I agree, nerf conditions because 3 power burst specs won’t instagib you if they focus right?
Sure condition Mesmer is annoying but decent condition cleansing, line of sighting to prevent sceptre 3 goes a long way. However generally I wouldn’t pick the fight unless I was at a camp or something that needed defending, just a waste of time fighting it as you can be there for 10 mins without anyone really winning.
Btw are you still running base ranger Babou? Saw you the other night and thought you weren’t using Druid but might have been mistaken.
If you mean 3 burst players focusing you, you deserve to die no matter what build you are using when focused by 3 players lol. Although these days that doesn’t seem to be true for condi mesmers and mindless AoE shatter spamming.
If you meant there are 3 burst builds capable of instagibbing a full dire max toughness max vitality any class, please state which ones you THINK they are. The only one I can think of is full signet zerker d/d thief, which is a one trick pony and will probably die to the passive 3 confusion stacks from perplexity.
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Umm that is why I said closely inline. I was vague for a reason. You really must like your thief to directly attack me out of context like this. A change to perma evade or bandits defense shouldn’t bother thief too much anyway assuming they use mechanical skill.
You pretty much said it is only good for ranking up easily, implying it is only good at lower level play. Then you want it nerfed. That is why you make 0 sense. You want something that is only viable vs bads nerfed because you happen to not like it.
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Just remove rune of perplexity and tone down mesmer condition application. Simple fixes that would improve the health of small scale combat SO much, and not affect large scale combat.
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Every small group these days is just made of condition mesmers, necros, and thieves. It is getting really stupid, as if the last 2 years of condition roaming meta wasn’t stupid enough.
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2-So, you admit that they exist? But want to argue over technalities?? OK .. even shin called them and I quote " I am not used to go against thieves with shield"
3- just like number 2, you deny the claim then go on to say that they exist and claim that it’s not viable…
No, there is no such thing as a shield thief or an illusion thief. Period. He tried to clarify what in the world you were referring to, since they do not exist.
Do you call a minion master an illusion necro? No, that makes no sense. Calling thieves who use Thieves Guild “illusion thieves” is similarly silly. Thieves Guild gives you two allies that deal very low damage and last 30s on a 180s cooldown. How do you make an “illusion thief” (implying those allies are the primary focus of the build) out of that? Similarly, how do you make a “shield thief” with one single block skill? It’s a great skill, but no thief builds revolve around blocking (or “shielding” if you insist on using the word shield) because we simply don’t have any other blocks!
I dont main thief and i have never touched them. I dont main thief and i have never touched them. I dont main thief and i have never touched them. I dont main thief and i have never touched them. I dont main thief and i have never touched them. I dont main thief and i have never touched them. I dont main thief and i have never touched them. I dont main thief and i have never touched them. I dont main thief and i have never touched them.
Discussions over folks
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This video shows how I used bandits defense to survive a while match without dying even if outnumbered. And again I didn’t have to do much trying more than role. (Similar can be done with damage specs using staff)
2) Shield thief simply doesn’t exist because thieves can’t hold shields. I’m assuming you mean a thief that uses the Bandit’s defense utility. But, that’s a daredevil utility, not a build.
3) There is no such thing as an illusion thief. I’m going to assume you mean thieves that take the Thieves guild elite. It’s a horrible elite and with a 180s cooldown, it is not even close to build-defining.
4) Just a heads up: perma evade thief isn’t necessarily just one build—any of the 3 “builds” you listed above can classify as one as long as they are a daredevil using signet of agility.
1- They are viable against some camps, just like I warrior can switch to condi or whatever to take down a necro.. Venom share, from what I have observed, work quite nicely against DH.
2-So, you admit that they exist? But want to argue over technalities?? OK .. even shin called them and I quote " I am not used to go against thieves with shield"
3- just like number 2, you deny the claim then go on to say that they exist and claim that it’s not viable…
4-ok, so switching a trait or an elite /utility skills no longer qualify something as a Build?
What are you disagreeing with exactly? I have faced any of the above in ranked, they might not look viable to you but may work with someone else. Just like warriors have 4 or 3 different build.. with one being stronger than the other… if you want to argue over technalities then heads up to you. But you have disproved nothing…
Gs/ sw shield isn’t consider viable either but I reck people with it..
