Guild Wars 2

Well, there will be celestial ascended armor, wupwup is the celestial stat for it, and that’s coincidentally the armor preview code we’ve had for a while now. Your exotic celestial stuff will be fine; though, I would never give a character a second set of it, and some I wouldn’t even give a first.

Zaxares.5419:

Signet of the Ether sounds quite appealing for my Clones/Phantasms-based Mesmer, but I think it could be problematic if I need healing outside of combat. Will have to test and see if it’s better than Ether Feast

Arcane Brilliance sounds promising, especially since my Ele is traited for reduced Arcane skill-recharge, but the multi-condition cleanse of Ether Renewal is soooo useful… We’ll see, I guess.

Defiant Stance – kitten, ANet, you missed your opportunity to call this Healing Hands!

You are so right, too bad healing hands doesn’t sound like a stance.

Engi’s do kind of need it to scale. as for mesmers, the health of illusions/phantasms is fine, but in pvp it’s other factors that kind of make they on the weaker/harder to play side.

those skills sound feasible, I’m cautiously excited I guess.

And that is why I only do 47 instead of 41-46

Ethics.4519:

Lighter.5631:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Ethics.4519:

FenrirSlakt.3692:

Lighter.5631:

There’s no reason not to do it tbh.

It could cause issues on the already transmuted ones.

How?

It’s an entirely different piece now.

No, it’s not. Old Fractal weapons are still weapons and as such, they need a transmutation crystal to be fused with another weapon’s stat. There are thousands of old Fractal weapons in use these days. If you were to change the item type from Weapon to Skin, it is extremely likely that it will mess up every pre-patch Fractal weapon.
Remember that they don’t just become a new item while transmuted, otherwise things like the Transmutation Splitter would not be possible in their current state..

what, your post doesn’t make any sense.

Are you talking about the old unused ones or the old used ones.

If old used ones, again, it’s an entirely different item now.

If you’re talking about old unused ones, we should be allowed to take them to a merchant and get the new skin version. Exactly the same as they did with soulbound to account gathering tools.

This, I think they could do this, but I’m guessing they’d need a vendor for each item or something maybe.

The only fractals I have any issue with are snowblind, the molten facility, and dredge. Cliffside could use work, but it’s just kind of boring, though the arm seals not resetting fully on wipe is a huge pain too. Snowblind is just painfully boring, I’d take anything but dredge over it, the fractal is literally just 3 instances of waiting games, it’s awful. Dredge is at least a little more engaging but is painfully dull, switches need tanks more or less and the clown car is worse than ever. Molten facility is basically just the kd spam tunnel and it bugs out a lot. I think the urban, thaumanova, swamp, and aquatic are by far the best, they have their issues still too, but they do what they set out to do.

There were people selling arah p4 runs, and anet came right out and said it was fine as long as no one was forcibly removed from the run to sell the spots, so I’m sure selling a spot for fractals is fine.

Kaon.7192:

So Kiel supporters…
How does it feel to have supported the Scarlet fractal?

Pretty good actually because I can get past the fact that scarlet is there, it’s a good fractal, fun and neat. Maybe it’s just an adult thing to be able to get past 1 bad thing to see the rest, and to me, it’s good.

anyone who doesn’t like the new look will get a refund by contacting support, that much is confirmed already.

Carighan.6758:

Honestly there’s a very simple reason I voted Kiel, and it has nothing to do with who I liked more:
The amount of crazy “Omg omg omg Abaddon, GW1 iz liek best garme ev0r, vote Evon nubbs, kitten Kiel”-posts on the forums kitten ed me off.

GW1 wasn’t the rose-tinted version you now remember. Abaddon was a weak lore element. In fact, humans are – as always – a rather boring race in this MMO, and it’s predecessor suffered from being locked into them.

I didn’t dislike Evon.
I dislike you, the slobbering GW1 fanboi!

While I am a a gw1 fanboy, I’d like to correct you on a few things, all of nightfall was written poorly, except for the sulferous wastes portions of the game and palawa joko. Gw1 was great, but they used abaddon to fill a lot of plot elements they never really talked about. But still, EVEN IF they could do anything gw1 lore related well, it would be deserving of far more than a little fractal.

Soulstar.7812:

FateOmega.9601:

Kiel would have won regardless of which fractal is assign to whom or who provided which discount. Kiel won because she is human. Just look at the % of people who rolled humans and charrs.

Personally i voted against Evon because Evon is a businessman and (more of) a politician.

I voted for Evon for being businessman and being politician…

Slick and evil gets the job done… unlike Kiel who took credit for all the work the player did.

slick and evil works because of stupid people.

