Guild Wars 2

According to article below GW2 had an active ‘monthly’ user base of 1.5 million ‘before’ free to play and that it has doubled to 3.1 million after the expansion.
Relevant quotes: “Guild Wars 2 has proven pretty resilient historically, with about 1.5 million monthly actives”
“Since it switched to free-to-play in late August, Guild Wars 2’s monthly active user base has doubled to 3.1 million”
Source: http://fortune.com/2015/11/24/areanet-investing-in-esports/
I am not really surprised by 3.1 million number after the expansion, but am a little bit surprised by the 1.5 million active monthly users before free to play.

PS: Post originally from reddit.

morrolan.9608:

warbignime.4610:

Are you just gonna ignore the fact that HoT maps are way bigger and pact than core game maps, tons of new features?

They aren’t bigger than core game maps unless you maybe take the different levels into account but upper and lower levels are not even close to complete levels in themselves. Plus effectively its only 3 maps with DS being just an event map.

Also tell me on MMORPG that offers the same amount of content in expansion compare to core game with same price, HoT has so much content compare to wow expansion(first patch of course), FF14 expansion(weekly/daily dungeon token gate).

HOT content is definitely not worth the premium price. I don’t play FF14 but I’ve heard feedback that there’s clearly more content than HOT. I do play swtor however and their recent xpac completely revised the whole game and was free to subscribers for the price of 1 months sub ($15) they revised the whole game and offered a story that is leagues ahead of the poor HOT story.

Seriously? Every HoT maps are at least 2-3 times the land mass of core Tyria maps, Also DS doesn’t count because it’s an event map? WHAT? Then Orr also doesn’t count as maps because they are also events maps, hell most of core Tyria are leveling zones so you might as well don’t consider they are maps too.

Andred.1087:

If rewards is all you care about, then you set yourself up for disappointment. Idk why people can’t get it through their thick skulls that this is a game, not a job. Rewards are there to give you direction; reaching the destination is pointless if you don’t enjoy the trip.

And yeah, it’s not perfect. Lots of stuff needs to be addressed. And it is being addressed, whether or not they’re talking about it yet. Point is, you can enjoy it if you want to. Or you can move on, if that’s the better choice in your mind. But don’t go around thinking your dissatisfaction is reflective of the state of the game, when more likely than not, the problem is in the way you’re looking at it.

Yes, and honestly gold is so easy to get after HoT, you get tons of cash just by gathering wood nodes and flax.

Are you just gonna ignore the fact that HoT maps are way bigger and pact than core game maps, tons of new features? Also tell me on MMORPG that offers the same amount of content in expansion compare to core game with same price, HoT has so much content compare to wow expansion(first patch of course), FF14 expansion(weekly/daily dungeon token gate).

HtFde.3856:

warbignime.4610:

TheMightyNewb.6789:

I 100 agree in full, they told us that this new system was for players that didn’t have the luck or the money to acquire a pre-cursor weapon. Yet it requires the same if not more money plus extra time gated stuff to acquire these new pre-cursors, its extremely disappointing to have Anet false advertise so to speak, if it wasn’t for a friend of mine that told me it was a gold sink, i would be right where you are my friend because i was looking forward to this new system but however now i am 100 percent completely avoiding it. like Why could Anet have had 4 collections for each precursor, and when you complete each collection you get 1 item out of 4 to put into the Mystic Forge to then craft the weapon. that makes way more sense to me anyways

Anet never told people that it’s a cheap way, it’s a non RNG way to get precouser it doesn’t mean cheaper, easier or faster to get.

As some items are MORE expensive to craft than buying the thing off the TP it would be faster to create the items (ascended materials, etc.), sell them on the TP and then BUY the precursor off the TP.

So – let us see if the concept itself is feasible:

(1) Is it cheaper – answer is (for most precursors): No
(2) Is it faster – answer is (for most precursors): No
(3) Is it RNG-free (only can say for Bifrost): No

So – why should I even consider spending a single point in that mastery line?

You may try to make ANet look better than they deserve by telling us what they did not say – but what it boils down to (same with Guild Halls, by the way): It’s content that seems to have been put together in haste without any balance. Either that or ANet didn’t believe in precursor crafting in the first place and put a system in place, that doesn’t make sense.

