Guild Wars 2

As a long time warrior roamer, I gotta ask why mobility is the thing people are complaining about. Honestly, Thief, Guardian, Mesmer and Druid can all hang onto a mobility spec Warrior just fine.

The problem with Warrior is the amount of base heal we get. The combo of AH, Signet and RR at their base values is huge. Anet needs to nerf the base heal while buffing the healing power coefficient.

Honestly Warrior suffers from the same issue allot of specs have since HoT relying on one or two super cheesy gimmicks, with them its OP (and running the anti power spec I run, its very OP right now) without them, or with even minor nerfs the class becomes worthless.

TLDR….HoT has been bad for ballence across the board…..

Link works for me!

Always nice to watch clips of Xara going full beast mode!

Just pointing out it looks like the OP is on TC, so everyone can pretty much ignore this thread as the usual TC care bear whine.

I think they had a GvG a LOOOOONG time ago when TW was on JQ and AHMA was on TC. As I recall AHMA thrashed TW, but that’s not particularly surprising, AHMA was reking everyone back then.

Honestly wait and see how this week goes, DB isn’t at T1 numbers, TC and YB should be much closer, fighting to actual T1 servers should bring BG’s numbers into line.

Alternately I’m wrong and BG will eat them both!

jamesdolla.3954:

lol leaping in and spinning on every engage. Seen some X Y X video or whatever the guild’s called do the same thing. must be the BG meta.

I don’t know about XvX. But your talking to Phat Seals, lower your expectations is the watchword…

No one is enjoying these….no one.

BG ate DBBL last night…totally avoiding hitting DB……..gg

DeceiverX.8361:

TC lost itself the day we got invaded by T1 guilds. When they leave (and they will) we’re down every guild from our core + the new forces and with a Tarnished (ha) reputation for being a bandwagon server.

This is precisely why allot of people worked their butts off last spring and summer to keep Mal minimized on TC. But no one else understood…..

Its true the fights have been pretty intense guys! We have been having to use much skill and tactix…is cray.

Well lets see, bunch of TC hardcore wvw guilds left when TC dropped and ended up on BG. The rest of hardcore TC wvw guilds left when Mal stacked TC, ended up on DB.

Just a guess here but there might be one or two people on BG and DB that want to hammer on TC.

Seems like pretty simple logic, if I want to farm the TC mouth breathers I barely tolerated when I was on TC….I’m not gonna go to DBBL…

dank.3680:

I had to watch 10 mins of your latest stream just to see. As suspected I found out your idea of “ton of fun” is a few 3v1 ganks and running halfway across the map at the mere sighting of any thing else.

Watching your own VOD all I saw was dead map save for 1 blob and a few soloers.

Also currently on MAG getting ready to go into prime EBG is queued and bls’ are boring ours is full green.

To be fair if you watch very much more than 10 minutes there are several relatively even fights.

The general rule of thumb I use is, if solo or with my guild no delay please come try to stream snipe us…at your own peril. If running with a zerg commander, I stick a 30 second delay on just for common courtesy.

But lets be honest, unless your Glad or Wilson you are very unlikely to ever have enough viewers that stream sniping is much of an issue. No one bloody watches GW2 streams anymore.

Shuursh we gots teh punesh the fools who dnt live in AMURCA!!!!

The whole thing is absolutely bloody ridiculous

Vermillion.4061:

6 condi mesmers

Yii best comp NA. Another good one would be 6 cleric druids, you will never die again!

Most will disagree with me, which is fine. Having players who are good without comp isn’t an easy thing to come by. But with the right players on classes they love to play, and are self sufficient on, ridged comp teams will loose 9 times out of 10. Like I said, those groups are few and far between, QQ (when they pay attention) pull it off nicely Opp did it at one point, FLOT was like that when we were at full strength back on TC and RIOT was (many many moons ago) pretty good at it as well. It requires a group that’s more solo roamers than group roamers. But with the right players in hand comps dissolve.

For example, with your comp the Necro is the key. Looking at the builds on your website, no one but the necro deals any really dangerous damage. The others in your comp are solid but the necro is the play maker, once hes gone the others can be kited around and killed off safely.

I understand why my point of view would be quite foreign to most people. But communication and knowing your team mates means much much more than what builds you each are running. As far as my guild has run in the past (anet trying to kill wvw has hurt our numbers) if you cant win most of your fights solo roaming with it….don’t try to bring it into our group.

