HoT Price Feedback + Base game included [merged]
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Posted by: sorudo.9054
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Posted by: sorudo.9054
Black Desert looks like it is a free to play Korean game, which means it will most likely be just another Korean grinding game. So have fun with that.
dont be naive and jump to conclusions without research. it wont be free to play but still looks very promising. they making same promisses as anet did to us. paying once, no endless grinding and a thoughtfull storyline. if it will give 3 years of fun for 50 dollars itll be a good deal again. 50 dollars for a couple hours grinding on a new map with masteries, kiting, one raid and a new class etc (wich u cant even enjoy on the old maps) seems a poor deal. easy to judge a new game tho, id rather test it out since its same price as some small expansions are.
I did do research, here are some examples:
http://www.freemmostation.com/games/black-desert-online/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_DesertEvery indication I am seeing is that it is a free to play game. Also it is Korean. Haven’t seen a Korean MMO not be a grinding bore fest as of yet, so this will be a shocker if it is any different.
BD has grind, GW2 has that too, the difference is that DB has plenty to fill the gap, in GW2 you’re searching for something to do in order to not get bored.
oh i hope so much that ppl keep the illusion of “this is top tier”, that way exotic tier because that way i can finally gear up my lvl 80 characters without losing all my gold.
playing S2LS without HoT is like reading lord of the rings the two towers without reading the fellowship of the ring (altough, LOTR has a story with tons and tons more lore and depth then Anet can ever make), i do think that if they are so generous then they should include this in HoT.
if anything, add this in their deluxe pack, it’s expensive enough so adding S2 with it to at least let new players know the whole deal around why HoT exists.
lol, i have absolutely no ascended gear except for laurel gear, never ever had anything dropped worth a gold, never ever had anything good from the MF(only even less worth crap) and to top it all of, at most i had 30 gold at one time.
you think you have bad luck, please tell me how unlucky you are……
funny, an outfit that looks good is complained about but for some reason a butt ugly armor i would not even wish my worst enemies is appreciated……WTF?
They want those who bought HoT in the beta to test all all the changes to previous and new elite specializations. They want to test out the new critter AI and how it scales. They want to show players how interesting just one portion of one map is like.
The countdown to release is on.
And … if you don’t own HoT, that at least informs you why the maps aren’t as full as they normally are on a Friday night.
with a message that is pushed in your face till you’re sick of it makes it more a “i pester you till you do it” thing, ppl who don’t own HoT don’t care anyhow so why should they get pestered with it……..they are only more likely to leave till they quit doing that.
well, if the defiant becomes more powerful then any other prof then it’s essentially P2W, you pay money to play a prof that has a higher advantage.
also, if HoT gives you stuff you can’t get in the core game which gives you an advantage over core-only owners then it would, no matter how you spin it around, make it P2W.
i like most of them but can’t get any of them, ain’t that a bugger…..
just a hint….
got an update, he got his account (old) back so what you ppl say is BS.
sorry guy’s but it’s time you confirm your advise.
this is the same thing as the “unique” thing.
Dont forget gw2 is not like other games .. we always keep getting new stuff !
Sure, sure. In 3 years, we got in game:
- Illustrious armor (the ascended one)
- Glorious armor (the PvP one) and its reskin, Glorious Hero
- Carapace and its reskin, Luminescent
- Hellfire armor
- Radiant armor
Meanwhile, the Gem Store got:
- Aetherblade armor
- Primeval armor
- Braham’s armor
- Phalanx armor
- Flamewrath armor
- Zodiac armor
- Rampart armor
- And 24 (!!!) outfits
So yeah, we definitely keep getting stuff… In the Gem Store. We got even less armors in-game than in the Gem Store, and that’s considering how ArenaNet said they would focus the Gem Store in outfits, not in armors.
They made that statement after they started doing outfits. You can’t make their statement retroactive and then accuse them of lying.
in GW1 we had in one year more new armors in-game then we have gem store armor skins in GW2, in my eyes they have become extremely lazy.