And almost lost to a Druid with no weapons, opinion dismissed
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Exactly, which is why I don’t play condi cheese lol
Give in to it… you know it’s delicious.
No thanks, I like active play.
Active play is reserved for cheeseboxes like Daredevils, DHs, Revs, and Berserkers.
6k per Vault on 2300 toughness. For power shatter to do any kind of meaningful damage, you have to go glass. Good luck with that.
The rise of the cheese is easily attributable to the tardmode power creep of these “active” power builds with their one-shot skills. People don’t enjoy getting 80% of their life being blown away by a single skill by classes who can bunker up and still deliver these cheesy numbers.
Active play. Oh please.
You can walk out of Vault, you know that.
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For example, a thief is 100% helpless when he’s coming down on his vault animation (outside of mugging to interrupt). But it’s up to the thief’s opponent to be good enough to land skills during this animation.
If every class / build had instant / fast, ranged interrupts like mantra of distraction mes / f3 or steal / head shot then yeah it would be up to the opponent, but when classes / builds have interrupts with the same 3/4 of sec cast time as vault the idea of precision interrupting it at the right frames is laughable (and let’s not even talk about waiting for most AI to respond), just one more example of why “skill” in this game is so secondary.
I would actually second this, and if i may, perma evades thieves and shield thieves are strong duelist. That’s just too much:
- mobility
-decap
- +1
-Now able to win 1 vs 1 with ease??
That looks like a pre S1 revenant to me.
Edit: they have become so strong, that some thieves no longer decap and rather be in team fights lol..
Oh my god I am in tears, if this looks anything like pre S1 rev to you you need a big fat L2P.
And what the hell is a shield thief???
Edit: Then again, I am speaking to the guy that nearly got beat by a Druid with no weapons.
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I don’t really understand dueling in WvW. You’re using broken runes and stay combinations that have been removed from competitive pvp because they’re either too passive or powerful.
And so what you can pick off zerglings? Half those players are new to the game or just play casually. It’s like bragging about a lower leveled player in another MMO.
I get it, play your way I could care less. But if Anet every starts looking for solutions to que problems or help new players into WvW, then /bowing for hours around SMC won’t last long.
Yeah I’m sure Anet will kick people out of WvW for not zerging LOL
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I hope you uderstand its hard to take a clicker seriously when talking about balancing issues.
As for the build, it just requires CC lock timing/kiting when 1v1ing or literally ignoring it on teamfights
If they take the 12 sec CD block they fixed their cc problem instead of the skill 9 taken in the video skill 8 also breaks cc a passive is active on this thief that breaks cc. CC will not kill this thief. It can literally tank a point longer than a guardian in 1 vs 5. I haven’t even touched on the thieves that abuse this with SA to hold a point then swap to d/p and run to the next point.
“abuse this with SA to hold a point”
Now we know you have no clue what you are talking about
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:O
Where did you get that? I finished the Flame Citadel reward track and never got stuff like that. Which track was it?
I’ve been doing Triumphant as much as possible. Sometimes (because I don’t open my loot until it fills inventory) I spill over into other reward tracks. Speaking of which, suggestion for Anet, make it possible to just repeat reward tracks instead of spilling over into others when the track is done.
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Idk if it’s just me but I’ve gotten like 5 ascended armor chests since tracks have started. Is WvW loot meant to be more rewarding for the time being or was I chosen by RNGesus?
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WvWvW isn’t duel zone, it is warground, all around cry pls dont kill me, pls dont kill my oponent, pls go aways we have a duel, no one help u in combat coz they think it is duel. Stop it guys pls, and dear Anet, pls make a duel zone (not guild arena) in pve world, that all over the tyria can enter and use comand /duel or use buff from npc to make dialog with another player and duel him
there already is a dule zone called Obsidian Sanctum. Why they dont’t use it no one knows.
Because duelers are also roamers, camp flippers, and scouts.
I dont see how a dueler who constantly hangs around sm taggin it with dules can call themself a scout/roamer.
Nobody comes to WvW exclusively to duel. They are just dueling for the time being and will probably go back to doing other stuff later. I don’t see how being a zergling makes your spot in queue more important than anyone else’s.
You do what you want i do what i want.
Go ahead, I don’t even duel. Those duelers are way better than your average zergling though. And they will pick your tail if you kitten them off.
