Guild Wars 2

Oozo.7856:

Draygo.9473:

I don’t know if we really lack skill.
Its just super hard to show any skill when you run over people with 10 times their number.

Very true. Kaineng surely has good players on it. It’s just hard to stand out at the moment.

BTW, my comments are generally comparing rank and file PUGs versus the rank and file of other servers. Maguuma has impressed me the most for their general level of competence. Kaineng is carrying A LOT of deadweight, however. And those players will be taking up your queue slots. This is the kind of thing you don’t realize unless you fight your own server.

Maguuma’s popularity might cause it to have similar issues with respect to deadweight players. And again, Maguuma had nothing similar to the mobile zergball guilds that Kaineng has. That would be my primary concern if I was Mag right now.

I honestly can’t think of a counter to them unless you run the same exact thing. Of course, I’d personally rather quit the game before piling up and running with a zerg like that.

more people would probably need to run support and control builds, like staff ele, consecration guardian, glamour mesmers etc. which requires more organization in general i’m sure.

halting the momentum of the zergball definitely a key to stopping it.

Humpink.2306:

saiyr.3071:

if someone on Ehmry makes a jab at Maguuma, it will be replied to. Deal with it.

Sorry someone insulted your e-honor.
I don’t think anyone has any issues with replies as long as they are factual.

It doesn’t take someone to be on your server to realize that someone from there coming here to say that you have no guild drama is either naive, not in the loop, or purposefully spreading misinformation.

As long as humans play this game there will be drama on any server because it’s human nature. Claiming otherwise lends you zero credibility.

i’m not saying i’m all knowing, and maybe i am just not in the loop, but is there anyone that keeps up with guild politics that can say if there are guild drama?

i’m always looking to be proven wrong

would make shatter builds even stronger than what they are now. you’re basically getting a free shatter per person instead of having to resummon illusions every time you kill someone.

your main damage is from your clones and yourself casting winds of chaos. use sigil of earth for more bleed.

you get 8-10 stacks of bleed+poison/burn easily, the bleed should tick for atleast 120.

the problem with this build is that its really only good for spvp and very small fights, since you have no real way to catch or control someone in wvw if they decide to run away.

Ninein.4782:

Well I kinda like getting the EB jp loot without harrassment this week.

i dont, no chance for [CAMP]

get it? LOL

SkyChef.5432:

wads.5730:

Jinks.2057:

Ebay the server Mag wishes they could be!

pretty much, except for the constant guild drama

The fact is that because you haven’t seen New Dehli with your own eyes, it doesn’t mean it isn’t there.
Plain English translation: You don’t have server website like ours so there are no place to flame except burning it inside. You also have abrasive players & guilds like ours (or others), what makes you think that your server are immune to that type of behavior?

i’m sure my server isn’t immune to guild drama, but its certainly far far less likely to happen, due to the fact that every major wvw player/guild sits on the same voice com server together.

plus even though i’m not in any guild on my server, i feel as though i can just ask to join any one (or all at once) of them, and they would let me in without question. for the most part wvw participants aren’t defined by what guild they’re in, but their level of knowledge and skill. in my experience, having a guild tag in wvw is nothing more than a formality.

is someone really crying about the retaliation buff?

and the argument of ‘everyone can get it, thus its fair’ is a very slippery slope. just because its available, doesn’t mean its balanced.

Rob.7624:

Hey guys I’ll make this quick.
And yes, I have no shame.

So I’m hearing words that TC and IOJ guilds (sorry yaks nothing about you) are leaving their servers and moving into other ones.
Now I’m nearly certain that this is true.

I’d just like to put it out there. That the Northern Shiverpeaks server actually has no queue times. Even on 2 of its maps at reset. And yet we are still sitting nicely in tier 6 due to our huge infrastructure and server organisation.

Yes indeed. We are prepared and ready to host a big alliance due to what was left behind from previous ones and I think personally you’d enjoy the break!

