Guild Wars 2

Questions I ask myself whenever boot up gw2 and scroll over the ranger toon……

hmmm……..I’m tempted.

atheria.2837:

NargofWoV.4267:

“Well, recently I’ve been wondering what is the best number of each class to run when running 20-25 man skill groups.

I think it mainly depends on your goal, but say it was busting big blobs, what would be a good ratio of classes to run to both stay alive and do a lot of damage. I usually run about 5-6 warriors, 4-5 guardians, 1-2 eles, 2 engineers, 1 necro, 2-3 mesmers and one ranger/thief.

Anyway, just thought i’d get some other peoples opinions on it. If you’re experienced with havoc groups, post your thoughts!

Commander Noodica.
Midnight Mafia [MM] | BP
http://www.midnightmafia.net/"

Sums up how we are thought of as Rangers in wvw.

A group of Rangers can’t be stopped – problem is, we don’t group together and use our skills effectively in a zerg or havoc group.

Many will run from a group of three or more Rangers – problem is most commanders don’t use us well.

One thing. Check your commanders the next time you are in WvW… more and more of THEM are Rangers.

Id like to see a zerg of rangers.

I’ve asked for this constantly and no reply from Anet.

What. so. ever.

Boomstin.3460:

I want a ‘low hanging fruit’ as a pet. f2 skill should transform my ranger into a warrior for 30 seconds with 30 second cooldown.

That would be OP, shame on you boom. lolololol we’d be unstoppable.

I want a pet that works…..

Skirmishing XII – Moment of Clarity. Stun Duration increased from 50% to 100%.

The skills used to offset this are terrible, getting stun skills to hit on ranger is bleh.

Wilderness 5 Natural Vigor. Reduced the increased endurance regeneration from 50% to 25%.

W.T.F. Seriously. Anet just goes lower and lower. Beating a horses skeleton into the
ground was not enough.

Wilderness XII – Bark Skin Increased the damage reduction from 30% to 50%.

………..this is what you compensate us with for the abysmal stuff above???

Nature Magic I – Circle of Life. Cleared up the text of this trait to clearly identify that it happens when downed, not defeated.

No one uses this useless trait. Waste of time. NEXT.

Nature Magic IX – Two Handed Training. Added the following functionality to this trait. Greatsword and Spear attacks have a chance to grant Fury on hit. 50% chance. 3s Fury. 10s cooldown.

I dont use greatswords anywho.

Nature Magic X – Enlargement. This trait now uses Signet of the Wild to trigger. This reduces the cooldown to 60 seconds and allow it to interact with the Signet of the Beastmaster and Signet Mastery traits.

Why do we have to work so hard just for this?

Nature Magic XI – Spirits Unbound. Moved to Master Tier.

Spirits should be able to move on there own, without traits.

Sun Spirit. Reduced the passive burning from 3s to 2s.

Stomp on spirit builds more plox.

Storm Spirit. Reduced the damage from the Call Lightning skill by 33%

More spirit stomp.

Rangers if you all cant see how much a joke Anet is with this is…….

LOL.

I come back and this is what Anet is doing now…….

going back to leveling my other profs……..

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

Anet telling us l2p?

Cause thats all I got from this, is so they need to pick a dev to play ranger religiously for a month pve/pvp/wvw. On the highest rank servers. No Arenanet tag. Free-balling.

This is the biggest comedy yet.

Good luck on the wait, I expect some other useless changes by dec – In the mean time I will be throwing my energies elsewhere, like I have been for a while.

Chopps.5047:

Confirmed: thieves steal a 15s water field from ranger according to docMed’s twitch stream. haha that’s pretty funny.

LOL talk about fair.

15 secs and we get a nerf to our most useful field, lol time to continue using steam.

Steam craps on alot of game company’s these days.

LOL, good thing Im not playing gw2.

Ranger updates are a joke.

You all keep on being optimistic about change.

Terkov.4138:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlY9zmStiMU

I’m afraid this 1 counter to stealth won’t be enough…

+1

Terkov.4138:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlY9zmStiMU

I’m afraid this 1 counter to stealth won’t be enough…

+1

Jesus Christ….

^You dont seem to realize how easy thieves down rangers, do I have have to scan the warrior and thief and forums to find post calling the class bad? Do I have to start taking videos so you can see?

We all cant be top players ok?

What I have realized during my time in WvW is that most rangers CANNOT play Glasscannon, The build that is required to play to do the highest direct damage possible. (even then it sucks, pet is part of your damage)

I bunker or trap on my ranger….always… thieves are a bit easier that way and its makes them kitten there pants. With the current meta you have to be a bit smarter but meh.

Bunker or become super good with glasscannon and still go down easy your choice.
Anet has declared this with the silent action.

Unholy Pillager.3791:

GW1 did have plenty of things that only 1 profession could do well. For example, rangers were the only ones who could bring survivability, splitting ability, long range, interrupts and heavy health degeneration all on one bar in PvP. Expertise and the high cost of bow skills mean that a secondary profession couldn’t pull it off. After the dervish rework, they were similar in many ways…my PvP dervish build (before they nerfed the kitten out of onslaught) had good healing, toughness, mobility and, best of all, strong condition and hex removal. No other martial class could do that.

Unholy Pillager.3791:

Guild Wars 1 ranger has no successor in this game.

That is all.

I say nay to the whip…..

Agreed Most of the male faces are the most Creamy, Moist, Anime – Sissified, Unmanly pukathon this side of Tyria.

Yuck.

+1 for unsoulbinding.

I’d pay for that.

LeeroyNimoy.1864:

A lot of those aren’t all that skimpy, compared to other MMOs or even to other armors in the game.

Agreed.

Really some of those armors are not skimpy – I think whoever did that on dulfy went along the lines with anything that show’s skin, Even some of the male armors leave much to the imagination.

I get your point, and the thing is Sex sells. Mostly males play MMORPG’s like this…What do men like in general? Women.

Human males/Norn male’s do not look alike.

Norn females should not look like human females but guess what? They do. Why? The voluptuous huge bodies sell.

Women with too much muscle turn most people off. (I’m the exception) Most guys don’t want to look at other guys.

Everyone relys on the physical traits of the opposite sex, males are just more open about it than females are.

There are alot of armors available that cover everything is that’s your shtick’.
You can even mix and match alot of them as well….

We in the ranger forum have asked for this for ages, I’m just copy, pasting and editing what I typed in the other forum.

Thief withdraw dances circles around LR’s
(withdraw is 15s On cool down NOT traited…..HOLY kitten)
LR’s 40 Cool-down/36 traited.

Just remove the damage and replace it with 1s stun.

Jfyi
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Withdraw
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Lightning_Reflexes
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The only thing that would make it EVEN better is to make it go in any direction you like…similar to swoop.

That is all, I might as well try….toodles….

Been asking for Immobilize removal for….. AGES!.

Plus I find the Cool-down on it too high even when traited.

Thief withdraw dances circles around LR’s
(withdraw is 15s On cool down NOT traited…..HOLY kitten)
LR’s 40 Cool-down/36 traited.

The remove the damage replace with stun. Leave the vigor as is…. whats wrong with you….

Jfyi
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Withdraw

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Lightning_Reflexes
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The only thing that would make it EVEN better is to make it go in any direction you like…similar to swoop.

The Aetherized warhorn is boss, expensive as kitten tho.

Untraited sic em rangers are food for shadow stepping /pistol thieves.
Fight reset = you no sic em. /GG

At BEST this will make thieves target someone else. And that’s just wishful thinking.

As someone said on the forums, bunker to survive – that was the only way for me. I refuse to go glass-cannon it’s way to easy for thieves to shank you down.

Dont any of you be fooled.

Thanks but no thanks.