It’s not meant to be easier either and Legendary should NOT be easy to get. For some people saving up 1k gold is impossible but saving 10 gold each day and complete it over 3 month is. It’s a non RNG slow progression towards pre.

Sicarius.4639:

Galen Grey.4709:

another thing worth mentioning that no one seemed to talk about yet is living story. season 3 and most likely season 4 will be out before the next expansion they’ll require HoT to play (not sure about unlock) If they dont unlock without HoT thats like 40 euro worth of content right there you’d get for free. Beyond that without season 3 and season 4 it would be 2 years or more you’d need to wait without any new content before the next expansion.

Disclaimer timelines are my own estimate obviously. next expansion might come out quicker or slower then 2 years as well as we may get more or less living world seasons in between.

Which looks likely to be next year going by the rate in which they’re fixing their expansion.

By that time it should of hit the £15 I’ve been waiting for, currently under £20.

There is nothing broken in PVE , just because you don’t like certain changes does not mean it’s broken.

Rabe.2456:

warbignime.4610:

Anet never told people that it’s a cheap way, it’s a non RNG way to get precouser it doesn’t mean cheaper, easier or faster to get.

They just forgot to make it a FUN way. Anybody farming iron by coincidence?

That’s your opinion, for some people if they can’t get what they wanted for 1g in 5 minutes they will consider it not fun. If you don’t like time consuming and gold sink you shouldn’t be looking at legendary in the first place. They are not meant to be cheap or fast.

DoctorDing.5890:

Pros:

- It gives the hardcore players something to be smug and patronising about on the forums.

Cons:

- Those players might find themselves somewhat lonelier in the game after a while.

No hardcore players don’t come to this toxin pit because they are playing the game, casuals don’t come here either because they just want have fun with the game. Only people come here are entitled people who claim to be casual while QQing about literally everything in game like you and me.

sirsquishy.8531:

warbignime.4610:

sirsquishy.8531:

I would say HoT is worth it if you are Free2Play right now. If you have the core game already, I honestly do not think HoT is valued at 49.99 at all. Its an expansion that is worth 29.99 and not 1 penny more.

If you are casual you only get 5 new maps, 2-3 that have good meta’s, 1 that has a crappy meta that never succeeds on a 2 hour cool down, 1 new Class, a handful of soloable achievements that yield skins (mist walker armor for one) and the mastery system (Auto Loot is VERY nice, but should not be a mastery!!!!!!!!)

So even at my 29.99 price, the content just isnt there. But it is NOT worth the full price as it stands.

It’s not about number of maps, need I to remind you that every single HoT map are extremely large and has incredible verticality, so every HoT map is at least 2~3 regular maps. Also TD meta is awesome just because it’s hard doesn’t mean it’s bad, it’s a well designed meta.

5 Maps that can be mapped out in a day if you are OCD about it or a couple of days if you are casual does not make them HUGE maps. Each map is about the size of a major City with 2 Levels. Thats it.

and the Meta I am complaining about is Dragons Stand. If you are not lucky enough to taxi into a successful organized map, you are typically on a farm map with no hope to completion.

The other 3 metas are fine and fun. But we need more content. its not worth the 49.99 we all paid for it. Esp those of us that already had the core game.

Are you serious? If that’s how you calculate things then you might as well say that you can complete entire gw2 in an weekend, because you can easily do map compeletion in an weekend. Then core GW2 pve must be worthless too right?

Agares.6073:

Such an Epic Journey LOL

Pranked by Anet

It is an Epic journey, Is your definition of epic journey requires no gold, time sink and effort to get complete? Because that’s not epic.

This thread…. What are you serious????!! It’s a tiny fraction on top right of screen and one piece of text on loading screen. It’s like saying I don’t care about story instance so Anet have to remove it from my ui. Honestly anyone QQ about this might as well rage at every thing in life. Forum once again has blown my mind with how whiny people can get over nothing.

Massive wall of text, dude use paragraphs and please stop abusing period aka don’t make 3 words sentence.

