Guild Wars 2

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

I actually use a hybrid build in dungeons now. AH with all Celestial gear for great survivability and even greater DPS. Even if it has less Power it has more Crit damage so you deal more damage overall. I bet that’s something you guys didn’t think about.

I started running this also, but I put pirate runes on it for some awesome magic find and a bird summon which does amazing DPS. I also run with a mistfire wolf and all spirit weapons, it’s like a dungeon runner’s version of the ultimate petting zoo. I literally carry my team.

ilr.9675:

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

Bright is a hipster. He loved CoE before it was mainstream, now it’s mainstream so he moved on to Arah.

Arah’s getting too mainstream now.

Where are we to go … now that we’ve gone too far

Lion’s Arch.

spoj.9672:

Id recommend getting some beserker gear so you can speedrun to get those tokens to get some soldier gear more quickly. Then realise soldier gear is not worth it and use those tokens for something else.

Ditto.

Denial Of Service.5732:

my team had a HUGE DPS, after 5 hrs just a few downs here and there always that had 50% just stealthed and went invul.

-_- ok well.. I beat it just this morning..No problems.

Player Character.9467:

swiftpaw.6397:

Emanuel.9781:

colesy.8490:

PVT…. HOTW…

Did they think there was an achievement for putting yourself under prolonged torture?

Maybe i should gather my Wayfarer’s gear squad once again and do HotW path 3(which was the longest path?) with them before that gear gets changed.

Do it and get that kitten recorded for me. I will link it everytime someone yammers on about builds and gear not mattering.

Well as long as he wins it’s technically still that they don’t matter… what you should do is video some ptv or cleric’s failing to out dps a healing mechanic.

They matter when you are taking 5 times longer to do the dungeon surely -.-

Bright.9160:

Yeah, I figured as much. It’s so beautiful though, people not caring.

Also, props to Bismuth for not flagging stuff. I can imagine some of the things said here could have been somewhat insulting.

I am really quite impressed by Bismuth because he takes all of this very well. +1 respect.

Emanuel.9781:

colesy.8490:

PVT…. HOTW…

Did they think there was an achievement for putting yourself under prolonged torture?

Maybe i should gather my Wayfarer’s gear squad once again and do HotW path 3(which was the longest path?) with them before that gear gets changed.

Do it and get that kitten recorded for me. I will link it everytime someone yammers on about builds and gear not mattering.

You know why, Bright? Because no one has flagged anything. It’s beautiful.

spoj.9672:

But all dungeons are mainstream now, except hotw. Does that mean we have to all go keen at sponge of the waves?

I don’t want to go back there after joining a pug team that was entirely decked out in pvt. :/

mage.3570:

Emanuel.9781:

The dungeon master title isn’t worth anything sadly.

No one asked for your opinion what it’s worth.

I am just pointing to the fact that dungeon abusers will kick anyone regardless of skill level.

Ah you hit a nerve there.

Kite.2510:

I have a feeling that this is not who the game is supposed to be played, nether what A-net intended…

Why are feelings always involved -_-

tbh I’m more concerned about pet survivability in dungeons. Open world, who cares, you can get a tag for gold medal in like five hits of an auto attack.

Living world, temporary content and cash shop. They may consider pvp after these things. Maybe.

Bismuth.3165:

swiftpaw.6397:

Eh that’s just how I am. I’m not gonna sit on a freshly painted park bench until I’m certain the paint is dry.

And there is nothing wrong with that
Think we should end this argument, now we’re just repeating our points over and over again and it’s never going to end, I leave you the last statement, write whatever you want since I have nothing else to say.

I get to say the last thing?!?!? :O

Ok here goes. As my official closing statement to this thread I would like to say…

Purple monkey cow tit dishwasher sausage grass potato flowers. Let us all mull this over respectfully as we watch this thread die at the hands of a [edit] kind and loving forum mod.

http://youtu.be/yPLcZ5Rk3Lg

Gentlemen, it has been a privilege playing with you tonight.

You gotta dodge the grub attacks and kicks!

Just kidding. :P

Should a waypoint be added ( bug fixed) ? Probably. Will it be added? No.

Maybe they should update rewards for pvp and actually give people some tangible incentives to do it, especially differing modes. Ah nvm, that’s too much work and money

Bismuth.3165:

swiftpaw.6397:

Correct, you did not claim victory. But you wont be swayed from what you believe regardless.

One does not simply change what he believes in because of a forum argument.
that applies to everyone in here and I can’t provide certain proof that god exists (which I said at the beginning) and you won’t accept any proof unless it’s certain.

Eh that’s just how I am. I’m not gonna sit on a freshly painted park bench until I’m certain the paint is dry.