Edit: Quite right Mist, very well said.

Don’t bother to much with one.

Seriously, you are far better off to each be very very good at a class you truly love playing, than you are trying to fit into some comp. The trouble with comps in small fights is, while they may make the first fight or two go very nicely, After a couple engagements your opponents will learn who you can’t do without. Once you find the key player to a small teams comp, its over. If everyone knows their build and class perfectly, then when someone goes down you don’t fall apart.

morrolan.9608:

Lurock Turoth.9085:

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DeWolfe.2174:

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Straegen.2938:

BG finally wins a week with the help of the strongest T8 server after months of losing and proceeds to declare victory. Good to know.

Lol is the word on YB really that BG is winning because of ET? I mean we like those guys, but come on lol.

Yes. ET saved BG. We all know that. But it’s better that they saved BG than YB who only knows how to do siege wars.

The plan right now is to let TC get to T1. This way it’s TC and YB in the same match with BG. That match, with that much siege, it just couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of people.

Muahahahaha….. MUAHAHAHAHAaaaaaaa…..!!!!!!!!!

Seen as your account is on Jade Quarrowcart, I´m sure you know how used we already are to dealing with siege.

Think you’re confusing JQ with YB or maybe TC

Have ye met CloudFly? cause kitten son….no one chucks AC’s for 5 people like CloudFly…

Cloudfly is solely a pugmander and hardly representative of the server as a whole.

I have seen the man run from late NA through to early EU many times. If you play vs JQ on a BL map, in any TZ but EU/NA prime, then you will have CloudFly chucking AC’s at you…

morrolan.9608:

DillyRoX.4790:

DeWolfe.2174:

littlemunster.1059:

BeepBoopBop.5403:

Straegen.2938:

BG finally wins a week with the help of the strongest T8 server after months of losing and proceeds to declare victory. Good to know.

Lol is the word on YB really that BG is winning because of ET? I mean we like those guys, but come on lol.

Yes. ET saved BG. We all know that. But it’s better that they saved BG than YB who only knows how to do siege wars.

The plan right now is to let TC get to T1. This way it’s TC and YB in the same match with BG. That match, with that much siege, it just couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of people.

Muahahahaha….. MUAHAHAHAHAaaaaaaa…..!!!!!!!!!

Seen as your account is on Jade Quarrowcart, I´m sure you know how used we already are to dealing with siege.

Think you’re confusing JQ with YB or maybe TC

Have ye met CloudFly? cause kitten son….no one chucks AC’s for 5 people like CloudFly…

Grim West.3194:

They should even out the populations, throw out Glicko and tiers. Rotate matchups to keep things interesting. They system they have now sucks.

Yea cause BG matched against Darkhaven sounds like a brilliant idea!

Anet need to not touch things for a while, let it even out.

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Lurock Turoth.9085:

“YB Dominated T1” Yeh lol when BG wasn’t PPTing, now look at you, getting whipped by frikin DB!

People like you who deny that YB became the #1 server without huge guilds who came and left constantly are denying a whole community of those who spent massive hours not ppt’ing, but taking properties, fighting overwhelming numbers and not sleeping for days.

BG is bigger, not better. Period. And like JQ before it, it too will implode eventually from its own weight and internal, ridiculous, politics.

DB has said from the beginning it wouldn’t stop until it is #1 – and it might well be its time with the imbalances we seen now. It’s just a matter of time.

1: I said nothing about how YB became a T1 server, but since you bring it up. YB would never have broken into T1 without Mal and his alliance, so yes YB didnt become a T1 server without big guilds. However you have stayed in T1 without him so….props I guess.

2: I have fought against BG for years, and even helped lead TC against BG for a while. Not once in my time would I have told you BG as a whole lacked for skill, the fact that you do, is just laughable and shows just how salty you are.

3: DB’s goal may have been to shoot for T1, but they aren’t a T1 server yet, so the fact that they are able to give as good as they get against YB is pretty sad. It shows that YB without the big guilds that pulled you up to T1 can’t compete with a T1 server in push mode. Especially not BG’s push mode, which has been legendary since S1.

In short learn to read, learn some server history and get rid of all that salt!

“YB Dominated T1” Yeh lol when BG wasn’t PPTing, now look at you, getting whipped by frikin DB!