TheMightyNewb.6789:

I 100 agree in full, they told us that this new system was for players that didn’t have the luck or the money to acquire a pre-cursor weapon. Yet it requires the same if not more money plus extra time gated stuff to acquire these new pre-cursors, its extremely disappointing to have Anet false advertise so to speak, if it wasn’t for a friend of mine that told me it was a gold sink, i would be right where you are my friend because i was looking forward to this new system but however now i am 100 percent completely avoiding it. like Why could Anet have had 4 collections for each precursor, and when you complete each collection you get 1 item out of 4 to put into the Mystic Forge to then craft the weapon. that makes way more sense to me anyways

Anet never told people that it’s a cheap way, it’s a non RNG way to get precouser it doesn’t mean cheaper, easier or faster to get.

Crimson Miu.6827:

Raziel.4216:

Crimson Miu.6827:

warbignime.4610 You can whiteknight all you want, lots of people here thinks it is a grind not to mention the 1-2 hour commitment which has a fair chance to fail and clutter of bags sadly are just a bunch of Blues and Greens to a Meta event

GW2 does feel more like a WoW Clone now. Thanks for pointing that out good sir.

Who are these “lots of people” ? on a game with over 7m accounts, at least 3.5m paid accounts, a “lot of people” would have to be HUGE to represent a significant amount of the population.
Can you provide a source for these “lots of people” who think it’s a grind?

If not, then I’ll follow your claim with “lots of people think it’s not a grind, they’re busy playing”

7 million people playing this game right now? Yeah right, Spoken like a true “Fan” and oh you can check the forums about the people saying about it I see lots of it, even if its not representative of the 7m account you are stating.

By looking at your forums posts it seems you have been quite the defender of anet. You should be playing in-game since your “busy” enjoying the game, not posting here the minute you see someone post a complaint.

Geez do you even read? he never said 7 m people playing he said created account. forum has always been negative because it’s the same group of less than hundred people complain on every little changes and every thing in GW2 since day 1 of launch and they can never be satisfied no matter what. An accurate representation of GW2 loving community is reddit, bad post there can be down voted to oblivion.

sirsquishy.8531:

I would say HoT is worth it if you are Free2Play right now. If you have the core game already, I honestly do not think HoT is valued at 49.99 at all. Its an expansion that is worth 29.99 and not 1 penny more.

If you are casual you only get 5 new maps, 2-3 that have good meta’s, 1 that has a crappy meta that never succeeds on a 2 hour cool down, 1 new Class, a handful of soloable achievements that yield skins (mist walker armor for one) and the mastery system (Auto Loot is VERY nice, but should not be a mastery!!!!!!!!)

So even at my 29.99 price, the content just isnt there. But it is NOT worth the full price as it stands.

It’s not about number of maps, need I to remind you that every single HoT map are extremely large and has incredible verticality, so every HoT map is at least 2~3 regular maps. Also TD meta is awesome just because it’s hard doesn’t mean it’s bad, it’s a well designed meta.

IAMANDLOVE.3095:

Red Mistress Denna.9804:

IAMANDLOVE.3095:

I was very enthusiastic about heart of thorn and as a matter of fact I bought the ultimate Edition the very first day it came out! I was so hyped I give HOT a score of 10 out of 10 without even playing it. Now after 3 weeks and after getting my feet wet in raids I have to say. " boy I am wrong and boy I’m I dis-pointed!" Now I give the game a 1 out of the 10. But don’t get me wrong, I still love the base game guild war 2 I just simply don’t like the expansion!

Here are what I think is currently wrong with Heart of Thorn.

1) mastery system, to be very honest I was hyped when I first learned to fly around and started leveling my mastery points, but after a while I ask myself the simple question, what do I get for putting all this hard work into leveling my mastery? Do i get more powerful? no! Do I get better ways to farm for gold so I can save up for another legendary item? No! Do I get to unlock secret location? Yes, and its disappointing because most of the time there are no reward and I am the only one there! I just simply don’t see a point with the mastery system and as a matter of fact I have stopped leveling it and I just simply don’t care!

2) disappointed wvw, and as a matter of fact many people have stopped playing wvw, this is mainly due to the new zones being created.

3) Raid, I am very hyped about raid, but after getting my feet wet I see many problem with the current state of raid!

A) no looking for raid group on the group finder! This is just stupid because even WOW allows you to atomically look for people via the Dungeon Finder!

