Guild Wars 2

Saiyan.1704:

ellesee.8297:

BnS is just simply the better game! I encourage people here to join some veteran Guild Warts 2 players like me, Ostrich Eggs, and many more and play some fun, competitive PvP

No offense to Ostrich but he stopped being competitive the moment The Abjured kicked him off the team.

Please tell me again about all of these Ex-GW2 competitive players being top 100 in this other mmorpg, a game where Rank PvP is filled with these so-called Destroyer Bots.

There haven’t been destroyer bots in arena for years! Your information is very outdated my frand, much like everyone else that tries to put down the game!

And we are not top 100! We arent even gold rated yet! That would be crazy and awesome if we were! Still learning the game my frand!

Buran.3796:

ellesee.8297:

And you know what Blade and Soul has! Weekly tournaments! World championships! TV broadcasts! Just goes to show what a game can accomplish when you have devs who are worth a doot! The game mode helps too! What a surprise the arena game mode makes MMO PvP fun and competitive with the possibility of esportz! Who woulda thunk it! If only someone, or many someones, could have suggested it on these 4ums!

Ah well what’s past is past my frands! I hope you all have a great time playing Guild Warts 2. I’m sure it’s still a gr8 game.

haHAA

I oftenly check the numbers of GW2, ESO, BDO and Blade & Souls on Twitch.tv and all of then had pretty much the same crappy audience, at parsecs of distance from any remotely popular esport game (Counter, Overwatch, LoL, Dota…). Your little snowflake is as relevant and popular as GW2; is the same pulpy, undernourished dog with different collar…

Oh you are silly! Why would you say something that can be objectively proven false! It’s true, normal strims get only a little more views than Guild Warts! But we are talking about PvP! The tournaments in Blade and Soul attract way more numbers than the tournaments in Guild Warts! Wait, there are no tournaments in Guild Warts!

https://sullygnome.com/Game/Guild_Wars_2
https://sullygnome.com/Game/Blade_and_Soul

Look at that spike! 10000 viewers for a small weekly tournament! I wonder how many viewers the worlds tournament will have later this year!

Oh you silly bear. You’re thinking of BnS at launch when there was hardly any PvE! There’s tons now and all the dungeons, raids, open world stuff have healthy queues. I’m not even on the populated server group!

BnS is just simply the better game! I encourage people here to join some veteran Guild Warts 2 players like me, Ostrich Eggs, and many more and play some fun, competitive PvP complete with leaderboards, matchmaking, rating, competitive game mode, and everything else that the silly Guild Warts devs can’t get right/won’t put in!

You know what’s crazy my frands? Two weeks ago Blade and Soul released a super awesome patch! Unfortunately, among all the good things were some bad! Some classes became super overpowdered!

Today they released a patch fixing all the op classes and buffing things that weren’t so op! Two weeks! I’ve played this funny game for so long with their 6 month balance patches that I got used to it! Two weeks! Gosh I’m not used to being treated like such royalty! That just goes to show that if something is so obviously broken, it doesn’t take 6 months to patch (and then subsequently sucking big doodies at the patch and having it be broken for another 6 months)!

And you know what Blade and Soul has! Weekly tournaments! World championships! TV broadcasts! Just goes to show what a game can accomplish when you have devs who are worth a doot! The game mode helps too! What a surprise the arena game mode makes MMO PvP fun and competitive with the possibility of esportz! Who woulda thunk it! If only someone, or many someones, could have suggested it on these 4ums!

Ah well what’s past is past my frands! I hope you all have a great time playing Guild Warts 2. I’m sure it’s still a gr8 game.

haHAA

If the vast majority are solo queuers, then why the restrictions? You should be queued against other solo queuers the “vast majority” of the time no? I mostly solo queued in this game. In fact when solo queue and team queue existed at the same time, I mostly solo queued into team queue. But if my friends log on and wanted to queue with me, I’d like the option to play with my friends in a frickin team game.

