There is a way players are able to script/macro the staff skill “surge of the mists” to hit all 9x without knocking the target away after the initial impact.
This is pretty much an instant kill for any light armor class not under the effects of protection.
Stability does nothing, stun break does nothing…. and its pretty much the equivalent of getting run over by a bus irl.
The skill’s mechanics definitely need to be looked at.
…and even though this is next to impossible to accomplish without a macro/script… altering the way the skill functions should fix the problem.
Skill already took a 30% hit since release, is countered by things like shock aura, mirror of anguish, eye for an eye, rune of nightmare, etc. etc.
I don’t see how a macro would help at all, once you use the skill you cant turn or do anything but launch forward. If you let a rev predict your movements and perfectly train you down with all hits, you probably deserved it. If you were moving around even slightly, odds are you’ll get hit by like 3 or 4k tops.
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Balancing Revenant: Nerf the hell out of Rolling Mists.
Thats critical hit effectiveness right? I still don’t understand why that’s a thing. 20% crit chance goes up to 40% crit chance with fury , fury gives 20% crit chance. basically 60% crit chance with no points in precision. Ok…
no it only increases fury from 20% to 40%, but this is still an op trait
I’ll give you roiling mists if I can have riposting shadows, crystal hibernation and surge of the mists back. The amount of “rev so OP” from people that don’t play the class and haven’t been paying attention to the insane nerfs it has gotten is funny.
It’s funny when revs cry about rev receiving “insane nerfs” and in the same breath fail to acknowledge how those nerfs didn’t go anywhere near far enough XD
I guess the insanity is how OP rev is despite nerfs. Makes you think about what tier of Mount Olympus they lived on before XD
I’m not a rev. I play 5 of the classes in this game pretty proficiently, including revenant. Rev is slowly slipping to thief s1 territory if morons like you and Fay that have probably never touched a revenant dictate what the class should be.
Edit: oops, after looking at your sig links I know exactly the kind of person I am talking to. Can’t let go of power warrior/mes brah, everything gotta be nerfed to your level?
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Mallyx has no stunbreaks and 0 synergy with any power build. Not to mention that you have to take Corruption.
God forbid you have to sacrifice something to get something else.
The ironic thing is, it still doesn’t have clears.
And I nor will any revenant sacrifice viability just to get condition clears. The whole point why we want condition clears is to BE more viable without humping an Ele’s leg. Mallyx, Ventari, and Jalis don’t put as in a more viable state.
Amazing that I have to spell that out to your dense kitten .
If you’re sacrificing viability to get clears, then clearly you’re currently viable and don’t need buffs.
8/9 classes are “viable.” By your logic then, none of them need any more tweaking and the game is perfect as is.
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Mallyx has no stunbreaks and 0 synergy with any power build. Not to mention that you have to take Corruption.
God forbid you have to sacrifice something to get something else.
The ironic thing is, it still doesn’t have clears.
And I nor will any revenant sacrifice viability just to get condition clears. The whole point why we want condition clears is to BE more viable without humping an Ele’s leg. Mallyx, Ventari, and Jalis don’t put as in a more viable state.
Amazing that I have to spell that out to your dense kitten .
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If conditions are too powerful, why is the meta builds spread 3 condition offensive classes(nec/mes/warr), 2 power offensive classes(rev/thief) and 3 defensive power classes(ranger/druid/engi)?
Maybe because different classes have different strengths, skills, and traits??? Just because Celestial was useless on Thief doesn’t mean it wasn’t ridiculous on pre-HoT d/d Ele.
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Run other legends if you want more condi cleanse. Every single class has to sacrifice something for more condi cleanses.
Pls Cynz, on thief it is a single trait swap, on revenant it is traitline swaps and heal skill + utility skills + elite skill swaps. Not to mention how terrible those heal utility and elite skills are on the condi cleansing legends.
Pleasee Beep, revs also have higher HP and better heals than thief~ Besides nobody takes that trait.
Higher HP = gr8 2 more autos of health!
Better heals wut, Shiro is often not counted as a heal and Infused Light can be so easily countered.
Nobody takes that trait? You mean like nobody takes ventari or jalis but you bring them up like they’re remotely relevant?
Extra HP is actually great when fighting condi builds. You still have 2 heals, no matter how you put it. Nobody takes that trait because it competes with dps one. That one trait won’t help you with condi bombs but dps one will help to kill condi builds faster. Same reason why you take shiro and herald and not something else – to kill targets faster.
4k HP is like 2-3 ticks of condi bomb.