Then what does NSP need? you ask

Ok, so. I have thought about this for a long time.
And from what I honestly see? We need more Commanders.
Not numbers even though I haven’t seen a queue time in ages. We can still get a 40 man zerg.
But Commanders is what we need, and good ones.
A large guild with its Commanders could actually take a borderland to themselves and not have to cram in with other WvW guilds beside them. Breathing space if you will.
And make a huge difference to the server.
I mean its actually ridiculous what a single guild can do here.

www.shiverpeaks.com
Is our new community website

I hope that some of you consider us as I really do think it’d be more fun over here.
And I’m not going to let anything slip but er.
(You won’t be alone in your transfer get it ow before the 28th and you’re the last one left)

from the looks of your current tier and matchup, what would be the point of trying to recruit? serious question, what good could come out of recruiting in a stable tier.

its a lose-lose situation, you recruit too few, no difference made. you recruit more, you out class your current tier, but proceed to get crushed in the next tier, then lose twice the number you recruit because of being crushed.

or you recruit way more than you can handle, shoot up like DR and BP for a few weeks, then get road blocked by upper tiers, and implode from too many numbers, and not enough infrastructure to support it in the upper tiers.

i say this to all the servers in T6-8 atm, enjoy yourselves in even matchups, if you want a more competitive (tryhardlol) wvw atmosphere, just transfer to SoS instead of kittening up a good thing.

cesmode.4257:

Wow. Just WoW. Arenanet, do a better job balancing next time. This is completely stupid. Logged in just to see WvW, 6:25 AM EST. Maguuma controlled, every single point there is to control, on all border lands. Everything. When I logged off last night around 11:30PM EST, IoJ controlled at least half of our borderland. This is just plain stupid.

Paid transfer announcement caused many to jump ship, which now causes us to fight with a fraction of the numbers. We cant even put anyone on any other maps except our own border lands.

Completely destroys motiviation to play WvW. Make sure your matchmaking system takes into account the number of WvW players that play for each server as well.

Ugh
My kittens now

quit the game and come back in a few weeks after tiers have readjusted themselves again

rabid is best. toughness helps you stay alive better than vitality in 90% of situations.

all the more reason to lose and drop tiers

Mordayn.6198:

Maguuma rams built in Yaks EB spawn… epic…

“lolol waste of 1g lolol”

shoognite.2106:

I vote Kaineng…

they’re probably overrated at this point. its a server like DR and BP when they were crushing through the lower tiers, but with 1 exceptional guild (WM). they’ll definately get further, but probably not past T3 in the long run.

you could have just titled the thread with ‘recruitment’ in it, would be easier.

i dont get why people care if enemies get inside your spawn, you are invulnerable there. if anything its free loot bags.

hold on, let me get my dick out

morrolan.9608:

wads.5730:

is there anyone actually denying it? i would think the popular sentiment of wanting LESS numbers is admitting it.

Zastari seems to be. Look we took you guys too lightly on reset and were disorganised on our own BL thats why we did badly there despite having probably equal numbers there, although how the queues actually work is still a bit of a mystery.

the claim of being outnumbered in a specific engagement is not the same as saying anyone is being outnumbered overall in the matchup.

we had 4 map queues on reset night, not consistent 4 map coverage all times.

morrolan.9608:

CrassBippy.4619:

As someone who has been on YB for quite some time, I dont remember ANY of our commanders lately, there is no set WVW guilds that I ever see in decent numbers besides (hell) and (CL). We dont even put up trebs on our garrison mountain tops to treb dreaming bay or hills anymore. My only explanation is that we lost alot of our wvwvw focused people. Sadly I feel like we are a mindless zerg server, minus the large zerg numbers of some other servers.

YB feels very different then it did a couple weeks ago. Oh well

Which timezone do you play in? I’m oceanic and tend to be on at the tail end of the NA evening and there are commanders and guilds who have been on YB for ages, since the beginning. Honnor and Scorn, Baazutai and Badger Spirits, Subtle and OF, Dethroat and War for example. As for trebbing DB from garrison we were doing exactly that 12 or so hours ago as I type. The issue is that we’ve lost garrison a number of times due to Maguumas superior numbers.

As for the debate about Maguumas numbers its pretty clear you’ve gone from a 2 map server like YB to a 4 map server in terms of pop. Funny how when it happens servers always want to deny it, its happened to YB in matches with SOR and FA where in the middle of matches they received the transfers that took them to tier 2 and tier 3 respectively yet they tried to deny it.

is there anyone actually denying it? i would think the popular sentiment of wanting LESS numbers is admitting it.

new plan to get destroyed at reset, dominate this matchup even harder, and jump up 5 ranks to T2 on friday and face SoR/blackgate and TC

Pendragon.8735:

saiyr.3071:

You are stating things we all already know. The major guild transfers we got were not because of the scoreboard. Look at our match history.

