Guild Wars 2

They only said ring and amulets. But fear not, for 40 laurels and 50 ectos, both of which you can get in WvW you’ll be able to get accessories too! Now matter how much of a scam it is obviously.

Actually, WoW Unique doesn’t mean the same thing than in GW2. In WoW, a Unique item is an item where it’s impossible for you to even own two copies. In GW2 you can own multiple copies but can only equip one at a time.

WoW system is much more user friendly here since the store will refuse to sell a second copy to you.

I hope those infusions have agony resist or else I’m not happy that I have to farm now TWO ascended sets, one for PvE and one for WvW.

And what about those kitten laurels again? I don’t have enough for two alts already and I got more than that. With each patch playing GW2 is more and more of a pain :/

I’ve had a similar issue on Southstone with my thief. Against the Drake Broodmother. The huge poison duration she would apply, if I tried to cure it quickkly after it was applied with the signet, it wouldn’t get removed at all. It was very weird. There is something wrong going on with condition removal in PvE.

So much complaining. Back slot items have never been a good source of stats and that Fervid Censer is just the EASIEST 5 agony resist slotable item ever given to us. Better, it’s only account bound so I guess you can move it around as needed.

I guess that was why Epic changed Unreal Tournament UT99 domination game type with points ticking while you control an area to the double domination gametype in UT2k3 with points given when a team controls both areas for 10 seconds straight. Once the point was given, areas would return to neutral and players would respawn from start.

Wasn’t Deep Wounds very strong because it reduced all received heals by 20% rather than for the max HP reduction?

Catapults kinda cost 50 supplies to build too compared to the cheap 10 supply traps.

In PvE and WvW, any sigil (even the green ones) that increases Daze duration should give you one full second more of Daze through some rounding GW2 does. Try that it’s worth it :p

In most cases, this trap will be a non factor for roaming thieves because of the cost. But it doesn’t make it ok either. The random situations where it’ll proc will feel like that : random. Like the game decided to kill you for no good reason at all. Like if you stumbled onto a forgotten trap that wasn’t even put here by the player you were fighting.

And all that, I fail to see why the debuff has to be 30s long. I mean, if it was meant as an anti zerg stealth tool, why put such a huge revealed debuff on it? Wouldn’t 10s be more than enough?

The only situation where 30s revealed instead of 10s matters is when a Thief that had heavily invested in Shadow Arts gets hit by it.

gabal.4520:

I’m sorry but stealth isn’t thief’s core gameplay mechanic that shouldn’t be countered – it is having initiative counter instead of cooldowns on your spells.

And now about traps – do they cost badges AND karma or one of that two? Anybody tried it yet? Do you even see it when enemy triggers it?

Except that a Thief in stealth unlocks new skills to use, something no other class can do. Stealth IS for a Thief a profession mechanic.

Boag.8645:

Trap doesn’t prevent you from attacking / dodging / healing, just no stealth. So for 30 sec thieves have to l2p like the rest of us non-stealthers.

It prevents the thief from using some of his skills for 30s. It makes all stealth skills/utilities useless for that duration and make it impossible to land a Backstab, Tactical Strike and the like.

I don’t see that reduced dps on weapons/kits. I find my engineer to be rather strong on that point.

Of course, I’m taking into account the fact that practically all our weapons are ranged so I don’t compare my DPS to a GS warrior. Ranged weapons all have rather weak DPS. Except engineer grenade kit.

Our toolbelt skills are weaker than utilities yes. But we got 4 of them.

As I said already, if you compare an engineer with 1 kit to another standard class, you got :
- Engineer got 1s CD weapon swap instead of 5/10s
- Engineer got 1 less utility skill
- Engineer got 4 toolbelt skills which are tiny utilities

So, isn’t the loss of one utility skill worth getting 1s CD only on weapon swap and 4 toolbelt skills?

The OP post can be summed as :

Engineers are different, they need to be the same for balance.

A game where everyone plays the same class with same weapon and same skills would be balanced yes. But it’s not the only way to achieve it. Asking ANet to make all classes the same will not improve the game.