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WvWvW isn’t duel zone, it is warground, all around cry pls dont kill me, pls dont kill my oponent, pls go aways we have a duel, no one help u in combat coz they think it is duel. Stop it guys pls, and dear Anet, pls make a duel zone (not guild arena) in pve world, that all over the tyria can enter and use comand /duel or use buff from npc to make dialog with another player and duel him
there already is a dule zone called Obsidian Sanctum. Why they dont’t use it no one knows.
Because duelers are also roamers, camp flippers, and scouts.
I dont see how a dueler who constantly hangs around sm taggin it with dules can call themself a scout/roamer.
Nobody comes to WvW exclusively to duel. They are just dueling for the time being and will probably go back to doing other stuff later. I don’t see how being a zergling makes your spot in queue more important than anyone else’s.
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I Bought Hot – Revenant | [QQ]
This is like when the karma trainers in eotm complained and cried about duelers killing karma training upscales in eotm. The duelers aregument was that “this is a pvp area hurr durr go pve blah blah”
Same applies here, its a pvp area and you can and should kill everyone with a red nametag.
Thing is if you kill duelers with zerg they get angry and start harassing ur zerg and ur own server duellers will start messing with ur defense activations also giving info to other team and all that stuff what you love , its just better leave duellers alone makes ur life easyer
Yes sir. If I am dueling someone and my servers zerg blobs down my fight – you better bet I will start following that zerg and dropping troll food on them every time they stop and troll trebs on every supply depot when they cap stuff. I am that guy, will always be that guy. You mess with how I want to play, I’ll mess with how you want to play.
Moral of the story is to treat others the way you want to be treated. If you want people to mess with your game play, go ahead and mess with theirs.
But you are messing with how others want to play by dueling and not helping people cap points or fight the blob. So dont be mad when a blob runs your dule over.
By that logic, everyone not in WvW on your server is “messing with how others want to play.”
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WvWvW isn’t duel zone, it is warground, all around cry pls dont kill me, pls dont kill my oponent, pls go aways we have a duel, no one help u in combat coz they think it is duel. Stop it guys pls, and dear Anet, pls make a duel zone (not guild arena) in pve world, that all over the tyria can enter and use comand /duel or use buff from npc to make dialog with another player and duel him
there already is a dule zone called Obsidian Sanctum. Why they dont’t use it no one knows.
Because duelers are also roamers, camp flippers, and scouts.
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I Bought Hot – Revenant | [QQ]
Smaller, flatter. Easier to find fights, less BS mechanics.
Sure desert is different, but different doesn’t mean better.
Edit: And I am amazed that you think there is more “crap in the way” in Alpines than in desert. Yeah this is a l2NavigateTheMap issue.
It isn’t. I figured it out pretty quickly. The problem is you have to take falling damage to get anywhere and those paths are one-way. To get back up them you have to circle around.
That is your complaint?? Did we play the same two borderlands??
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My playtime in WvW has dropped considerably because I still dislike T1 WvW tacitcs. I’ve played in the BLs consistently since the linking began and I can definitely say for myself and for quite a few members of my guild and the guilds we run with (no not speaking for everyone) that we still prefer the mid sized battles that take a somewhat moderate amount of skill in knowing your character and team, tactics and a decent leader calling out commands to take down an enemy party or defensive team guarding a tower or keep to the mindless full server zergs that can appear out of nowhere and destroy anything in its path like it was the Nothing from the Neverending Story.
Come on now, my guild normally runs between 5 and 10 and we have no problem with “zergs.” You just need to know when to call it quits and run, other than that we still get plenty of good fights.
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I love how people say ET is the strongest t8 server like its t8 and and they were in last place how strong can they be? Maybe BG has a huge rise in population because before veterans quit they moved back to BG like myself and are starting to play again with the alpine bls coming back. But keep saying strong t8 server it makes me laugh.
ET had been dominating T8 and had by far the largest population; then they got paired with the highest population T1.
As I said in another thread, BG should have been left alone, all 3 T8s should have been combined with JQ, and YB should have gotten a T7.