2 heals on 30 sec CD, one of which is very ineffective and the other is countered by stowing weapon.
You think the reason revs are locked into shiro and glint is to kill stuff faster? Lol no no no, it is because Jalis and Ventari are RIP. Ventari might as well be deleted and Jalis has no use in Conquest.
Get off thief once in a while m8
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Run other legends if you want more condi cleanse. Every single class has to sacrifice something for more condi cleanses.
Pls Cynz, on thief it is a single trait swap, on revenant it is traitline swaps and heal skill + utility skills + elite skill swaps. Not to mention how terrible those heal utility and elite skills are on the condi cleansing legends.
Pleasee Beep, revs also have higher HP and better heals than thief~ Besides nobody takes that trait.
Higher HP = gr8 2 more autos of health!
Better heals wut, Shiro is often not counted as a heal and Infused Light can be so easily countered.
Nobody takes that trait? You mean like nobody takes ventari or jalis but you bring them up like they’re remotely relevant?
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Run other legends if you want more condi cleanse. Every single class has to sacrifice something for more condi cleanses.
Pls Cynz, on thief it is a single trait swap, on revenant it is traitline swaps and heal skill + utility skills + elite skill swaps. Not to mention how terrible those heal utility and elite skills are on the condi cleansing legends.
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not having a perfect toolkit in 1-2 legendaries is kind of the point of legends and of utility skills in general. you have to sacrifice some elements in exchange for the thing you want. if you want more condi clears, as with anyone else, you have to slot more condi clears.
revenants are no different. if you want more condi clears, slot the legends that give you those condi clears. ventari is one of them. jalis is another
if revenants are so weak against conditions that they become unviable, then ventari and jalis become as viable as your current build, so why not play ventari or jalis? obvious answer is that they aren’t unviable as they stand- power herald is already a meta build, so adding condi clears just makes them even stronger!
You’re being so dense it is amusing.
No revenant takes ventari or jalis which provide clears because those legends are so weak that they are better off being more effective taking shiro/glint with no clears. If we are in a state where revenant shiro and glint are both not viable, then revenant as a whole will not be viable. As they are now, ventari and jalis will never ever come close to meta.
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Sure, let’s buff thief for teamfights. Shortly after all the non-team fight usefulness of that class gets nerfed, of course. You can’t be best at everything, no matter how badly you’d wish for it.
Also, do you really think you can just jump in the middle of a huge melee while completely escaping any consequences?
TL;DR:
ITT: OP wants thieves to not only be the best mobility/roamer class, good at decapping, 1v1, and +1-ing, but also be the best tank that can go into the thick of it, deal huge damage, and leave unscathed.
Lolnope.
How is a class good at at decap or +1, that’s stuff anyone can do…
Thief isn’t even good at 1v1…
The only thing thief has is mobility and quick burst. You’re pretending like they’re the god that celestial elementalist was before HoT. You’re wrong.
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Traps need a change to reward active play. I think that they should nerf the passive activation but add an active activation skill that has more benefit than what they give right now.
Other than that the only ones I ever have problems with is Maw, which always tells me to focus the DH that cast it for the rest of the match since they will definitely be the best target without renewed focus.
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The issue I am pointing out is that there have been so many rev nerfs with no buffs in any other area being discussed.
You say this as though nerfs have to be compensated with buffs to be “fair”. You’re wrong. Revs were brokenly strong, so they got nerfed. They’re still extremely strong, so they’re probably going to get nerfed more, and without buffs because that would sorta defeat the purpose of nerfing them.
Do you even play a rev? Put weakness on a rev and use a skill like Rise and GG no more damage. Put conditions on a rev and they can’t do anything. CH makes you a sitting duck because you’re literally stuck there. Once it’s over, YOU’RE over. And LOL at you saying SotM is “overpowered” still, I dodge that kitten all the time, l2p. Have you even ever played a revenant??
>claims to reliably dodge a skill with zero activation time
I completely believe your claims. I have no doubts whatsoever about them. I’m positive that you’re being completely truthful in what you say. There is no possible chance that any of these statements may be anything but the pure representation reality.
It’s called predicting what your enemy is going to do. If you ever PLAYED a rev you would have a good idea when they’re going to staff burst. But yes continue being ignorant. Didn’t even bother denying that you never played a rev, and anyone’s supposed to take you seriously when you talk about rev skills.
Also, let me guess, Backstab is OP because it has no visible cast time? L2P.
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The issue I am pointing out is that there have been so many rev nerfs with no buffs in any other area being discussed.
You say this as though nerfs have to be compensated with buffs to be “fair”. You’re wrong. Revs were brokenly strong, so they got nerfed. They’re still extremely strong, so they’re probably going to get nerfed more, and without buffs because that would sorta defeat the purpose of nerfing them.
Do you even play a rev? Put weakness on a rev and use a skill like Rise and GG no more damage. Put conditions on a rev and they can’t do anything. CH makes you a sitting duck because you’re literally stuck there. Once it’s over, YOU’RE over. And LOL at you saying SotM is “overpowered” still, I dodge that kitten all the time, l2p. Have you even ever played a revenant??
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Thief damage (including pulminary impact) needs to drop before you buff their sustain. They already have a low CD block stunbreak, seemingly spammable evades, and incredible mobility. If you play thief well, you can fight in chaotic teamfights. And if not, then you can decap because you can get to a point and back to the fight faster than any profession. Good thieves sit back and support rather than getting into the thick of it. You only go in to finish off a target or once things are less hectic.
Thieves are better against condis than people think. You’ll need to sacrifice pulminary impact (you won’t need it if you’re running staff), but removing a condi when you evade on a 1 second CD is far stronger than it sounds. You can shadowstep to remove 3 condis. You can move all movement impairing condis when you dodge. Staff, has two evading skills. Use them. The amount of dodges you have is astonishing, so you really shouldn’t be getting hit by condi bombs, and if you are, you can cleanse them. Don’t just spam vault for damage if you need those evades.
God, I’m so sick of thieves thinking they still need buffs.
pls show us ur amazing thief team fite gameplay
idk how you even managed to bring condition clears into this discussion when it’s about team fight lol, like somehow good condi clear = well he must be good at team fights!
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Balancing Revenant: Nerf the hell out of Rolling Mists.
Thats critical hit effectiveness right? I still don’t understand why that’s a thing. 20% crit chance goes up to 40% crit chance with fury , fury gives 20% crit chance. basically 60% crit chance with no points in precision. Ok…
no it only increases fury from 20% to 40%, but this is still an op trait
I’ll give you roiling mists if I can have riposting shadows, crystal hibernation and surge of the mists back. The amount of “rev so OP” from people that don’t play the class and haven’t been paying attention to the insane nerfs it has gotten is funny.
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Don’t forget the condi cancer guys who can stealth when they start losing and run away
Pathetic lol
2016 and we’re still whining about stealth o boy
Go make another dire rant, o boy
Conditions are broken in roaming that is a fact, stealth has been a L2P problem for years. So, kindly L2P.
BTW, Guardians (Trapper), Engis, Rangers, Mesmers and Thieves all have stealth now. If you can’t figure out how to deal with half the classes in the game because “omg stealth op” don’t bother posting in the forum. Weren’t you the one that made an “lol im and old man” thread about how “kids these days!” don’t want to die and run from a losing fight? Cringe.
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Eh I don’t see it as bad a thief or warrior were for the first 2 seasons when people would flame at them before the match even begins. Anet can continue I’ll enjoy from the side c:
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P/P I can get 20k+ damage in about 4-5 seconds. That’s two unloads. A total of 10 initiative. This isn’t full zerkers, this is a mix and match of armor.
P/D, assuming I use all my utilities to increase my damage, and assuming the target is standing completely still, and assuming they don’t have passive traits that proc condition clears, I can tick maybe 6k? for a couple of seconds. Assuming I used two sneak attacks, it probably took me around 5-6 seconds and involved 12 initiative.
I compare these because they both are the same mainhand weapon. Likewise I would compare D/D builds, or D/P builds on both condi and zerker. I doubt the zerker is lacking for damage over the condition build (assuming one is zerker and the other dire).
That’s great testing and all on target golems, but try real players next time. It is not the raw damage, it is the stats and survivability with comparable damage that is the problem.
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Just nurf dire to be as effective as Soldiers instead of being as effective as full zerk but having the toughness and vitality of soldiers. Problem solved. Conditions need rework, it isn’t news.
Condition duration should have been heavily nerfed across all skills when Expertise was introduced in order to make Expertise more required. Now it is just a fluff stat that few take.
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Is there a change recently that I was unaware of? Because last I check 5 stacks of confusion on interrupt (15s ICD) and 3 stacks of confusion on hit (25s ICD) can’t kill any decent player.
No, but the rune + tank stats + condition damage that bypasses all toughness and can DoT to ridiculous amounts (6k burning ticks, 1k PASSIVE confusion tick that procs 5k on skill use) allow anyone to play with their feet and out sustain power builds.
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I play Warrior and Druid exclusively since GW2 came out.
Last week I geared a Mesmer in condi/perplex gear. I was steamrolling everyone I encountered with ease, simply by mashing buttons, even most 2v1’s were easy. I have to actually pay attention and try on my mains.
Condi application is cheesemode as kitten.
Perplex is only in WvW though, and I will also guess you were in Dire gear. These two gear components are over the top and are not allowed in PvP (and imo should be removed from WvW as well).
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So what you’re saying is, the only decent counter to scrapper right now is the out of control condition burst/spam?
Ok then XD
I said Invo rev before, you forgot tho
So your suggested counter to a high sustain bruiser specialized in anti-power build combat is…a glass power build?
I struggle to see how..you should explain how an inv rev counter a scrapper, are we forgetting that an inv rev lack stab respect to a ret rev..or am I missing something?
Do you play either of these builds? I play both and have zero problem on Invocation rev 1 v 1 vs Scrapper. Scrappers don’t have enough damage and are just too slow and predictable for rev’s active defenses and sustain. Rev’s damage is just too much for Scrapper to sustain through for long.
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Soooooooooo let’s make every class have no damaging condition clear? rofl
It’s already bad enough that conditions are hilariously easy to cover to cause enemies to blow condition clears. Weakness and protection affect power only while vulnerability also affects conditions. Resistance is hardly available. I don’t think you even factored -50% damage reduction effects such as Bulwark Gyro, “Rise!”, “Guard!” or Phantasmal Defender. A necromancer that puts weakness on me and casts “Rise!” becomes essentially immune to my 94% crit chance Marauder Invocation revenant. And with all this power damage hate in the game, you think it would be “healthier” to remove the only thing we have to negate conditions.
silly idea, nice try bub
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Honestly perplexity isn’t as bad as it once was, purely because it’s been overtaken by the HoT power creep. I can’t think of a single build I’ve encountered recently where perplexity runes alone made it work.
Dire isn’t an issue at all anymore – toughness and vit are just about dump stats. If you don’t have condi clear and regen it doesn’t make any difference how much HP and armour you have anymore.
Dump stats? Gee I wish I could build max tank stats and still do as much damage as a zerk build. Oh wait I can just roll condi.
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tru you gotta kinda trust Legendaries to not be kittens about it, but if Legendaries were to stop queueing with anyone below Legendary then ranked might as well be inaccessible to Legendary players. Queues are slow enough as they are right now.
Legendary players give 0 kitten about losing/win games . Doesnt matter even if they have back or not , 0 punishment . Oh something happened at mid? Better to go afk , why would i tryhard , im legend!
Dont care about thier Q time since they dont care about win or losing a game for others.
And everyone not at legendary by this point is a terribad. Isn’t it nice making assumptions about groups of people?
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tru you gotta kinda trust Legendaries to not be kittens about it, but if Legendaries were to stop queueing with anyone below Legendary then ranked might as well be inaccessible to Legendary players. Queues are slow enough as they are right now.
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It shows the disgusting difference in skill Ithilwen has with an upper division player. She has been making threads throughout the seasons about how she is stuck because “MMR HELL!!!!” and how the game favors certain players, then she finally posted a video of her playing and its as bad as you can imagine. I very well know the game is not balanced on 1 v 1, but it will clearly show the skill gap. Anything in a 5 v 5 would just result in “ahhh my team was so bad why can’t I grind out games oh woe is me.”
It still doesn’t mean much though imo, because PvP is a team game and 1v1s don’t count for all the other things you need to focus on in a PvP match. It’ll show whether she can beat whoever in this 1v1 but that doesn’t really display what is happening in a match.
It shows the disgusting difference in skill Ithilwen has with an upper division player. She has been making threads throughout the seasons about how she is stuck because “MMR HELL!!!!” and how the game favors certain players, then she finally posted a video of her playing and its as bad as you can imagine. I very well know the game is not balanced on 1 v 1, but it will clearly show the skill gap. Anything in a 5 v 5 would just result in “ahhh my team was so bad why can’t I grind out games oh woe is me.”
It still doesn’t mean much though imo, because PvP is a team game and 1v1s don’t count for all the other things you need to focus on in a PvP match. It’ll show whether she can beat whoever in this 1v1 but that doesn’t really display what is happening in a match.
Asking for a nerf to D/D 3 is asking to nerf the consistently single worst weapon skill thief has through the years on arguably the least competitive weapon set thief has.
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Ithilwen why don’t you try a 1 v 1 vs a legendary player to see if its really matchmaking that boosted them lol.
This wouldn’t prove anything. Firstly, PvP is a team game, secondly, who out of legendary do you choose? The one that’s been carried by premades of 4, or the one that is extraordinarily good? Third you clearly miss her point in that this will clearly be unbalanced and this is what she is saying; that the match making is unbalanced and you’re put against an unfair advantage. So a 1v1 wouldn’t display anything.
This is actually one of the biggest problems in PvP. People are so blind to what is happening across the map. They’re just interested in winning their 1v1s, often off point, not giving two hoots to the fact the enemy has all 3 points and your team is dead. Until people accept its a team effort and act accordingly, solo PvP is a gamble.
Whether this is true or not, I don’t know. But don’t waste forum space adding stupid comments like this.
It shows the disgusting difference in skill Ithilwen has with an upper division player. She has been making threads throughout the seasons about how she is stuck because “MMR HELL!!!!” and how the game favors certain players, then she finally posted a video of her playing and its as bad as you can imagine. I very well know the game is not balanced on 1 v 1, but it will clearly show the skill gap. Anything in a 5 v 5 would just result in “ahhh my team was so bad why can’t I grind out games oh woe is me.”
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@Ithilwen
You cant really blame the mmr when youre such a weak player due to your arm/hand. In every season, you bring up thread after thread about mmr hell, when in fact you arent in mmr hell. The game is created in the way that you need 2 functional arms/hands to play it, it doesnt consider damaged arms/hands. It probably works well for you in pve but pvp is alot different. I think you just have to realise that theres no way for anet or mm to make it better for you under your circumstances.
Also…try scrapper, why even try warrior with your arm/hand, its a real bad choice. Go scrapper that have one skill bar basically with alot of sustain. The class can carry you a tiny bit but dont expect wonders.
This is the rudest most insensitive ignorant statement ever. Google Recessive Dystrophic Epidermolysis Bullosa and then come back with the same statement: “[I] need two functional arms/hands to play”. I play perfectly fine, probably better than average. The OPs ability to play and be good at PvP has nothing to do with her disability on the whole. You also need a brain and it seems most PvPers don’t have one of those including you. Utter nonsense.
Besides, there are countless people with even worse disabilities than me and they play with adaptations such as foot pedals, voice commands and so on. Don’t be so absent minded. I am utterly disgusted with your ignorance.
gr8 for them idc
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Don’t really see the problem with thieves but if at all they should look at the amounts of damage thieves can deal while dodging so much instead of the dodges themselves.
4k backstabs so OP nerf anet pls
backstab confirmed for dodge, thanks for teaching me something new
I was rather talking about bounding dodge/vault/etc, but like I mentioned, I don’t think nerfs are necessary there either, just that it would be a better to point to start at than reducing the amount of dodges a thief has, should anet decide they need to tone it down…
Thief sees some play and people immediately call for nerfs its hilarious. Please, tell me where you plan to buff thief then if you’re going to gut it’s damage to trash tier again.
I’m sorry what the kitten are you on about? lmao
I’m not even saying thief needs nerfs
“Don’t really see the problem with thieves but if at all they should look at the amounts of damage thieves can deal while dodging so much instead of the dodges themselves.”
Suggesting they “look at amounts of damage thieves can deal” isn’t suggesting a nerf? You are suggesting a probable change, and I seriously doubt you mean a buff.
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Don’t really see the problem with thieves but if at all they should look at the amounts of damage thieves can deal while dodging so much instead of the dodges themselves.
4k backstabs so OP nerf anet pls
backstab confirmed for dodge, thanks for teaching me something new
I was rather talking about bounding dodge/vault/etc, but like I mentioned, I don’t think nerfs are necessary there either, just that it would be a better to point to start at than reducing the amount of dodges a thief has, should anet decide they need to tone it down…
Thief sees some play and people immediately call for nerfs its hilarious. Please, tell me where you plan to buff thief then if you’re going to gut it’s damage to trash tier again.
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Don’t really see the problem with thieves but if at all they should look at the amounts of damage thieves can deal while dodging so much instead of the dodges themselves.
4k backstabs so OP nerf anet pls
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thieves have down time in between evades lol…it runs out at somepoint sigh
play couple high end games, no one complaints about thief dodges there
not high end,
even mid tier people won’t complain about that
That downtime is too low. You won’t kill him in that short time window and the sacrifice for the evade is not high enough. You should either do damage which costs energy or evade which costs energy – not both while regenerating energy.
You haven’t realized yet that killing him is not the point of the game?
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