Guild Wars 2

kill 10 rats!!!

i do ffel like i get at least an item on a regular basis. Not that it is any better then the usual crap but i would say the chance is at 50% (it feels like it i have no evidence to support that statement)

Ruufio.1496:

I also didn’t eat any popcorn and I’m a wise kitten /p>

fixed

munkiman.3068:

Vol.5241:

I took the hit and bought the mystic binding agent for science. I was too greedy hoping for a quick buck in hoping that it would allow you to transform x lodestone into y lodestone. Turns out it’s a replacement to Elonian Wine (with another meaningless feature) and as such, I’m out 10 laurels.

Oh well, I’m just gonna collect them now.

Wow, i would have thought it was a guaranteed promotion to lodestones, not a converter. Can’t you take cores and promote them to lodestones using that?

It is more then a replacement.

here is a great tip for completing dodger task:

find yourself some earth elementals (Charr Starting zone). They cast that rocky line under your feed that ticks a cripple and stays there for like 4 seconds. wait till you got crippled – dodge – done.

use a ranged weapon pull 3 or 4 to dodge them all at once.

if you have problems with conection dodge along the line of effect – you definitly get the dodge

can be done in 2 minutes really

Shiren.9532:

I feel like dailies dictate when and where I play these days.

i assure you i read your whole post. your last sentence sums it up quite nicely.

you need help and/or distance from the game.

I understand your problem and i feel the same way from time to time. you need to realize that you can not have it all.

some people state that gw2 is a grindy game. and it is true for them and you who do not want to settle on one character. who want to maximize their potential.

for the causual player that sees legendaries and ascended gear as what they are it is not a grindy game.

we are talking about gear that is considered between exotic and legendary. Of course i want to have them but i made peace with it that only the most dedicated players or – even better – guilds are able to make these things happen. and still not in a matter of days or weeks.

the laurel system is great – yes if you do not play everyday it sucks – but the punishment for it is all in your head.

its Hard to give advice on a Build in your lvl Range. A Lot of stuff is just tough as ele in low levels. So here are some pointers on Utility skills

Solo Target Utilities
Signet of Fire: activate as an opener. Counts for almost all damage over Time.

Glyph of Storm:
Activate while in Earth for multiple blinds

Arcane Wave: Great damage and a blast finisher

how about wie all wait couple of more hours and See what will really be changed…

i might be wrong on this since it has been a while since i tested it…

my problem is that a lot of our stuff does not work with conjures…

for example with 25 points in air your crits never proc vulnerability nor do they apply sigils you mith have on your weapon(fixed that on engi).

as far as i tested piercing shards from water magic does not work either… so we ar missing out on a really nice combo where you conjure a weapon and stay in water magic for 20% more damage to vurneable foes. lightning hammer would become really good….

maybe they fixed this so it might be something you want to look at.

What are you looking at!
Shuddap!
Keep going!

i could be okay with a reduction of like 1 second on WOR. SOA is okay as it is since it does not reflect. anythin gelse would be really sad.

this really is a guardian subforum thread but the short answer is

yes and yes

… its never wrong to bring a guardian along

true – did not say anything diffrent. thats way this thread can remain and act like a warning to those fools (me included)

went in ther yesterday with a pug and we got our kitten handed to us multiple times in a row.

have to admit i brought the wrong build on my guardian.
still if anything this thread should be a warning to new players to bring their A-game when they are going into arah as well as full exotics. i had to learn the hard way and looked up some videos and advice and i will be prepared next time.

i still believe that two players without this knowledge and top gear can break an arah run which is just frustrating for everybody

believe it or not: not everyone moves at a pace where the only thing left is a legendary or the grind for ascended gear – even if he or she started with release

i personally like mace/focus on an AH build best.

0/15/30/20/5 works like a charm. i always trait large and mostly long duration symbols – for me they are class defining abilities. symbols make sure that you utilize abilities on crit as soon as they come of cooldown. worked a lot better before the vigor nerf but well… its still fine.

if your race can summon companions you can use them for more heal as well. like charr warband. or you might try fire elemental powder.

other than that you can only increase the boon output to get more out of AH. Mazers build is more effective for that since virtues also grant boons whne you put 5 points in that traitline so first suggestion would be 0/10/30/20/5.

10% speed will not help you with your problem. and i feel we got fairly enough gap closers(the best ingame actually) as well as long duration speed options.

you are right though. guardians have a general problem catching up to very mobile ranged classes if you stick to pure melee yourself

the fun part about htis thread is that warriors look at guardians with envy.
just follow their forums and you will find out that a lot would trade some (ofc not all) of their damage for the usefulness of a guardian.