NA T1 servers have WAY better coverage than EU servers as most OCX and Sea players get better ping on NA servers. So no you wouldn’t have 24/7 fights, you would have EU and NA fights with nothing else.

Warrior is quite strong roaming as you can prop up its still relatively weak sustain with runes and sigils that aren’t available in spvp. At my level of play (higher than average) I feel little to no fear fighting another power spec of any class 1v1, and I’m dangerous to some condi specs despite having next to no condi clear. However guildies who have tried my build have had much less success so how much Warrior is infact viable and how much is me having mained it for better than a year now I don’t know.

So yes warrior is viable for roaming, even good at it. But you need to be proficient at warrior and be using the right build.

My build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAR8enMdAdhglkCmhAEliltAD5vFACdvX2O7oVJGU6aBA-T1BEABap8LR1fi7iA0muBy3fYLlgA8EAIFgZCjA-w

My twitch page has quite a few highlights of that build in action, both pre and post adrenal health buff.

Balance is fine and will adjust its self over time, most of the leading servers are in the lead because of things that predate the merger.

BG is winning because BG only really comes out to play when it actually matters (something that might hurt us in this more volatile system) When BG does wake up they absolutely slaughter everything in their path. Its happened every season, in S2 it took the combined efforts (granted pretty dirty play) of two servers to stop them. They call it hybergate for a reason kids….

TC is winning cause right before the merger they got a big old T1 guild alliance. That alliance would be steam rolling T2 merger or no, they already did it for YB once.

And FA is winning because its a solid T2 server that got matched vs T3 servers. Sure they all got an influx of players but, the stronger server will still be stronger.

Give it a couple weeks to even out. And look at the bright side, while each match has 1 server that is clearly winning, no match has a server that is simple dominating the other 2.

Lol JQ QQ. BG has only done the same thing every single time something big happens to wvw. Pre season, BG is dead last for several weeks, season start BEASTGATE. Now its just happening cause there are actual people to kill in wvw.

For example, my guild has been 100% inactive in wvw for 2-3 months, now were running nightly raids again. We came to BG cause unlike TC, YB or JQ we knew that when the kitten hits the fan, BG is gonna come out swinging

But hey JQ has never had any shortage of delusional nincompoops.

There are tons of opportunitys for 1-5 man groups in T1. Vastly more now than there were a few weeks ago.

Sorry but if you can’t handle high pop roaming, and I say this as someone closing in on 2k wvw rank from roaming/havoc in sub 10 man groups ….

Get Good….it ain’t that hard….

With all the negative threads on here complaining, I wanted to be sure to post that I love the server merging. Seriously I have barely played at all for the last 4 months because of how badly you people (anet) have ruined wvw and class balance since HoT. At first I was quite vocal on here telling you how kittened I was at the stupid choices you make. More recently I just quit caring, I didn’t think anyone at anet would ever be able to excavate their heads from their rears long enough to make a decent choice for wvw.

However … merging servers has gone a very long way to bring me back! I can’t tell you how amazing it is to consistently find decent fights in BL’s even well into pst time. Sure their are queues but, I’m an old T1 player, I like queues cause at least they mean when I do get into wvw there will be plenty to fight. I would much rather wait 30 minutes and get guaranteed fights, than run around mostly empty BLs for 3 hours.

Now if you guys could stop wearing your pants on your heads when it comes to class balance I could fully re-kindle my love affair with GW2

(Seriously, stop giving thief better evade access, they don’t need more vigor, trust me)

Personally I would rather see Peak Performance give fury might and quickness, to make it more strong offensively. I personally would like to see less unblockable stuff in the game, not more.

I would the move the resistance to Last Blaze ( When you use a rage skill gain 3s of Resistance and set nearby foes on Fire for 3s) alternately Rage skills could remove two conditions on use.

There we go here is some official forum cancer…

I was by no means outraged, I was saying that hitting that hard vs an armored target is out of line in comparison to other high damage ability’s. My point in saying I have no blocks is that I have nothing to proc CR and I have been hit that hard when I’m the only target. I was not (as you seem to be trying to imply) saying it was op cause I cant block it. I have zero issue killing a hammer rev 1v1 1v2, my point and that of the entire thread is that its to easy for a rev to sit behind allys and ruin you.

Stepping to the side is a great idea and works much of the time, however there is this crazy debuff in the game called immobilize that makes you stand still! crazy right? when your imobed its really really easy to make coruin connect. That wouldn’t be a problem if it couldn’t take of two thirds (or more) of your hp in a single hit, but it can quite easily. And best of all you can do it every 2 seconds, meaning its really no issue if it misses cause he can just try again and again and again.

https://i.gyazo.com/626e84adcf17dd95c6f9a754e51f3dc1.png

GG no re

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFAUlcThatY5VwALw6FL3FF4CGhBQ4EGQZmYB9D5AA-TJRGABAcBAYuMgBPAA03fAA

Very solid power based FT engie build, works quite nicely in yoloQ. I’m not sure if you need the expac to use runes of leadership without the xpac but strength runes are just as good, and a bit better for dps.

Is there some way to break the heck out of that? cause while that’s the worst hit I got, I was taking 9-11k hits left and right and I don’t have any blocks on my engie build…

Being able to drop 10k aoe hits every 2 seconds is out of control. And before some kitten stain says “L2p scrub” yes I know the damage falls off big time when you close the gap, but in wvw when he has friends, going deep to get 1 rev will just get you rekt by his bros.

I’m not one of those people who immediately goes running for the forums to whine every time I loose a fight. But bloody hell hammer 2 is dumb, it hits way way to hard for the cool down and lack of ways to stop it.

Example:
https://i.gyazo.com/626e84adcf17dd95c6f9a754e51f3dc1.png

That hit is on my engie with 3200 armor…
I’m all for doing epic damage while in full zerk, I mained zerk necro for years and loved the big numbers. I also know that vs someone with allot of armor my damage is gonna go to kitten, an issue that rev hammer apparently doesn’t have. Not only does it do silly damage and seem to ignore armor, unlike other 1200 range skills that will ruin you given half a chance (Kill shot, Rapid Fire, Lich form and others) its not a projectile, so many of the ways of avoiding being rekt at range are useless.

I understand it has a bug that stops it on uneven ground which should be fixed (like scorpion wire lol) but good grief it needs some balancing. Either crank up the energy cost, increase the cool down, nerf the damage or do some of everything but please do something.

I don’t see how your idea would stop server stacking (an “issue” that I quite like, but I’m a dedicated T1 player) what is there to stop a single “Globe” from just buying up guilds and building up their forces the same way T1 servers always have, and boom their no different than they are today.

Next as someone who has been deeply involved with running and planning all time zones of a server, I’m here to tell you there aren’t enough OCX players to be able to make two ocx majority servers, NA will always outnumber them at this point in the games life cycle, and I’m not as sure but its most likely the same with SEA. If you can’t have at least two servers for just those TZ’s then they wont see any point, and they will distribute themselves across the top “Globes” for max fights. Those “Globes” will intern have vastly better OCX and SEA coverage and will then dominate the matchup, no mater the NA populations of other globes.

I’m very happy to see players trying to devise how to fix our game mode, but your fix doesn’t change enough to stop what globes becoming no different than servers (population wise) now I don’t see that as a bad thing, but I’m also one of those boogie men who likes the idea of just making 9 servers total.

Hey Snarl, I’m Angst Hex the FLOT warrior who has run around with you on FA over the last few weeks. We just moved to BG and I’ve been having a blast in late na to early ocx. Heres a vid my guildie made. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqTnrjDjnmo

This build is new to people? variations on this have been around for the better part of a year. Its gotten buffed several times but I’ve been using defender runes on warrior since March. I know Wilson has been running pretty much this exact build for quite a while.

And yes, its totally gimmicky, I have been maining a variation on this since the 23rd patch its a great spec, but its totally propped up by its runes. Take the defender runes away and its got real issues.

One tip I have is try swapping heightened focus for burst mastery and go top top top in berserker. headbutt, outrage, arc divider, 100b, arc divider with all the damage modifiers and quickness is a brutal combo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqg9n_Gz2cM

How easy DH’s are to beat on their own is not the issue. The problem is the amount of hate they can put down in a team fight. Power based traps were a bad idea…period.

I’m generally the first one to doubt the average skill level of a forum monkey, however the new meta has some pretty cancerous builds.

DH (bargain hunter) traps are just silly, the amount of damage they do even to targets with lots of armor is crazy. Yes you can pretty easily take down DH 1v1 if you play right. But this is team based pvp and 1v1s are not the norm, its shocking how fast a player who gets caught out by a DH can get dropped.

Tempest and Druid healing is insane, I have faced all healing teams on Stronghold that just man mode through both doors by healing door breakers so much that my entire five man team couldn’t kill one of the little buggers, much less any of the players.

Chronos ability to mitigate damage through stealth, blocks and distortion is pretty out of control. While chrono is no place near the level of dumb the previous classes are, its by no means balanced.

Reaper and Rev are on the strong side in 1v1s, however in group fights they seem fine. I do think both need some minor (VERY MINOR) nerfs, but its gotta be small, do to much and they will be worthless. And rev needs some major changes to Jalis and ipad.

Berserker and Dare Devil are both in a place that all the other elite specs should be, good but not omgwtfbbqamazballs. They are easily strong enough to make several new builds, but not so strong that you will never ever go without the elite again. That’s a good thing, it means players who didn’t buy hot don’t just get left in the dust.

TLDR: Yes you can absolutely beat the new specs if you learn how to fight them. However that does not mean they cant still be over powered.

Lol FA T1 push!?!? half the reason FA is winning PPT is cause we have people who are actually going into the BLs and flipping things. There are several guilds I know here who are barley phoning in wvw participation since HoT (my guild) cause YAY PVE AND TERRIBAD WVW CHANGES!!

No ones pushing for T1, that takes weeks of hard hard HARD push, don’t you remember what YB did to you T2 kiddies? does it seem even a little bit like FA is doing the same??……….no…..

The last few days I have been experiencing random immobilization of my character while in combat, without having the Immob condi on me. I’m not sure its related to the latency experiments but its ruddy annoying.

In its current iteration Revenant physically cannot beat any other class. Personally I find that pretty insulting, do you guys at anet have any pvp QA? cause its actually possible for a reasonably skilled player to loose to a ranger pet A BLOODY AI RANGER PET don’t believe me? watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtzdzhlH74M

I understand betas and testing, I have been a professional game QA tester for 5 years, I know where of I speak. Revenant is no place close to being ready to be tested on live. By releasing it into the live game Anet is saying its close.

So here’s how I would fix it to make it viable.

Damage currently Revenant damage is non existent, people are saying that’s okay because it lacks its damage trait line…but its not. I use absolutely no offensive traits on my zerker medi guard, my zerker stance warrior and my knights FT engie, and I do plenty of damage. You shouldn’t need traits to be able to deal good damage. Traits are bonus damage so you can go full bat kitten glass. I would fix Revenant damage by giving them a 25% increase to base damage across the board. That sounds like allot but one of the bigger hitting single skills I have seen on Rev is the charge on staff the best I have been able to get out of that skill is about 6k, a 25% increase would make that 7.5k, better but not crazy.

Heals Rev healing is terribad, without going HEAVILY into healing power there are very few extra heals that break 1300, that’s pitiful. Lets compare some traits across the classes.

Necros gets spiteful renewal which cures a condi and heals for 960ish when you strike a foe below 25% hp on a 5 second icd. Rev gets Steadfast Rejuvenation which has a 50% chance to heal for 389 on hit on a 4 second icd. And thats compairing a necro adept to a rev grand master.

Warrior gets Rousing Resilience which heals for 1k and gives 1k toughness when you stun break with no icd (bloody brilliant trait btw) Rev gets Equilibrium which deals damage 500 ish base if your over 50% energy, or heals for 389 if below 50% energy when you swap legends. While the rev trait has no icd because its on legend swap it has a 9 second cooldown.

I could go on, the Rev trait Replenishing despair is a particularly sad example. But as you can see rev heals fall very short when compared to similar traits on other classes. I think Rev needs most of its heals buffed by 25-50% Replenishing Despair needs about 250% buff.

Ventari The Ventari legends tablet mechanic is interesting, but in the end its just clunky. I would change it to just always hover around above or behind the player. Then make its individual skills ground targeted so the tablet flys away to execute the skill and then comes back to you. Then give it an actual 6 heal skill. And make the tablet just aoe pulse the heal from the spawnable fragments, seriously a 1k ish aoe heal is not a crazy thing, guardian can do that all day long.

Energy The Energy system is just broken for several reasons.

