Guild Wars 2

Good Post.
Reached Legendary with roughly a 80% win ratio using MediTrap

Marauders Amy + Travelers up to Mid Diamond.
Started GBow + GS

Mid Diamond and beyond, pressure was getting hot, I was being focused a lot more.
Marauders Amy stayed + Earth Runes
GBow + Hammer for the perma Protect and decent burst.

I’ve been doing pretty well as DPS guard. By no means am I a push over. Can usually hold any point against any opponent. Lately for the couple of weeks, been 90% wins… and really not in any “Organized” TeamPlay. Just some folks who know how to PvP on the friends list.

At the end, yes most do not expect me to be brutal on the dmg till way late into the match. :-)

I’m not sure if troll or….

Now from my experience, it would seem that they redid the D/D nerfs and made it completely viable.

I’m not only seeing good D/D Ele wrecking havoc but I’m seeing nothing but D/D ele and no other spec.

Problem here? I think the words “Balance” has just been thrown out there to ease our fears.

Thoughts?

#builddiversityoutthedoor #Gaurdiansarefine #CondiWars2

Amen +Holy Infinit

That is incorrect. Guardians are my only counter when its Zerker to Zerker(provided they are at my skill level) Condi Mes are a 2nd nightmare.

But I do enjoy my Zerker Thief.

Not easy being me, I tell you that.

Clone Wars 2 does need a update to the balance system. Just saying.

Clone Wars that are Mesmers is truly abit over the top. Conditions, Confusion and AI for days…. Lets take a real good look at this Anet. Some adjustments are needed here.

Well said OP. It’s been horrendous playing against full Condi Teams and Seeing Terror Necro’s and Spirit Rangers.

Condi’s need some srs looking into Anet. My gawd.

Noticed a slight delay with “Instant teleport” abilities as well. Something is up.

Some Elites are crap compared to other elites. I’d say the best elite is used by the Warrior. But it’s neither here nor there.

It kinda gives those classes with sub-par Elites to make the best out of it with this setup – At least it does for me.

Like a band-aid fix for the less Elite per sa?

Because people like YOU, waste so much tears trying to make or prove a point that has already been addressed.

The Gaming Community, THIS gaming community has enough tears to fill up the Atlantic Ocean.

There is a limit: Being constructive then having it addressed by the Devs and Being constructive and still QQ over the issue that already had been addressed/acknowledged.

Wish there was a ignore function on the forums. People like you waste so much time and space.

Suggestion Box:

Like giving all Asura’s a normalized standard size, like slightly smaller then a human for anything PvP related.

What plagued Aion was the characters that they created were created small, peasize small, intentionally to be dominate(cause you can’t attack what you can’t see dominate) in PvP and World PvP. It just bout made the game uninteresting after it was abused.

Why are you people beating a dead horse.

Jon Peters just chimed in on why they didn’t implement it in the first place and then stated his team would be making the appropriate changes in the future.

Stop trying to analyse and then having to try and give your “expert” opinion on the matter about the damage being done bye 1h and 2h weapons.

Topic of this thread has been answered. Thank you Jon.

galandor.1059:

Are people really putting Warriors above tier C?

It’s like trying out for the Varsity Football team. You didn’t give it your all- therefor you didn’t make the team.

When the class is played well using all its resources correctly they are now a force to be recon with. I believe that my experience and play style holds weight to the truth. Without stun breakers/stability, you are -F-ed. Guaranteed.

With that said. I’m sorry you didn’t make the team.

Been hitting up sPvP alot since patch.

Having to understand that not every player is PvP oriented. I’m judging from well played players of each class only to justify my ranking. This is how we know the limitations of each class and what can be achieved when played optimally.

(S Tier)
Necro - (When played right, They are a walking Nuclear Reactor -{Terror Build} and Deathshroud provides a nice defense bonus)

(A Tier)
Mesmers + (Clones, More clones, Blink, Shatter – to much AI damage)
Warriors = (Massive stun pool/snaresfordays/healthpool/healing abilities and almost instant abilities make them really kitten dangerous now, of course when controlled by a experience player)
Engi = (Grenade spamming/Conditions)
Guards = (Could use some more health/sitting “OK” but tittering between =/- in comparison to other classes)
Thieves = (Highly mobile/evasive – makes this class deadly but weak against the current meta)
Elementals = (Jack of all trades, pretty well rounded class with all the tools in its disposal against any foe really)
Rangers - (Most rangers run conditions/Spirit pets now while maintaining higher toughness then Plate classes and still be viable. Best down state in game)

Well played players can be very effective with warriors.

Give the Water works a break. In all honesty, many classes need some serious help.

L2play – Yes I Went there.

2 Skill:

Backstab with Heart <3

/truth

+1

/15charrrrrrrr

These posts who are complaining like a baby who lost their bottle.

