I think people are just upset because they bandwagoned to the wrong server.
All those people who were sad because they joined SoS cause SoS was winning at the time are now kitten that JQ is winning.
What’s worse is those who’ve been on SoS since the beginning are now stuck with these band wagoners. -.-
Bring back free transfers for a week plx so they can jump to JQueue and we’re good.
But all in all, wouldn’t mind if SoS was to take a break in tier 2 for a little bit. Let some one else deal with 24/7 JQ for a while. SoS has never been 24/7 coverage and likely never will.
Roll thief.
Lure a bunch of mobs to your position underwater.
Use shadow assault (spear 5).
Get dodge daily done in 10 seconds.
Profit.
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I’d rather just run a fractals/dungeon with people that have a competent gear set. Such as the correct amount of agony to survive and no magic find gear. Even that is apparently too much to ask for fractals/dungeons.
I’m getting tired of seeing these consumables used. It is obvious that Anet did not intend this.
I’d rather just fight you with the skills I am given instead of having to scavenger hunt all over Tyria for the flavour of the week consumable.
Guardian’s wall of reflection is amazing. Got some glass cannon thief shooting your pals to death with duel pistols? Not a problem.
There are thieves that actually use dual pistols in WvW?!
There are also buyable planks that are giving them free knock backs.
You did the date wrong :P
Date looks fine to me.
No reset incoming. So all bets are off now!
There are no “pros” to implementing this. You divide the community by allowing an elitist mentality to poison the well. How I choose to gear and spec works well for me… your opinion of my gear and spec is irrelevant … as long as i’m playing alone and not in a group.
i thought i was being funny.
You didn’t do a very good job at it. I play a mesmer, and the way I choose to play my mesmer may not be cookie cutter, but I have a balanced blend of d/c/s that works well both in a solo or group setting. I never have problems completing Fractals or dungeons and have respectable WvW stats as well. I don’t need a spreadsheet to be effective.
I could care less what spec you play. As long as you don’t have MF gear to leech on the efforts of others and have decent enough agony resistance to survive in fractals. That’s pretty much my two golden rules for grouping.
Of course. I can be an elitist at times and go off on pet peeves about how rangers should have healing spring and thieves should always bring shadow refuge. But that’s not ‘get out of my group’ kick worthy.
Well hell, just ask then! I don’t sport any MF gear (I don’t consider that a part of a balanced build personally) and I’ll be happy to link the agony resist. We don’t need an inspect system added that will ultimately cause griefing.
You really think the ones that are hiding it will tell you? There’s always asking people to link their gear, but they could always link another set easily.
Then you have people like this:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5510635#5510635
Who take advantage of others due to no inspect feature.
There are no “pros” to implementing this. You divide the community by allowing an elitist mentality to poison the well. How I choose to gear and spec works well for me… your opinion of my gear and spec is irrelevant … as long as i’m playing alone and not in a group.
i thought i was being funny.
You didn’t do a very good job at it. I play a mesmer, and the way I choose to play my mesmer may not be cookie cutter, but I have a balanced blend of d/c/s that works well both in a solo or group setting. I never have problems completing Fractals or dungeons and have respectable WvW stats as well. I don’t need a spreadsheet to be effective.
I could care less what spec you play. As long as you don’t have MF gear to leech on the efforts of others and have decent enough agony resistance to survive in fractals. That’s pretty much my two golden rules for grouping.
Of course. I can be an elitist at times and go off on pet peeves about how rangers should have healing spring and thieves should always bring shadow refuge. But that’s not ‘get out of my group’ kick worthy.
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Wow. As soon as there was no reset mentioned. SoS came back with a vengeance. Too bad it’s too little, too late for this week’s match up.
Or maybe JQ knows they’ve already won err.
Could be that too.
Wow. As soon as there was no reset mentioned. SoS came back with a vengeance. Too bad it’s too little, too late for this week’s match up.
I am for one in favour of this.
It would help a lot in assisting in forming a likely competent party. No more hiding from the group that you’re leeching off them any more.
SoS should set up some super secret meetings here some time:
JQueue can also come if they behave.