…..

There’s just so many things. We get a petty burn every 5 auto-attacks, most of their attacks bleed every auto-attacks.

>> as only in sword + rifle (ignoring underwater) by the way warrors consider condition builds as useless as guardians since bleed is so easily cured (especially by guardians).

They have 8K more base hp than us, I heal for 8K with my strongest heal.

>> whats the connection here? We heal 50% of our HP every 30 seconds. They heal 25% tops. IT has been debated quite a while that the low hp pool of guardians ist not that much of an issue.
warriors cry for the lack of protection which we throw around like candy.

We got a “unique” health-regen, they can equip a signet for that.

>> which uses a trait slot and is 3 times less effective then our heal

They have a 3 second block on their shield, we get a 4 second “hey have a free walk into my blue dome”.

>> Oranges and Apples. The walk is not free.. it comes at the cost of having stability.

Oh and we can be invulnerable for 3 seconds and regen what would have been : A few seconds burn, a 2-3k heal, one block, while doing nothing. They can be invulnerable for 5 seconds AND STILL DO WHAT THEY WANT.

>> ignoring all aspects and benefits that come with the activation of virtues AND that all these benefits are FOR EVERYONE AROUND YOU!

you made clear that this is a rant… but i feel that you did not really think all this through. yes warriors do more damage… they need to because they do not last in long fights.

here is an idea… team up with a warrior. this game is a lot more fun if you do not try to make it a solo game.

Brangien.7462:

For the use of torch you’ll need the Zeal 10, II Fiery Wrath (10% more damage to burning foes) or its near useless to have.

this is not true…
however since fiery wrath is mendatory in 90% of guardian builds most people will never know

i know that this might not help at all…

if you have trouble with all lvl 13 guardian to beat simple mobs the problem is you.
if its just that you feel that the calss is boring.—- well thats you too but eeveryone is entitled to an opinion.

compared to mesmer or elementalis you should be able to mow your way through multiple mobs easily at lvl 13. in my opinion GS is close to OP in low levles compared to the named classes. sword shines against solos, mace is better against multiples and provides more defense. the only weapon that strongly benefits from traits is hammer imo. staff and scepter are kind of “meh” but i feel there is not one character where i love all the weapon and skills and i do not think it has to be that way.

i do agree though that it can be a little boring until you get to the “cooler” skillpoint abilities – which will make you even stronger.

guardian is one of the simpler classes that can be broken down to:

group spec: 0/0/30/30/0 with 10 points left to spec like you want to.
solo spec: 15/15/5/30/5 (or whatever you want this is my favorite sepc but there are a lot more options)

the group spec also works for solo play especially if you go against vets or you equip is not that great.

KensaiZen.3740:

Asmodal.6489:

not worth it

i do not understadn the concept anyway. a guardian is crazy good at avoiding hits. retal only works when you get hit. against single mobs its so easy to facetank and not even get hit once. fighting ultiples is not much harder since you take some damage at teh beginningbut when the trash mos start dieing you can spam VoJ for perma pbae blind (crazy ability actually … OP some might say)

ifyou do not go high in virtues i also find that retaliation on most mobs does not even trigger because of the slow swingspeed.

never felt the need to trait for it since that would require me to take hits.. which i dont

Thats if you spec for VoJ to be refreshed after each kill.

… and it would be crazy not to.

not worth it

i do not understadn the concept anyway. a guardian is crazy good at avoiding hits. retal only works when you get hit. against single mobs its so easy to facetank and not even get hit once. fighting ultiples is not much harder since you take some damage at teh beginningbut when the trash mos start dieing you can spam VoJ for perma pbae blind (crazy ability actually … OP some might say)

ifyou do not go high in virtues i also find that retaliation on most mobs does not even trigger because of the slow swingspeed.

never felt the need to trait for it since that would require me to take hits.. which i dont

^^ what he said…

yet, your first question is rahter stange.. if you want a dps build which is damage per second optimisation and crits increase your damage your question is kind of moot..

if you want something in between why care for what is important on a ps build.

luckily you chose the class that is the closest to optain both at the sam time.

well of course what silver said… but we are making wishes here right?

it is actually kindof hard to introduce new weapons and not totally mess up the balance once again. i imagine that anet might introduce them with the same mechanic as conjured weapons or engineer traits per se.

new weapons will also enlarge the loot table further which is already pretty packed imo