I enjoy all the feather preening and egotistical gestures. People make such fools of themselves on video games.

Bismuth.3165:

swiftpaw.6397:

That’s your perception. It ended because I know a good game of pigeon chess when I see it and I’m not bothered to continue. You believing what you want doesn’t affect me so I’ll leave you to it.

I never claimed victory, I didn’t say BS to whatever argument you made, I had proof and we were arguing whether it was valid or not, come on, I rate atleast a smart monkey

Correct, you did not claim victory. But you wont be swayed from what you believe regardless. It’s not my job to do it either. I felt the need to explain why I cannot take what was presented to me as real proof and that’s as far as I feel like going.

This thread is really starting to confuse me.

Bismuth.3165:

The argument ended with me not winning but not losing… meh, I’ll take it.

Let the “I leave for 1 day and this happens” posts begin

That’s your perception. It ended because I know a good game of pigeon chess when I see it and I’m not bothered to continue. You believing what you want doesn’t affect me so I’ll leave you to it.

By morning the mods will be here. Gotta go back an delete anything they may interpret in even the slightest way as ‘offensive’ or we’ll be in for a ’paddling.

I just hope I get rewarded with achievement points when I equip my ascended PVT weapon. Also there better be some long and monotonous open world content event sh#t that I have to do before I can attain it. Not everyone should just be handed things!

#Casuals.

Bismuth.3165:

swiftpaw.6397:

I’m not going to get into an argument that never ends. But as for my reasons. I could say all kinds of whack stuff right now and document it and then in a couple hundred years, by chance it could turn out to be scientifically true. Not only this, but what if your interpretation of what is written is not correct? What if they meant something completely different but you pulled it out and construed it to fit in with current scientific knowledge.

‘Bananas fit perfectly into a human’s hand. Therefore they were intelligently designed by god for human consumption.’ – Ray Comfort.

another valid point, but it doesn’t make my point any less invalid, the one that says the world is round is pretty straightforward, the one about the big bang theory I can see your point, but saying the “earth and the skies were combined so we split them up” is pretty kitten close to the big bang theory and how lucky could he have been for this statement to be true.

This is where we will probably agree to disagree. It’s going into the realm of how we personally perceive and interpret things.

Bismuth.3165:

swiftpaw.6397:

If I came up to you and said, "Why don’t you believe I can fly?” You’d say, “Why would I?” I’d reply, “Because it’s a matter of faith.”
If I then said, “Prove I can’t fly. Prove I can’t fly see, see, you can’t prove it can you?”
You’d probably either walk away, call security or throw me out of the window and shout, ‘’F—ing fly then you lunatic.”

-Ricky Gervais.

You do have a valid point,but the verses I showed you prove that the quran wrote about the big bang theory and the world being round 1400 years ago when nobody could’ve ever came to any of these conclusions, how do you explain that? there are also more scientific facts from the quran and islam is a religion that encourages people to learn and discover.

I’m not going to get into an argument that never ends. But as for my reasons. I could say all kinds of whack stuff right now and document it and then in a couple hundred years, by chance it could turn out to be scientifically true. Not only this, but what if your interpretation of what is written is not correct? What if they meant something completely different but you pulled it out and construed it to fit in with current scientific knowledge.

‘Bananas fit perfectly into a human’s hand. Therefore they were intelligently designed by god for human consumption.’ – Ray Comfort.

If I came up to you and said, "Why don’t you believe I can fly?” You’d say, “Why would I?” I’d reply, “Because it’s a matter of faith.”
If I then said, “Prove I can’t fly. Prove I can’t fly see, see, you can’t prove it can you?”
You’d probably either walk away, call security or throw me out of the window and shout, ‘’F—ing fly then you lunatic.”

-Ricky Gervais.

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Soup is good food, you made a good meal.

Feed me T_T

Bismuth.3165:

But it is proof… “goes and cries in the corner”

You and I view proof in different ways. You are welcome to believe what you do, but I cannot accept what you said as legitimate evidence. It’s not worth the argument, as I said earlier.

Warcry.1596:

Swift don’t be disrespectful… while I disagree with him about it being “proof”, he has the right to feel that way, respect him for his beliefs and respectfully disagree

I respect him, I just don’t respect what he thinks. Thoughts and ideas should never be on a pillar above criticism or satire. He’s welcome to believe what he wants that’s fine. But parading it around like he’s 100% right and betting money on it.. well that’s just an invitation for disrespect of those beliefs.

I got sent a bunch of quran verses….

Back to the OP I suppose…
Hrouda is gone and it’s looking more and more like living story is the new and only thing until there is an expansion of some kind. There’s no money in permanent token dungeons but there’s plenty in temporary crap.

