Guild Wars 2

Sorry it’s more than appropriate. That’s the only defence mechanism we got.

I missed my F1 xD.

BEING ABLE TO STOW WHILE KNEELING.
If you stow while kneeling, you basically stand up again.

So you waste initiaves getting back into positions. bad.

Deadeye isn’t perfect, but I was pleasantly surprised this time. More so than Daredevil.

It’s hard to stop thinking like a thief, and focus more on sniping and support.
Let’s face it, this spec is all about positioning. If you are shooting from awkward positions, it’s half the job.

I hope the dev make the required changes to fix things, because other specs are also pretty amazing, except for Soulbeast.

enjoy!

TRUE LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1PnNq-Va14&feature=youtu.be

So final feedback is that I really like it. It brings about a whole different playstyle which really focuses on positioning.

There are flaws though…. (this order is not in priority)

1.Stolen skills are sometimes useless. I don’t want to trigger superspeed when i am kneeling.
2. Something has to be done about kneeling, it’s true that pressing a button to stand again can be cumbersome.
3. Malice needs to be flashier. The dark spots are too dim.
4. Malice should benefit other weapons, not just the rifle.
5. I understand that the Death Mark is a contract, so I also understand that the stolen skills disappear when a contract is terminated.. but … i mean can we keep it?
6. Auto Attack seems a little slow.
7. MALICE MUST BE IN SYNC WITH OTHER WEAPONS.
8. Malice should build fast but not add 15% extra damage per point. how about 7%
9 the Heal is terrible really. Maybe decrease the CD ?

It’s viability in sPvP is not sure. he can definitely +1, but cannot guard, nor decap. Which is expected.
WvW will be fun.

I really had fun with this class man. GG.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQBTSzEKdi9OhBZR5DgEoA0X4sNVA

Weapon , Rilfe
Utilities , shadow gust
elite, shadow meld

with the trickster trait i have a decent mobility and constant pressure along with some condi cleanse.
The reveal trat in DA, is not bad either.

Let me know what you think.

Miasmus.2364:

Acheron.4576:

Warrost.4895:

Acheron.4576:

just because you are offended, it doesn’t make you right.

Just because you are not offended, doesn’t make you right. What is the point of your argument?

My point is this post is nothing but a whine. You provide no examples, and no feedback other than that you assume they spent so little time on it. I would be more inclined to believe you if you provided examples of what makes you think that way, but you have literally provided nothing. It doesn’t even warrant its own thread.

I will write a feedback after beta weekend, but only if Anet willing to change some major things on Deadeye.

I would like to see a summary from Anet about beta weekend, what they learned, what will they change….

But since i believe, whole deadeye spec rushed and incomplete. I dont believe giving a detailed feedback is good idea, more likely a waste of time, because they might already have big changes/ideas before release (which might make feedbacks irrelevant) or they simply dont care…

So you don’t give feedback because you don’t like the spec then they can’t help you because you didn’t get feecback. So that you don’t like the spec, and you don’t give feedback….

Acheron.4576:

Warrost.4895:

Acheron.4576:

just because you are offended, it doesn’t make you right.

Just because you are not offended, doesn’t make you right. What is the point of your argument?

My point is this post is nothing but a whine. You provide no examples, and no feedback other than that you assume they spent so little time on it. I would be more inclined to believe you if you provided examples of what makes you think that way, but you have literally provided nothing. It doesn’t even warrant its own thread.

Amen.

-Deadeye’s Mark needs to be able to be activated without a target just like steal, so that it grants movements and other buffs.

- Rifle #4 doesn’t feel smooth enough, i cannot use it while i am moving, sometimes i port in place.

- The Malice points need to be more visible above the health bar. too dark.

Idk about you guys, but i am in love.
I was one those people before HoT that thief and rifle could never really mix. Boy was I wrong.

I just wanted to say thank you to the team. It actually feels fluid now. I really like the kneel mechanic to make it give a real mobility cost.
Thank you.