I voted for kiel because i knew the abaddon fractal would be subpar, but spiting evon supporters just turned out to be icing on the cake. I mean neither fractal was going to be much, but I like asura design and didn’t want to see gw1, something I hold in such high regard, to be used as a crutch and still suck.

I still can’t believe anyone would actually believe that the abaddon fractal would be any good, or contain any lore. It’d be a half hour thing where the sea turns into the desert after imprisoning him. I mean if anet want’s to make it, by all means, nothing is stopping them, but they have not proven that they can handle gw1 lore or events with care

Kain Francois.4328:

The worst part is that the Thaumanova Fractal will involve Scarlet in some way. Think about it.

Steam Creatures belong to Scarlet. What enemies is the reactor known for? Steam creatures.

Thanks a lot, Ellen supporters!

Steam creatures were made by the player character asura, in an alternate reality, the reactor blowing up is the believed manner for how they got into this reality. While Scarlet can summon them, they are not her creations.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

So as I brought up previously, the loss of the human gods lore Fractal is quite significant.

Why? Significant for who? What does it change for anybody to know more about this, other than personal satisfaction/curiosity? Even the “living” gods are no longer relevant in Tyria. They’re not active. They might as well not exist. So… what?

I as a player don’t care about the old gods.
My human characters are more invested in the things that happen right now. My asuran, charr, norn and sylvari characters don’t give a skritt about human gods either.

So I don’t know what your definition of “quite significant” is. Maybe you meant “interesting to me”? Which would be fair enough and a good enough reason for you to vote for whichever fractal you chose. But please don’t try to make other people feel like they did it “wrong”.

Well it’s safe to say that since you don’t care for any lore, it makes sense that you wouldn’t understand the importance of such a major event like the fall of a god.

I’ll leave you with this: Without the lore from the past, there would be no GW1, and thus no GW2. The Guild Wars universe is Story centric. Lore drives the events that take place. Without it, then the game becomes a “kill ten skritt” and win the game.

PS – The Six gods are part of the Eternal Alchemy (asura religion), more powerful than the Titans (charr past religion), greater than the Spirits of the Wild (norn religion), and more significant than the Dream (sylvari religion).

That is entirely opinionated, seeing as how we don’t actually fully understand how the mists work. and on another point, I highly doubt the gw2 team would handle such lore with care anyways.

Ngeluz. First. we never had a depiction of Menzies, so that top image is rather disturbing, as I think anet would actually use it. Second, it sounds like dragons are just hard counters to gods, with their magic draining. Third, and this one is completely hearsay, there are rumors we will eventually revisit the fight between menzies and balthazar. but really, i’m not looking forward to anet twisting or ignoring lore so i’m wary about when the gods come back.

Holion.5604:

my thoughts exactly, like the fractle patch, the soon the precursor scavenger hunt will devalue the prestige of legendary weapon, why should some lazy bum get what i earned by months on months of farmed with any effort less than what i put out

except the precursor hunt doesn’t actually hurt or bring down anyone who had already had a legendary.

CuRtoKy.8576:

A Massive Headache.1879

well both your arguements are flawed comparisons. if something is buffed you don’t get compensation, if something is being added you don’t get compensation. For pvp there were people abusing the fact that you could sync with people in solo queue, and it was flawed, and it was for a leaderboard already, it’s not like if you were a tiger you were pushed down to wolf.

Nobody expects compensation. But levels don’t matter in PvP it is meaningless besides getting new stuff from vendors and certain skins with a perma finisher. Fractals have much less. The number only represents difficulty and reward scale. So in this case they are similar.

How does lowering fractal level affect much? Say 60 to 30? Reward scale. Difficulty (although questionable). You keep every reward you had already if you gave that up I’d agree with everyone complaining. sPvP if today you lose your sPvP levels but kept your finisher. What do you lose? Skins you can acquire from vendors. The number really doesn’t mean much. Unlike say PvE Levels where they unlock skills. Big difference from level 50 PvE Warrior compared to level 80 PvE Warrior if reset ever happened. Locked skills, slots, items unable to be used. What I’m pointing out is these players are arguing something silly. Silly examples I used are to put what they are asking into perspective because of the “value” of the Fractal Level.

Well actually yeah, you have access to different rewards with higher rank in pvp. and as for fractals higher level fractals have more and better drops. I’m fairly sure they stated when making it the higher you go the drop tables have less empty spaces and even better drop tables, essentially better magic find.

CuRtoKy.8576:

Wethospu.6437:

Would their gear get removed? No.

Is the gear useful anymore? No
Are your previous fractal rewards (all items including fractal skins) being removed with reset? No

So your point is moot. The only thing changing is a number that for starters nobody knows except you and a select few that may because they run fractals with you. On top of that it only determines reward and difficulty scale. Which again deserves compensation why? Should I be compensated because I started to gain Wxp early but ArenaNet decided to double Wxp gain rates. Should I mail support right now to complain that instead of being at 350 WvW rank I should be 700 since I started early but missed out on increased Wxp gains that they later for everyone who apparently didn’t “work hard” . This is like a reset since my true WvW rank is 700 (if I started after the change) since it was easier to get wxp and I could spend the same amount of time previous for double the levels.

Should I write to ArenaNet complaining about PvP MMR reset? I worked really hard to get a good MMR so I will be matched with good players on my team to increase my W:L ratio to progress on the PvP Leaderboards. Now I’m stuck with people who are new or aren’t good should I complain and whine for compensation?

If the answer is no then why do some Fractal players feel they are entitled to some form of compensation when other players on other game modes (which again has significantly less rewards) do not get compensation for their changes that greatly affected them.

well both your arguements are flawed comparisons. if something is buffed you don’t get compensation, if something is being added you don’t get compensation. For pvp there were people abusing the fact that you could sync with people in solo queue, and it was flawed, and it was for a leaderboard already, it’s not like if you were a tiger you were pushed down to wolf.

phys.7689:

Trixie.7614:

Neilos Tyrhanos.5427:

NoxInfernus.2361:

All I’m reading here is sour grapes.
Please give it up already. Kiel won, end of story.
Everyone benefited from her election promises, not just the people that voted for her.

Asking for a recall?
What possible “legal” grounds could you justify it? (keeping in mind the nature of LA’s cut-throat politics).

Sour grapes in a cup of bitter tears.

We shall see whether people benefited when the Fractal comes out. The fractal was always the main point of contention, after all (as someone said, a single 10 minute CoF run would pay the entire WP bill for the period, after all).

If the Fractal releases, and the reactor was overloaded by Scarlet or something, then everybody will most definitely not have benefited.

Don’t be ignorrant. This is also true for the Evon fractal. You do realise the same team would have worked on it?
The fractal can also be this way: Scarlet would have created alliance with Abbadon and fail, thus resulting in Abbadon’s death.

i think that wouldnt make much sense. Why would a god ally with a turnip. Abbadon is the god of all that is known and unknown, scarlet cant play him, or offer him knowledge, he is the god of knowledge.

On the otherhand, thaumonova and scarlett make perfect sense, she is known to be affiliated with them, and probably in the same time range.

I hope they do more with abbadon, and get into him not just as the one dimensional villain, but as the god who sought to give man knowledge/power. He clashes with his brethren because he essentially believed in man more than they did.

Except, mankind were begging for it to be taken away as it was causing them nothing but trouble.

Stooperdale.3560:

Let’s suppose that 30+ players were told the fractal magitech was broken on high levels but new stable branches could be created from level 31. If you went down the branch at 31 your old rating would be wiped for the old path. If you didn’t enter a new fractal you would keep your old level however. Would anyone choose never to play fractals again and keep the old rating, or would everyone decide to play at 31?

Essentially is playing fractals important or is the number important?

Fractals are important but how good does it feel to have a couple of hundreds of hours of yours to turn out to be showles?

Nike.2631:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

Clearly my comment has caused some confusion and offense, which was not my intent. For that, I offer my apology and a more literal version of what I mean to say:

Every profession has aspects that make it different than the others. Sometimes those aspects can exclude a player from taking full advantage of certain bonuses from equipment. But that is not the reason those choices exist. The implementation of a signet-related rune is not an oversight, nor is it meant as a deliberate exclusion of the engineer profession. It is meant to be a new, interesting choice for players that want to use to signets and want to play professions that have them.

And I bet you feel just terrible that Necromancers are the only class in the game that can’t leverage the Rune of the Guardian. 7 out of 8 classes can – I mean, how DARE YOU!!! This habit of exploring interesting mechanics, of branching out to creative effect triggers, of creating something NEW… It will be the death of us all.

I know I lose sleep over it.

Constantly.

((Keep up the good work))

Well of power, when it removes burning, gives aegis so you could use the rune set. It’d be a poor choice of runes for nearly everyone except guardians and warriors, but you can in fact use it.

the urban fractal the mages are by far the most dangerous, as their aoe kills anything in 2 seconds, quite literally. However, I’m not suggesting warriors aren’t dangerous, as I often end up without endurance because of them.

again, evon didn’t save anyone from anything. he still took money from them, except instead of extortion, he opened shop.