New 2h Weapon: The Crossbow

1: Standard Shot: Deal Damge to your foe, more damage the closer you are to the target
2: Brutal Pierce: Fire a high damage shot that pierces all target in a line causing cripple (projectile finisher)
3: Crossbow Slash: Whack you foe with you crossbow, dazing it
4: Hook Shot: Shoot your target and cripple them. Trigger again to bleed and immobelize your target.
5: Searing Bolts: fire three flaming bolts causing burn. 300% more damage against objects

pretty interesting to see that many people fed up with anet and guildwars2

to be honest I do not feel th same way at all. but thats mainly because i am not anywhere near to bother with dungeon grind for exotics or hitting lvl10 on fractals. ..farming mats for a legendary? I probably will never get there. hecl i am leveling a guardian right now… inspite of the fact that i already have on at lvl 80. (did not like the race )

you can play this game at any pace you want. feeling that oyu HAVE to do something is just some voice in your head.

still: the fractals lvl lfg thing is really stupid

i cant say if anet is on a path to self destruction – this thread seems like it though

so here is my wish for christmas

1-List the issue.

• Norn Model Animation for renewed Focus and Empower

2-Detail why it annoys you.

• Norn and humans the model does some stretching move (on top of that in heavy armor) that looks stupid. with the change that renewed focus can be cast on the move its even more stupid. It looks like a “duck and recover” rather then something that is essentially a gathering of power.

3-Short description of what you would like to be changed so its fixed.

• i do like the idea that race and gender have different animations ..but in this case the charr animation is just better for all of them (model stand up as straight as possible and holds the weapon infront of them) – USE THIS ONE for Norn. I think the asura do something else and players like it ..so do not touch that one.

Apraxas.3685:

Since we already have a pretty complete bug thread that doesn’t get updated much anymore due lack of bug fixes or new bugs, I decided to create this thread hoping to get the devs notice what we don’t like about our class or game mechanic that you would like to be changed.

The format I hope we can keep to let this post remain organized and interesting to read would be to:
1- List the issue.
2-Detail why it annoys you.
3-Short description of what you would like to be changed so its fixed.

Please remain polite and express yourself in a way that is easy for others and the devs to understand your concerns.

---

You have a lot of valid points. Yet you manage to waeken your opinion with a lot of generalism in terms of this is bad this is lackluster and this is not powerful enough, which seems to be the common way of compiling lists. Maybe it is okay since you try to put stuff down that “annoys” you but i find some of the things you described not annoying – they are down right broken. Other stuff is only annoying to you because you want more power which bassically will not get changed if you do not give valid reason or alternative/suggestion. Saying that all mace skills are useless is not really helpful – (I also strongly disagree – DO NOT TOUCH MY MACE!)

Essentially you have to choose what this list will be – bug list or wish list

since we have the bug list I think it should be the second…

how can you think that he misunderstood something???

anyways … This is shocking News. Great find.

>.<

i do not care for the BLC keys anymore, yet i feel i have to add somethin positive…

i got on the BLC train when halloween was announced… was disapointed of course when 50 keys gave me no halloween skin… yet i recieved like 40 lvl 80 transmutation stones… since the blc drop 5 at once pretty regularly .. in addition to all the other booster stuff. i also got like 30 insta repairs and 20 blc salavage kits which tunred out to have quite some value to me.

So if your argument is to save up for the transmutation stones, the keys might actually be a good deal.

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

10 points in Zeal gives you Fiery Wrath plus 100 power, which is an easy +13% damage for relatively little investment. It’s actually one of the best adept-tier traits we have.

thats not true.

it is +13% damage IF the target is burning. People always say its so easy to keep your target burning as a guardian – thats just not true. a constant burn that utilizes the 10% is only applied by VoJ and purging flame – purging flame beeing the best option since it is pbaoe and burns all targets around you.

the 1second burn we apply every 5th hit does not cut it. especially since it will only provide 13% damage on the next one or two hits depneding on your weapon speed.

fact is that the 13% is only true for single target fights. in pve you have to a lo more to utelize the 10% on all opponents.

sorry for spelling but i am too lazy for that

hmm i think you are on a interesting path. But is the retal damage worthwhile since 600 power would add like 45 damage?

but first things first.

going for retaliation as a source of damage i would argue that you should be very beefy and hard to kill. the 30 points in zeal does not help you at all with that.

the traits you choose are also not that great imo. if you want to hold on to that point distribution i would suggest dropping GS Power for shattered aegis. fiery wrath is essentially better vs. singel targets since the burn does not last that long and to use it efectively you neet to pull VoJ. but with shattered aegis all your retal damage is increased by 10% too which is great when you have multiples hitting on you in melee. it might make sense to invest a little twords condition duration.