I will be sure to give my feedback in the appropriate thread.

I am always surprised to see such dedication in a video game. props to you guys for sure.

I am kind of hoping it will be viable against many players. Clearly not a DD 1v4, but I would satisfied if I can pull 1v3 1v2.
It seems to me, D/D will go well with the trait.

How about we wait until Friday?
Frankly I don’t agree with OPs. There needs to be some price, i am not surprised that the Deadeye is the least mobile of all thieves.

When you get +1500 range, then you don’t get to move and port where you want.
Let’s be fair.

Thank you devs.

I havne’t play for months, ever since I came back about 3-4 days ago. I feel like it’s much more balanced. I am kind of satisfied with the changes. Things are more fluid.

It’s christmas for me guys.

Signet of Agility gets the things it needed. The reduction in endurance regen is reseaonable. It’s more punishable. It makes managing your dodging quite important now.

I LIKE.

Down State is not really there to help you out. I mean your “down”, you are too wounded to do anything, and only most basic skills are your only resort to save your fleeling life.

If you are solo, and you are down, then you should be punished. It’s not there to help you ress each time you fall, let’s be reasonable here.

This skill saved my life countless times. It prevent Finishers from executing you.
Your teammates get an extra attempt to save your downed butt. Your ennemy needs to cast it again, at the cost of being downed themselves. It’s great.

PvE wise, you prevent aggro, again giving your teammate the opportunity to help you back on your feet.

It’s the best one of all professions in my opinion. Ranger gets a full heal, which should be nerf imo.

- Warrior, engis, guardians, revenants can’t do kitten;
- mesmer move and go stealth, but it messes up the revives. I think same for eles;
- Nero can’t do much.
- Rangers get twice the heal, as long as they fail to stomp.

Wassup people,

Here is another video of my roaming, most of them prior to the beginning of the Season 5.

Don’t hesitate to criticize my gameplay. I really read those to improve myself later on.If you see some improvements, let me know!

^^
It does feel longer. I have managed to do it twice however.

iF UC gets the 10 dmg boost, no one will use BD.
The added effects are fine as they are.

- Some Trickery traits should be baseline.
- Add Scorpion Wire as F3
- Headshot should cost 1 more initiative, I have been guilty of that.
- S/P needs some sort of tweaking, it’s off
- Reduce the CD of some teleporting utilities, they are really cool but nobody is using them because they aren’t SS, but their CD are just ridiculous what they offer.
- Decrease CD for Roll of Initiative
- Bring back Ricochet ?
- Withdraw : Its animation should depend on the direction the player is going. (you can withdraw forwards guys)
- There should be an internal CD for Impacting Disruption, but they should increase the damage. Like make it a real heart attack.

Hitman.5829:

I am starting to think that the developers main characters are thieves.

Is this guy for real? It’s the absolute opposite.

1. I kind of understand where you are coming from. Stealth on demand on every weapon is insanity. I do not want this game to turn into a “whoever gets reveals first dies” type of game.

They honestly should not have given so professions so much access to stealth, i am thinking about the Scrapper and its drone and the mesmer. Who basically out-stealth the thief in some cases.

2. More staff mobility..? no.

3.Also don’t agree.

It’s really the fault of the Dev (who I heard doesn’t even main Thief), but came with the Daredevil idea.

Players automatically choose the utility set that maximizes their damage/gameplay the most efficiently. I don’t think it is fair to create a new Elite and realize later how it can tweak for “abuse”.
It’s their fault for not realizing that.

I want to add one last thing:

I am willing to wait it out and see the next Elite specs, this will spice things up a bit. Some of us will remain Daredevils, some will switch to the next and grab a rifle. So gameplay experience will drastically change when that happens. So maybe we won’t even need to add stealth on every weapons like you suggested, or scrap signets.

They need to put the right devs for the job though. This is crucial.

I wish you didn’t speed up the gameplay that much, it seemed like fun, but it is difficult to pay attention when things go too rapidly.
Good job!

You steal most effecvitely by not missing lol.
and when interrupting.

Personally, I hate it. too much hiding and not enough speed. Hey if you enjoy it, shoot away cause it seems to work well.

I just noticed. I will take it off from now on.

I didn’t know I shook it that much … :/ sorry boss.

You do you OP, don’t listen to the haters.

Hey!
I truly appreciate your comments!

1. Honestly I think it depends, the one I hate using the most is that of the engineer, but Yeah I will.
2. You are right, i am having the hardest time doing exactly. What keybind do you use ? because so far I haven’t used one that make me confortable yet.
3. Not gonna argue with that. a
4. . I noticed the Impacting Disruption got in a way of my stealth twice.

Thanks man, taking notes!

Hello guys,

I have had lot of trouble uploading my vids. ( I had an entire S/D gameplay to show, but I can’t find the issue) So I had to redo everything.

I hope you enjoy, don’t hesitate to point out the problems, like usual.
Thank you for your time.

https://youtu.be/iyOaaqxGt3E

well what do you expect after popping all these CD before making a move. I personally hate those builds, but it’s working as intended.

Who agrees with me?

Especially Throw Gunk. (Stolen Item from engineers)

Straegen.2938:

Thieves send more QQ tells after losing more than any class I fight. For a while I thought it was because I simply run into more thieves roaming, but I started keeping track of the number of tells by class a few months ago. Thieves are nearly 10 times more likely to send a QQ tell than any other class.

Why do you think thieves top that list? Not complaining just curious.

Interesting side note, most of the QQ tells from thieves come from stealth stacking D/P gank builds. I have rarely gotten a tell from PP, SP, PD, etc.

It’s the absolute opposite for me. I get all the complaints, if I am not fast enough decapping.
Those who complain the most in Ranked are for me Engineers and Guardians who spend their lives in mid.

I am not a fan of those builds too, cause it’s too risky and I like power builds a lot more.
I just thought it was fun to share how evil that guy was haha.

babazhook.6805:

Since he appears to get a needle trap off the heal it trappers respite. Deadly daggers does nothing for this build.
.

Indeed. Surely not deadly daggers trait.

So I was being bored, and I stumbled on the most ebola build I have seen a long while:

I think this is the build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZUQJAoalsMh2mYzTw8JQPHHtEFfIuhgQHAdxC4Lj2IFB-T1RAQBrb/BQp+jBOBAlU53g0DAgHAQNVCCA-w

Hopefully the rightful owner shows up and explains to us what kind of kittenery this is.

I honestly don’t know if you are trolling, when you suggest Sb 5 to break stun, immo, and 2 seconds of stealth.

Choking gas is fine
sb 3 … 2 seconds of stealth.
Are you serious?

The Staff Thieves that I fight make sure I am constantly blinded with Staff #4.
They also Steal and perform Staff #2, so that i get weakended.
the AA hurts a lot, of you can root your target in place, try to pull this off.
Do some AA and disengage with #3.

And your dodge is your life man. Don’t dodge too much, use your Staff#3, and Vice Versa.
Dying is the norm in the beginning, no worries.

I am reading really nice things.

I like the concept of uncleanable conditions. It’s seems really powerful.

I would run: SA -Tr- Agent i guess.

I have two comments:

1. I do not think the name fits. It has very little to do with spying.
2. Instead of making hexes truly uncleanable, why not cause direct damage when they do get cleared or upon expiration?

See, people want to talk about condition cleansing. I want to talk about SoA in particular. Yes, Withdraw with Trickster is solid, SA trait is also good for that. So is Escapist’s A, we can keep going.

So it does clean Taunt and Fear ? … I just need to be fast enough. I ll take this advice.

I personally don’t think, that in general, Fear is more threatening than 4-7 stacks of burn. It’s arguable, but in general I would rather lose control of my char for 2 secs than be downed in 3-4 seconds.

I guess you guys make good points . but still not satisfied with the way it’s implemented.

I am ok praying for Improv to proc and refresh my ShadowS, it’s a risk I am willing to take.
But if something is guaranteed to cure one condition, it should be efficient and cure the most damaging condition.

.Want to explain to me SE PR and HIS?

I think this Last In First Out technique is kind of outdated… It shouldn’t be too hard to reprogram and repurpose the Signet to clear the Condi with the most stacks.
SoA is not intended to clear conditions. That’s obvious. It saved my life numerous times when SS was on CD.

Anyways, now that I know how it works, it is quite upsetting that despite how flawed the utility is, we are heavily dependent on it.

For those who aren’t familiar with it (it’s the Signet everybody is using nowadays, almost mandatory):
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Signet_of_Agility

Does anyone know how the condition clearing work?
Is there some sort of priority in clearing?

I used it numerous times, expecting it to clear the most threatening condi stack, (meaning the condition with the highest number on it) but it would clear something terrible completely absorb-able.

Example: You get hit pretty bad by a condi warrior, and now you have ebola.

1.you get 6 stacks of burn, 2 bleed, 1 vulnerability, 3 torments.
2. You use SoA
3. Bleeding is cured.
4. You are now left with 6 Stacks, 1 Vul, 3 Torments.

Please help/explain.

I also heard is clears Taunt? It doesn’t.

Headshot and Pulmonary Impact are two different things. I think it’s important that we do not mesh the two. One interrupts, the other causes damage 2 secs after successful interruption.
Not every D/P uses Pulmonary Impact, and some people like to use Pulmonary Impact with other weapon sets… anyways let me get to the point:

Frankly, think it’s fine. When I spam Headshot too often, I know I am going to get punished hard initiative wise. When I successfully rack up 3 Pulmonaries, then it’s my opponents fault for being too easy to read.

I think you should welcome the mindless spams, just like mindless blocks, or mindless dodges, etc. If it was not thought out, you should be punished.

I like it, and it allows us to dish out additional damages in WvW and PvP.

What are the teleports that actually bypass DH’s Test of Faith?
I know Shadowstep fails… but what else?

They should work on the notion of teleport..

Is it disappearing from A and reapearing to B?
OR
Is it going to A to B at an alarming speed ?

If it’s the first one, then ArenaNet should allows those utility skills to not cause damage.

A I I A S.8209:

Try this build:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQNAoaVn8lClOhFNBGOB8PhlWCzrMEpSRzlwW4MULAcAWAA-TpxBQBA4BAghDBgB3fgAHBgldCA8SZAA

You play it just like d/p but with condi. I find it extremely fun to play and drop people like flies because they don’t expect a condi burst so big..

That does actually looks like a fun build, but for the life of me, I can’t agree with ebola builds.
Right now I switched to S/D … It’s more “graceful”. S/D fights flow is beautiful to look at and the additional condi clear is reasonable. Access to Stealth isn’t that straightforward.

Well.. It is.. but you get my point.

It’s the same guy ? Since HoT’s launch? I remember getting temporary banned for raging so hard at him and the how the Daredevil was being brought up.

Why do I feel like, after playing just a few months, I have seen almost everything about the Thief at least PvP wise? D/P has been meta for quite a while some time now. That’s all I see to be honest, from time to times, I see staff Thieves (Min Scherzo style) coming, but that’s about it… oh yeah and ebola thieves.

I definitely don’t master the profession, but the monotony is starting to kill me. I wonder if others agree with me. I m gonna force myself to learn S/D for the sake of changing things around, but something is truly missing here, and I cannot point it out.

I think S/D is requires some level of skill. It’s graceful, and it doesn’t necessarily require stealth.. I have fought fairly skillful Staff/ SB.

The skill of thief, is definitely in his/her ability to predict moves properly.