B) the raid mechanic are stupidly easy compared to WOW, as a matter of fact the only difficulty with the raid comes from the enrage timer, I have spend over 30 hours with various pick up group and guild trying to down the very first boss Vail Guardian and we couldn’t do it. Now I am not against hard content, what I am against is only releasing hard content and not having a similar easier difficulty. The great game developer side meier said you need at least two difficulty hard and normal. Now world of warcraft made their raid difficulty correct, they have normal difficulty, heroic and mythic! I mean come on guild war 2 development team how can you kitten this up? And is very simple to have a easier difficulty just give us more time!
Hence I suggest for raid there should be 3 difficulty
Normal engage timer goes off after 15 minute
Heroic enrage timer goes off after 12 minute
Hard enrage timer goes off after 8 minute
and to make everyone happy each difficulty give different reward, for example on hard difficulty the raid give you more guild and more crafting material for your legendary, and their should be a leader board on who can beat the raid faster!

4) Dungeons got destroyed, Dungeons use to be one of my favorite activities in Guild War two and it has always been a nice extra to get the gold and mats. Now they have nerfed dungeons down to nothing, I mean why would you nerf a fantstic content like Dungeons? WHy would you destroy the best part of guild war 2? now for people who crave 5 man dungeon content they will have to run Fractals over and over again! But they haven’t even added anything new to fractals! Its basically the same thing!

Personally, I love HoT and it is the only reason I have returned to GW2 from a fairly lengthy break. However, I do agree with some statements:

Namely, the Raids. I love the difficulty of the Raid. Learning the mechanics, working as a team rather than a ragtag group of DPS’ers, it’s great. But the enrage timer kinda sucks, and I would love to see tiered difficulties like you suggested. (Or even just make it like in GW1 where you got Bonuses for completing it in time). Also, the Enrage timer makes it seriously difficult (if not impossible) to utilize the ‘varied builds’ that Anet touted pre-release. You want to be a mildly tanky dps? Sorry, we’ve already got our one tank: gotta go zerker. I will grant that they have added a use for tank and healer, though.

well I am sorry to inform you but there is nothing you are missing out if you dont buy HOT!

What are you talking about he is enjoying HoT.

Grim West.3194:

Wait for a sale. It’s not worth full price.

Most of the content is just grinding BS. The zones get very old, very quickly. The events are boring. The grind is horrible.

If they put out a major patch soon that actually address all the incompetent design decisions they made then it might be worth it. But given the state of ANET atm, I wouldn’t count on it.

Again time consuming progression are not grind. HoT maps are amazingly designed which offers tons of content. If you think HoT zone events are boring then core zone events are snooze feast, and if that’s the case why are you playing pve anyway?

Shen Slayer.3058:

Oh hell No!!!! After this expansion, I’m pretty much done with this franchise. I don’t care is there’s GW 3, 4,5 or 10. I’m just so done with Anet, they don’t have the same visions as the original GW1 developer. It’s just getting worst and worst.

Then please send all gold and T6/7 mats to the id to the left ty.

How does this has anything to do with cash grab, stop tag money grab on every thing.

Also didn’t they fix this last patch? I saw guild mission fix last patch.

Crimson Miu.6827:

Nope.

This game is starting to stink like all the other F2P MMOs out there.
-Gold Grind
-Raids
-Level Grind (Masteries/HeroPoints)
-Money Grabbing Tactics (Massive Gold Sinks, Rewards removed from Core game etc.)

Colin even said this during his interview with Angry Joe…
“We want to challenge the conventions on the way you expand an MMO.”
“We want to do something diffirent.”

Adds Raids, Level Grind, and All the Kitten that made GW2 more similar to other MMOs

Mind Blown

Are you serious? If you consider that a grind then you have no idea what actual grind is and might as well call every rpg ever grind, stop calling time consuming grind. I get it for some people if they can’t spam 1 for 2 hours to max everything out they will call it grind then complain on forum, but seriously go play eq again if you want know what is actual grind.

Just because it’s called raid doesn’t means the content is like any other mmo or else you might as well call gw2 a wow clone for having levels and dungeons.

Mind Blown, some people here.

