecting seeing other players in the world because unlike other MMORPG in guild wars 2, most of the interesting things are outside for the world and not locked inside. So it is natural for excited players to congregate at the interesting point.
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If it isn’t instance it would be a zerg fest, I am going to assume you hate doing open world content.
They will be a zerg by virtue of being in the open world, assuming it is open world. If you hate seeing other players you might be playing the wrong game, slick.
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As a person dabbling in with a staff ele in PvP, I will be happy that they get buffed, but part of me would be sad because i can’t blame getting my butt kicked due to being severely underpowered.
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Go out side play with you friends/families take a break from the basement you live in
You should really take your own advice and do just that. The fact that a video game is making your resort to spying just to win something as pointless and meaningless as WvW, says more about you than any of us.
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You got me! I care that much about the game I log into a second account to spy on the spies, build loads of trebs and destroy all of your golems,
Oh I also spend hours and hours typing out your conversations in TS, I’m inside you jq and you don’t even know where I am…….I could even be in your team speak right now.
Or maybe just maybe you all take this game way way way to seriously and need to go outside and check out the real world
It’s funny watching you trying to ironic about it and play it off.
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Just the consent bad game design over the year. A lot of easy fixes but never implemented.
It is almost like they have to consider what is best for their game vs what is best for you. Also what is so easy that can be fix as fast as you claim?
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Crosshair wouldnt be so hot due to the way AoE skills work in this game. In an ideal world, I would have loved for Anet to design the combat around a crosshair like in TERA, but I suspect a lot of people would not have been happy about it.
I mean at release some ppl quit the game because it did not have auto follow target or click to move or something ridiculous.
I do wish they let mods though, but I doubt they will ever dedicate the time for something like that.
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The “sour grapes” responses from some of the SoR people are predictable, yet still disappointing. I remember fighting against you guys when the league was on, and you had better coverage than we did at TC and usually came out ahead of us, but we still tried every time. I remember one week we got second place and everyone was happy about that.
Now suddenly it’s “we can’t win so we are running off to EotM”. I mean, it’s a game, do what makes you happy, but it still comes across as quitting. And it’s really not what I expected.
Ever since I started GW2 I’ve felt that the constant transferring around of people and guilds made WvW into something of a joke, and this is all part of it. I chose TC when I joined knowing that it wasn’t the most populous server, and that we’d lose a lot of matches. It’s possible that once SoR is finished shamefully throwing their matches so they can “on purpose” go to T2 that TC will end up in T1. And win or lose I will do what I can to fight the good fight, without making excuses or trying to find someone willing to give me gold to abandon my friends.
If you guys end up in T2, I’ll be rooting for our current nemeses, SoS and FA. At least they make an effort most of the time.
We don’t like pv door and luring bg from their keeps. What’s wrong with preferring EotM? honestly, we don’t really care what you or others think about our server, lol.
Sorry playing tactically and against comparable opponents was “too hard” and “not fun” for you guys. Have fun beating up zerker pve pugs.
call it whatever you want. if you want to come “pwn” us with your mad skillz you know where to find us. i haven’t seen any bg guilds in eotm. wonder why?
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Just an outsider looking in, but I’m going to guess it’s because their server hasn’t given up and retreated to pugland.
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The game has 4 too many races, which lead to kittenty armor selection. The other races imo adds nothing significant to the game except more work and less armor choices for humans.
should have stuck to 1 race like gw1.
This multiple races lead to a blander story than gw1 and gw1 was already bland and generic.
2 main things:
-The nerf everything attitude, its just sad…
-Blandness of the loot across GW2 and how there’s a disconnect with the devs and players over rewarding loot.
Buffing everything is only going to lead to power creep, which is signficantly worst than nerfing. Especially since a form of PvP is linked to PvE.
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Well, I didn’t start this thread because of all the freaks having a blast in EoTM. It’s for the 10-20 people trying to carry the whole server and all the people sitting in LA who already rage quit.
I don’t blame them for rage quiting. They are in a bad situation, being in EotM is making the best of a bad situation.
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Irrespective of the e-kitten-waving contest between BG and JQ, as of this writing SoR is ticking +20 in the middle of a weekend, and that’s not good for anyone.
It doesn’t affect us in any way since we are all having a blast in EotM. Besides the faster we leave JQ/BG land the better it is for us. Admittedly, I will feel bad for the next team stupid enough to be in T1 with those 2 lame servers.
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I will say it is funny seeing some of the people that ditch SoR to easierland start to care how SoR is doing. If you did care you wouldn’t have left or at least move to another server within the same tier.
In any case, you guys made your beds, you might as well sleep in it. The people on SoR are going to do whatever they want, I suggest you outsiders do the same.
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As I wrote in the EotM forum, I think this update may, unintentionally, end up having a major negative impact on WvW as a whole. I’ve never seen such lopsided matchups in tier 1 and tier 2 in NA in the months since I started playing.
It makes sense on an individual level for people to prefer playing in EotM over getting destroyed in a matchup they can’t win. But it’s going to be really bad for WvW as a whole, due to guilds abandoning servers that aren’t even trying to win, and other effects. Especially tier 1, where we now have 2 dominant servers and no third to give them a run for their money.
Or it could be the wake up call the devs were searching for to end the ‘coverage wars’.
3 faction WvW, be it randomly assigned colour match ups, or people permanently choosing a faction/colour, is the only way to keep these 24 hour wars even remotely competitive.
I agree with everything you said, except the people choosing which faction to join. That should never ever be up to the individual, I mean people can choose by virtue of servers but it would be randomize if done correctly.
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Playing on your own terms means farming pugs? Thats not the SOR I was on.
And you are not on it anymore. So your comment means very little, I would say infinitesimal.
Also shouldn’t you be pooling together your money and buying more guilds?
ADDED: Also I find it ironic you seem to be angry about SoR going to EotM for “easy” fights when you are doing the exact same thing but far worst. Anyways, just for the record I don’t speak for SoR, I am simply an individual sick of the current system.
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choo spent the whole morning farming uplevel zerkers in eotm. Want to play for fights? come to eb.
The question is: why would we want to play you at your own terms? YOu got exactly what you wanted, overstacked servers and giant blobs. We get to play on our own terms with the added benefit that either we drop tiers OR jq and bg eventually destack (less likely).
The point being to have fun.
ADDED: the question is why do you guys care what we do? You got what you wanted and you play how you want. In a few weeks you can get another sucker to join t1.
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Our server has been on both ends of the spectrum when it comes to rolling or getting rolled.
FSP used to be a T1 EU server, until many guilds left.
But we kept fighting, even until we ended up in T7.
The nice thing about the tier system is, if you’re too bad for top tier, eventually you will drop down and fight servers you can handle.
Is it perfect? by no means, but you win some you loose some, that’s the way it goes.
In EoTM there is no winning or loosing, there’s just kitten ing around, it’s an empty brainless CoD style gamemode which has actually very little in common with the current wvw gamemode.
Really if the red vs blue vs green gamestyle was the best thing ever, the wvw maps would have been empty now, but they are not.
Cool EU story brah.
Why don’t you look at what is happening with NA? your cool community and blah blah might be working for you on your specific server or EU, but the other half the game it is not working too well.
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Servers aren’t shackles, they are communities.
Having wvw like it is now in EoTM at release might have been possible, now however it is much too late for such a change.
Except it isn’t like communities. Players ditch when things don’t go their way, well a significant percentage anyways AND it makes coverage a thing of the past.
The best thing about unshackling is the act that lower pop servers don’t have to worry about coverage or being outnumbered that outweighs whatever nonexistent server communities that exist.
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I like EoTM purely because I don’t have to worry about getting outnumbered, but I think it is too early to be praising EotM.
We still don’t know the long term effect of EotM, maybe in a few months players will be QQing at how bad EotM is or maybe the alternative. The point being a lot of people seem overly excited about EotM and this excitement doesn’t seem to be looking at the long run when things settle down and when people get used to.
I will say that they should unshackle WvW from servers and make it like the current EotM, but link all rewards and bonus to individual contribution and have multiple but finite number of WvW maps (4 WvW instances) and all the scores from the 4 instances add up to a total to represent and you can select what instance an of WvW to participate in. That IMO removes all coverage and stacking problems (I hope) and every week you randomize the red, blue and green teams.
contrary to what people here are saying, if you look at the evidence EoTM wasn’t designed for NA/EU, but china. The current population caps wouldn’t be able to handle the amount of WvWers in china.
Or, it could have been initially conceived a year ago.
I mean, even if you assume that the WvW team could design, texture, and code the thing in 6 months… (while the artists and programmers are also hard at work implementing Gem Store content and Living Story releases)
I’m sure they still did some in-house alpha testing before the invite-only beta last October.
If I had to guess, they’d probably been planning it since the end of 2012 at least.
Yes, I’m sure that it’ll help with China… but they may have initially conceived the idea when there were high wait times on most servers. (Back when there were consistently overflows for most zones.)
I hope you do know that guild wars 2 was always intended to go to China.
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contrary to what people here are saying, if you look at the evidence EoTM wasn’t designed for NA/EU, but china. The current population caps wouldn’t be able to handle the amount of WvWers in china.
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That would be a nice trade off, then you remember Arenanet is brilliant when it comes to balancing and they will probably do the same great job they did with the elementalist in Guild wars 1.
Ah, the famous stomp to the ground and leave there to rot for few years.
When the buffs then finaly come any people still remaining sure as hell will appreciate them
I am sure all those people that were still playing in 2012 were so excited about those changes. I mean it only took 5 years after the fact to fix the elementalist, better late than never I suppose. something is better than nothing.
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The best thing about EotM, is that BG can JQ can fight amonst themselves.
I don’t have to deal with two overstack servers, I can go into the EotM and have fun, while BG and JQ can fight each other.
In a way, with no competition it might actually give BG an incentive to destack, since the people that enjoy WvW can go do EoTM and completely avoid WvW proper and the overstack BG and JQ (relative to SoR), will soon realize having no one to fight against isn’t that fun. (I doubt it will change, but at least I can have my fun on EoTM).
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My point is that Anet is flat out saying they failed with the current maps then. They are giving up on them if they are adding this map.
I mean we do not have season 2, so there is not need to win the weekly match up. You can just hop into the new map, fight, get WvW xp and have a better experience.
There is zero incentive to return to the current bl’s. Why would you not improve the current ones instead of this?
Actually what it says is that ARenanet realize that the amount of chinese players would not be enough to fit into the current WvW maps, so they created an overflow for them.
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Remember when silk was 8 copper and they had an overabundance of it? well that was why.
I doubt Anet is going to change it, since it screws the people before and it doesn’t destroy the value for silk and it gives more reason for people to savage stuff, which reduces the influx of gold and or it gets people to do gem to gold. This benefits Anet and benefits me since I can sell my stuff for a lot of money, then I can build a house and rule the Tyria (planet not continent).
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A correct tradeoff for such squishiness would be damage level “wow you gotta be kiddin’ me” able to turn the tides of a big battle.
That would be a nice trade off, then you remember Arenanet is brilliant when it comes to balancing and they will probably do the same great job they did with the elementalist in Guild wars 1.
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A traditional caster is static while doing a lot of damage. A static caster is traditional is a risk/reward role and the Elementalist has only two skills which fit this mold: Meteor Shower and Churning Earth.
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Everything you said was on the mark until this part. The ability to move while casting has nothing to do with being a caster. Tradition for the sake of tradition is dumb and pointless. Other game did it because they couldn’t do it initially and over time it became the norm.
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But really thing is: why does it need to be balanced. Escaping into the tower I could see as an issue because as you say it gets problematic when a large amount of elementalists get organized. But beyond that, why would I want to reduce class uniqueness?
Because stomping is annoying and clunky, what is more annoying is to be forced to stomp twice. The only saving grace is that there is a way to secure the stomp for every profession other than elementalist. I rather elementalist be rebalanced and have a way to be stomped in vapor form than an unstompable vapor form.
Just remove the stomp mechanic — it’s not useful anyway.
Or don’t remove it because it makes things more interesting.
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They can do this in exchange for giving eles 5k more base health.
Tbh… I don’t think that would fix ele’s problems… personally I would rather them do thinks like fix RTL to not go on 40s cd because of a block etc…
I’m not some ele hater, don’t get me wrong… I’m not crying nerf ele. I have an ele and I play her every day, and ele does need some love. But the downed states overall just need balancing.
Because the only weapons elementalist use is x/d. 5k hp will help not only x/d, it will help the whole class.
In any case, I would rather have slightly more hp, but more active defense.
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Hi all. I am new lvl 80 aand i wanna plsy healer elemental in doungen. Which yraits is best and whic gear set i must prefer?
I would kick you so hard it wouldn’t be funny. Except for the fact that the player self heal is the most effective heal available. you staying in water is actually SIGNIFICANTLY slowing the part down and like the others have said, I might hate the zerker meta, but I don’t like people being useless in my group (then again I barely like group activity, so my anger is going to be amplified by playing with someone that is being dumb), either.
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The Living Story seems better because while it has a group of NPCs involved in it they don’t take a lead role. It is your character taking the lead still.
That’s certainly what we’re trying to do. Over time, you should notice a shift in how the characters refer to you and how your role evolves.
Well that sucks. One of the things I loved about the personal story was that the character player wasn’t the star of the show. Every single game seems to revolve around the player character coming in and fixing everything, what made gw2 different was that the player was only assisting the hero (Trahearne). It made the world seem like it could function without the character and that everybody is to some degree competent and not just the player character.
The main problem I see with Trahearne is that he is the hero in what was called “personal story”, you guys should have just name the main story, “campaign”.
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New classes: good luck with that. Theyc an barely handle the current 8.
New Races: good luck with that, they can barely design armor for the current 5.
New PvE maps: why bother? players don’t bother with new maps after the initial hype and DE don’t seem to have enough draw on their own to keep people on new maps. The question is why bother, when it taeks less work to make a cash shop item.
New weapon type: good luck with that, they can barely make decent skills for the current weapons.
Housing: Honestly, I personally don’t see the point of them. What exactly do they add?
The point being don’t expect any of those things until the base game is fully fixed. The base game has a lot of issues that adding any of those things will only make worse.
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I always thought that the kits/banners/summons/etc all met your weapon’s stats at time of swap/summon.
In fact, the whole case of engineer kit/summoned weapons, banners, and ranger pets stats being based around a set tier is the best proof, that ascended weapons (and vertical progression) weren’t envisioned in this game at all, and were just a quick and pooorly designed later addition.
Or it could be proof that they did not want to make everybody except engineers and elementalist ascended weapon, which would be unfair. The point being it is not proof, you just did not want to consider the other side of the argument, because it did not suit your narrative.
With that said they are better reasons why ascended weapons were not envisioned, but what you said is not one of them. The simple fact that they were no in the original release is the most important proof. Then again, even if it is proof what difference does it make at this stage?
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They would have to be careful on the loot in there, as it could be easy to exploit, 2 guilds who are friends go in and take turns in killing each other in the “casual WvW”
How is that different from the current WvW?
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Rune sets will receive a general balance pass to bring them in line with each other. This will increase the amount of viable rune options.
The English language called and suggested the word you might be looking for every time “viable” gets thrown around incorrectly in these parts is “competitive”.
Viable – as in ‘alive’ – is a standard pretty much achieved if loading up a particular set of traits/gear/what-have-you doesn’t cause the game to crash.
Nearly all builds are viable – only a handful are competitive.
Guild wars 2 called it is reminding you that PvE exist and competitive is not what I would describe it as. I doubt they are only focusing on PvP.
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Elementalist: Our changes for the elementalist focus on increasing sustain while maintaining the delicate balance between damage and durability. We achieved this by adding more defensive effects to a few main-hand weapon sets.
Signet of Restoration: Removed the split on this skill so that the signet passive heal amount will be increased in PvP to match the current PvE amount.
Armor of Earth: Reduced recharge from 90 seconds to 75 seconds.
Water Trident: Added 3 seconds of regeneration to up to 5 allies in the radius.
Burning Speed: This ability now evades attacks.
Frozen Burst: This ability is now a blast finisher.
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Glyph of Storms -> Sandstorm, This skill is now combo finisher Whril.
Still doesn’t fix the whole sustain issue they are claiming to be fixing. Also I don’t know why that skill isn’t combo finisher it screams combo finisher.
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Is this so that all the feedback since the stream can be complied into one place? Most of this has been discussed at length.
Elementalist changes I am fine with. Is there more though?
Is focus being looked at or do you feel that focus is fine?
Personally, I think cantrips need their CD a little lower. And Auras need to proc per 1/2 second instead of 1 second.
Other that these changes are terrible. I am not exactly sure how that will improve our sustain? We have to go extremely defensive because our damage mitigation are either on a long CD or don’t work effectively to mitigate damage or we don’t have enough on damage mitigation. I am still not sure how any of the suggestions improves elementalist sustain.
Essentially, we have to wait for months for barely any meaningful changes. Am I mad, nope, am I surprise not really.
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And yet there’s been no fix. I don’t understand how something can be a high priority bug fix and take so long.
This may not impact PvE players very much, but it’s extremely annoying to die in a 1v1 due to a bug, or when fighting in big groups, getting rolled over by a zerg because you are unable to move.
It’s especially irritating in that, since it seems like you are immobilized, you often blow your condi cleanse to try and get out of it, only to realize too late that it’s the “stuck bug.”
This bug apparently happens when you get CC’d and then use a teleportation-like skill. CC is extremely common in WvW, and you use teleportation skills to move to safety. This is a very big deal for WvW players. Please, please give this bug some attention.
Let me ask you this, when was the last time we got skill patch? Arenanet doesn’t fix skills unless it is a priority (just because it is a priority for you doesn’t mean it is for Arenanet), otherwise you pretty much have to wait and hope it gets fixed during the feature patch in march or april.
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Anybody remember how OP diamond skin was suppose to be? The point being it is better just to wait it out then to have a very very very lackluster skills.
Forcing every elementalist to depend on regen and protection (elemental attunement’s best effects) is forcing every elementalist to continue to invest on water (healing power) and arcana (boon duration), and forcing every elementalist to be rendered useless by every single boon stripping build in existence.
We need more stat-independent defenses, and we need our weakest defensive skills/ effects buffed. Burning Speed’s evasion and Armor of Earth’s lower cooldown fit perfectly into this.
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I don’t want to be that guy, but towards the very end of guild wars 1 circa 2012, the elementalist was redesigned because it sucked so in PvE I don’t remember their place in PvP though, so no comment on that. However, just like in gw2 our elites were often outclassed by basic skills.
you would think the folks at arenanet will take inspiration from gw1, but I guess that would be a no.
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