Wonder what server you’re on
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Always HATED the double team ups. At one time I was on a server that loved to do that. In the end, us getting double teamed is fine. Loosing is fine. Things always change, We stomped on BG and JQ when they double teamed us, In time, we will do the same as we always have. BG and DB just double teamed our keep. Enjoy your victory, in time, things will change, they always do………
Can’t be a complete WvW thread without a 2v1 accusation.
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Why 30 people at night is more important for win than 400 people in prime time?
Because the score awarded is absolutely the same around the clock. Neither person around the time of day is awarded more or less. Right now the score scales with population perfectly well. If the enemy has 30 players, you’ll need 30 to stay even. If you have 400, the enemy will need 400. It’s always been balanced.
Also, what is “night” and what is “prime time”? Prime time last all of 4 hours. So you are saying you want your 4 hours to be worth more than the other 20 hours in a day? And, you don’t see an issue with your logic?
The score may be awarded the same around the clock, but “coverage wars” ensures that it is almost never even players. It is almost never balanced because of this.
If for those 4 hours, there’s twice as many players online than the other 20, then sure.
IMO these changes need to happen to prevent PvDooring and nightcapping deciding winners:
1. PPT for non upgraded structures is less than upgraded structures so night players will have incentive to do more than claim paper structures.
2. Points per Capture should be implemented. Papering a waypointed garrison gets you no points outside of ticks. It is an achievement that deserves more points.
3. More Points per Kill. Nothing drastic, maybe moving from 1 to 2 would be enough.
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I Bought Hot – Revenant | [QQ]
Agreed I’m tired of losing wars because YB can’t fight but nobody has jobs there so they K train all night. If changing the scoring system is gonna give me opponents who can fight I’m all for it.
If BG were a sports team they would be droning on about how great they are at football while losing playing a basketball game.
Hopefully BG finally has a full time 2 to 1 player ratio so they can win some matches and stop the complaining.
Mmm salty
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Sounds like they can’t keep up with the pace of competition in T1 while BG is playing the game the way Anet designed for it to be played. Maybe it’s time for them to drop and let another server that can provide good competition come to T1? :/
kappa
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Im roaming and dueling for some years now here in Sfr. No one gives a kitten . Even commanders Just Let us duel while complete zerks passing by. Ofc in every zerk you have no brainers that want to interupt your duel. Thats always funny, cause those who interupt are the ones who getting powned. So in my experience. Only bad no skilled people complaining xD
Your experience means nothing, the system CHANGED,players are now in long queues to get into wvw to actually play WVW. The duelers are essentially glorified afkers as far as the game modes objective is concerned, your contributing nothing and preventing an actual contributing player from playing
Of course no one cared about duelers in EBG for the past 3 years, there was no reason to care, but now there is.
No queue? Duel all you want.
Large queue preventing people from playing legit? Go somewhere else and have some common courtesy for your fellow players.
A duelers spot in queue is no less important than a zergers. There is no requirement to join a group or do anything. Once I get in I can do. Whatever. I. Want. No matter what anyone says. I don’t even frequently duel, I’m a small man havoc guy that often disrupts duel circles for lols and starting fights. But the amazing arrogance seen here from “real wvwers” is hilarious. Don’t want to wait in queue? Get here sooner stupid, I’m still playing with my slot in EB/BL.
And zergers can gank duelers idc. Just remember they are often a much higher skill level than your average zergling. Don’t complain when they start picking off your tail and back line.
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With so many get out of jail…and the ability to cross the map in half the time of other profession…it’s extremely hard to pretend that thief requires any mechanical or special knowledge
Your only job as thief is to decap empty point and +2 people…you have the best mobility in the game, you have the ability to get the kitten out whenever you want …no matter the number of opponents and unless you’re a total moron….
Is even possible to fail at thief?…ha yes, maybe the try hard that try to 1vs1 specs that go bunker as it’s the only thing they can do, lacking stealth or shortbow teleport, losing to specs that are forced to go full ham on tank role as they can’t stealth and run away at will.
It must be incredibly hard to learn how to avoid dmg..when half the enemy team won’t even try to chase/follow or even target you..tell me more how hard is to play thief..
Guess that to avoid aoe skills that are not even directed at you..must be the hardest thing in this game -_-
Not surprisingly , every time a thief try to play a profession that they think requires no skill..they fail majestically lol, must be hard to talk when you can’t run away at will, you haven’t got either the stealth or mobility to do so
Sorry, but you’re wrong. Maybe you should actually play one. My thief is by far my hardest toon to play effectively.