Your server mate just the exact opposite above.

he was referring to the organized guilds that transferred, not the kittenty randoms that jumped ship from DR and BP. believe me, no one on mag who isn’t a new transfer wants this population. frankly, most will be glad once we get destroyed and people transfer off.

one thing people need to remember that being in a lower tier doesn’t mean less fun. infact the opposite is true for many people. you just have to get around the 2-3 weeks of uneven matchups as the server moving to its proper tier.

just look at hod and ET, even matchups are the best.

uflyandy.6392:

I guess we made legion public lol , in that case maguuma is coming together as u said before. TTK and GOA are gateways for players of all skill levels to be trained and geared up for world vs world. We believe and want smaller guilds to take part of our guilds so we continue to bring maguuma together. Our guilds come to a BL and do serious damage because we play as a team with everyone. This is part of the reason of maguuma lead. Not because we had 2 new guilds join us . Yes we understand that some of the servers have lost members but is the hard effort of both legion and the public mumble that we are doing so good this tier. Great job everyone , keep it up and let’s not get chocky.

i understand and appreciate when your guild has done. you train baddies good wvw habits and general tactical knowledge. this is great, however this only lets you run in zergs effectively.

the one thing many players lack in general is how to handle themselves in small scale fights, i’ve seen so many people just refuse to engage a small fight, and run to the nearest zerg instead. doing this means those players can’t carry their own weight in the zerg, and leads to situations where zergs of 20 are kited, choked and eventually wiped by 6-7 more skillful players.

i dont really know how to get the new players to not suck, but always running in zergs isn’t going to help them get better.

this is how we should play this.. wait until friday reset, completely give up everything for 3 days.

get absolutely dominated against CD AND DB in T3. start playing again on monday after transferes are paid.

does this take into account crafting boosters?

Xthnru.2079:

Roughneck.2509:

We’ve got nine days to drive them out.

Fixed that for you.

everyone on grub, sacrifice everything

its almost never the server, and almost always you.

there are organized people and guilds in every server. but you have to go in and make friends, and join guilds.

the ultimate goal is to get on voice coms with a group of like minded people and play the game.

gg mag is kittenty zerg server now, 1hr queues in all maps

game is ruined

Tynan.6279:

Are we using this one? Or the other one? My vote is for this one, easier to read the title!

use this one, way better

I-I-It’s not like I didn’t not want you to not be on the server >________________<

Acelerion.6820:

This new found maguuma zerg better not hold up into next week. Its been brutal out there for us, I can imagine what dr and borlis went through all week.

i hope we get absolutely crushed, so people can transfer off before the 28th

this is a classic case of mad cus bad

Oozo.7856:

Sol.4310:

Ranger vs AD = Ranger win’s.

I’m seeing dead Rangers in this movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsOy0YAj13s

I can’t wait to leave this Tier, I’ve taken hole week and bit off WvW to PvE new char to lvl 80 and get more items. Sorry say it but WvW is boring atm and the forums are full of smack/trash talkers.

You mean like some of your guildmates? Oh wait, you are the same guy that criticized others for running FOTM builds the day after Bunzy put out a movie with OG running two DDEs and three thieves. LOL.

and there is good chance you won’t be facing Mag for long time enjoy Tier 6, while we enjoy an more active tier.

Ranger Out…..

GL to you and your egos.

looked like a 10v4, then a second 10v4+guild claimer. bad positioning and initiation by OG. this is why you use voice chat

Jinks.2057:

Mag is very good at communication

And they are recruiting all players atm!!!!!

gg sabatoge

Tricare.2946:

WäR always zerging everywhere they go, here is more proof. There’s no way that they can actually be good players who know what they’re doing.

you should shatter more, for instance, in that 2v9, you would have downed like half of them instantly if you shattered right after you did your first berserker combo

the entire point of the ELO rating system is so that eventually, with minimal population shifts, you’ll be fighting the same enemies every single week. and the only way to change your rating is to improve in strategy and skill, not population.

working as intended.

actually, from just experience, with no hard evidence to back this, i’m pretty sure clones and illusions have your exact toughness, condition damage, precision, crit damage. with only power being the scaling factor. this is probably due to the illusion skill having its own attack rating on the skill.

shatters count as your own attacks, not illusion attacks, so they follow your own stats.