Ok I Did It.2854:

My advice to anyone who hasn’t bought HoT yet is to seriously read threw the forums, some people will say its just haters going to hate, but when you see topic after topic on the same things, its time to pay attention, so many people cannot be wrong,

There are some major issues with HoT that need addressing, thus far anet have ignored both ingame and on the forums, these range from simple things to map breaking/ game breaking for some people,

As much as I have enjoyed HoT so far, I would tell anyone new to the game to tread with caution, as it may not be what you are expecting.

When the patch hits in December for fractals, if it does not address some of the other issues that have been raised by the community, regards XP, Grinding, Broken Meta ( TD ) I will then recommend to people I know whom haven’t gotten HoT not to get it, until such time Anet pays attention to the people who are keeping them in a job.

Do not read thread on forum for actual community opinion, this place is a toxin pit. Go on reddit for actual gw2 community. Forum are filled with complainers since day one laumch of the game, they literally complain about every little changes.

Kraggy.4169:

Lunar Sunset.8742:

Keep your WoW out of my GW2. LOL!

Too late, Anet just did that by adding raids.

Just because it’s called raid doesn’t mean it’s a step closer to wow, or else you might as well calling gw2 a wow clone for have levels and dungeons.

Kill.3458:

Heck no, ill wait till its released and measure the forum outcry/opinions of guildies before I give ANet a single dollar.

While the HoT maps are stunning,, ANet made a 180 degree design change that im just not down with.

Addressing forum complain is not possible because forum literally complain about every single thing in GW2 and every changes no matter good or bad.

Yes Anet made design change and it’s good decision, old maps are boring and brainless. New maps are challenging and fun if you want casual content core tyria offers plenty.

Fenom.9457:

yes. I wasn’t a fan of the farming/grind increase, but I understand it may not always be like that and HoT is because it’s the ONLY thing for ppl who truly love grind (other than legendaries.) Either way is was definitely good enough for me to continue buying stuff in the game

Playing game for time consuming progression is NOTTTTTT GRIND. Stop calling playing the game grind.

Of course you should buy it, HoT is amazing so far and well received out side of official forum. People here are not accurate representation of gw2 community. I suggest you ask in Lion Arch, you know people that actually plays the game. People here are angry and hateful. Maybe you should post on Reddit it’s way better than forum.

Do not even bother asking question like this on forum, this forum is filled with angry and entitled people. More like a toxin pit than discussion forum I would say.

Go ask this on Reddit and you will get actual response, Reddit is a more accurate representation of GW2 loving community. This is a battleground of hatred and arguing.

Still working on my BO, kitten that Exalted lv6 .

Gaaroth.2567:

Grind? Don’t make me laugh! How on earth you give meaningfull progression without a bit of of work? Don’t mistake progression with grind….I see too much of this mistake around…

Exactly this, Thank you for saying this, time consuming=/= grind. People have no idea what actual grind is.

There are already multiple thread on this, no need to make another.

Daddicus.6128:

warbignime.4610:

I don’t get your logical, why you have to go to that little spot you can not access now, there are many more things to do and level the mastery on the way of doing them. You play video games for content not level up.

Well, I wouldn’t expect anybody to get my logical, but my logic is fairly straightforward. But, that probably was just a typo.

I was referring to masteries. Masteries start at a million XP, the equivalent of 4 levels worth. So, it costs 4 levels (or, 1 million XP) to get the mastery I need to attain the third mastery point. Then, I’m stuck until I earn 2 more million XP to get to the next couple of hero points. Oh, and I can’t advance the main story, either, for the same reasons.

Why do I want to get to that little spot? Have you so soon forgotten that you had no choice? You couldn’t advance the story until you got one of the masteries, and you couldn’t get those needed hero points so you could use your new elite specialization.

Am I missing something?

Tell me you don’t consider this to be a grind: killing random monsters and doing random events PURELY so you can get to the next step of the story. It’s not even to earn money; just XP. It doesn’t get more grinding than that.

There are so many hero points that only require no mastery or very basic ones. The masteries needed for story can be done in a matter of a few hours what are you talking about?