Also literally every other team game has a team queue because it’s the only option that makes sense. CSGO, Overwatch, Dota2, Call of Doots, League of Legends, World of Warcraft, Battlefield… Every. Single. One. Restricting team play in a team game? You talk about players leaving, placing restrictions on the game, especially one that straight up destroys the social aspect of gaming, is the real killer. Placing bandaid restrictions on the issues of the game instead of healing the root of the problem is what led to the demise of the game in the first place. Class balance issues? Let’s just remove amulets instead of putting in any actual effort in balancing. Premade issues? Let’s just remove the possibility of playing with your friends instead of addressing the issue that is the godawful matchmaking system and league pip system. Good ideas guys!

“Premades can go into unranked to play!” This is the worst argument and the one morans used against arenas. “Oh you can just go into dueling servers and play 3v3!” It’s not the same if it isn’t official with no incentive to play. You want to feel like you’re being rewarded for your time. And since this is a team game, it would make more sense if the solo queuers were to just go to unranked right? If that were the case, PvP wouldn’t seem as much fun to you would it? So don’t suggest dumb things please.

Ideally you’d have a solo/duo queue and a team queue system like League of Legends. But League’s population goes into the millions and this game I’d wager barely reaches the thousands per region so that setup won’t work. If you had to choose between only having solo/duo queue vs the current setup, the current setup is the obvious answer. Players just need to stop coming up with scapegoats for their own failings but that’s what happens when the devs fail to promote growth and (surprise surprise) try to bandaid fix the population issue by getting PvE players into PvP, the players who have no desire to compete and only want to farm pips for achievement points and titles.

Seems silly for a team game not to have a team queue but I suppose when the poor decisions of the dev team drive many players away, there’s not enough left to support a multi queue system. How sad is it after 4 seasons in a game that came out 4 years ago, the PvP still seems like a beta? Like it’s gotten so bad they’re conducting a poll for the players to decide the direction the game goes lol. Well like Donald Trump says: what do you have to lose?

I caved and got overwatch. We play ok? I am esports Mcree.

*raises hand

haha JK Engineer is kitten terrrible. Much like the game. ResidentSleeper

Josh Davis.6015:

Hey folks,

Just a quick reminder: the PvP team is not responsible for profession balance. The PvP team, along with all of the other major feature teams, provides feedback to the skills team, but the PvP team itself is not directly involved in making balance changes.

What we do have control over – however – is the build panel (sigils, amulets, runes). It’s one of the knobs we can use to push gameplay in whichever direction we feel it needs to go for that particular season. For this release, we wanted to take support down a notch and increase the pace of combat.

It’s not our intent to completely remove professions from the meta – but things do fluctuate and I think we need to give the change a bit more time to see how it plays out. Elemental Bastion being bugged since Tuesday certainly has not helped the Tempest situation, but that should be resolved fairly soon and we’ll be able to properly see how ele will fare.

I know many of you fundamentally disagree with the removal of build items – and that’s fine. I understand where you’re coming from, but I hope you understand why we use this as a tool for balancing PvP specifically.

-Grouch

I thought announcing PvP/PvE skill splits would allow more freedom for the PvP team to balance PvP but it seems it wasn’t the case. Not surprising poopy devs.

Condi engi is still trash and will always be trash until we have a reliable method of applying condis while maintaining the same kind of defensive power that other classes have.

And so my HOPES are still useless so the game will remain uninstalled.

Also AED is still garbage. Not taking alchemy for pvp is suicide.

Uninstall the game Aeroxe.

Because it sucks even worse than conquest.

Why am I not surprised to see “players need to unite” in the description for a PvP map?

Hit legend in like 100 games playing mostly core power Engi/scrapper grenade Engi. A lot of games were played with absolutely the worst builds like shredder gyro condi Engi and power FT.

From my experience playing other games with ranking systems like CSGO and League of Legends, there are so many crybabies at the low tier divisions who believe themselves a higher rank than they actually are. Maybe the matchmaking wasn’t perfect, but let’s be honest here. If you are stuck in Ruby, you belong in Ruby. There is no shame in that. Practice the game, get better, and move on. I can’t tell you how many CSGO players I’ve met who have hundreds of matches and still in Silver 2, the second tier in the lowest division because CSGO doesn’t baby its players by withholding pip loss at the lower tiers, but tell me they belong in much higher tiers. Give me a break.