I find protectors impact very situational and since you do not really go for zeals (larger&longer)why not drop 10 points there as well as the protectors impact for the shattered aegis.

along the lines of this:
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQJARWlYgiC33xKEf4ES+hVq6R8wP3DODCMjA;TYAKxMiJEzKmTMpYA

Thought behind it:
more aegis = more protection = more burn = more retal = more effective use of firey wrath

coming back to stacking power for more retaliation damage…

what your build tries to do is to do indirect damage. If they touch you they regret it. following this philosophy i find that tring to increas your burn damage might be an option to think about.

138 condition damage wil get you 10% on you burn damage which 33 damage and
138 power will give you 10 damage which is an effective 3% damage boost on a ALL Retal hits.

you have to note though that retal damage can occur multiple times and for a longer duration. so i think it could be good idea to find some sweetspot where you blance of power and condition damage…

IF you follow my idea on shattered aegis. (which you should test because this is all paper tatctics up until now)

if anything you should consider stacking toughness before power because a dead man does not retlaiate at all.

redknight.8036:

If you really think engaging a Guardian equipped with a rifle, dropping a wall of reflection, using Save Yourselves and Stand your Ground, clad in Heavy Armor is balanced, then more power to you.

Realize that this game isn’t about having every class being very good at everything. For something that each profession excels at, something must be taken away.

Though I like the Spirit Bow being a 1200 range summoned weapon idea. Spirit Weapons need a good buff overall.

listen to the redknight. its all been said.

i do not think that spirit weapons need a good buff… maybe a fix. iirc the timer resets when the weapon is destroyed -and that makes them not fun especially when you trait for them. I do not want to have them permanent up at least not all because that would be OP.

People hate the shield which i find extremely effective in WvWvW. Two guardians timing this ability an nullify ranged damage for a very long time… well different topic

I am having a blast with this build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQNAW5dlUgKD3FSHEg4ERWBWWzYfyD7hG94HB

its situational
its only WvWvW
others can do what you do a lot better
you are squishy
… and its still a lot of fun

the game is what you make of it

you guys have issues no game developer can fix

knock yourself out:

http://www.gw2armor.com/norn/male/heavy_list.php

first of all i think YOUR list is not very usefull. its a load of gimme gimme and i want to r0xx0r bad. If all the improvements you suggest are applied at once guardian would be OP. I am not saying that you suggest that but tweeking a class is not as simple as putting down a list and hope for some changes. the strongest points you have made are already discusse din various other posts.

Ganzo.5079:

i give you somthing to think

Zeal:
shattered aegis its strange trais, i like it, but we have only few aegis that i feel its useless, but maybe im wrong here.

Radiance:
inner fire why someone have to take a trait that give you fury if someone afflict you with burn? too casual to be useful.

Honor
wirth of persistance+writh of exaltation: maybe its time to create a only one grandmaster trait with these 2.

Virtues:
unschated contender: useless for me, aegis dont last longer in a fight a i dont need a +10% damage when im not fighting o.o
vengefulretaliation is a problem, so this trait is the mother of most of the problems… its not a bad trait for sure… but i think that can we exchange this with something more useful.

most of that stuf is just not true. i picked your post to show how the usefulness of every skill/trait can endlessly debated. In the end its what you make of these traits. not all lines are supposed to synergize well with every other. heck if i had 10 more trait points i could make tons of cool builds.

shattered aegis is a great trait. If you aim for a constant pbao burn its a must have. entering a fight you are able to apply 3 pbao burns with this trait if you want to. (one is already on you, retreat, + activating VoC) a build that tries to utalizes this trait would go for long duration burn making the 10% more damage on burning targets in the same traitline actually worthwhile in combo with Whirling wind. pepople always pick fiery wrath but it is actually only useful on singel targets. in pve where you fight multiples its a waste of points. aegis is very strong thats why you do not get it a 5th time… since it activates at 50% if you trait for it.

inner fire – its a wvwvw trait ..you get bruned constantly there. with AH this trait will work as a 30% damage reduction on a 1 second burn and gives you fury… – its all about perspective

unsceathed contender: great trait when trying a ranged build. scepter/focus + WoR and the 10% will affect your attacksa lot better then fiery wrath

vengeful: retaliation gets really usefull when you trait for boon duration. a simple 3sec retaliation can be pretty useless in pve. mobs swing slow and retal mostly only refelct one attack.

not trying to “diss” you just giving some perspective on what to make of some traits that seem not very usefull.

is that an assumption or did you recall that this questions was answered before?

Trait: Searing Flames

“When you apply burning to a foe, remove a boon. This effect can only trigger once every 20 seconds.”