My gawd people. Necro’s can be killed and so easily cc to death. Stop the bickering already… it’s obvious those who complain in this matter are NOT PvP orientated.

STICK WITH PVE. You’re Welcome.

I don’t see it changing any time soon. It will hurt PvE content to much. Mean time one can adjust.

My only suggestion to Anet is bring every class HP level up 15-20% in PvP.

To the previous post above me. You QQ and “14 year old” remarks is golden. Keep up the QQing… cause as we already know. It certainly is LIMITLESS.

Hi Paper….meet Scissors…
It basically boils down to: Know your class limits and know the enemy’s class limits. Reacting accordingly to counter the opponents. This method is the basics to ANY PvP scene. The reason for the out cry on Nero’s because they are no longer a free kill.(Sorry warriors, you still are)
Funny how the tides have shifted and everyone is crying Nerfs cause they have to actually work to kill a Necro.
Welcome to the PvP forums. Where the flowing of tears… is limitless.

Been playing quiet abit since patch day with some PvP. Cause we all know how Hot-Joins are serious buisness.

I’d like to just add and get some thoughts from others. In general, having 3 of the same classes in 1 team isn’t to much of a big deal… for the most part yes.

UNLESS there happens to be 3 Mesmers spamming illusions/unload on you causing so much havoc… it just doesn’t make sense.

Again, no other class brings so much distraught in a PvP scene. These illusions and there AI need some help. We just hit a balance patch and as many times Anet has touched the Mesmer class… it just feels broken and continues to be boarderline….dare I say…“OP” when stacked.

Thoughts?

Let’s not debate the pro’s and cons of each class. Keep it on Topic with a list you “believe” is accurate. Debate the class nerfs/buffs on the class forums please.

S –
None

A –
Mesmers +
Necros =
Elementals =
Engineer =
Guardian(lack of closers is hurting this class) -

B –
Rangers =
Thief +
Warrior -

C –
None

This patch has made some drastic changes. Mesmer(confusion builds) are now what haunts me… whaaaat?? Necromancers are now a force to be recon with. They diffidently need to be respected, their Condition burst is now intense a la HGH Engi. Warriors still suffer, unless they play Condition builds. So here you have it. My thoughts.

Necro’s Wreck kitten now. No questions about it. Their Conditions Spike and stability mechanics are intense.

I do fear that Necro’s are abit/really on top of the PvP Tree now. It’s just like… wow….

It’s funny. Rangers were on the same peddlestool as you necro’s are currently for months. Should go see how the rangers are fairing since patch had gone live :P

On other news, Necro’s are insane. If it’s not fears, its the insane condition damage output, snares, and everything else you happen to decide to use. My Gawd….

Gone are the days I could walk over your corpses…. time for some serious training. /brb

This post makes absolute perfect sense. I too was thinking about how wrong it was for Anet to divide Symbol Traits like they did. Makes no dang sense.

To add: Each weapon should be able to mark a symbol(coughswordcoughsepter)

+1 OP – Should really consider working for Anet and teach the Dev’s a thing or two.

I’ve tried multiple “Builds” as soon as i got the chance. Taking advantage of utilizing the changed traits today. ie. Spirit Weapon(hammer) builds, 1hd builds(Anet burned us by moving the Burn on block trait from Radiance btw), Zeal GS builds.

In Conclusion: It did nothing. We lose too much while going into the Zeal traits with little benefits. The biggest issue with this; is taking advantage of GS when 80% of the players are all Range and kiting you with chill, snares, roots etc. To much utility is lost running a Heavy GS build with no real way to catch up. With the heavy CD on chain pull and how easily it is to be dodge. It-Just-Isnt-Worth-it.

Cookie Cutter builds are still superior. Class is still in need of some serious build diversity.

This of course is speaking from a PvP frame of mind.

From a PvP stand point. I’m curious how this patch will evolve. I just hope Necro’s won’t become a kitten nightmare to deal with :P that’s all really.

As a whole. PvE came 2nd to what is known as WvW. Not everyone WvWs or PvEs or PvPs. You have a mixture of every type of player here.

When you think of spending time into a game, you feel like you deserve upgrades as you progress right? The biggest… and I mean biggest issue this game has is Gear and it’s stats. The level that gear progresses all through Ascended is a joke. Ascended for an example: Is suppose to be the BEST quality this game has to offer. When comparing it to an Exotic…. it’s almost like saying we just bumped the stats of it by +1. The level of commitment, time and energy towards that piece feels almost meaningless. Stats sheet really do show how meaningless of a stat difference Ascended gear really are. Like someone stated earlier, Legendarys – Cosmetic waste of time. No real bonus to dps. So much time is spent on acquiring mats. For a weapon that produces the same numbers as an Exotic worth 4 gold on the Trade Market. I’m flabbergasted!