Build diversity is still awful. I feel like they gutted my class. My first love was condi Engi and I spent the first 2 and a half years playing it. I spent way too much time and money making HOPE and yet condi Engi is just godawful so I can’t even use it. I won’t be back for season 4.

Tell that to the dozens of posters here qqing about not being able to get out of emerald or sapphire.

This is something you should’ve thought about before you played over 400 games :p

Zelulose.8695:

I doubt Anet wants to sell kids and teens a game with gambling as a supported aspect of the game.

Violence? OK! Gambling? HELL NO!

I am hopeful for possible PvP skill versions in the future, but wary of things being Anet’d like they always have in the past.

Wasn’t the class stacking rule put into place because people were stacking classes? How can you say that the last thing people want to do is stack classes?

Oh there was a tournament? Congrats!

Watching someone stream GW2 PvP is watching someone AFK in the Heart of the Mists because the queue times are so bad.
Watching a tournament is watching a million particle effects masking everything while 2 people who aren’t particularly knowledgeable about the game shout in my ear.

Ellie.5913:

That’s the problem, I don’t see bunkers anymore ever or healers at least not on my team and if the other team has them they aren’t really that effective. I guess I’m just soo used to playing games where I get healed and stay alive long enough to kill something that maybe gw2 just will never be fun to me since it’s pretty much the opposite of that. Also, all the best tanky amulets and runes got removed so there really isn’t much tanyness anymore, and if they do try to go tanky they sacrifice ALL their damage so they aren’t that useful.

Yo are we playing the same game?

Gonna throw my vote into the yes category. Game still boring af and if those are the reasons for quitting then I wouldn’t come back. But should at least try it I guess.

Ardhiel.8531:

OriOri.8724:

Ewww no stronghold shouldn’t have a place in PvP. If we ever get a GvG mode then that would be perfect for stronghold, but not 5 person pvp teams

I dont get it. Stronghold is a PvP mode, just diffrent than Conquest. Why we should not have two modes (or more, like it was in GW1) of PvP? No one forces You to play it
GW2 community sometimes dont understand that PvP means something else than Conquest.

We should have more game modes, stronghold is just awful.

Well if PvP is ever balanced on 1v1’s, I’ll take that to heart.

Well we’ll agree to disagree then. I’ve had enormous success with power grenade builds and little to no success with condi. I think “huge disadvantage” is somewhat of an exaggeration. The damage is definitely comparable, the survivability questionable; I feel like that should be the gold standard in build balance. It goes back to what I’ve been saying across multiple threads. More offense should mean less defense. Instead we have classes like the Revenant who is hyper mobile, huge damage, loads of defensive cooldowns, CC, evasions, high armor high health etcetcetc… I’ll never understand.

But I digress, personally I think power grenade Engis would perform well if not for the billions of projectile hate in the meta. And even if projectile hate were to be nerfed I don’t think it would replace the Revenant as the primary physical damage dealer in pro leagues, but would absolutely be worthwhile in high tier queues for those of us who absolutely despise playing the, what I find to be extremely boring, meta hammer build and that’s why I don’t think it should be buffed further.

Holy that’s a lot of games.
Congrats on diamond!

I feel like these threads are made by people who try to 1v1 a Warrior on the point, get hit by Skull Grinder and die, then come to vent on the forums.

I suppose power grenadier will never be considered situationally meta because there will never be a situation in this meta where there isn’t some kind of rampant anti projectile spam. But to say it is a bad build overall is just false. You have good burst, good cleave, good cc, good mobility, good disengage, etc. If you buff it to suit this meta, it would need a whole lot of work and then eventually when all the anti projectile skills are toned down, the super beefed up build would be too strong and you’re just back to square one. This is what I was arguing against, the unnecessary power creep, the endless balance shifts.

However severely underpowered builds like condi Engi absolutely need to be worked on to promote build diversity. I don’t know how anyone could be against build diversity. The only one viable build per class feature that we’ve had for years is just tiresome.

I said it’s unnecessary power creep since a power grenade build is already pretty good in a vacuum. If we buff power grenade builds and the rampant projectile hate spam gets nerfed, now you have an overpowered build. That’s power creep we don’t need.

