“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
@Ardid – Yes, “The Dog in the Manger” https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/external?l=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FThe_Dog_in_the_Manger perfectly symbolizes those who can jump well and who enjoy jumping not wanting more choices, so that people who can’t jump don’t have a fair chance.
Who here is asking for jumping to be taken out of the game, or even out of dailies? Just give us more choices.
@ Elden
Then I don’t see why are you arguing with me, Elden. Did I EVER say I dont want more choices? No, never. In fact, I haven’t read any JP supporter saying “please don’t add more choices” either. That seems what you spect us to do, but… we don’t.
On the other hand, the anti JP threads that began to appear with the JP Daily comeback are just that: anti JP. Hence the manger.
Anet really needs to re-examine this, take them out of the daily rotation and let them go back to being a sidebar in the game for those that like them.
Thanks for illustrating my point, Blude.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
(edited by Ardid.7203)
NPCs should have their dialogue words pooled and then randomly assembled when you talk to one. So for example you’d get “I pray by Ogden’s challenge, but the looking spirits have a right to rarely grow rich violence! I answer I’ve taken leave of my help. Greetings.”
That should keep things nice and fresh.
Somehow random wording dialogue feels creepy to me .
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Why the unrelenting pressure to do JPs?
The answer is easy.
“There isn’t any pressure to do JPs”.
Really, you don’t need to do JPs, ever, if you don’t want. No pressure.
Why is there an aparent effort to promote JPs?
The answer is twofold:
1- 3D game value: This is a 3D game. A real 3D game, not a 2D game with 3D graphics. A game where up and down are different, and where space matters. JP are simply the most pure form of recognizing this beautiful fact, and a place where the environment creators can really show off their skill and art. JPs are an amazing work of 3D design, gameplay and world building, which deserves to be known. (GW2 IS NOT GW1, or WOW, or any other 2D-ish MMO.)
2- Exploration vs Routine: Most JP aren’t directly visible or in the most trodden routes. This is because they are meant to reward exploration, so people who really invest time to walk all over the maps gets naturally to them. However, for most people after the first world completion, and for people who never explore in the first place, JP are too far and too unrewarding to bother. Putting them in the daily cycle brings them to view again, revealing a really fun and well done aspect of the game that some had forgotten, and other had never known. (Most times I lead newbies into a JP, they are really delighted with the discovery.)
Finally, to all the people who hate JPs and keep posting this hate-threads: There is an old story that explain far better than me your behavior.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Other people do not see how players like yourself find easier content exciting or fun.
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“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
I love jumping puzzles. They are a goal in themselves.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
At least add basic indicators of inclination to the roads, and somehow mark when a poi, hp or vista is inside a separate instance.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
PvP was never balanced in the first place…
While I don’t agree with Anet promising EliteSpecs to be equally powerful as CoreScpecs, just to later see an Elite Meta fest in PvP, I really don’t think that has anything to do with money invested, entitling rights or betraying the playerbase.
Anything new will be grossly unbalanced, because it is new. Elites could have been worse than Cores, but that would have been even harder for the developers. So they choose to use the more typical aprouch: allowing the players to discover the OP points on the Specs, then nerfing them progressively.
EVERY PVP GAME TRY TO DO THIS. I’m talking from a fighters player perspective: the new guy is always stronger, because of sales, because of fan spectatives, because of unexpected bugs and exploits, because of new strats, and because that way is easier to re-balance later.
My point is: a perfectly balanced expansion including big system changes is simply imposible to do. If you feel so salty about the “unfairness” that every single time arose from this, then buy the XP, or stop playing. If you are not so salty, just play and enjoy the game, and wait for the patches. That’s what I’m doing. As always, I choose to ignore metas and just play for fun.
If you feel like complaining, complain about Anet taking too much time for balancing, not about Anet asking a payment for their work, and specially not about other people enjoying things you don’t want to get.
Just to make things clear: I do have the expansion, I do play it and enjoy it, and I dont use meta builds for PvP. I still play the most with my old Core Engie.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
HoT is great fun for me. You only need to learn how to kill/avoid mobs, because they are not so easy as Core one. After that it is all about surprising foes and killing them oustide the view of their mates.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
I’m a Daredevil, but i tried Ele, Ranger and Engie with all similar issues, i played GW2 for a year and a half and just returned two weeks ago because i purchased Heart of Thorns in a sale at EB games…
I very much regret it now and am considering looking for more casual mmo over GW2, its no longer enjoyable.