In GW1, you had only humans to play as which is much different than what we have in GW2. More work is required to create GW2 armor than GW1 armor.
nope, the same work is required, the model in GW2 can be used for GW1 just as easy, only the skin is made specifically for ether.
also, most models are made for humans and adjusted for other races, the only “extra” work is for the charr and even with that it’s half the work then normal. (only one model made)
i think it’s a bug, somehow outfits don’t remember dye’s properly.
My brother was playing with my acc and equppied this armour… how do i un equip it… loks weird on a necromancer -.- please PM or reply!
press H
click on outfits
in the equipped icon there is a V
unselect it and the outfit is hidden.
Dont forget gw2 is not like other games .. we always keep getting new stuff !
Sure, sure. In 3 years, we got in game:
- Illustrious armor (the ascended one)
- Glorious armor (the PvP one) and its reskin, Glorious Hero
- Carapace and its reskin, Luminescent
- Hellfire armor
- Radiant armor
Meanwhile, the Gem Store got:
- Aetherblade armor
- Primeval armor
- Braham’s armor
- Phalanx armor
- Flamewrath armor
- Zodiac armor
- Rampart armor
- And 24 (!!!) outfits
So yeah, we definitely keep getting stuff… In the Gem Store. We got even less armors in-game than in the Gem Store, and that’s considering how ArenaNet said they would focus the Gem Store in outfits, not in armors.
They made that statement after they started doing outfits. You can’t make their statement retroactive and then accuse them of lying.
in GW1 we had in one year more new armors in-game then we have gem store armor skins in GW2, in my eyes they have become extremely lazy.
you can put lipstick on a pig but it’s still a pig….
a friend of mine made a trail account a while ago with free weekend events, he wants to get his account back but lost his pass.
however, when he asks to reset his pass he is asked for the serial key, something he doesn’t know. (and the one i gave is lost)
he then wants to make a new account and again is asked for a serial key, something he doesn’t have.
so now what, how can he get his account back?
i would rather have an outfit token, really don’t like it and rather have the long robe.
what about no marriage at all, it will be the open world PvP kind of harassment all over again but soft mode
One of the name options said in parentheses that the statue would be back, implying that the other option didn’t have the statue.
We voted for the option without the parentheses, and now it is gone.
we voted different then what the other we did, you base the votes on popular ones, not what everyone voted.
also, there should’ve never be an option to remove the statue, LA is not LA without it’s symbol just as old LA is not LA without it’s fountain.
wait, there are quests…where, love to do them…
then again, old LA (in GW1) never had that problem, maybe it’s time they make a huge dam and suck the river dry, we need LA back.
if it’s called daredevil, why is it staff and not dual hand wands……..i mean, daredevil has two sticks, gambit is the one with a long polearm…
what about calling the guardian elite spec asgardian
IMO the rifle right now is done the wrong way, only two profs can use them and even they only use them as a blunderbuss. (a mid aged shotgun)
for one they should rename it to blunderbuss, then they can always add the rifle again but this time the right way.Well, there are limits to how much they can do with a rifle. I mean, realistically, rifles should be like 5000 range weapons, Longbows too, but that would be OP. Rifles in GW2 are just slightly longer range and less flexible pistols.
well sure, but they could at least make the skills reflect the weapons, both profs who can use them don’t use them as any more then a blunderbuss.
*Guardian = Hawk-Eye
Either way, no one would like the guardian. :P
(Like srsly, who likes Hawkeye?)
i like him, not a fan but i like him.
if it’s a trail then i hope it’s spammed with chat limitations, if they really are gonna make the core game free then i expect them to put HoT in every account who payed at least €70,- for their account.
i payed €150,- for GW2 + all the gems i payed for, making the core game free would be the worst move of the history of Anet and that includes the first trait system change and the NPE veterans are getting sick and tired of.I paid 0,15€ for my cell phone a year and a half after it was released though people bought it for more than 100€ at release. Should I have a limited autonomy, less space to save my data on it? Should the first customers be granted the next generation for free?