There’s no need to change Backstab such. The longer you take to land a backstab, the more likely you are to land a facestab instead.

tigirius.9014:

Actually it is when a class is under the classification of a DPS heavy classification such as adventurer.

ANet never said adventurer class = DPS. So why do you expect that?

Short answer : yes.

Long answer : yes they do.

Nokaru.7831:

Doesn’t matter what’s right or wrong this is the answer.

Their answer doesn’t matter. I and many others would like WvW more if the sieges were more constrained to prime time.

Nokaru.7831:

This is the official response by ArenaNet to this issue:

ANet isn’t immune to doing the things wrong.

Aion had a much better and thrilling siege system :p

This seem like a very fine explanation for the weird Retaliation damage values shown. ANet forgot to flag the 3 BL maps as WvW and they are still counted as pure PvE maps.

Grimwolf.7163:

What…. You do know if you, say, Cluster Bomb with BV up, you aren’t going to petrify the entire group, right?

This. BV like all venoms lose one charge per affected target in an AoE situation.

Though the idea is sound. BV + Venom Share + Thief Guild + Ambush Trap would give a solo thief player some heavy disable potential :p

It probably means that all the tools for all classes used to block those projectiles don’t work anymore though.

ArchonWing.9480:

Well, let me try to look at this from the other side.

Is MF food selfish?

One of the MF foods is the only food with +20% boon duration that I know of. Is that one selfish? The usual MF/GF food though is pretty much so.

But unless everyone in the group is going on with correct food there’s no right to complain :p

I disagree with that all about engineer. I do think we are expected to take one kit as part of our utilities yeah but what? Engineer is a class that :
- has no weapon swap by default
- can get one weapon swap per utility slot used. If you get two utilities for it, we got more swaps than all other classes except elem
- has no cooldown on weapon swap
- has a toolbelt profession mechanic that means we don’t really lose utility slots when we equip kits

All in all, I think it’s a rather nice trade off. You take a 1 kit build it gives us compared to other classes :
- 2 weapons, same as them
- 0.5s weapon swap CD compared to 10s (or 5s warriors with trait)
- 6 utilities + 1 heal. Yeah 4 of those utilities are a little weaker but it’s still more than 3 utilities + 1 heal. We trade 1 utility for 4 toolbelt utilities in the end.

Ryuujin.8236:

Another point of consideration is that engineer’s primary weapons are nothing to write home about

Not true. Engineer P/P is one of the most awesome (if not the best) weapon set to apply damaging conditions

Deniara Devious.3948:

The fact remains: engineer downed skill #2, grappling line, is the worst joke in this game and mesmer #2, deception, is far better.

I won’t comment on the mesmer part but the engineer #2 is better than the warrior #2 at the minimum. The pull part isn’t that bad either. It does more damage, is instant cast compared to a 1s cast and the pull is more useful than a knockdown.

MaXi.3642:

how can someone complain about this? almost all downed skills have a counter (except of ele and thief, lowest hp profs), its ok as it is…

Thief is counterable by teleporting to him in midstomp. Mesmer isn’t counterable since the stomp WILL fail if the mesmer is still in stealth at the end of the cast. With a 3s stealth duration on his skill #2, I fail to see how it can fail if you don’t attack.

Some projectiles cannot be reflected or destroyed like Trebuchets rocks. Others cannot be reflected but can be destroyed.

Arrow carts are neither of those situations. It’s not a projectile it’s an AoE damage over time zone.

The answer is simple : average party MF in dungeons.

Diablo III failed doing it correctly because even without MF sharing, it was much more profitable farming alone than in a group. In Diablo III, groups take longer to kill mobs because they get more health and more damage the more players there are. In fact, the “not sharing MF” part they did was more like one of the many incentives to group they created than some better system for handling MF.

In GW2, we don’t have such issues. If you want to farm a dungeon, you get a full group because going alone only means taking 5 times longer to kill stuff for the exact same reward.

Theftwind.8976:

I run with the Ancient Karka Shell which has a 3% inherent magic find. I also have Lunaria, Circle of the Moon with an inherent 4% magic find.