Condi Engi, on the other hand, is absolutely worthless. The Engineer has no viable weapons to make a condi build work. You’re essentially stuck pewpewing with the pistols and that’s not going to kill anything or if it does it will take an obscene amount of time. In teamfights you could probably burst someone down with Incendiary Ammo and the ideal 12 burn stacks, but there’s so much AoE condi cleanse being thrown around like Healing Turret, Fumigate, Ele shouts, Ele auras, Necro staff 4, Plague Signet, Leadership Runes, Revenant staff 4, etcetcetc. It’ll be cleansed before you know it and most of these skills can be used multiple times before IA even comes off cooldown. Condi Engis are just not good and haven’t been good since the trait lines were converted into specializations. They need buffs. Desperately.

I feel like the less traps you take, a stronger DH become you will.

Condi Engi damage in PvP is atrocious. And many raid groups don’t even want a condi Engi except on the first boss. What are you talking about?

Needs less Stronghold and more game modes people actually want to play.

Engineer burst builds are still good. It’s just the meta involves a lot of aoe protection spam and projectile hate so it’s not played. They don’t really need buffs. It’s power creep we don’t need.

What needs to be buffed is condi Engi. That build is just worthless. There’s no viable offensive tool for condi Engis atm except a gimmicky Flamethrower build where the only damaging ability it has is Incendiary Ammo, an ability that require multiple hits to reach full effect and is negated by any form of condi clear, all of which have a shorter cooldown than the whopping 50 seconds IA has.

Another issue that needs to be addressed is the heavy reliance on the Alchemy tree. It’s the only trait line that has any form of condition removal and any worthwhile ability the Engineer has that has condition removal on it is buffed by this line. There needs to be more condition removal on things other than Elixirs and Elixir gun.

Balance is meh. The meta is a bunch of hyper tanky builds that deal incredible damage and has pretty much always been this way for most classes. There’s never a sense of sacrificing defense to output higher damage or vice versa. It makes the game stale since mostly everyone has everything.

Build diversity is absolutely nonexistent. The elite specs are the reason for that. They add additional features to your character that make you far stronger than a simple boost to your abilities like the other trait lines offer. Thieves get an extra dodge, Elementalists can overload their attunements, Mesmers get Continuum Split, etcetc. And you get additional weapons and skills, some of which are far stronger than the original core ones and they are unusable if you don’t run the elite specialization, which doesn’t make any sense to me. The Guardian isn’t locked out of the greatsword if he chooses not to run the Zeal trait line. The Guardian isn’t locked out of Meditations if he chooses not to run Valor. That would be insane.

Furthermore, every single class is pigeonholed into a defensive or utility tree if they hope to perform well in PvP. Engineer with Alchemy, Elementalist with Water, Thief with Trickery, etc. That’s two trait lines that every class must pick in order to remain competitive. Clearly this is makes for little to no build diversity at all for any class and makes for a worse game overall.

What’s going to happen in the future with the next expansion? Will every class have their 3 trait lines already predetermined? Oh you’re a Thief so obviously you’re going to run Daredevil for the extra dodge bar and Dash, obviously you’re going to run Trickery for the extra initiative and a superpowered Steal, and obviously you’re going to run the new trait line which will probably give the class some crazy feature that’s specifically locked to that tree. Come on now.

The numbers are low because PvP is just not fun. With the lack of build diversity, the necessity of HoT, one super boring meta after the next, the long queue times, the poor matchmaking, the lack of other fun game modes, the only word I can describe it with is ugh.

Rewards aren’t even a huge deal. I know many people who have PvP’d since the start. If you remember, there were no rewards for playing PvP except things that you could get in PvE in less than half the time and with less than half the effort. But people played for fun and that’s the mentality we should get back to. Put the fun back into the game. Stop trying to entice PvE players into PvP. They don’t even want to play PvP. They just do it for the skins/titles/achievement points and all they do is complain about being stuck in sapphire and unable to get their rewards. Get PvPers to play this game; people who want to get better at their class and the game and be competitive and enrich the scene. I believe. Maybe.

^lol

Balancing Revenant: Nerf the hell out of Rolling Mists.

Use Pack Runes. Gives more swiftness for more sustain and increases swiftness duration for more sustain. Sustain sustain sustain that is the build.