Progression in this game, just doesn’t feel like it, maybe cause it doesn’t exist? It truly is a GRIND fest with every piece of equipment/gear. From PvE to PvP for only Cosmetic Purposes. If I plan to grind out gear, I want to better my toons and make running Dungeons or WvW or PvP easier. That is part of the reason why many people play… to become the best, not only by SKILL but by Gear Progession… right?

I understand why Anet decided to make gear mainly cosmetic instead of actually real Gear Progression. To keep the game simple and balanced. To eliminate extra time required by the devs to “RE-Balance” the game every so often due to Gear Inflation. To me… it’s just being lazy. If an MMO is expected to last, there has to be Progression. Cosmetics won’t take this game all the way. Not even 10 months and yet so many people have stopped playing. I only wonder why……?

This progression ideology plays for both PvE and PvP. PvP has it’s own faults, again progression and the whole dang GRIND fest for more, you guessed it, Cosmetic Gear. Seeing Ascended/Legendary Gear stats…. is really shameful and discouraging for those who really are attempting to stand out and upgrade their DPS.

End of the day, I don’t worry to much about PvE or WvW. I may do a few Dung. Runs… or hit WvW really fast. I don’t feel the need to “Progress” in this game because my gear is just as equal as the next guy who spent his entire time Playing PvE with my Exotic Made equipment.

On the bright side of things, the game is free. I’m not gonna go into the whole trade market Gems philosophy cause honestly.. Anet needs to make some sort of Income from the players and this is there way of doing it OP.

Oh yes: Champions need more incentive for engaging. Can you imagine how many guilds/players would want to hit World Bosses/Champions as soon as they spawn if the incentive was there? Give us NEED to attack them. Otherwise they will continue to roam the plains freely…looking bored >.<

PvP is my home front. I just hope this whole gear thing is fixed in some sort of way or fashion.

Chesire.9043:

It doesn’t destroy the builds. You’re over exaggerating. I mained Mesmer since beta. All it does is force you to actually think about your actions instead mindlessly spamming clones and phantasms on lower than normal CDs.

Besides that, listing all of those skills it affects and how much of an impact it had on Mesmer only solidifies that it deserves to be a grandmaster trait instead of a measly 5 point minor. You’re actually wanting sympathy? Really?

Preach on.

I don’t see what all the fuss is about. Mesmers in this game are just as broken of a class as Thieves are. Having to deal with Ai in abundance while you go blinking/stealthing away while waiting for sword CD is/WAS kittened.

the AI this class has and the spawn rate is rather Over-the-top. The damage output is Over-the-Top all while you blink and stay stealth.

How bout using some skill for a change? You guys were just as bad as Rangers who relied on their pets to do ALL of the work while they auto-attacked.

Build diversity is not a scary thing. Embrace it, be tactful with choice of talents now. The better players will move on while the QQers turn into dust. Evolution of a MMO…. adapt or die.

Getting no symphony from me, that’s for sure. Then again, I don’t have any issues with any spec you guys are… but I know most people do. See you next patch.

I’m surprised I couldn’t find anything on this topic.

Anyone annoyed by this function. Though knowing it’s purpose is too hinder hackers/gold farmers from selling rapidly. It’s a huge PITA for us regular consumers/sellers.

Currently trying to level crafting at a fast rate, but being greatly agitated with this Error code after selling 5 or so items consistently.

There a way around this, a possibility that maybe later this will be removed? What gives ANet?

Doopslayer.2304:

Legacy.7360:

You’re living a fantasy if you think the current state of Rangers was ok. After seeing the supposedly leaked Patch Notes, you go on a QQ spree.

This FOTM no skill class needed to be toned down.

If these Patch Notes are legit, we’ll ONLY continue to see skilled rangers continue to play and the kiddo’s running Mes or something.

Autoattacking/petcarryme builds are in for a treat.

Enjoy the backseat.

seeing as beastmaster builds have never been buffed since launch, you might just want to realize that a lot the people that moved to ranger from other classes are just fotm hoppers. Beastmastery hasnt changed, ranger has never been OP, other classes have been nerfed to our level, which means we have to be nerfed again!

FOTM Hoppers, I’ll take that. I’m merely speaking on behalf of the PvP community. Can be brain dead while your pet does all the work and they still are able to achieve Top Spot Positions.

We’ll be seeing more Necro/Warrior “Hoppers” come next week I’m sure.

You’re living a fantasy if you think the current state of Rangers was ok. After seeing the supposedly leaked Patch Notes, you go on a QQ spree.

This FOTM no skill class needed to be toned down.

If these Patch Notes are legit, we’ll ONLY continue to see skilled rangers continue to play and the kiddo’s running Mes or something.

Autoattacking/petcarryme builds are in for a treat.

Enjoy the backseat.

If these patch notes are legit.