In both cases the first customers enjoyed the phone or the game ahead, that is something new customers won’t have anymore. In the case of the game you experienced season 1 and 2 in live for free which will not happen for new customers. You paid for being here when it was trendy.
i paid so they can make HoT, later purchases didn’t make such a big contribution.
also, you don’t get less when you buy it later on, you get just as much just without the benefit of buying it earlier.
if it’s a trail then i hope it’s spammed with chat limitations, if they really are gonna make the core game free then i expect them to put HoT in every account who payed at least €70,- for their account.
i payed €150,- for GW2 + all the gems i payed for, making the core game free would be the worst move of the history of Anet and that includes the first trait system change and the NPE veterans are getting sick and tired of.
IMO the rifle right now is done the wrong way, only two profs can use them and even they only use them as a blunderbuss. (a mid aged shotgun)
for one they should rename it to blunderbuss, then they can always add the rifle again but this time the right way.
warrior is better called rhino or juggernaut
question this first, which server/region?
ill go to any server in NA
pity, i run 2 guilds but in the EU region.
if im from NA i can still play on an eu server right?
AFAIK nope, not when you already chose the NA region.
I find it interesting that this was suggested a week ago and it went nowhere.
Yet this thread suddenly boomed.
weeks?…..try months, i already suggested this months ago and it was kicked out of sight within a day…..
heh, 1G/h would already be a win for me, never ever got 10G/h
question this first, which server/region?
ill go to any server in NA
pity, i run 2 guilds but in the EU region.
ppl who screwed up Anet get fired and the original GW team comes back?
….what, it would at least be good news.
so ppl with less time on their hands which want to use it more on playing the actual game are always screwed?…….
question this first, which server/region?
A handful of Birthday titles were datamined a few months back.
[Spoiler=Rosebud…] 1 Loyal
2 Veteran
3 Faithful
4 Relentless
5 Devoted
6 Steadfast
7 Dedicated
8 Committed
9 Unwavering
[/spoiler]
some of them are HoM titles…
anyway, what use does a finisher have in PvE?……
really, in GW every single birthday present was useful in every mode, apparently they don’t see the benefit to do that in GW2.
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If a player is so hesitant to purchase an expansion with so much info made available to them, and would prefer to wait until they see reviews first, would you really consider them loyal?
If, in the end, the player actually ends up purchasing the product (and thereby financially supporting the company), then…yes?
Anyone who makes a repeat purchase from a company is showing customer loyalty.
That’s not what I’m saying. What you’re calling loyal is similar to someone who supports a sports team only when it’s performing well.
but that’s the thing, they don’t perform well, they perform overwhelmingly bad.
it’s as if you pay €50,- for a team that loses every single time, i am a loyal player but i know when to stop paying and to start showing concern.
in GW1 we have exclusive crafters, they are the kind of crafters with unique skins.
like the 15K armor, you can only get it from that specific crafter and they are relatively expensive.
now i was thinking, the only thing simular are dungeon armors but you have to do a dungeon instead of letting the crafter craft it’s work.
so what if we have a crafter in the world that can craft exclusive armor in exchange of the correct mats+gold, it doesn’t have to be worldly expensive but the crafter could be quite a long way out of the normal play areas. (like deep in orr or somewhere most players just don’t go to).
why not as a recipe you might ask, these skins can only be crafted by this specific crafter because of tradition, they don’t share their technique to anyone else but their own family.
i personally think skins are ether gained way to easy or way to hard, there is no middle road where you can just take mats and go to a crafter.
The original city was founded by Elonians who had Lions. To them, it was a reminder of home. After the city was destroyed, the people kittenettled it much much later had no real connection to the original rulers of the city. They were pirates and sailors. That history is long behind them.
It doesn’t really surprise me that the Captain’s Council elected to choose their own identity rather than an identity that was further removed.
Of course, the original Lions are still there, underwater.
some original building pieces of new amsterdam is still in new york but despite that, it’s still called new york……
i ant them to support paysavecard and IDEAL but that isn’t gonna happen any time soon ether.
unless they remove all the boosters and “bonus” items (like instant bank access, trading post tokens, etc..) it’s not worth a single penny.
And what would be in them then? Nothing? Just a 30% chance for a ticket and nothing else? How in the world would that be better, opening one up and getting nothing at all. Maybe the bank accesses, merchants, etc.. don’t have high value but I do use them and I certainly wouldn’t want them taken out and replaced with nothing at all.
in the 3 years i have only got 4 scraps, not full tickets but scraps.
just think for a sec, what do you get when you remove the junk, exactly.
you get ether the scraps or the full tickets, the reason why pretty much everyone uses BL chests.ANet tried selling weapon skins directly from the gem store with the first set of weapons. The second set was by RNG. Every set after that was by RNG. This tells you that they got more money by selling a chance at a ticket and not by direct sales. Since people like chance better, then the scraps and ticket will remain by chance and not from every chest. The individual person might say they don’t like it but ANet has proven to its satisfaction that the group does, and that chance is where the money is.
there are players and there are fools, not my fault there are more fools then players.
Anet sees that too and takes advantage of that, anything beside that is simply mute at this point.ANet is a business and like every business they go where the money is. If the money is in RNG grab bag boxes, well, then RNG grab bag boxes is what they will have. If you have a business and you offer straight purchases and RNG purchases and people pay more for the RNG, then let’s see you refuse the money for RNG and offer the straight up purchase only. People will be saying that you’re taking advantage if you offer the RNG but you’re only offering what people actually want to buy, like any smart business.
in short: taking advantage of fools who can’t think further then desire.
so the question now is, should it still be called lions arch or something else?
it has nothing to do with LA, not one single bit, even the smallest single prove of it’s origin is destroyed ether by the rebuild or by scarlet.
call it stillwater or something, don’t use a popular name and have a city that has nothing to do with anything the name suggests.
unless they remove all the boosters and “bonus” items (like instant bank access, trading post tokens, etc..) it’s not worth a single penny.
And what would be in them then? Nothing? Just a 30% chance for a ticket and nothing else? How in the world would that be better, opening one up and getting nothing at all. Maybe the bank accesses, merchants, etc.. don’t have high value but I do use them and I certainly wouldn’t want them taken out and replaced with nothing at all.
in the 3 years i have only got 4 scraps, not full tickets but scraps.
just think for a sec, what do you get when you remove the junk, exactly.
you get ether the scraps or the full tickets, the reason why pretty much everyone uses BL chests.ANet tried selling weapon skins directly from the gem store with the first set of weapons. The second set was by RNG. Every set after that was by RNG. This tells you that they got more money by selling a chance at a ticket and not by direct sales. Since people like chance better, then the scraps and ticket will remain by chance and not from every chest. The individual person might say they don’t like it but ANet has proven to its satisfaction that the group does, and that chance is where the money is.
there are players and there are fools, not my fault there are more fools then players.
Anet sees that too and takes advantage of that, anything beside that is simply mute at this point.
i will wait a year or so, every new windows regardless of time spent testing and fixing isn’t worth it till a year later.
It won’t still be free this time next year.
not officially no
unless they remove all the boosters and “bonus” items (like instant bank access, trading post tokens, etc..) it’s not worth a single penny.
And what would be in them then? Nothing? Just a 30% chance for a ticket and nothing else? How in the world would that be better, opening one up and getting nothing at all. Maybe the bank accesses, merchants, etc.. don’t have high value but I do use them and I certainly wouldn’t want them taken out and replaced with nothing at all.
in the 3 years i have only got 4 scraps, not full tickets but scraps.
just think for a sec, what do you get when you remove the junk, exactly.
you get ether the scraps or the full tickets, the reason why pretty much everyone uses BL chests.
i will wait a year or so, every new windows regardless of time spent testing and fixing isn’t worth it till a year later.
i see hearts as a waste of time, quests are far better in every aspect.
you can have more quests in one place, it keeps you entertained and you have a way to expand the story for every area of the map.
hearts just are there, you finish them and the whole area becomes useless, depending solely on DE’s.
i wish they added quests, doesn’t have to be the boring “kill 5 rabbits” kind but quests nonetheless.
unless they remove all the boosters and “bonus” items (like instant bank access, trading post tokens, etc..) it’s not worth a single penny.
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