And Rym, anyone who played and respected gw1 would never willingly allow gw2 to tarnish the lore.

They’re probably going remove the current skipping of the first two pressure plates at the dredge, probably going to do something about the clown car and bombs as well, I would assume.
I hope they change snowblind fractal so it’s not as painfully boring.

ThiBash.5634:

It’s the Super Adventure Box all over again.

It would have been enough to just add the new fractals…

…but no, Anet wants to do something ‘great’…adding leaderboards and new agony resist mechanics nobody asked for. And of course mistreating a group of players that are actually fractal fans in the process.

What’s wrong with just taking a good thing and expanding it? Why does it always have to ‘be improved’?

ArenaNet, we don’t want your junk. Just give us the new fractals and change nothing, and we’ll be much happier.

I don’t understand the comparison, as I only played tribulation mode. However, the instabilities sounds like it’d be a nice touch actually, only thing I’m unhappy with is the resetting, but then again, that’s not really my issue.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Fractals are a tiny fragment of history that we get to play out. Lore related to any Fractal has to be accurate.

I literally had this discussion not even a month ago so i’m going to be upset if I have it wrong again. That being said, the way it was again put to me is that they went back on that wording for the uncatagorized fractal

Smooth Penguin.5294:

A Massive Headache.1879:

Fafnir.5124:

Aerlen.5326:

Evon would have still reset your fractal level :p

don’t care to see epic battle of gods which literally vaporized and ocean into a desert would be worth it. In end we only get to see a nuclear explosion.

This was also only chance to actually see the 6 human gods of GW1

Well for starters, it was that event that caused it but how isn’t explain, it’s not likely that we would have seen it then turn to water. second it it doesn’t necessarily mean we would have seen the gods or even fought with them, all things considered it probably wouldn’t be any more exciting than the reactor.

The lore behind the fall of a god is much more important than the Inquest blowing up an experiment. The landscape of Tyria was forever changed in the god wars, and missing out on a chance to see just a tiny part of it is disheartening.

It wasn’t just about GW1 lore tying into GW2 lore. It’s part of the backstory of the overall GW universe.

I’m well aware of that; however, if you haven’t noticed, the game gw2 doesn’t really care about lore, and considering it’s a fractal, it doesn’t even have to be accurate, or rather, pertaining to the universe we play in.

heyoldguy.2578:

I feel sorry for the very few players that have “wasted” all their efforts on a design that has changed—I really do. But not for what they have lost, because what they have lost is imaginary; it’s in a game, yet it is still so upsetting for them to have lost it. Spending “several thousands in gems” to attain imaginary things is the only thing A-Net should consider compensating for—and only if the gems were obtained with actual cash. The rest of the problem can best be summed up by the signatures of lightning and Romo.

The thing is, it’s time spent, so people being frustrated by this set back is very valid.

Fafnir.5124:

Conncept.7638:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

Clearly my comment has caused some confusion and offense, which was not my intent. For that, I offer my apology and a more literal version of what I mean to say:

Every profession has aspects that make it different than the others. Sometimes those aspects can exclude a player from taking full advantage of certain bonuses from equipment. But that is not the reason those choices exist. The implementation of a signet-related rune is not an oversight, nor is it meant as a deliberate exclusion of the engineer profession. It is meant to be a new, interesting choice for players that want to use to signets and want to play professions that have them.

If such is true, how on earth was rune of perplexity ever allowed in to the game in any fashion? The mesmer has 2 trait lines with clear paths for a confusion build and a third for a few off-confusion traits. Yet these runes basically turns anyone who uses them into a better confusion-mesmer. What choice is there that matters in class builds when runes can be made that steal entire playstyles from existing classes and allow anyone to use them?

cant Mez trait illusions to cause stun?

Nothing can interupt, to proc runes of perplexity, as well as a thief with an offhand pistol at the moment. nothing.

Conncept.7638:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

Clearly my comment has caused some confusion and offense, which was not my intent. For that, I offer my apology and a more literal version of what I mean to say:

Every profession has aspects that make it different than the others. Sometimes those aspects can exclude a player from taking full advantage of certain bonuses from equipment. But that is not the reason those choices exist. The implementation of a signet-related rune is not an oversight, nor is it meant as a deliberate exclusion of the engineer profession. It is meant to be a new, interesting choice for players that want to use to signets and want to play professions that have them.

If such is true, how on earth was rune of perplexity ever allowed in to the game in any fashion? The mesmer has 2 trait lines with clear paths for a confusion build and a third for a few off-confusion traits. Yet these runes basically turns anyone who uses them into a better confusion-mesmer. What choice is there that matters in class builds when runes can be made that steal entire playstyles from existing classes and allow anyone to use them?