I won’t be seeing so many “carry-me-pet Rangers” who 90% of you fakes spec into BM with “infinite” pet roaming capabilities and insane pet damage. Finally glad to see such changes taking effect.

You FOTM Rangers will be in my back pocket come the 26th. Not that you guys weren’t already, but this sealed it for sure.

/satisified

I bet you my pot of fools gold it’s real.

Let the QQ begi…

Wait it already has.

It’s been a good day.

I’ll be one satisfied Zerker Guardian if these notes hold true.

/nothingcanstopmenow

If this holds true, thieves are now killable targets who can’t spam “stun breakers” and boon hate any more. I do love it…

Judging from this list, there will be more to worry about now then thieves annoying teleportation/boon steal.

Juan Ignacio.8903:

Rerroll.9083:

Juan Ignacio.8903:

lol after 10months u still have some faith left

good post tought

One day i’ll manage to understand the reason you come to these forums every day to bash the game and say how dead it is.

becouse these forums are awsome, everyday i log in to post some dumb response, i see people that were praising this game now they just attack it and it really funny.
or anet small changes that change nothing! its hillarious.
i think i never said that the game is dead, i think i said many times that is just bad.

(Was) hit by a wall of grammar and spelling errors… really… hard… to… read. One or 2 mistakes happens… but kitten boi…

I totally agree with revisiting Class Traits. Keep things fresh, keeps the game feeling “new” and interesting. Coming back to the same Cookie cutter builds for all Classes cause the other traits are really useless in comparison shows lack of ingenuity and creativity Anet.

I hope for the sake of this game, when the big patch you supposedly will announce with Class balance and trait allocation/renewal. It isn’t bland and just focused on 2 classes.

Every Class and some weapon sets needs help/adjustments. Lets Keep this Game Fresh.

/Sign The Community

Yes, getting auto-balanced really doesn’t solve the problem. Most people just leave anyways, which will conclude to ANOTHER auto-balance. So how is this fixing the issue? IT doesn’t.

If chaos is created then so be it. the match will be over rather quickly and a new match with a balance will be created. Simple.

Let us not forget being auto-balanced multiple times in ONE match. Fix this already.

Remove Auto-balance, kthx

Yep, has happened to me 8 times today. must be a patch that’s causing this?

Such great input the 2 of you. I’m flabergasted.

No, autobalance is not needed. This is the only game where I’ve seen it done, it’s never for the benifit of the player. Sorry, I don’t agree with it.

Mean time, Anet will have to deal with players leaving. Problem still isn’t solved.

This idea of Auto-balancing is a morale ball buster.

When you and your team have gotten a good rhythm down, zerging nodes and the likes, people on the other side get discouraged and of course leave. Leaving someone from the other team to pick up. Doing so really busts your morale to do anything since you “worked so hard” on getting where you stand.

It’s not our duty to pick up for the other team, auto balance discourages it further.

I can care less about taking a win because of the Autobalance. I’m losing out on the Glory I could be acquiring from working as a team from the initial team. This is by no means fair. I’ve left games because I was Auto-balanced to the other side… its just so frustrating.

Now being Auto-balanced once is for one, frustrating… then to be auto-balanced twice in one game is just absurd. This needs some serious attention:

-Removing Auto-balance is on the wish list
-If this broken idea of Auto-balance needs to stay in play then have a cap, 1 auto-balance per game.

In case you all were wondering, yes I’ve just been auto-balanced twice. Hence why this thread and the frustration behind it.

Take the video for what it’s worth. A training tool. Don’t be a “tool” about it, honestly.. he’s giving the community some tips on how to typically avoid death at low health. Yes he was put down only because a 2nd person came through but rallied up right away.

Some people on these forums love to take things out of context for absolutely no reason.

To the OP: Kudos for putting this topic in light for those who lack the PvP common sense trait.

AI control pets all in general need some serious looking into. I agree with the OP. When the AI does all the work while u continuously dodge to create more AI… is a huge problem.

In general Phant Mes and any Mes for that fact that rely heavily on AI to do 80% of there damage needs to be a thing of the past. No other MMO I’ve played over the course of a decade allows this. If you want too make this game have a legitimately lasting PvP impression… this issues needs to be fixed.(and of course many other balancing issues, but this is a start in a right direction)

Just too reiterate what the OP said, 5-9k Dmg from a AI… is absurd Anet.

True there seems to be a lack of Guardians who play a decent DPS role. They are playing Mes/Rangers taking the easy road.

So when they see me coming, they think they have an easy fight… till I put my Bear Stomp through their chest.

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<3 Guardian

Geff.1930:

I disagree, it’s not an easy fix. It is a complicated fix. At least in my eyes.

Then you know little about this games true PvP mechanics. Even the Devs said themselves it can be as easy as tweaking 1 or 2 things, but they won’t. Each class deserves more attention therefor will be given a good “overall” of sorts.