…………………………………………………………………..Interesting lets see how this plays out, Btw I’ve never used sic em…EVER..

I’m not jumping for joy or anything.

Just waiting to see how this goes.

Awaiting the weapon changes and the follow up on healing spring because I know you all love it. Not me tho.

LOL If this is legit all the more reason to re-roll or focus on other things.

Gw = Ranger
Gw2 = Person with cheap knockoff tricks.

Dont remember who said it, but rangers have “forgotten” Everything they knew since gw1.

Ane’t should have kept the Warden title, there is no ranger here.

Getefix.9150:

personally i belive that this is a human myth, just like with the myth that the gods created the world of tyria, there are so many pieces of contradicting information on the origin/homelands of humans

The kingdom of Kryta was originally a colony of Elona, established in 300 AE,

The current earliest known records of Elona is in 205 BE, when humans arrived along the southern shores and northern valleys of the continent

The oldest records of Canthan activities date back to 786 BE, when humanity first arrived along the northern shores of the continent.

one of the devs said that humans came from south of cantha…

seeing how the elonians came from the south AND the north…. im confused, are there 2 sets of humans, one from the mists and one from south of cantha? why did elona have the colony in kryta and not orr? wouldnt orr have been the nearest other human settlement?

Call it a mix of bad writing and loose end’s.

Full celestial GEAR BRO!!!!!!

Chadramar.8156:

I tend to have a problem with “outsiders” trying to appropriate elements from another culture.

Oh boy, this can translate into so many things but no need to go there.

Culture is never constant some die while other change, that includes its people.
If this is something people can not accept it will spoil them and make them even worse.

Anyway Gw1 showed humans could become one of the spirits, outside the usual “physical” transformation.

As long as your willing to revere that spirit and respect it, It would grant you a boon.

Lopez.7369:

Plague stomp, hooooo.

this

Aeri.5738:

Starting with BWE3 Ranger recieved nerf over nerf, resulting in a class that is cornered into 1 (!!!) viale Build – Spiritranger.

Last Weekend I finally tryed my Warrior, Guardian and Mesmer in tPvP and it was a real joy.
Not only are the capable of defending themselves while dealing tons of damage themselves, they also have several builds that are actually viable.

In comparison with Ranger:
The Bad:
1) Buggy Pet
2) Low direct Damage (even lower than other Power builds, -> Mesmer Warrior Guardian)
3) Low Pet Damage
4) Horrible survivability (if not BM or Spirit Ranger, but as I said I dont like those)

For those who don’t like that particular build: there is nothing a Ranger can offer in sPvP.
ANet nerfed the Ranger to a Point, where we are cornerd into 1 build.
This is not fun, build diversity is.
The classes I tried this weekend were very fun to play, but most fun was trying different build and having a chance and a purpose in every single match I played.
I didn’t “rock hard” or “facerolled”, but I played decently and had fun.
Something I am missing for sPvP Rangers since the game released.

Cut out all the extra not needed +1 to these.

Working as intending assumptions don’t go well with me.

Frosty and Frosty Law Firm.4981:

None of the above, depending on the competence of those around you.

Say you’re with a good group of non-rangers: They’ll do whatever you do, but better. You’d be better off just going warrior or one of the classes that Anet designed with a hint of competence.

Say you’re with a meh group- List compiled below.

PvP: Depends. You’ll usually be skinned alive, stuck on a stick and made into tasty ranch-dipped Charr fritters. If this isn’t the usual, you’ll probably do -okay-. I’ve seen under rare circumstances Rangers doing good, but only do I see professionals doing ‘great’ on the forums.

PvE: Depending on your build and gear, you can shine here. Given, everybody else will have flashlights while you will be a half-depleted candle, but hey, you’ll get by if you do well. Try hard and believe in yourself and whatnot… If you’re particularly good, you might lead groups or level off with your better-designed compatriots. Just don’t expect to be invited to that CoF run.