Q: Does this CD apply to each foe seperatly or is it an overall cooldown even if you hit multiple foes.

This is hard to test and maybe a good chance for a dev to top bye these forums.

thx in advance

fingers crossed for no. 1

i felt pretty pissed when i opened my bag of gold to find 2s 90c in it… could have just called it “bag of change”

I stand corrected and in shame… still mad that though… maybe it goes away

i ried a lot to make staff a viable dps weapon but you have to give up too much and it is still not “great”. it really owns in pve events though

so the real question is why do we have a kittening trait that makes ONE!!! meditation instant that only has a castime of a 3/4 second…

i am not saying that anyone ever traited for focused mind. it was a rediculous trait before but now its just plain dumb. Pretty much proofs that this fix is lazy and not thought through…

hmm i like norna but for a female char…

Asmodarl Stronghold

Sharpe.1485:

Conditions are too easy to remove / have removed.

I’m water specced – as are most other pvp elementalists out there – and by simply taking 2 traits in that line you render every condition based class / spec out there useless, and that’s not even mentioning any condition removal skills.

Any decent player will get conditions off of them as soon as anything reaches threatning levels – and the other players that actually let conditions run their course… well, you can kill those with pure direct damage just as easily.

i disagree.

with the right choice of traits sigils and runes you can apply so many bleed per second that only a guardian purely skilled for condition removal can keep up.

scepter channels 9 stacks in 1 1/2 second. so basically your opponent has to start removing conditions quickly. the trick is to apply more then one condition and to do it constantly.

i am really having fun with my bleed ele. single handed applying 25 stacks of bleed in about 4-6secs on boss mobs is a lot of fun…

yesterday I tested a heavy bleed and signet-auramancer build with s/f.
I defnitly handed out more butt then I recieved although I was very squishy. (i Really do not nknow if this build is old news)

spec was 20/10/30/10/0 gear was heavy on bleed duration and condition damge as well as the weapons plus an additional bleed on crit sigil. pretty much stayed on earth as long as possible.

The fun thing about it was that it had a delayed burst feeling to it and that it caused your opponent to underestimate the rain of pain.

what i did was preload Attack 2 and stated then with attack 1 while unloading 2. Victim always ended up with at least 8 stacks of bleed and burning at which point i hit them with signet of water – applying also chill and 3 stacks vulrnability.

any attentive opponent realizing 4 conditons on them would now pull all the condtion removal they have and start raining pain on me. the ones who did not died miserably or started running away (which is not a good idea) tails because after the next round of 6 bleeds singet of fire adds more condition damage and pepole started panicing even more.

but lets go back to the decent player that anticipates whats happening. If they pull condi removal I hit them with sigil of earth and/or activated magnatic wave when they attacked from range while starting to fire autoattack again. magantic wave is short but also very subtle in its animation and people mostly do not realize it. (i had quite some lols with rifle warriors) thos reflects are alos guranteed to proc some bleeds or even a burn since you have fury up through you auras. i hit dust devil and start the kite by switching to lightning. – knock down, swirling wind another blind then of to fire for the next round of burn or water for more control. back to earth – rinse and repeat – you get the picture.

had a lot of fun and i will try to optimize it – just saying there are options besides dagger/dagger

disclaimer:

- this is WvWvW and spvp not tpvp
- it is only strong against 1on1 so you need to pic you fights or stay with the pac
- its not at all god mode – dieing is part of the learning curve
- it is very stong running as a pack and having someone call out targets
- mobility is key (Which is generally true for ele)

in addition – and i know thats probably not a relevant factor – but this build was the strongest on all the training opponents (professions and golems) in the mists i have ever tested.

might wanna check it out – thats the coolest thing about this game

sporting charzooka for giggles … all the range i need…

the event was great. yet it made me change my attitude twords the game.

i feel that arenanet does not seem to like their content very much or at least they prefer me to pay for a quick win rather then playing it. I had fun with the events and mini games and challenges. I did spend 70 buck on keys to get the skins. we all know the result but its okay i knew what i was getting into. i should have just traded the gems for gold and bought the skin i like.. neglegting all the content that had a chance to aquire it. Because why would i raid the mad king 25 times or spent ours in the dungeon?

i will septn again money for gems. and i will convert it into gold. it will eventually lead to shorten my presence in this game if arenanet wont pull our another carrot.

Shakki.3219:

It was one of the easiest and fastest Puzzles ingame…. i thought for once it would be harder :|

you silly troll….

seriously i gave up on that thing. Way to hard for me. just do not have the patience.

Thanks for the video! it saved me a couple of hours because i would have never made that.

grats to all that did it!