Let’s not forget runes of the sunless that were altogether useless for everyone. I think this is really part of a larger issue of rune concept and design not being what they had hoped.

Fafnir.5124:

Aerlen.5326:

Evon would have still reset your fractal level :p

don’t care to see epic battle of gods which literally vaporized and ocean into a desert would be worth it. In end we only get to see a nuclear explosion.

This was also only chance to actually see the 6 human gods of GW1

Well for starters, it was that event that caused it but how isn’t explain, it’s not likely that we would have seen it then turn to water. second it it doesn’t necessarily mean we would have seen the gods or even fought with them, all things considered it probably wouldn’t be any more exciting than the reactor.

As someone who used to be a hardcore gw1 player and fractal player, I voted for kiel, I started to vote for evon, but I quickly realized just what a slap in the face it would be to gw1 to have the abaddon fractal. Even at that point in time I was aware gw2 did not live up to the quality I had expected from gw1.

And on a side note, that story may depict him stopping a more violent extortion upon LA, but in reality he’s more than likely taken far more from them

in another reality sure, fractals of the mists aren’t a time machine.

I think this is actually a fair calling out that most of the runes in this game are junk, and this is the first rune set that excludes a single profession. It doesn’t help the devs response does kind of reflect a sort of apathy about that situation. I am aware they’ve stated they’re working on runes, but it’s still rather frustrating.

mas.7401:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

Shall we give Kits to all other professions so they can properly utilize Rune of the Engineer?

Anyone that picks up a stick ripped off an oakheart can.

Don’t forget rangers pigs

wait I missed something about the legendary. what’s going on with that?

Sounds like it’ll be incredibly useful for guardians regardless of cool down. Definitely getting this for my knights set of armor.

Underground takes so long mostly because of the clown car, which is a great comparison actually, but I love the is because of the bags. I just hate the ice elemental boss because of all it’s meat shields. Honestly my two most hated fractals are snowblind because it’s so dull and drags on It may be easy, but dear god help me stay awake through it. And the hammer, because there’s no loot and almost as boring as snowblind. fight boss, walk walk walk, kill stuff smack the hammer, repeat.

They said it’s unlikely but possible to see the fractal later. However, seeing the direction this game is going, I’d rather they didn’t try to ruin gw1 for me.

Yeah, after what they did to dungeon rewards I knew I wasn’t going to look forward to fractals update. The fractals sound nice, and rewards too, but this game is becoming FAR too alt unfriendly.

I will lose all respect for anyone in charge of anet story writing if scarlet can get the sons of svanir, the misogynists who would never take orders from a woman. I would say they wouldn’t listen to any thing non norn either, but hey, krait working with nonkrait happened, so, yay screw lore.

I’ve gotten Zojja and Mr. Sparkles but I didn’t think to screen cap any dialogue that went on. Now i feel bad. I wonder if we can compile the special things like that.

Uhh, thieves have more than enough stealth to get past mobs.

Mal.1670:

I’m loving it and you should be too ffs! Ugh why do I even bother coming onto the forums when there’s stupid qq and drivel everywhere lol, this update is pretty awesome if nothing else than that it’s original compared to the other stuff that’s been released recently. I thought the whole tower would be one giant instance, but it’s exactly like OP said, the meshing of open world and dungeon is really, really awesome. And it’s actually not totally facerollable content which is freaking fantastic, you actually have to engage your brain to make it to the top without getting a whole bunch of nasty things on ya.

Great work Arenanet ! People not enjoying themselves, heck I dunno, get the freaking antitoxin spray healing skill and l2p? Like for real guys it’s not that difficult lol

That is part of the problem, THERE IS NO DIFFICULTY. None. it’s not there, the closest it gets to being challenging is on the third floor if the portal is up and you can’t exactly do that alone.

I didn’t think there was a single good thing about this living story, it took everything bad from queens jubilee. There’s rewardless zerging to get to the top, cakewalk instances, I felt the cinematic was just pointless and dull yet still somehow cheesy. and everything that looks good is either in the cash shop or locked behind rng.

yeah… kormir needed our help. we gave it to her. we still couldn’t have become gods. I mean heck, I didn’t even like nightfall outside of the desert and I can tell you all this. as for trahearne, he spent his entire life dedicated to stopping the dragons or at least zhaitan, you not so much. of course he’s in charge and not the player character

Kormir didn’t steal anything from you, she was the one who was able to absorb abaddons power, not you.

You don’t pay attention to lore or story much, do you?