Celestial items serve a role that no other items in the game can provide even ignoring MF.

And all that doesn’t matter because we are talking about people that take stuff like Explorer’s sets when they could have chosen Berserker and just be objectively more useful to their group in every situations.

gfox.6501:

That guy with the MF gear might have been focused on solo PvE so far, and just now trying to join a CoF run to get some berserker gear, I’ll never know for sure, but I’m not going to judge.

Which is why the solution is just to average the MF stat for all players in a group. Simple and effective.

AntiGw.9367:

The MF guy took the right path because he knows that the party kills stuff fast enough already, and he doesn’t feel insecure about his own performance.

I guess one cannot admit they are selfish, but the other people around you know the truth.

I’m still amazed by how much denial the MF users are capable of.

AntiGw.9367:

The game is balanced for blue/green gear. Any stats above that are a bonus.

No part of the game is balanced around everyone wearing full exotics and ascended gear. People can equip any bonus they want, and it doesn’t make them selfish. THEY ARE NOT SELFISH.

Once upon a time, a MF player was walking down a path and reached a fork. On the left, there was a sign written : “Berzerker gear : your party will kill stuff fast”. On the right it was written : “Explorer gear : your party will will kill stuff slower but you’ll get twice as much loot”. And the MF guy took the right path because he doesn’t care about the other players in his party but he gets more loot so that’s all that matters for him.

Rastos.3812:

My build is a 5/0/20/20/20 build.

So, what benefit do you get from not using 5 trait points at all? :p

MF gear (Explorer specifically) loses 1/3 of the offensive stats compared to Berserk for 0 group benefits. Using MF gear is the same as a player that AFKs for 1/3 of the dungeon and still gets the same rights to loot than the rest of the team. IE, he’s a leech.

ProxyDamage.9826:

Stop doing drugs. No class in the game even comes close to a Thief’s mobility, let alone a mesmer. Warriors and Eles can have similar “burst” mobility, but in sheer “warping all over the place” or long distance running, nothing beats a Thief.

Sword/Warhorn + Greatsword warrior is mighty quick too you know.

Check : https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/may-14-2013/

Szamsziel.5627:

Wanna bet?
1 player has 50%. 1 has 40%, 1 has 30% and one have 5%. The last one have x%. If x=0 then sum is 50+40+30+5 = 125. So on average 125/5 = 25%. 1st player before share was 50%, after is 25%. – cut in half

So Einlanzer is perfectly right : there’s no way a single player in the group caused you to lose half your MF. It took the concerted effort of 4 players out of 5 to do it.

TBH, you can do it with 3 players only even.

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

They should just use one of the balances every other game with stealth employs, instead of using none of them.

Take a tip from TF2:

1. Stealthing and unstealthing is not instantaneous.
2. Getting hit while stealthed will show numbers.
3. You have to be fully uncloaked to attack someone. (This may already be the case, but dat rendering)

It’s OK to make the Stealth in GW2 similar to TF2. And let’s include those little facts that you forgot :
- everyone is stuck playing in first person mode
- a thief melee dagger attacks instantly kills anyone he hits on the back

kokiman.2364:

I’d rather see the playerbase working on a patch that improves their reading comprehension.

What has the “Unique” feature given us so far? It’s effects on gameplay are 99.9999% frustration from buyers and 0.0001% for some guy that actually used the crafted offensive/defensive infusions and got affected by this thing.

Can you honestly say it was worth the headaches?

Mestinon.9825:

Israel.7056:

I personally recommend submitting a ticket. The support staff helped me out when I did the same thing.

I did and they said they’re unable to refund any in-game transactions :/

People got replacement items already. Ask again. If enough people waste their customer support time with that stupid feature, maybe they’ll learn and remove the useless Unique thing.

Got an idea for a condition that shouldn’t be too hard to make, and would work rather well for a necro.