Bismuth.3165:

swiftpaw.6397:

Bismuth.3165:

All you guys are doing right now is just writing BS and nobody is stepping up, if you’re so sure I’m wrong why don’t you say you’ll give me the 100g if I prove I’m right?

Have you ever heard of pigeon chess?

Hm… fine, screw the 100g, you guys are too smart to take the bait, and I’m too clueless to notice… do you still want proof or not, it’s a not so long read?
PS: robert hrouda left a while ago, he doesn’t work for anet anymore.

Entertain me.

Bismuth.3165:

All you guys are doing right now is just writing BS and nobody is stepping up, if you’re so sure I’m wrong why don’t you say you’ll give me the 100g if I prove I’m right?

Have you ever heard of pigeon chess?

Direksone.3867:

swiftpaw.6397:

Bismuth.3165:

How do you support something that doesn’t exist?

Better yet, how do you support something that won’t exist.

Always great feedback and full of good suggestions Swift. Great.

Any time my friend

Archon.6480:

Noobie.1073:

Archon.6480:

Yeah. Ranger is 14 percent because it is one of the best PvE/PvP classes, if you know what you are doing. Anet can see this from statistics which is why they have tweaked it quite a bit. Even with all the tweaks, I still feel sorry for opponents in PvP and WvW as they get continue to get steamrolled. Too many people use beserkanoob charts to analyse class viability in PvE as well. They forget about the important things like combo field options, power/condition pairing, group traits, etc.

Are dungeons considered PvE? cause if they are, Rangers aren’t too welcomed. They’re like the kid that gets picked last to join a team lol. WvW? besides roaming and 1v1 or ocassional 1v2s….Rangers are not the popular choice. I would say WvW consists of many many thieves and mesmers. PvP is about the only place a ranger is welcomed or favored.

Dungeons are Considered PvE, and are no problem with a ranger. At least, at this point, I am 38 in fractals and have Dungeon Master title. Beat everything first time as well. Passed every queens guantlet challenge as well (except Liadre). Rangers aren’t too welcomed in beginner groups for sure, but that is more due to some pretty popular beserkanoob folklore perpetuated by people (strife) who have an interesting, non teamwork based team philosophy on class viability. I sometimes think people post garbage to fool beginners into having a tough time. Rangers are walking arrow carts in WvW and are very welcomed in JQ. 1v1 in WvW? That’s like when 1 person tries to storm a castle by himself? I would argue against 1v1 ranger builds in WvW, but i am sure that’s debatable.

Strife has a Non-Teamwork based build philosophy? What

Bismuth.3165:

How do you support something that doesn’t exist?

Better yet, how do you support something that won’t exist.

Broadicea.8294:

sorry guys I’m not as kittening incredible at the game as you are, better talk kitten and condescend as much as humanly possible

Walk outside at night and stare up at the stars. The realize how insignificant this game is, along with every person who plays it. Then come back inside and be entertained as you watch people argue on forums about this or that

deSade.9437:

swiftpaw.6397:

No new real dungeons until an expansion imo. No expansion until Ncsoft decides casuals aren’t profitable enough to pander to with temporary gimmicks and cash shop crap. Expansion not planned this year. If all of a sudden they started developing one, it would be in development next year, with a release date of at the very soonest, another year later. Yes ladies and gents, we’re looking at a long time. Enjoy your lion cub minis and broomsticks!

Robert Hrouda got the cut. He’s gone. Yes, he wasn’t great. But he was the last bastion. The last person who gave a flying f-kitten-ck about permanent dungeons with token rewards. And they got rid of him. I’ll let people decide for themselves what that means for the future of real dungeons in this game.

I wonder why truth is always so…. depressing. This game has such a great potential, yet it might turn into some utterly pathetic mélange of minigames and stupid cash shop fluff. Why? I’m so confused.
Is the answer just… money? Do they really think GW2 isn’t worth investing anymore, and they must milk the mindless idiots before it dies out?
I feel so sorry for Hrouda. He cared at least.

Oh they believe it’s worth investing in. They believe it’s worth investing the minimum amount of money, whilst taking as much as possible to profit from and pump into their other cashcow games such as aion and lineage. Don’t get me wrong, there is money invested, but it’s only being invested in what will = the most profit. And atm Ncsoft knows that it’s more profitable to sit here and milk the casuals than to make an expansion or add perma content which would require more resources.

Bots.

Bright.9160:

ilr.9675:

Bright.9160:

TL;DR I think the Simin ‘bug’ is people blaming their incompetence on a non-existent bug.

Okay well I’m not going to upvote anymore of your posts if you just want to engage in personal attacks on people who weren’t even inviting one… You should really be more considerate if you expect to hold any credibility at all. …very disappointed right now.

I’m very confused right now. I’m having the feeling my sarcasm meter should be bleeping right now, but it’s not… So I don’t know what to think.

Thinking is dangerous on these forums, I advise against it.

coronaas.4362:

Robert Hrouda
4 hours ago via mobile
was going through my travel bag today and found my design notepad full of GW2 dungeon designs. There was a pang of regret in thinking about things, but the spark and desire is still there to keep designing and building. When I get back from this vacation with the family (Oregon coast), I’ll be eager to find somewhere willing to pay me to do it. I’m glad this experience hasn’t broken my desire for it – I love it, and I can’t wait to get back into it. the encouragement from my friends has been very appreciated throughout this entire thing.

You know I really feel sorry for him. Of course I don’t agree with alot of his design ideas. But he seems passionate about what he was doing and he lost his job likely because the casual bs temp content being churned out was more important to his employer. He really sounds depressing. :/

Nihilus.3015:

Emanuel.9781:

I’ll just leave this here:

“Robert Hrouda
August 20.
Today marks the release of the last bit of content I built for ArenaNet. I had always hoped my last hurrah would be an epic dungeon that would stand the test of time, and provide entertainment for players to the very end… but instead it’s an instance that will only persist for two weeks, and then go away.
That’s not to sound gloomy or anything – just that things don’t always go the way you hope they do. I still had a great time, met some amazingly talented and good people, and got to work alongside friends – not just coworkers, but people I consider friends. I feel lucky to have had the opportunity, and just wish I had done more with it.”

^ overdue

The best part is even though he’s trying as hard as he can to sound neutral.. you know he’s annoyed XD

ZilentNight.5089:

What do you mean that he got the cut? He left the company?
No way….

It’s sort of strange. Apparently A-Net has a no lay off policy, but it appears that on RH’s facebook he was pressured to resign or was fired gracefully or something like that.

As nice as that sounds, I can only imagine the new influx of people thinking it’s a good idea in dungeons -.-

Sounds like a decent set for spirit ranger as well, although I think I’d prefer traps for wvw atm.

No new real dungeons until an expansion imo. No expansion until Ncsoft decides casuals aren’t profitable enough to pander to with temporary gimmicks and cash shop crap. Expansion not planned this year. If all of a sudden they started developing one, it would be in development next year, with a release date of at the very soonest, another year later. Yes ladies and gents, we’re looking at a long time. Enjoy your lion cub minis and broomsticks!

Robert Hrouda got the cut. He’s gone. Yes, he wasn’t great. But he was the last bastion. The last person who gave a flying f-kitten-ck about permanent dungeons with token rewards. And they got rid of him. I’ll let people decide for themselves what that means for the future of real dungeons in this game.

I come back here many days later and the tears are still flowing. Nerf this nerf that blabbity blah blah.

Amir.1570:

I honestly think you wouldn’t be worth anything at all if easy mode mechanics did not exist in this game.

Insults thrown left right and center as well I see. Nothing like a bit of emotions to throw into the mix.

I do not think devs will take anyone seriously with such kitten poor arguments.

Ceribrocanasans.4135:

Genavelle.9516:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Genavelle.9516:

I’ve got to say Fractals is probably my favorite since it’s always a different experience and you can do higher levels to make it more challenging.

Do you even Fract, bro?

Unfortunately I am only on level 19 myself

He doesn’t fract, bro.

I know for a fract that this guy doesn’t fract.

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Moderator.6837:

Hello,

As this thread as derailed with off-topic and inflammatory comments, it has been moderated heavily.

Please note that any further off-topic and/or inflammatory comment, may result in this thread being locked.

Thank you for your understanding.

Thank you very much for your hard work keeping our forums safe and clean for the dungeon community. Without you, we would be lost.

Obaby yes, I love some heavy moderation.

ilr.9675:

Bright.9160:

TL;DR I think the Simin ‘bug’ is people blaming their incompetence on a non-existent bug.

Okay well I’m not going to upvote anymore of your posts if you just want to engage in personal attacks on people who weren’t even inviting one… You should really be more considerate if you expect to hold any credibility at all. …very disappointed right now.

I’m upset too. Bright, I will never again pray to Baphomet because of this. You have crossed this intelligent forum community for the last time!

More of that embellishing I see.

Also…

Knote.2904:

This almost makes me want to quit the game altogether, they think every think this is fine?????

Jesus.

Big lol.

By the time I noticed it, we were already halfway though the second fractal I figured I’d try and push though but once cliffside hit I knew it was a done deal lol.

I love skyhammer XD I camp hammer with ranger longbow, It’s hilarious.