Weapon skills, they should either have no cooldown or have no energy cost (I would prefer no energy cost) but having cooldowns (equal to most guardian weapon skills) and an energy cost is like Thief weapon skills having both a cost and a cooldown. I would keep the CD and loose the cost, because its exceedingly annoying to be trying to fight, using your weapon skills only to realize that you can’t use any of your utility’s because you burnt all your energy on doing damage. So then you have to try and kite around waiting for energy to recharge. Thief has some of this issue to but there are three MAJOR differences, 1 Thief only spends its resource on weapon skills, leaving it free to use utility’s when it has no initiative, 2 Thief can stealth and wait for initiative to regen, rev can only kite…and pray, and 3 Thief actually gets traits that give it initiative back allowing it some level of control over its resource pool. Either take the cooldown off or take the cost off.

Next the costs and cast times on most of the utility skills do not reflect their effectiveness. I don’t have allot to say here, its just bad. Personally I would remove the energy cost from most of the utility’s (especially the heal skills) buff the heck out of up keep skills and make them the ONLY part of Rev. As part of that I would make the Mallyx elite an up keep skill. I personally think it would be interesting to make all elites upkeep skills, Mallyx pulls condis off ally’s and sends them to foes, Ventari pulls foes around to toward you, Jalis makes a field around the player that reduces damage and possibly pulses 1 stack of stab (like juggernaut on engie but aoe)

Over all I feel just swapping legends is more than enough class mechanic, I don’t like the way the energy “system” works and would be perfectly happy to see it go away entirely. I do feel Rev lacks variety and customization in its skills, I think it either needs two weapons or 3 legends.

Ausfer.1853:

TL;DR The ability to swap between 2 sets of utility skills does not make up for the incredibly limiting weapon options.

This 1000X

This is really sad, revenant is less dangerous than a single wvw camp guard. I literally just spent 30 minutes trashing every rev I 1v1’ed on pure zerker necro, without ever touching lich form or death shroud.

It has no damage, no sustain and no reason to exist. Seriously watch a revenant (any spec) try to duel a medi guard….it will make you cry.

Yea I wouldn’t count on any T2 server coming to T1, really ever….a T1 server would have to pretty much loose two entire time zones (or JQ just loose TW lol) and I don’t see that happening any time soon.

Keep trying to transfer to T1, all three servers have good EU (granted BG is lacking in that TZ) but it beats T2’s spotty (at best) coverage. Auto clickers can be your best friend for getting into T1.

Finally the T2 “community” is the largest congregation of whiners and chest thumpers I have ever seen. Pre season “Were gonna kill X T1 server (generally TC) were so good and their so weak we can’t wait to bag farm them” During and after season “OMG all T1 does is blob and spawn camp us on every map”

Alpha damage across the board seems a bit strong, the worst culprit of this is shatter Mesmer, but I have seen some Thieves and Warriors getting some pretty silly numbers in wvw (granted they seem okay in pvp)

Burn is just out of control, I think you could do a couple things to help this. One make the protection boon decrease incoming condi damage by 20-50%. And two just tone down burn damage across the board. Other condis post patch seem to be in a pretty good place though.

Rampage is a bit silly now, but it could be hard to nerf it without relegating it to being a never used skill. I think once Revenant comes out and is putting out party damage mitigation and extra aoe stab, it will balance out Rampage.

Nades…its a bug, fix it and Engie will be in a good place.

Sounds like you have poor Late NA-OCX coverage (Not surprising for non T1) while your opponent has some Late NA-OCX so they just PvD over you. My advice is either raise money and try to buy a Late NA or OCX guild (unlikely there aren’t many of them to be had) or go to T1 where everyone has some sort of coverage in all TZ’s.

In all honesty if you could bring 10-20 solid home BL defenders I would pay a good chunk of your transfer, especially if you play Late NA.

I’ve been using this allot in roaming and havoc. Very strong 1v1 or 1vX, poor escape but everything else is fantastic.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFAUlcThatY5VwALw6FL3FV4EGQZG4CGhBgYB9D5AA-T1BEABNt/AMq/olyPEuAAdoDAgHAggKBJFQ5isA-w

Extreme.8350:

so they will pick all the diamond raiders in eotm which never even killed a lvl 80 player

Hey everyone knows EOTM only guilds are by far the most skilled wvwers…..

PS that was sarcasm…

Calling Docgotgame a top WvW player…..that’s pretty rich lol.

I mean he seems like a nice guy, and hes a popular streamer but, top level WvW player….not so much.