Decay. Stacks in intensity :
- each second, decay gets a new stack of duration equal to the shortest stack on the target
- decay does no damage over time
- decay does damage equal to one burning tick when it is removed either through condition removal, through timer ending or if condition cap pushes one out

It’d not be something that needs to remain specific to necro. Can change the name for that. The trick is, this condition works amazingly well with Epidemics.

sorrow.2364:

Travlane.5948:

s/d is the most confusing build in the game for an enemy to play against if specced/utilities are right… 100% nothing more confusing than dozens of teleports with dozens of invis and several dazes and a couple doesnt evades and a heal every 15 secs with dozens of blinds…..although dmg is average its very hard to defend against a professional s/d player which takes many months of mastering…… can be proven. or do u have a counterpoint which example of build/class? plz do go on. dont just say well if u believe it thats nice….then i respond “well if u dont im sorry for your lack of experience” then we get nowhere like 6th graders arguing if somebody is out in dodgeball. come correct. nothign wrong with debating or “opinionizing” .

Yes. You are right. The S/D skillcap is higher compared to other thief’s builds. BUT, BUT, this doesn’t mean that evades aren’t too much. They should be toned down a bit to the point that you can’t afford to spam them, but you can be extremely effective if you time them correctly. Right now, you can just spam you evades getting nice results.

Also, Infiltrator’s Strike should be looked into. No-cooldown stunbreaker is insane, seriously.

Technically, it’s a 5 init stun breaker that needs to be precast 15s in advance or it’s not available to use.

Well, yes. That’s around 10% more HP or so, not that bad for an adept trait in a branch with very few good traits short of the grandmaster ones.

Next time you play, each time you survive with less than 1k HP left, think about it.

Tony.6028:

Were you expecting a thread about magic find, the Mystic Forge, or the Molten Facility?

I was pondering if I should come into this thread and complain that I have no idea if you meant MF, MF or MF.

Tulisin.6945:

stof.9341:

I don’t think a trait that doubles DPS in AoE situations is balanced either.

Consider that sword/shortbow attacks are more powerful, and triple DPS in AE situations without any traits at all.

Maybe we should add a trait that triples the damage Daggers do them. Since obviously the dagger that cannot cleave for around the same autoattack DPS than sword is inferior.

The pistol main autoattack might be very weak indeed. It’s still not a reason to add a trait that basically doubles the damage they do. ANet already got enough problems with the Engineer grenade trait that adds 50% more damage but at least it’s a grandmaster rank trait. What they need is to boost the base damage and keep ricochet at 20%

Irate Platypus.9318:

Here are a few data points. Apologies for the screenshot quality; they’re screengrabs from videos.

#1: Ranger autoattack; retaliation hits for 241
#2: Guardian hammer (maybe mighty blow); retaliation hits for 326. So far so good.
#3: 3 hits on various enemies for 223 each.
#4: 3 hits on various enemies (same fight as #3) for 194 each.

I’m not sure how to explain #3 and #4 being for exactly the same amounts for multiple people if it’s based on the amount of incoming damage. Maybe there’s something more complicated going on, which would explain why the patch notes are so vague.

Are you sure it wasn’t just a case of you having different amounts of Might stacks when you did each test?

Slomo.1029:

Hazor.3140:

Sure, because mist form stomping isnt way stronger than stealth stomping lol

Yea. Burning a 90s cd utility skill is totally comparable to 60% of the fight stealth….

Stealth stomp protects you against the guy you stomp. Mist form protects you against him and all his friends that know what they do.

Seriously, just wave your sword above your downed friend a couple times and get ready to stomp the thief back after he reappears.

I don’t think a trait that doubles DPS in AoE situations is balanced either.

MasterGeese.4756:

2. Fix the kitten bug making vital shot cast slower than it’s supposed to. Come on, Arenanet, we’ve known about this practically since launch.

There is no such bug or if there is one, we do not have the info to say so. As far as we are concerned, Vital Shot attacks as fast as ANet wanted it to.

Bhawb.7408:

Yeah, frankly condition builds just don’t have any business dealing with siege (or any similar thing).

Yeah, who would burn down a trebuchet instead of hacking it little by little with a dagger?

Appologies, got a bad case of TL/DR here.