Guild Wars 2

drkillerx.7348:

i read over and over your guides i been using 10/25/0/10/25 but is all the slot triats situational. i was wanting to know if shouts or what is better. also, i see so much junk on youtube for like a 0/0/30/30/10 build that says its best for overall is this true i just want to set something that i can stick with for awhile without changing to to much im new to 80 no money and working on exotics thanks

Regarding utilities, regardless of class you should always be thinking about swapping skills to fit the next pull or situation.

With the core dps build, you will never need 3 shouts in PVE. You’ll find Purging Flames and WoR being used a lot, along with SYG or Retreat. Again, it’s situational so swap as needed. For example, in CoE, there is no need to have SYG on your bar against Alpha. Retreat and PF yeah sure, so in situations where the 3rd skill is an unknown, use Bane Signet for more damage.

obal.3218:

ForGreatJustice.3452:

But, but, but Gandalf advocates staff!

I think Gandalf would have been proud of your ~14 min staff lupi video. It will encourage more pugs to defend their stick shouting, ‘HEY, STAFF OP DPS, CAN KILL LUPI IN SIX MIN, VIDEO PROOF EXISTS’".

coglin.1867:

In a comparison to other mobs in this game, how many of them offer you a guaranteed reward? What percentage of raid mobs in other MMOs offer you a guaranteed reward?

I am asking because it appears to me that this wouldn’t be something you would expect. Guaranteed rewards are not the norm, so I do not understand how you can dislike an encounter because it does not guarantee rewards.

I have never had to invest more then like 30 minutes. if you spending 1-3 hours, that is an issue with you as I see it, not the encounter.

Honestly though, this is what a lot of us asked for. Not everyone can completely enjoy it, as with every encounter, it will have it fans, and those who do not like it.

1) Let me rephrase the “guaranteed reward” part, I should have instead said “imbalanced rewards vs. other PVE content.” I’m not keen on spending more than an hour plus to get blues and greens and one gold instead of doing multiple dungeons and earning around 8 gold not counting trash loot. That’s a poor decision when I’m trying to maximize my limited playtime.

2) And yes the encounter does take more than an hour. The encounter (fail or success) is short, true, around 15 mins. It’s the window leading up to it that’s killer. Therefore my analogy with other mmo raids can be accurate because the window CAN and OFTEN has made the overall Teq. experience be 2 hours and change… again for blues and greens.

So yes, my pov is coming from a rewards balance perspective. And I’m sure that this is one of the reasons some people have stopped doing Teq.

The encounter isn’t my problem, I love it and have been fortunate enough to have taken part in several successful kill attempts. However, what stopped me were two things:

1) amount of time investment – yeah raids in other MMO would be a 1-3 hour commitment but…

2) lack of guaranteed rewards – without the rewards to justify such a time commitment, I’m just playing a slot machine essentially.

But, but, but Gandalf advocates staff!

Being someone that farmed gold almost a year ago to purchase the T3 light set for my necro (whom I never use, but she looks hawt at least), this reversal is very welcome.

However, like others noted, this is sketchy. Something tells me that ANet purposely did this as a trial run to see if they can get away with selling reskins of grindy skins i.e. cultural armors, legendaries. Thankfully, seems like the backlash was strong enough to counteract this… for now.

@OP
The biggest thing you’ve probably realized by now that you have a bit more wiggle room for mistakes you make on your warrior as opposed to a guardian. Assuming 30/25/0/0/15 war vs 10/30/0/5/25 guard, we’re talking ~8k more health for a war. Making a mistake with a guard will get you one-shot downed, so basically this is a L2P over time issue. Just keep at it and you’ll live longer.

Regarding group play, it’s about dungeon/trash/boss knowledge. Study what mechanics/tells bosses use, and how to best mitigate damage. Know what attacks are blockable, reflecatable/absorbable. Know when to pop stabilities. These things just come over time and practice.

TLDR. Guards are great at group mitigation, and you will be swapping skills between every fight if you want to maximize your group’s output.

To drive the point home to all the BHBs… Emanuel’s video has inspired me to do the following: volunteer myself in a no-skip, kill all things that yell “death… good” Arah video. My rig isn’t good enough to fraps, so I’ll be happy to provide colorful, in-game chat commentary (as well as lose my sanity in running the path). Note: no detonator usage or I’m out!

Wicked Rin.1972:

Can we get a real answer from a dev? So we don’t have to speculate random thoughts that leads to nothing.