Daddicus.6128:

warbignime.4610:

Masteries are not boring and grindy, it’s only grindy if you make it that way. Mastery are progreesion system that last months to come, you can easily level it up by playing regularly in the jungle and there are variety of activities to level it up. Actual grind are cof p1 and spider farm, playing content to earn time consuming progression are not grind or else every RPG is GRIND.

You can’t be serious. What could possibly be more grinding than having to gain the equivalent of 4 levels just to progress into the next spot on the map? The ONLY reason to have to spend that time is to pass a gate. And then, when you get to that spot, you have to do it again, but this time you have to gain 8 levels of XP.

That is the very definition of grindy.

I don’t get your logical, why you have to go to that little spot you can not access now, there are many more things to do and level the mastery on the way of doing them. You play video games for content not level up.

Daddicus.6128:

No way. HoT totally screwed me. They turned the game into a grind. I think it’s unlikely I’ll still be playing when their next expansion comes out.

And pre-purchase was harmful. If I had waited, I could have seen the torrent of dumb things they did, and I wouldn’t have bought it at all. It wasn’t that it was too much money. It’s that it was a decidedly negative addition to the game, but now I’m stuck with it.

Again stop calling time consuming progression grind, if you call playing in jungle grind then you might as well call every single rpg ever grind.

To answer the OP of course I would, Having a blast playing HoT. I played so much since release yet still have so much to do and still having so much fun everywhere.

saturn.4810:

In the past, Anet listened to many complaints. Atm not so much anymore, but still a bit.

They will improve the fracral rewards. They made more items depositable. Also, they nerfed druid and removed minstrel amulet in PvP.

Anet listened to complains, people complaint there are not enough hardcore content, now that we have hardcore content the same people are complaining about it. There are people on this forum will literally complain no matter what Anet do.

Umm, what? Dude you can enter guild hall without xpac, just click guild hall on guild ui.

eldrin.6471:

so people you ask in games opinions matter more to you than the thousands of posts on these forums?well each to there own.

Also Reddit, if you want accurate representation reddit is the place to go, also a lot of post are made by a few people posting multiple times so thousand is kind of exaggeration , it is nothing compare to the GW2 population as a whole. The fact is people who are unhappy are way more likely to post on forum, and bad post here can not be down voted to oblivion like reddit.

eldrin.6471:

and were exactly are you getting the opinions of the majority of players from?

People playing the game, I asked many times in many occasion in game. Hundreds of people responded and people rarely dislike HoT.

Kind of have to agree with this, forcing players to fail events in order to progress seems ridiculous.

eldrin.6471:

At this stage i would not trust anet to boil an egg.first big content release in years and they screwed it up.ye you got 1% going oh great we got raids,but most are saying this xpac is a mess.you grind mastery and master nothing but the ability to fail over and over and over at meta events that were never tested properly and were not fixed in-spite of community uproar.

No, I only seeing official forum complain that xpac is a mess, majority of players are pretty happy and impressed about HoT, and official forum complainers think everything ever is a mess.

eldrin.6471:

MASTERYS ARE A PROGRESSION SYSTEM?To what exactly? i grind ed myself to lvl 161 and progressed to TD were iv failed 17 times on organized maps with gw2community
We got mastery and they are the game there is nothing to progress to.So dont kid your self ,your mastering a kitten ton of xp and mastery points and there is nothing to master them for,there is no game.just masterys. and at this point i must say having realized that i really do not like anet or there dishonesty..

Your sentence doesn’t make any sense I don’t understand what’s your point.

1)What’s your point? you listed bunch of reward that mastery never meant to give, mastery award you with new abilities and features . That is the best way of progression, we have other content to reward you gears and gold. Your points are illogical.

2)WVW is not empty, it’s simply because alot of players are still enjoying the pve content as well that new borderlands are so huge that it still feels empty even the server reached player cap.

3) The fact is raid is generally well received in the hardcore community and provided the hardcore endgame content us wanted.

A)If you lack the communication skill in order to find a group in your guild/map chat which is honestly so easy then you do not have the communication skill in order to beat raid.

B)You are saying WoW difficulty without understanding what WoW difficulty tier means, in WoW lower raid difficulty simply means lower stats and lower gear score needed , it has nothing to do with the actual difficulty. If you want easy stuff then GW2 have plenty and plenty of easy content for you everywhere in the game, raid is meant for the minority hardcore people, add easy difficulty remove the whole point of making raid.

4) Dungeon got destoryed? So you like to basically spam boring and mindless content in order to earn gold, Dungeon was bad before because it rewarded you massive amount of gold without putting in much effort at all, now it just simply reward you the right amount of gold for your effort which in my honest opinion is still to high.

Daddicus.6128:

nGumball.1283:

I have been using the forums for the past three years, and GW2 forums were never a friendly platform for people to exchange advice, not in the general discussion at least.

Whenever GW2 has any kind of activity or update, there is always complaints. Alot of people are implying that HoT ruined everything and that’s why people are complaining. However, people were complaining as much before HoT, saying that ANet always releases easy content and they should be releasing an expansion with a harder approach.

Sure, there is alot of flaws in HoT. However, these forums have always been a place of complaints. And the only times they are friendly is when the forums are dead and there is nothing to complain about.

Wrong. I did not complain at all between the abysmal magic find torture they “gave” us and HoT. Not one word of complaint.

I’m complaining now because they’re destroying the game. They’re trying to make it WoW. News flash: I play GW over WoW for a reason. Or, at least I used to. Those reasons have faded considerably lately.

This game was NEVER boring before HoT. It was NEVER grindy (despite some opinions to the contrary). They openly stated many times that GW would never be grindy. But, masteries have made it incredibly boring and grindy.

Masteries are not boring and grindy, it’s only grindy if you make it that way. Mastery are progreesion system that last months to come, you can easily level it up by playing regularly in the jungle and there are variety of activities to level it up. Actual grind are cof p1 and spider farm, playing content to earn time consuming progression are not grind or else every RPG is GRIND.

That blue rock with red circle is obvious enough, never got hit by that after a few attempts.

Need I remind you that official forum is filled with complain since day 1 of the game launch. People here literally complain about everything and every little changes no matter the good and the bad.

So welcome to GW2 official forum.

Enrage timer is needed in order to prevent everyone running nomads and just tank all the way through. It’s been proven that successful group does not included everyone being zerker. A healer and a tank is required, it’s more about doing the mechanic perfectly and not to waste extra dps on circle and blue rocks.

Most things you listed are exaggerated and untrue. These are basically your personal opinion/experience and can not be applied to other people.

Celtic Lady.3729:

There is no way all the people in a raid are going to be able to wear toughness gear and beat that timer.

Yet most people I’ve pugged with seem convinced they need toughness gear for raids and are geared that way. So DPS is low overall.

Just doesn’t work.

That’s not even true, all groups managed to bean vale guardian have 1 tank with high toughness, that’s a fact.

Bread.7516:

warbignime.4610:

Bread.7516:

Honestly I’m disappointed, I wanted a fight not a mini-game/gimmick. For HoT only VB has bosses that are in the right direction (minus the zerg fest). They could work on more diverse behavioral mechanics instead of mini-games.

Dodge duck dip dive dodge…and block, countering, stepping in and out – that’s a fight

Guess this is the direction they’re heading.

If by minigame you mean to actually use brain and think rather than mindlessly press 1 then of course it is.

You mean something everyone has figured out on release? It’s mostly just awareness than anything, not “brain” or analysis; simple observation really.

I want a fight. Block right, dodge right, step in and out. If you don’t understand this then I guess you have no combat experience

fyi – chronomancer, so no, not press 1.

And using cc, spliting groups and positionimg are not? what a joke.

Bread.7516:

Honestly I’m disappointed, I wanted a fight not a mini-game/gimmick. For HoT only VB has bosses that are in the right direction (minus the zerg fest). They could work on more diverse behavioral mechanics instead of mini-games.

Dodge duck dip dive dodge…and block, countering, stepping in and out – that’s a fight

Guess this is the direction they’re heading.

If by minigame you mean to actually use brain and think rather than mindlessly press 1 then of course it is.

They are so amazing, even though I never managed to beat the first boss, got him to 20% tho. Been playing for 10 hours straight and just having so much fun getting rekt. Because we know that it’s possible and we keep improving.

This is offical forum, most toxic and offensive part of GW2 community, what did you expect came in here.