Engineers are pigeonholed into Alchemy because it’s the only trait line that offers any kind of condition removal. It also beefs up the only worthwhile skills the Engineer has that has condition removal (Elixir Gun, Elixir C and other Elixirs, Mortar). So no the Alchemy line doesn’t need any more buffs, especially buffs that deal with condition management. Elixir S is annoying when it pops and you die to condis, but you conveniently forget the times where some Revenant jumps on you and would probably have one shot you if not for S.

So everyone that wields a GS as a melee weapon has some kind of movement skill on it. Guardian Leap of Faith, Ranger Swoop, Warrior Whirlwind and Rush, etc. The only class that doesn’t have one is the Necro. Since the Necro is one of the slowest classes and GS is one of if not the slowest weapon in the game, I think it would benefit from a movement ability. The Risen Necromancer class has a spectral dash attack that transfers conditions. I propose we add this to the Necromancer GS skillset replacing the useless drill attack.

Spectral Dash – 600 range – 18 second CD – ~800-900 damage with 2225 power
Dash to your foe dealing damage and transfers 2 conditions. If you have no conditions, gain 5% life force instead.

That is all friends. Thanks for reading.

Shorter cooldown stun break, Super Elixir will cure 2 condis instead of 1 with Alchemy, the stunbreak will cure a condi with Alchemy, blast finisher that also can disengage and does a lot of unblockable damage, team support, extra poison damage, extra sustain, etc etcetc

Favorite map Foefire… I’m sorry.

Upon release: LFR Stronghold of the Faithful. Must be experienced. Ping 250 insights.

I’ve been suggesting this for a while. It’s my dream skill.

Experimental Matter Relocator or whatever high tech name befitting the Engineer. Elite Gadget

Press your elite hotkey to place a teleportation pad at your location.
Press your elite hotkey again to dematerialize at your location and rematerialize at the warp pad.

• Breaks stun
• 1 second channel. Grants 1 Stability
• On successful rematerialization, teleportation pad detonates and stuns up to 5 targets for 2 sec in a 240 radius.
• TP pad can be destroyed. On death, pad stuns up to 5 targets for 2 sec in a 240 radius.
• 60 sec cooldown
• If Gadgeteer is active, removes channel time. Cooldown reduced to 45 seconds.

Toolbelt: Failed Experiment
It took many tries to perfect the EMR. Throw one of these failed teleportation pads to slow an area.

• 240 radius
• 4 pulses. Each pulse slows up to 5 targets for 1 second.
• 25 sec CD

Have VG, Gorseval, and Sabetha kill exp. Know how to do Sloth but never killed. I didn’t choose the pug life. The pug life chose me.

Also finished the berserker trait and got some magi gear so I have a PS warrior and tempest healer to add to what I can play.

Can also ping like 5000 insights np.

I mean any condition you throw on them they will throw it right back to you. All their condition transfers are instant cast so there’s really no counter play except to get lucky. I find run away is infinitely more useful advice than get lucky.

But if you’re not convinced and still want to take one on, you can try baiting out their instant cast transfers. Maybe load them up with conditions and then drop a Supply Crate to stun and then dodge immediately because the Necromancer will probably use Plague Signet immediately. But it will be such a struggle and for the sake of your teammates, just run away.

Also drop Elixir U for Elixir Gun. Elixir U is not that great. Elixir Gun will give a stunbreak and more condi removal and some more poison damage.

You are not going to beat a necro with a condition build, especially not a condition Engineer. My advice? Run away.

The entire Bomb Kit needs a rework. It’s currently a heavy conditions kit whereas the explosives traitline is entirely power based. I suggested in another thread it be converted to a power kit where Fire Bomb turns into a Lava Font-esque attack and the confusion on concussion bomb is replaced with a 1/4 or 1/2 second daze.

Chaith.8256:

Re: rifle, played it today. Seems extremely difficult to get anything done on Rifle with all the projectile hate, stability, and protection flying around.

Funny enough, most of that comes from the Engineer.

Been getting into raiding and everywhere I go I am told Engi is trash in raids. Pretty good in PvP/WvW and lesser PvE though.