Anyone wana make a movie on how to get there without RTL? Spent an hour yesterday trying to get there, couldnt do it on my warrior. Very frustrating.
The video above shows how to get to it with Ride the Lightning and with out.
For those having trouble locating the room.
stop blaming everything on coverage just try to make your people get out of the jp when you do a major push like this…
SoS is made up of a few very solid guilds and the majority is puggers. In EB you will get a constant stream of Pver’s coming in and saying “Is there a mesmer in the JP?” – that one line annoys me to no end. So even though we would like them to participate in the battles they don’t. Luckily we don’t have queues for most the day so its not like they are using up a spot in EB. JQ will get them soon enough when PvE players hop over to their server to do the same. Since we (SoS) have been top dog for the last few months we have gained our fair share of these pests.
When Anet announced that they plan to entice more players into WvW please don’t let them come in and just head to a spot when they are rewarded. Please make them compete in the fight before giving them handouts like the EB JP.
I love the JP in WvW. No only does it give good lewt. But it also gives the best fights. WvW doesn’t utilise the Z axis too much and most of the fights for points is about who can PvD the fastest or who’s zerg can out cull the other. Boring zzz.
The JPs are the most interesting part of WvW. Along with all the shenanigans I pull in it.
Also:
Some of you need to lighten up a bit
This room has been there since launch, Tirzah, one of our designers made it in her spare time over the weekend because she wanted to. The kid in that room is also hidden in 2 other spots in the world, try to find him.
That kid is in three places at once?
….must be a master mesmer.
2 other spots are the other two borderlands.
/joke
Where is this located?
Here.
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My wife is mad at whoever’s (JQ) idea it was to walk the golums back and forth through the open gate, while I was dumping oil on you, over and over again. My laughing woke her up even though she was upstairs on the other side of the house.
Great fights in SM.
This video contains content from Studio Canal, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.
SoS’s lead probably won’t last long. I’m just waiting to see when the JQueue freight train comes rollin’ in.
Looks like the JQ coverage freight train has come in. Called it.
Dodge: Spam shadow assault as thief against a bunch of underwater mobs.
Congratulations. You’ve done the daily in 10 seconds.
These are advertised as “Extremely efficient at gathering resources and uncovering rare components.” However, I have used many of these and found that they are almost no different that using the Orichalcum harvesting tools.
Either these are broken or should have their tool tip updated because they aren’t making any noticeable difference.
Does that mean they can actually harvest Orichalcum now? Back around launch I destroyed several BL tools because they didn’t work on T6 mats (I think it was actually T4 they quit working).
I can’t say I’ve used one in months but even on the low level stuff they worked for I never saw any benefit to them beyond not having to buy other tools (assuming you got them for free).
You must be thinking of the master tools you get early on in your personal story.
fractals = optional, ascended gear = only needed for high lvl fractals = not required for normal game play
dailies = optional, for those who like to do them,
fractal rings at lvl 10 u get a token a day, 10 tokens = 1 ring you choose stats for
lurals for ascended gear = 30 days for amulet via dailys or 20 days + monthly.
please stop whining about gw2, try games like AION TERA or any other korean mmo then u can complain about how long things take to grind or RNG.
also look at WoW gear progression, 1 item from a vendor can take 2 weeks to obtain = 14 days and all raid gear is pure rng with no way to obtain them outside of raid enviroments.
if you dont like it just quit. the game still has what it says it has. just a very small part of the game is for a small portion of the comunity.
Ascended is how ever required for WvW if you want to be at your best. See how far you get playing in greens.
The root cause of the issue here is that Veil does not adhere to the usual AoE rules of ‘max 5 players’.
If Veil only stealthed 5 people then I think people would be OK with that.
Shadow Refuge only stealths 5, the same should apply for Veil.
I’ve been using Veil for months. Seeing it become the new “it” skill makes me sad because I am sure it will now be nerfed into oblivion.
The bigger problem is culling. Peole have said it above. Culling lets the stealth last longer than it should and the recent patch made it even worse.
Shadow refuge also lasts for 10 seconds. If they up Veil to 10 second would not be opposed to the 5 person limit.