Hardest relatively to what? bunkers?
I believe all burst builds show less sustain respect to builds created with the purpose of staying alive for as long as possible, therefore the thief is the hardest respect to what? other burst builds?
Did you actually try to play another burst build that is not thief? Using the same amulet that’s it which is Marauder and not Paladin. In this regard the thief becomes the easiest one by a mile
When trying to make comparisons do take in consideration all of the aspect involved, giving for granted the amulet used by the compared builds..it’s not really fair and neither logical to do so
Can we see your thief gameplay?
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The team comp that pulls this off efficiently is any comp with a decent mesmer and revenant which is pretty much any competitive team comp anyway. Experienced players will win the 2on1 consistently and fast enough to make it worth it.
Any class will lose to a +1 encounter. I fear the meta will be Druid + Rev + Thief because the game has less condi pressure. Thanks to Anet nerfs, these classes are stronger.
Everyone thought S2 would be the burst meta and we were all wrong about that.
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I Bought Hot – Revenant | [QQ]
With so many get out of jail…and the ability to cross the map in half the time of other profession…it’s extremely hard to pretend that thief requires any mechanical or special knowledge
Your only job as thief is to decap empty point and +2 people…you have the best mobility in the game, you have the ability to get the kitten out whenever you want …no matter the number of opponents and unless you’re a total moron….
Is even possible to fail at thief?…ha yes, maybe the try hard that try to 1vs1 specs that go bunker as it’s the only thing they can do, lacking stealth or shortbow teleport, losing to specs that are forced to go full ham on tank role as they can’t stealth and run away at will.
It must be incredibly hard to learn how to avoid dmg..when half the enemy team won’t even try to chase/follow or even target you..tell me more how hard is to play thief..
Guess that to avoid aoe skills that are not even directed at you..must be the hardest thing in this game -_-
Not surprisingly , every time a thief try to play a profession that they think requires no skill..they fail majestically lol, must be hard to talk when you can’t run away at will, you haven’t got either the stealth or mobility to do so
Can we see your thief gameplay?
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I Bought Hot – Revenant | [QQ]
Rev doesn’t seem very powerful at all to me, I’ve been soloing then with my warrior using nothing but a long bow.
Ha, ha! I think that’s the point. They fall pretty fast to Sw/T – A/D, but they deserve it for having such broken OP abilities. I can’t begin to tell you how frustrating it is to be pulled out of your well timed evasive skill by some noob who pressed 5 on rev staff at the wrong time. How is it skill when you can’t evade?
Evade into the rev or to the side, not backwards. This is not a hard attack to dodge once you see it coming, and revs often make it VERY obvious.
Agreed, it’s not hard to dodge, but it is bugged and rips you out of dodge skills and evasive skills half the time. I’ve had it rip me out of SW-3, SW-2, and D-4. It once rubber banded me out of Sw-2 and put me right in the line of attack to take full damage.
So, fix that, or let them curl up and roast under condition pressure. I vote for the latter.
Never experienced a bug with evading Staff 5 ever yet.
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As soon as we got into our map on reset everyone was wondering where the ET guys were and was very excited to finally play with new people.
ET we hope you guys will come out to play and hopefully we can build some strong friendships. I know the ques suck but its only really that bad on reset nights.
Please try and get in contact with us so we can communicate the problems we may have and get them sorted out.
For the record, we weren’t being intentionally antisocial. We tried to get in, queued for one of the BLs as soon as it opened, but I only know of one person that actually made it. I think most of us gave up around midnight.
Needless to say, everyone (that was talking on TS) is pretty mad at Anet for essentially robbing us of a reset night. That’s the best night down in T8, IMO. No queues at all, but plenty of people to kill. Think they need to go back to the drawing board and come up with a plan that accounts for population spikes without shutting people out.
Is that what you all were worried about? That in T8 reset night is the only alive night? Trust me bro, you’ll have people to kill all week. T1 weekdays will be better than your T8 reset.
I think you’ve misunderstood. Just trying to provide context into what we’re used to in T8 (and why a lot of us are there). We’re used to being able to move freely between maps, even at peak population. What worries me is that I don’t think we’ll ever have that level of freedom under these beta matchups—EB, at least, will always be queued, and I’m not okay with that. The guild I’m in spent some time on a T4 server before moving back to ET, with constant EB queues being a major factor in the decision. And now here we are, forced into T1, unable to even play on what’s usually the guild’s best night of the week. (To be clear, I don’t blame BG for this, and I don’t think anyone on ET does. I blame Anet’s implementation of world linking.)
I mean, EB queue is 11 in the middle of Saturday afternoon. If that’s really unbearable idk what to tell you. This is what WvW SHOULD look like when its not dead.
It was more than 150 when the guild wanted to get in. If it’s still queued when it isn’t even prime time, I don’t foresee us ever getting to play there, which is sad.
I don’t see how queues could ever be construed as a good thing. Queues mean people that want to play aren’t getting to play. That’s just going to drive them away.
And I and many others have said: last night was an anomaly.
An 11 queue and you can’t see yourselves playing there?? Dude that’s like 5 minutes get a grip. It is 6 right now.
Queues mean people are playing the game and the borderlands are actually inhabited.
If it’s 6 now, it’s going to be a lot more during prime time. I had some guildies go an hour without moving up that far last night—it’s only five minutes if 6 people leave in five minutes, and it’s usually a squad of 15-20 we’re trying to get in, so if there’s a queue at all at the start of the night, we’re probably not going to wait.
Queues mean people that want to play can’t. They’ll get frustrated and quit. The queues will eventually go away as a result, but that won’t necessarily make them come back, and we’ll end up with underpopulated servers again. They need to find a way to fix this without driving people away with queues.
I would rather deal with queues than the dead game we’ve been having for months. My guild has had the most fun they’ve ever had in a long time, and we mostly look for fights.
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I Bought Hot – Revenant | [QQ]
As soon as we got into our map on reset everyone was wondering where the ET guys were and was very excited to finally play with new people.
ET we hope you guys will come out to play and hopefully we can build some strong friendships. I know the ques suck but its only really that bad on reset nights.
Please try and get in contact with us so we can communicate the problems we may have and get them sorted out.
For the record, we weren’t being intentionally antisocial. We tried to get in, queued for one of the BLs as soon as it opened, but I only know of one person that actually made it. I think most of us gave up around midnight.
Needless to say, everyone (that was talking on TS) is pretty mad at Anet for essentially robbing us of a reset night. That’s the best night down in T8, IMO. No queues at all, but plenty of people to kill. Think they need to go back to the drawing board and come up with a plan that accounts for population spikes without shutting people out.
Is that what you all were worried about? That in T8 reset night is the only alive night? Trust me bro, you’ll have people to kill all week. T1 weekdays will be better than your T8 reset.
I think you’ve misunderstood. Just trying to provide context into what we’re used to in T8 (and why a lot of us are there). We’re used to being able to move freely between maps, even at peak population. What worries me is that I don’t think we’ll ever have that level of freedom under these beta matchups—EB, at least, will always be queued, and I’m not okay with that. The guild I’m in spent some time on a T4 server before moving back to ET, with constant EB queues being a major factor in the decision. And now here we are, forced into T1, unable to even play on what’s usually the guild’s best night of the week. (To be clear, I don’t blame BG for this, and I don’t think anyone on ET does. I blame Anet’s implementation of world linking.)
I mean, EB queue is 11 in the middle of Saturday afternoon. If that’s really unbearable idk what to tell you. This is what WvW SHOULD look like when its not dead.
It was more than 150 when the guild wanted to get in. If it’s still queued when it isn’t even prime time, I don’t foresee us ever getting to play there, which is sad.
I don’t see how queues could ever be construed as a good thing. Queues mean people that want to play aren’t getting to play. That’s just going to drive them away.
And I and many others have said: last night was an anomaly.
An 11 queue and you can’t see yourselves playing there?? Dude that’s like 5 minutes get a grip. It is 6 right now.
Queues mean people are playing the game and the borderlands are actually inhabited.
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They fall pretty fast to Sw/T – A/D, but they deserve it for having such broken OP abilities. I can’t begin to tell you how frustrating it is to be pulled out of your well timed evasive skill by some noob who pressed 5 on rev staff at the wrong time. How is it skill when you can’t evade?