Maybe find some friends to play with, use LFG, join a guild.
Problem is, there’s no game that has the same quality as Guild Wars 2. GW2 is pretty unique and plays and feels unique.
GW2
Unique
Pick one.
Are there more MMORPG games with fluid combat movement? or with Jumping Puzzles?…
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Never trust a Charr.
Never trust a salesman.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
OP, you think the problem people have with the avalanche of unworthy stuff is about gain. You are wrong. Its about hassle.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
In a living dynamic world I’m sure there should be repetitive labors to do. Also when something repeats itself enough, it becomes routine too: events that happen every 10 minutes aren’t that different from static quests.
I still don’t see how the “heart quests” are detrimental to the game. On the contrary, I think they add more life to it, by creating a contrasting landscape of familiar minor characters who live a less adventurous life than the protagonist.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
I’m sorry to be somewhat rude, but I really don’t see the problem here. Do the things in game that you enjoy. Don’t do the things you don’t. Why do you feel it’s necessary to remove something from the game that others enjoy?
Didn’t see that the OP wanted anything removed, just added to give more choice in PvE.
The thread is called World Boss Daily VS Jumping Puzzle Daily.
The title indicates the intent to compare and replace one of them, as it they were mutually exclusive.
So don’t do the jumping puzzle daily. Do a different daily achievement instead. There are lots. Problem solved.
Not enough PvE choice for those the despise PvP and WvW.
To have more choices is always good, I think we all agree on that point. That said, to despise things is also a choice, usually a bad one.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
If its roaming, you can just outrun any Necro. No need to lost time trying to down them.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
I still can’t use the Predator in my Reaper. They aren’t divided by weight, but that’s all. Not every prof can use every legendary.
While I don’t directly oppose being able to mix wheight armor skins, I think every step towards standarization of appereance between professions and characters is intrinsically nocive. The major culprits here are outfits, but wings and other similar items don’t help at all…
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Somehow I found myself yesterday using a scrapper with rifle, without alchemy but with boon sustain for might and juggernaut. I think is more a mental syndrome than a build, but it is fun for me.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Why are adventures needed to get masteries? Aren’t there enough mastery points outside of adventures?
(I ask this as a genuine question. I really don’t know about this)
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
“work together and organization” is a very accurate desctription of Hard, IMO.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Mothers day, I see.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
I think a set of static quest (aka hearts) is healthy for the game. A bunch of them are really really dumb, I agree, but I enjoyed them anyway. There is no reason why they couldn’t co-exist with the more serendipituous dynamic events.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Nowadays I run glass and celestial indistincly, but tend to take always a big selection of CC skills instead of only DPS effects. I’m not the faster of the crowd when killing things, but I find it way more fun.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
I tend to simply avoid the “do events” dailys. Too much stress without good reason. I pick another PvE daily or go into WvW for a while.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Death tends to be mysterious and opaque.
AMC presents
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
That’s the point of Opportunity Costs. To make building more interesting and part of the strategy. (That is also the problem with Rev: too limited choices)
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Allways preview the price of unknown things, specially if they seem to be rng dependant. You could have a barefeet skin that’s worth a thousand gold.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Why are you doing something that is the exact opposite of fun? Please be happy, do something else instead.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
I’m getting now the same people asking for “nerf HoT” are the ones that just don’t want to use any skill that is not pure DPS.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
I want a raptor pet that doesn’t forget her name. (She’s called “Smart Girl”)
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Its natural you don’t see Grenth window from the exterior. Death tends to be mysterious and opaque.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
To state that “world boss” should take the place of “jumping puzzle” in the daily rotation is a valid opinion, but it IS and attack on whoever like doing jumping puzzles.
I don’t understand why people see the existence of the JP daily as a reason to not having a boss daily.
In clearer words: if you want some type of content, ask for it to be added, DON’T ask for other content to be removed.