The funny thing to me is that on the Mesmer forums the skill is still basically derided as a wasted utility slot.
Your veil is comparable to Thief’s blinding powder. If you want 10 second Veil. Give thieves 10 second blinding powder.
Oh and blinding powder already only stealths 5 players at a time.
Think of it this way.
What if another server’s zerg was inside the lords room of Stonemist. All of a sudden, they start to disappear. In the chaos, you figure that they either wiped or ragequit and cheer yourselves on for doing so good. You all leave in a zerg to go take some other tower. All of a sudden, less than 2 minutes later, you hear yells from teammates that a 40 man zerg just appeared inside the lord’s room. You then lose Stonemist. What happened? The enemy zerg had everyone log off for a minute and then log right back in to WvW at the last place they were standing. In the middle of your keep.
I think that would work like… once? If that.
I’d be spending at least 5 minutes sweeping for mesmers at the very least.
I hated my GW 1 ele. So easily interrupted and on top of that you had exhaustion and mana to deal with.
It’s against the rules to assassinate a character’s reputation. It’s best left in private in reports to anet support.
That said. I don’t think I’ll group with people from SoR any time soon.
I personally think the lava one is the worst one. Apparently people don’t know how to survive against the fire elementals at the end and I spend half my time resing them.
Still never leave unless it’s the 10th time my group has failed to kill the boss.
There is no longer siege allowed to be deployed in the jump puzzles. Any legitimate concerns from being prevented from finishing the puzzle with out counter are long gone now.
If you step into the EB puzzle. Get ready to PVP. Especially if you’re a camper. I kill you first.
SoS’s lead probably won’t last long. I’m just waiting to see when the JQueue freight train comes rollin’ in.
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Sea of sorrows wins every match due to superior numbers.
Sea of sorrows then loses one week and instantly complains about numbers.
Bunch of hypocrites if you ask me.
Kindly provide a screenshot proving that SOS claims wins via superior numbers thank you.
Here you go.
I have a million karma I’m doing nothing with. Deal!
I find it amusing every one is talking about who is going to be in tier 1 or 2. Yet there is a ranking reset coming. What you do now matters naught.
Though pretty sure after the ranking reset, tier 1 servers will mostly land slide their way back to it after a few weeks.
Amulet of course.
I was running with a small group on my warrior earlier today.
Setting up some catapults to bombard Anza from mid-range.
We soon see three red coats heading our way. No problem!
Until 3 phased into 10. Figured there was more due to culling problems.
Started to turn to run. 10 phased into 30.
Suddenly my screen was covered in a sea of red and dead before I can even take a step. We were already over run, surrounded and obliterated by a 50 man zerg before they even appeared.
Yeah this version of culling is really bad. Please fix.
TC. Fighting role players is always fun. Not for the reasons of most. But because they’re unpredictable in amusing ways.
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Ye i guess i have to roll a thief..
Please do. Maybe only then you’ll be able to understand a thief’s strong points and weakness once you do.
I get grey junk items from the chest.
I heard you have to spend a laurel at the laurel vendor to get the achievement.
The arrow traps in the EB jumping puzzle dark room. All you have to do is dodge in a straight line back and forth as you please.
I think one tank should be a mobile trebuchet with a few extra abilities that moves at the pace of a golem.
Then there could be another tank that is a mobile cannon with a few extra abilities that also moves at the pace of a golem.
Also neither tank can fit through mesmer portals.
2 gold and 200 supplies to build each.
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Oh I forgot when we defeated SoS in early January it was because of New Years and this week it’s because JQ has 24/7 coverage.
SoS was the original HoD 2.0. JQ cant be HoD redux since we survived the O.G. HoD power house.
The best part of all this of course is how we heard for months from SoS leaders on how SoS was superior due to guild organization and tactical skill on the field.
You can’t really say you dethroned SoS by transferring 2000 players to your server when at best SoS outnumbered you 9:8 previously…lol.
That entire premise, HoD redux, was what SoS was attempting to avoid when free transfers were announced.
It is a pity that JQ did not.
Those “leaders” quit the game a few weeks ago how ever.
Whichever server it is, I’m kitten sure they can both beat SoR any day of the week :P
I don’t think so. SoR is very different now. Their NA force is very scary. It is likely to be on par with JQ’s NA! Can’t wait and see
Doubt it. They only got such a high rating because they PvDoored an empty server for 2 weeks. Also that server wouldn’t be so empty if the majority didn’t merge into the winning team.
This is great! “The winning team”, thanks for that. We’ve one so very many over the weeks we’ve been in T1.
They’re talking about SoR.
They were implying that they merged with JQ the ‘winning team’.
No they weren’t.
Whichever server it is, I’m kitten sure they can both beat SoR any day of the week :P
I don’t think so. SoR is very different now. Their NA force is very scary. It is likely to be on par with JQ’s NA! Can’t wait and see
Doubt it. They only got such a high rating because they PvDoored an empty server for 2 weeks. Also that server wouldn’t be so empty if the majority didn’t merge into the winning team.
This is great! “The winning team”, thanks for that. We’ve one so very many over the weeks we’ve been in T1.
They’re talking about SoR.
I’d like to say I knew what he was doing but someone said he was probably switching to shortbow and using (heartseeker?), whatever the skill is to get distance on us as soon as he stealthed.
Infiltrator arrow & heatseeker break stealth. Based on my experience, the group of you miscalculated where he is heading
Infiltrator arrow yes. Heartseeker only on damage.
Your only 10k points ahead of SOS. Why do you think they are “having a hard time” if blackgate is only just beating them?
just an observation from looking at that map that someone posted at that time. Can you not see the pattern the colours make. 3 maps split right down the middle. How can you not understand that.
Its only during the Oceanic time that SoS are gaining points back on BG.
Just the natural push of WvW. Your front line is like a dam wall. If it falters. The flow leads to your spawn for both opposing servers.
so transfer fee application cause jq stacked with players having full queue in all borderlands day and night including SEA prime time. Yet has any server with enough number to counter JQ. eventually some people might get demoraled and left. so anets…didnt see that coming huh
Pretty sure someone would have said something similar when SoS was winning all the time…
definitely but not before transfer fee. was still quite balanced between all t1 servers. By balanced I mean there was still a chance to win with tactics and so on. but u gotta admit that sos is not gonna win in row again. it is so obvious jq has outnumbered even they have full force online. by the way, i mean overall coverage not just NA.
JQ or SOS, whoever got mass transfer i would say the same.
I believe anets meant to balance www population by applying fee so that guilds would not simply transfer and produce hod and sbi. but it seems they missed out something. and see what happened now? please dont say it is balanced, we all know what the word means…JQ is one of the original standing tier 1 servers, it had its highs and lows and yet still remains a robust community. While I’m sure many of the ‘instant win kids’ tried to transfer over, JQ was already ‘very high’ to ‘full’ when the 28th was announced. So how many people could get on the server? Only ArenaNet knows, for everyone else its a best guess and if a few new guilds/players QQ and quit JQ, the server will still remain strong given its foundation.
If it is a question of balance now, then its because JQ has presented its community better than SoS has. As far as I know, no significant guilds have left SoS which means they should have been looking to acquire more guilds to consolidate its position, not point the finger on how they missed out….
There was a particularly significant guild that took siege donations with them the day before they left the SoS server. Then went to EU WvW for a while and now has returned to NA WvW on the JQ server.
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Zerg at your door? Rain down fire and light them up! Get downed on the walls of the structure you’re defending? No problem! Vapour form hover away to safety!
Zerg at your door? Rain down deadly poison and blow them up with cluster bomb. Get downed on the walls of the structure you’re defending? No problem! Teleport out of the red circles to safety!
Deadly poison? Cluster bomb? …Teleport? lol
Step 2: Shadow Refuge run to their siege. Dagger Storm twirls of death!
I’d like you to meet two friends of mine. Mr. Melee and Mrs. Feedback.
Also if you go down before you reach the gate portal. You can’t “teleport” in unlike how Eles can hover in unopposed.