WvW: Not to be confused with sPvP. You can support your team here in a multitude of ways. Key word ‘support’. You’ll never be leading any charges unless you want to be torn to bear-spattered pieces by a hail of auto-attacks. You’ll never be one-shotting enemies or scourging enemy camps or descending upon their scouts with vicious abandon. No, those jobs are for better-equipped specialists. In short, you can either shine or suffer here, depending on how you consider it. I take the role of a defender most of the time with my longbow. Not the best weapon, but it gets the job done and the tops of walls are an environment in which that horrid ‘1’ mechanic actually works in my favor.

Open-world: Here, the Ranger’s full potential is realized. You are free to fight and kite as you choose, the glaring flaws of your profession making far less of an impact on you and anyone you travel with. There is no pressure to do high DPS or fight for an objective here, in most cases. You are free to do as you please, and here, the ‘jack-of-all-trades’ mentality of the developers benefits you rather than holding you back. I find wandering Tyria as a ranger to be the most fun of any of the options presented.

+1

Stx.4857:

Male Norns just look ridiculous. I would have made one(their racials are actually great for necro in wvw), but I can’t enjoy playing as a big stumbling bafoon.

Please ignore this, I’ve had enough. Do not feed it.

Unholy Pillager.3791:

GW1 did have plenty of things that only 1 profession could do well. For example, rangers were the only ones who could bring survivability, splitting ability, long range, interrupts and heavy health degeneration all on one bar in PvP. Expertise and the high cost of bow skills mean that a secondary profession couldn’t pull it off. After the dervish rework, they were similar in many ways…my PvP dervish build (before they nerfed the kitten out of onslaught) had good healing, toughness, mobility and, best of all, strong condition and hex removal. No other martial class could do that.

The major threat to the uniqueness of professions was the necromancer. In PvE, they could do any spellcaster’s role, often better than the primary class could, due to soul reaping.

LOL maybe we should just go back to gw1..huh unholy?

Ok, what are you trying to do?

Go Zerker?

Full DPS?

This seems relatively new give it a try.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Hydralisk-control-zerg-ranger-v2-0

Bunker/Conditions ?

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=VF;5F-v-f2VEF-0;9-02;19-T9J2;356A5;049-7-11V;1QitaQitaM7lPkK-3X;1VMVRWWXa2g3m49R-6-0F-8ZF18Z;9;9;9;9;9;4V6s5n

This is an old one you’ll have to talior it to fit your needs, Xsorus made this one a while back.

Here’s another link for you to look in, since you dont want any crud about the state rangers are in.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Sentinel-Frontliner-Next-Level-WvW-Ranger

^ Even more builds in there.

Another created by Xso

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Ranger-Dazer-Hybrid-Build-2-0-Movie

And another.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/LOL-Protection-build-Updated

All of this could have been done by you easy.

In a WvW setting – You’ll want to have all your bases covered, that means Stun breaks and condition clears.

Sure I like how you are very articulate with your words, but don’t try to temper the anger that has been looming on the ranger forums.

I understand being resilient but I have run all out of it, so i’m re-rolling. I’ve been here for quite a while, I have yet to see them make anything better.

Adapt, overcome, blarg – Its come to a point where you just go – “I’m tried of it”

They dont have to respond to us? What planet do you live on? We are their players, the supporters of this game, beside’s Anet spams the PvP forums ALOT.

Guess Im not a ranger by your standards and Im cool with that – I work by my own standards. Until they do something about this incredible mess – Im gonna go try other classes see how it goes, and if possible find something else to occupy my time. Its really that simple.

Yes they read them and remove threads that make them quiver. 2 threads have been magically removed today.

They’ll remove this one too and prob infraction me for saying it, if this hurts there image in anyway.

Stop being lazy.

Click on forums > click ranger > look at the top of the forum > New-To-Rangers-Looking-for-guides.

Open your eye’s.

Come again after you have done so.

Dont expect anything new.

That ranger kited well, good for him/her- We rangers have enough trouble with Anet as it is. He had legit buff’s on him. They are not perma but they last a while.

ChillyChinaman.6057:

Asthalon.6875:

Terkov.4138:

Meh, what about something with less legs?

You lack ambition.

How about something with more legs?

Octopus? Land Octopus?

LOL, Both of you have won all my internets for today.

You missed the killer thread that made Anet uncomfortable about the state of rangers – It was deleted Silently a few hour’s ago. Says something doesn’t it?

You’ve been gone for a month or so no? So you missed the planet wide pet nerf?

Spirit Builds will have to be carefully played from now on – 25 sec on recharge /GG

People have deleted there rangers, you know the drill. Anet beating a almost dead class into the ground was not enough for them. (paragon past)

Im re-rolling other chars as well.

Trying Guardian and Necro.

Anywho welcome back, I’m sure someone with a shinier disposition will counter everything I have to say.

Fjandi.2516:

So this daecollo guy keeps opening qq threads about random things. You look like a fool.

Daecollo.9578:

Ranger has Traited Signet of the Wild, which is 8 seconds of you and your pet having Invulnerability.

Invulnerability? You don’t even know this class.

Daecollo.9578:

Ranger attacks have evades built right in, the Greatsword’s Autoattack is far superior to Shield Block.

Lol.

Daecollo.9578:

Looks like I need to teach you math.

Pls don’t talk about math epsilon. You’re not worthy.

LOL

This person cant be serious……..

I got bigger fish to fry with mods deleting threads to avoid responses…… this however is one of the worst post set up by an individual on the ranger forums, Ignore the troll and concentrate on the big fish.

Dont give it the time of the day…..You know what never mind.

Listen to this guy Anet, Nothing has stopped you all from nerfing rangers into hell.

Beat the dead horse more please.

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

thrice.9184:

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

thrice.9184:

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

Warrior>Ranger>Necro=Engineer>Guardian=Thief>Mesmer>Ele.
1v1 with the well known builds.

sorta…

LOL thats funny.

yeah , truth can be that at times..

Your truth you mean, but im not going any further.

tata~

That is useful.
I might as well call you names without further explanation.

We can take this to Pm’s if you’d like no one will get in trouble that way….
slug it out there un-impeded by mods.
shrugs
It’s of no concern to me.

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

thrice.9184:

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

Warrior>Ranger>Necro=Engineer>Guardian=Thief>Mesmer>Ele.
1v1 with the well known builds.

sorta…

LOL thats funny.

yeah , truth can be that at times..

Your truth you mean, but im not going any further.

tata~

O_o
Weird post, you are brave for posting something like this – You will be laughed at yes, but you had your thoughts bared anyway. Good for you.

There’s a whole lot of issues with this thing you’d like implemented.

And the first thing is – This is a game that has been dumbed down since gw1, for a larger audience that means Waaaaaay more children this wont mix well with the parents that flocked to this series in droves to get there children in on the action.

Anet will not want the attention of anything that involves children and “dates”, just too many variables. And lawsuits……

Better to just stick to the olde Marriage function that alot of older games have….Like Ragnarok.

Other’s can fill in the rest.

cosigned.

I guess….

The main issue with dual professions is the balancing act the devs have to play, it was like this for gw1.

And even when they “tried” to balance it, they killed off Paragons making them utterly useless… only useful for PvE (and only very specific skill were used) – anything after that was madness. Ritualist survived the culling….barely.

Anet has already “canon’ed” out 2nd profs…..

It made the game alot more interesting that’s for sure, It will be dearly missed.

…..this is funny, people calling rangers op – The statement in itself is ridiculous, Expect to see even less rangers that’s for sure.

Hurry up innovative person – create another build that can kill players and make them kitten ed about losing to a ranger.

Resulting in PvP QQ, thus

Anet swings the Nerf bat on them again and again and again and again and again and again, like they have done in the past.

What role do you want rangers to have anyway? Is there even a role?

I’ll wait.