Rule #1 when posting in dungeon sub forums, dev posts are like sasquatch sightings. Granted there was the one time where we all tried to create our own TAFU threads fill up the first page…

Seriously though, this topic is a month and change late to the party. Many did sufficient complaining in prior threads then, no dev responses to date then.

Rule #2 to the dungeon sub forums… there is no dungeon team to hear our cries.

azizul.8469:

a friend got it from a WvW rank chest….

Did not know this… still not enough to get me back into wvw

Did you happen to leave prematurely before you got your daily chest at the end (assuming that’s the trigger for story completion)? Have you tried opening CoF again, maybe by yourself? Were you trying to enter the dungeon that was already opened and it happened to be opened as story? If so then only the story option would appear.

clint.5681:

Black Box.9312:

clint.5681:

I still dont understand how running past monster is hard. Some people in TA/Arah make it seem like the hardest thing in the game from how much that fail at it.

It’s not necessarily that it’s difficult (well, not for EVERYONE at least) so much as it just takes away from the fun of the game. I’d have much more fun clearing dungeons as opposed to skipping honestly, and the only reason why I choose to skip them instead is the lack of reward or incentive for clearing making it nothing more than a time sink.

So why do people join my speedrun experienced only groups knowing that is going to be skip galore and yet they fail.. hard.

Im not telling these people to join my group and screw i up, if they need practice using WASD they can slide on over to Orr where there is plenty of mobs to run past.

They’re looking to be carried, lazy kittens.

You got that staff from an ascended weapon box, which can drop from temple/world event daily chests, and fractals 28+ dailies. I haven’t heard of the boxes dropping from dungeon/daily dungeon chests though.

Like someone mentioned, skipping has been around a long time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kcmKPmj9yeE

Last time I checked, you don’t stomp on piranha plants if you don’t have a star invincibility power up

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

ForGreatJustice.3452:

I leave the forums for a month, now you guys are letting idiots like the OP garner attention. The inmates need to take control again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAHwnaYrk0k

The better question is, how often was that oil reused?

jazzllanna.1278:

Hmm ok lol. I got worried with the insider trading post from earlier this week :P- has my thoughts going all conspiracy theory lol.. I thought maybe I should stock up for some reason yet to be see :P

Here’s a hint:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Xunlai_Electrum_Ingot
Read the “trivia” entry.

spoj.9672:

Or just kill all the oozes and skelks outside. They take like 2 seconds.

I’ve actually seen the glitch occur with PUGS that did no skipping/full clears of the skelk/ooze groups.

At any rate, no need to skip the champ skelk groups anymore If only they upgrade the oozes to champ status…

IIRC correctly, I think I saw the OP make one of the numerous “TAkitten(insert text implying ineptness)” threads a while back. So yeah…

sazberryftw.3809:

Quam.7218:

Before You fight the last boss she must “build” them (for me it’s like repairing old ones) she runs to the room aaaaaand do nothing, the next phase does not happen.

(Today same thing happened, we pulled a skelkt at her, she died, after ressing she un-bugged and started to build the cannons)

To avoid this bug, when you run into the cannon room, run to the left side, away from the cannons until all aggro is lost.

This, or just hang a sharp right into the other side of the space. Basically don’t just beeline into the center of the room.

Or they may be speculating on future jewelcrafting leveling to 500.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Any time there’s an update with changes to recipes/mechanics that affect existing goods, two things happen:

1. speculators step up to try to make money by purchasing bulk quantities before anyone realizes the current prices might be too low.
2. a small subset of people completely panic that they might be left out and start purchasing at any price they can. Some of these are worried about having enough for current needs (e.g someone trying to get their last 50 ecto to complete a legendary or other high-end item) and some are worried about being priced out in the future.

Prices shoot through the roof. And then, within a few weeks, the market returns to equilibrium. Often, especially with ectos, that equilibrium is lower than before the panic market.

tl;dr you cannot judge the long-term market for ectos based on what is happening this weekend.

Exactly, and this is again why I’m capitalizing on speculation and continuing to craft 1000s of rares to salvage until the update hits. I think people will see the silliness of their speculation then and start unloading when they realize that it won’t take that many ectos to hit 450 and 500.

Charak.9761:

Recipes only need ONE ectoplasm, and they are once-per day.

Some people jumped the ship too soon.

Absolutely. This is why I’m preying on them

Ok I Did It.2854:

I shouldn’t have to salvage 2500 rares to get a good rate of return, the sample size you did was an exception, no one in the game will hold on to 2500 rares before salvaging, it just doesn’t work that way, the ecto salvage has not been right since it was bugged last time,

I’m sorry, let me rephrase my post. In a span of 3-4 hours I crafted 2500 rares and salvaged them. I didn’t hold on to 2500 rares over the course of my gameplay waiting for opportunities such as what we have right now. Neither am I advocating people hold onto an enormous amount of rares just to salvage all at once (some do this I know). My point again is that you can’t judge a mechanic to be nerfed based on a small sample size.

And this “I shouldn’t have to salvage 2500 rares to get a good return…” comment of yours is unreasonable. RNG is RNG, hell I’ve gotten 30 ectos from only 12 savlages once (yes these statistical outliers can happen the other way too).

Just chalk it up to a bad bit of luck.

Watch the livestream (youtube it), you’ll see that celestial still exists and the new stats on the weapon at least.

Also, be grateful we’re all getting 300% built in magic find after the X number days to accumulate Luck. Anet is basically saying “hey go farm away anywhere in the world at any spot, we’re giving you a nice chance of getting loot for a change at minimal cost (time investment).”

TehPwnerer.7215:

rjnemer.7816:

Ecto was the main form of currency in gw1. It shouldnt be a surprise to anyone that ectos have a lot of worth. Its how it should be.

Yeah but the difference is there was a reliable way to farm ecto. Yesterday I salvaged 40 level 80 rares with black lion salvage kits and got less than 30 ecto. There was definitely a stealth nerf of ectos awarded from salvaging around the time of the champ loot bag update.

I don’t think there was a stealth nerf your sample size is too small.

I crafted and salvaged 2500 rares yesterday to sell ectos. Using mystic salvage kits (ty anet for the tons of MF stones), i was obtaining the generally accepted rate of 9 ectos to 10 rares salvaged (0.9 : 1).

Legendaries currently have up to 4 categories of effects (based on my observation):

1) Attack animation or movement animation on the weapon itself (i.e. Rodgort, Frostfang)
2) Sound effects
3) Footprints
4) Glow/aura

Right now, it seems that Anet is trying to make sure all legendaries are on par based on those 4 qualities (disregarding whether or not you agree with the asethetics). Look at the Dreamer, clearly a noticeable legendary after one update, now will get a glow and footsteps. Rodgort I believe has 3 of the 4 (not sure about the sound effects), so I wouldn’t lose hope yet of having Rodgort getting a polish eventually.

Hallelujah! We’ve not been abandoned!

Snoflake.9087:

Personal experience.

I have loaded a couple of thousand items (rare and exotic) into the forge in sets of 4 over the last year and gotten barely anything worth my time in return.

I decided to use the mass of mystic forge stones I got out of the achieve chests (as they were taking up precious bank space) and three rares in the toilet at a time.

My results were 3 precursors – Storm (Meteorlogicus), Rage (Frenzy) and Rodgort’s Flame (Rodgort) and a result of about 1 exotic for every 4 uses. And out of those exotics, more than half were named.

Fair enough that most of the named ones were rubbish skins that noone wants, but they were still named ones.

I don’t know, sounds like RNG being RNG?

ZudetGambeous.9573:

At least it shows enough skill that you completed 20 levels of fractals. You’d be surprised at how few people can actually do a fractal 20.

Wrong. So utterly wrong. There are people that have lvl 48 personal reward but were carried there. Lvl 20 is an total joke, and quite easy to be taken to that level from scratch in any group that has at least one person with the wherewithal to use a projectile reflect/absorb skill. Also, you can have 0 AR, be in a group that doesn’t mind rezzing your lazy butt that refuses to dodge, and progress. Why people put up with that, I don’t know.

Keep the weapons exclusive. I only have 4 weapons since Nov., and continue to do the lvl 48 with my group because it’s actually interesting and not a total faceroll.

Like Uriel said, I appreciate that you are asking for advice as opposed to the many others that kitten and complain about the path without seeking advice.

This is my tip in addition to what’s been posted (works for melee or ranged):

• Double-dodge the tree’s shake animation. That’s what spawns spiders. The green goo (eggs) that fly from him can be evaded and if your group can avoid that, guess what, no spiders to deal with.

This mechanic alone is what most pugs experience in failing. Even if we assume that everyone in a pug is wearing terrible non-zerk gear, horrible traiting/builds, and can only spam their auto 1 chain, if they can just use their dodge bind twice back-to-back on one very obvious tell, then the boss becomes a cake-walk.

Shpongle.6025:

It’s how Liadri should have been. It’s how she should be, when the gauntlet comes back.

I’m sorry, but no. First off, the gauntlet is already back, just go in since you already did the instance. Second, she’s fine as she is. My biggest problem was the lag from all the farming going on in the place. I did it again without the masses, and for me, it was easier than the first time.

No, her mechanics are fine. They’re punishing and forces you to learn and really know your classes capabilities. Let’s also be real, we ALL can’t be good at everything i.e. I personally suck at jumping puzzles.

My darling! I wish you could have been my sugar daddy for much longer, but you managed to help me accumulate close to 300g in 3 days. I can at least pay you a daily visit til my stack of tickets are depleted.

Here’s the thing with legendaries and precursors and any other long-term investment skins: ask yourself, how much do you WANT that skin? Is it going to be a skin that a few months or a year later you can be “ooooo I still love it, it’s sooooo pretty/cool/ridiculous”?

The answers to those self-reflection questions should dictate whether or not to make a legendary, regardless of what the future holds for new skins. Making a legendary based on your own uncertainty is probably not worth it. I’m still happy with my Sunrise, Moot, and Quip months after they’ve been made.

Lemaign.3529:

I’m also surprised at the number of people defending this path. Bosses like this are neither intuitive nor fun.

Do you not SEE the yellow-green globs raining from the sky? Does you instinct tell you to get hit by them instead of dodge them? I’m sorry, but if it’s inherent for a player to not avoid kitten from a boss, circle or no circle, cue or no cue, tell or no tell, then the problem is the player NOT the encounter.

I will concede that the encounter should reset upon wipe. But I will not agree with an overhaul of the encounter.

This was nice of you to do, but honestly, it’s currently not very efficient.

“30-50 minutes per run” hmm….

If the gold faucets dry up, then alright. But right now I could make in 1 hour with my thief farming Deadeye 4gambits 36g pure profit with constant back to back fights. That’s at least one bundle of five keys I can get from the gemstore. Maybe even two packs of 5, depending on whether or not the exchange rate holds around 4g for 100gems.

CuRtoKy.8576:

I doubt it’ll be used for crafting up to 500. I think it will be new materials that ArenaNet will introduced that are daily bound that will be used to progress to 500 on top of the existing T6 mats.

This. Anet so far has shown to consistently introduce new mats/tokens for new items, more so than utilize existing mats.

Dolan.3071:

Also the same pistol skin with different colours, I like it.
…. Though dual pistols is a trash weapon set to have in dungeons

But it’s aesthetically pleasing!

In addition to what’s been said, I would consider brushing up on the dungeon through vids on youtube. I haven’t looked, but there’s gotta be some clears of all 3 paths done by somebody.

Also /wiki Crucible of Eternity. It’s not entirely accurate with boss fight strategies (more like suggesting very safe but inefficient tactics), but it’ll at least give you a rough idea of what to expect.

Other way that’s faster to pay back your friend.

Go to the Queen’s Pavillion, farm away. You’ll get back more than the 2 gold you put in to craft to 400 in less than a few hours from the mats you get.

Crafting foods below lvl 60 I feel isn’t worth it. A lot of food below lvl 60 is junk, since lvl 60-70 foods, while inferior to lvl 80 foods, are still preferred in usage over lvl 80 due to mat costs. Maybe for those leveling their lowbies would buy and use them, but you’ll need to research and spend time to figure out which of those foods those are.

Since you’re only lvl 37, and don’t have the initial capital to invest in mats (assumption, since you needed the ~2gold to craft to 400), I recommend just go braindead farm the Pavillion.

Ectos did not increase by 10silver.

Ecto trend, according to http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/19721

August 11th: 18s 80c per highest buy order
August 18th: 22s 67c per highest buy order

Please don’t exaggerate.

But to answer your question, less rares from world bosses being salvaged would be my guess as to why ectos are jumping. People farming world bosses moved on to more lucrative farms, getting more cash.

TLDR:
More cash to spend + a supply that’s not keeping up = rising price.

I’ve gotten tags with my guardian pitiful staff 1 after hitting the champ only once, and I’ve missed out on tags when doing a 30k 100b on my warrior.

I think it’s based on party damage overall. Something about every party member in your group hitting a target reduces the threshold for getting kill credit.

Guard staff 1 is popular because of culling and they can spam 1 without cd and it’s an 180 degree 600 range aoe cleave.

Someone brought up a really good point in the “concerns of economy” thread in the BLTP sub forum. They said while this plus QG farming are injecting lots of gold, it mitigates the loss of CoF p1 farm. The same people farming 10+ hours a day are the same that were farming CoF p1.

John Smith also brings up the point (in same thread) that the median gold for players participating in the new content (not counting those that made < 1 gold in the time frame) was ~ 3gold.

My guess, the ones you see farming and complaining are mostly those that farmed CoF p1 asking for only 4 warriors/1mes parties, and they’re making roughly the same gold/hour farming the event including vendoring blues/greens but not counting rare/exotics.

Levetty.1279:

Fiorrello.8126:

i think a lot of people have some interesting ideas of about toughness.

let me put it plainly.

less then 2000 armor, don’t stub your toe or you might shatter
2000-2400 armor, pretty squishy
2400-2800 armor, chewy
2800-3200 armor, crunchy
3200-and beyond, just stacking toughness for fun.

How much do I have to stack to be itchy tasty?

Enough that you’ll hit like a wet noodle and never kill anything in your lifetime.

GW2 mob/boss mechanics are heavily weighted on one shot abilities that need to be dodged. So if that’s the case, better to wear full zerker and dodge the 1 shots. Toughness is a useless stat in PVE.

Guard: 0/30/0/30/10 scepter/focus (sigisl of perception/strength), full zerk with scholar runes
Food: hardened sharpening stone (5%/3% power from vit/tough)/butternut squash (+80 pre/8% crit dam). Yes I was cheap.
No. of attempts: on guard, 10 tries, overall ~25 between three characters.
Key Secret to Success: turned down all my gfx settings…

I could finally see the aoe circles and not get blinded. Followed pattern on floor that allowed me to only dodge to get away from her clones in p1 and in p2. P2 I just made sure I only moved enough around the room kiting so I can end up in safe areas without needing dodge. Saved dodges for sudden pulls by ball. Ranged kited, popped heal/utilities (Shelter, SYG, HTL, Retreat, Renewed Focus) when appropriate (PoV specced). I definitely had time to spare.

Tentonhammr.7849:

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

A necro in full Knights is about as tough as a full zerker guardian. Which is to say, you still really need to dodge everything and you might as well not kitten your DPS in the process.

^ This.

I tried all zerk + knights armor for kittens and giggles on my power necro, and the extra “survivability” was non-existent. Immediately salvaged it and went back to my zerk armor set. Technically yes, it’ll keep you up a few more times every now and then, but at the cost of crippling your DPS all the time.

Mossman at lvl 48 doesn’t give a kitten about your knights gear.

Mossman is usually busy trying to make me his Moss Wife

Well the word mobility is about “getting around”. Vol’s example is a specific example of farming efficiency, which guardian is hands down the most efficient of any class. It’s not about damage 100%, it’s about tagging and guardians do that better as others have already described.

When I run p2 Arah, I’m the one doing the solo kamikaze runs to open up WPs for my group. I definitely have an easier AND faster time on my warrior than on my guard, and this is of course me using proper utilities for the run phases.

The biggest difference to me is that fastest mobility is mostly focused on the weapons for a warrior, where on a guardian it’s a bit more diversified into utilities.

Here’s my solution for that particular Anchorage event:

1) get rid of destroying the two structures requirement for event success
2) instill a “risen morale” meter that after enough mobs have been killed, it will spawn the final champ. The amount of morale reduced could be based on the type of mob killed: a normal will take off a little bit, but killing a champ will take off 33% of the bar.
3) reduce # of champ spawns for that event, so farming for failure wouldn’t be enticing.

This way Anet’s new champ loot system stays, but the event won’t have such a ridiculous gold output.

With that said, they still need to nerf Deadeye farming even more.

That’s an interesting suggestion, that’s assuming gold is the biggest motivator for people doing content of any sort. This probably needs to be moved to the suggestion forum (or will be moved).

You’re more than 3 weeks late on the uptake:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Return-of-the-SOLO-Lupicus-dead-in-17-5-s

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

ForGreatJustice.3452:

Goose.5196:

Well, I will accept Rangers are good when they get rid of the dodge bug on the Sword auto-attack.

Turn off auto-attack. Develop timing with pressing #1. Press a direction key between #1 presses, then dodge, problem solved.

I don’t even play with autoattack turned off. I just got used to it being on.

I unfortunately can’t