Daishi.6027:

congalong.9620:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Illusion

Illusions derive their precision, power, condition damage, critical damage, armor, and healing directly from the mesmer’s attributes. Illusions do not gain any benefit from the mesmer’s vitality, condition duration or boon duration. They are neither affected by the damage of the mesmer’s equipped weapon nor by any of the various non-stat effects of weapon sigils or armor runes.

So to clerify… Percision, power, condiiton damage, crit dmg, armor, and healing. are the EXACT same stats as the main mesmers?

it used confusing words like “derive” and “benefit” makes it hard to understand what’s specific.

they obviously aren’t exactly the same stats as you, this is easiest to see since clones do very little damage.

they scale with your stats, but they have their own stats.

i love the use of mesmer’s veil in the WM video, it’s only effective if you can get your forces to move together like they do.

Teanti.2376:

Please tell me your not refering to Maguuma as one of these so called tier 4 servers. They lost 10 arrow carts and 5 Ballista’s before they finally found the right spot to hit our treb. They also lost 7 golems trying to bust a door with two cannons shooting at them.

sounds like the random baddies that transferred off borlis and devonna have already made a name for themselves.

Snoxx.7943:

Yeah, trident clones are insanely powerful, but my own trident autoattack is very weak. It does about 100 damage and gives me a boon, that’s it.

Trident needs to be balanced somewhere in the middle, not be a weapon with one overpowered attack and all other skills being crap.

Under water as a condition mesmer I can only kill ppl who are actively attacking me (and thus hurt themselves by confusion). Those who just swim away don’t take confusion damage at all. Trident has nothing else to offer but confusion from clones, the other skills do negligible damage.

they buffed the whaler quite a bit, its now 8 stacks of bleed + sharper images bleed+2k damage.

jaegerx.1693:

http://youtu.be/ukoytLyA3ik?t=1h17m5s

he sounds pretty casual and misinformed

goon also has like a total of 10 active wvw participants.

what the kitten is going on

dreztina.4820:

So uh, I run down to windmill and sit down while I finish some food, and instead of seeing some fights, I see you guys roll your own duels. I guess that’s how LARP does it.

call people out to duel, jump people arriving, good troll

would troll again

Rainu.6871:

Ross Biddle.2367:

With just signit of midnight, the prestigue, and sceptre 2 I can pretty much shut down some bosses in dungeons etc.

You know that blind only has a 10% chance to cause a blind to miss, right? It’s good but it can’t shut down bosses like it can do other mobs.

wat?

anyways, the blind trait is probably designed to synergize with the trait that blinds on glamors, and we have plenty of those.

you are why there are so many zerglings in wvw, people that make no effort to understand how the game works before crying about how unfair everything is.

while there are issues with wvw, what you laid out isn’t one of them, your issues are you and your server is bad.

Zepher.7803:

WaR seems to have picked up some bad habits since they moved, TSK TSK TSK

they miss you, and just want to hang out

each unique condition, not per stack

Ordibble.3092:

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

Not in T5. Ebay, Yaks, and Maguuma will end up rotating in and out of the tier.

It all depends on how strong Kaineng is. Maguuma has possibly been in a fortunate position of being able to get a couple of strong wins to propel them up to tier 4 before Kaineng gets to tier 5. Whoever drops out of tier 4 this week might find themselves fighting to a stand still or even being beaten by Kaineng. If a stand still, then the rank difference between tiers 4 and 5 might widen; if Kaineng win, then they might well take the place of another tier 4 server, even if it takes a couple of weeks.

For the immediate future, it does seem like tier 5 is going to be the most mismatched NA tier and I wouldn’t want to be caught in there if the rankings start to stagnate.

is kaineng on par with SoS 2.0 or are they more like borlis and DR in terms of transfer strength?

i don’t think they are as strong as they seem, crushing in T8-6 isn’t very telling of their true strengths

decoy not needed

i use blink, feedback or nullfield, then either signet of inspiration or a mantra.

exits.8075:

I, for one, welcome our new transfers. The guys from WäR will fit in nicely with everyone when we have to fight better tactically. They have a team that can ninja a keep or tower while a main force focuses on something else. Contrary to what the forums reads, most of the players in WvW welcome you guys and hope you stick around through the tough times that we will face again in T4. My only wish is that they submit to the will of Great Lord Flame Ram.

no one’s saying they dont welcome relatively small but organized and skilled guilds, people are saying they dont want the randoms that only transfer for the wins and world completion.