For me they could add boss daily, fashion daily, dancing daily, dive googles daily, hard-to-find city spot daily, naked daily, wathever. I don’t care. Just please don’t remove JPs from the rotation.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
People need to learn to separate subjective tastes from objective evaluation.
I don’t like it =/= It’s bad
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Also using up the 80 boost will allow you to use the shared slot it comes within, where you could put that copper-0-matic, making it directly useable for every one of your toons.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
2 more utility skills for each Legend. Intensive balance for a month. Rev fixed.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
I don’t see the point on making new thread on the same themes, when the old threads are still relevant or interesting. Keeping old info at hand keeps people from repeating themselves again and again…
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
+1.
Foes need to be more interesting, and corruption, boon striping builds should be useful in PvE.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Getting HoT will give you a 80 level booster you can use to test different Proffessions (Without Elite Specs, though). I think you should try all of them before choosing the one to master.You can also use PvP to try the Elite Specs if you want.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Reward for JP should, no doubt, be improved. But I still love doing them. After all, I play for fun, not for rewards.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Taimi is an extraordinary genius, an incredibly brave scholar, and obssesed investigator, and much, much more mature for her age than other progenie. She is NOT a common Asura. She is as a hero as our commander, but she doesn’t fight.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Why don’t just use… an Outfit? Why it has to be the Legendary armor?
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Something like “Are we there yet, mom?” Title?
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Tell me something, Zergs:
If you had a “travel item” with a fixed 33% speed, will you use still use any perma-swiftness build with that toon?
Or will you dump the perma-swiftness to be more effective in combat?
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
I’m really trying to like Pistols now. I thought I could make HOPE in the future. I even make a full set of viper armor with berserker’s runes to match with a condi build…
But they a re so plain.
Skill 1 is a shoot. 2 is a few shots. 3 is a shoot too. 4 is a shoot with fire. 4 is the only surprise: its ground targeted. Most animations are the same. Is terribly boring.
Hammer is so easy it becomes boring after a while, but at least it has some variety.
I’m trying to convince myself that learning the meta builds is good for my gameplay… but is hard not to simply switch back to my old, fun, subpar rifle.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
I think some people really need to read about the concept of Opportunity Cost.
Which in this case it is about Exploration vs Combat.
This game call it Perma Swiftness: the choice between a very useful off combat speed boost and a more powerful combat option.
Why do you think the game doesn’t simply offer direct 33% speed boost runes, and instead compels you to incorporate perma-swiftness in your build?
Because this game values Exploration, and give it a wheight through an oportunity cost balance when compared to pure Combat. THIS IS GOOD.
If they at any point introduce a fixed 33% speed boost that doesn’t affect your build, the whole Exploration aspect of it will simply dissapear. Any trait, skill or combination of them that gives you Perma-Swiftness will lose value, and pure Combat meta will bcome even more prevalent. Worst: this new fixed meta will require everyone to take that special boost (In this case, an item-linked, money-linked boost), or be automatically subpar. We already suffer of a lack of variety in builds. This will make it 10 times worst, and trivialize all the amazing Exploration aspect of the game.
That is why mounts, travel items or even runes can’t offer direct 33% speed. Because they dont wan’t you to get an unfair PtW advantage which you will use to skip travel and minmax combat.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
(edited by Ardid.7203)
I’m waiting for Obsidian Sanctum to be the daily JP. Just imagine it.
What a Beautiful Dream!
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
The filter is funny… but is extremely poorly tuned.
Also I still can freely insult people as long as I’m not too dumb when doing it.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
I only want my pets to remember their names.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Toys shouldnt give you any unfair advantage.
They shouldn’t give you disadvantages either.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
I’d rather have the first than the second, thank you. Helps keep things civil.
I don’t see how the second one can be avoided by kittens. I can actually insult anyone in the forums using the kind of words present in the Dilbert example, and the filter will not do anything against that.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
I don’t think the OP is asking for travel to be faster than they can normally go on foot, just that any swiftness boons continue to apply on the toys, and for the ability to renew them in the same way that they can on foot. Makes perfect sense to me. I’m surprised you can’t already do that.
If that is true, I’m surprised too. I really assumed toys didn’t interfere with your already active boons.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks