Guild Wars 2

I actually own this skin and I’m happy I don’t get to keep it as is. That would be a horrible decision.

Sorry, I received the distinct impression the OP was using the “sell everything in the gem shop since nothing is off limits anymore” irony that became prevalent in different threads about the flamekissed armor.

TL;DR I don’t think the OP actually wanted Anet to sell legendary footprints in the gem shop.

This just in:

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

Hey, everyone. We’ve been reading all your feedback about the Flamekissed Armor Skin that was released into the Gem Store yesterday.

Although the Flamekissed Armor uses the same mesh as the Tier 3 Human Cultural Armor, it was not our intention to create an armor skin that so closely matched the existing Tier 3 Human Cultural armor set. The intention was to use the mesh as a basis for creating an armor set that stands apart and is distinct in appearance. However, after reading your feedback, we agree that the Flamekissed armor is not visually distinct enough from Human Cultural Tier 3 armor.

We will do a few things to address this issue.

• We will temporarily remove Flamekissed Armor Skin from the Gem Store.
• Players who have purchased Flamekissed Armor Skin will keep the skin.
• We will make new art for the Flamekissed Armor Skin that achieves our goal of making a visually distinct and attractive armor set and does not closely resemble the Human Tier 3 Cultural armor.
• Once this new artwork is completed, we will then update the Flamekissed Armor Skin so that all existing sets that players have purchased get the new art. We will also offer the Flamekissed Armor Skin for sale again at that time.
• When we update the Flamekissed Armor Skins with the new artwork, any player that has already purchased the set and who does not like the new, updated look, can get a full refund by contacting Customer Support.

Note that there is no ETA on when this change will happen. We need to work with the Character Art Team to determine when we can have a new armor skin ready, and this could take some time.

Thank you everyone for providing your feedback. We appreciate that you took the time to let us know how you feel about the new armor set.

/delete thread.

This just in:

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

Hey, everyone. We’ve been reading all your feedback about the Flamekissed Armor Skin that was released into the Gem Store yesterday.

Although the Flamekissed Armor uses the same mesh as the Tier 3 Human Cultural Armor, it was not our intention to create an armor skin that so closely matched the existing Tier 3 Human Cultural armor set. The intention was to use the mesh as a basis for creating an armor set that stands apart and is distinct in appearance. However, after reading your feedback, we agree that the Flamekissed armor is not visually distinct enough from Human Cultural Tier 3 armor.

We will do a few things to address this issue.

• We will temporarily remove Flamekissed Armor Skin from the Gem Store.
• Players who have purchased Flamekissed Armor Skin will keep the skin.
• We will make new art for the Flamekissed Armor Skin that achieves our goal of making a visually distinct and attractive armor set and does not closely resemble the Human Tier 3 Cultural armor.
• Once this new artwork is completed, we will then update the Flamekissed Armor Skin so that all existing sets that players have purchased get the new art. We will also offer the Flamekissed Armor Skin for sale again at that time.
• When we update the Flamekissed Armor Skins with the new artwork, any player that has already purchased the set and who does not like the new, updated look, can get a full refund by contacting Customer Support.

Note that there is no ETA on when this change will happen. We need to work with the Character Art Team to determine when we can have a new armor skin ready, and this could take some time.

Thank you everyone for providing your feedback. We appreciate that you took the time to let us know how you feel about the new armor set.

Regina, again you made a good, no, you made a great call. Rock on.
/faith restored.

People are upset because an important marker has been crossed. Basically, Anet could go to here, there, and there, but no further than that. Immersion breaking is part of it, trust and defined expectations another.

The only two skins that really had a clear marker “STAY AWAY” were 1) cultural armor and 2) legendaries. They still meant something. So what’s next? Reskinned legendaries? I’m serious here, is that up for grabs as well? Because the road leading there suddenly seems awfully short. And hey, wouldn’t a flaming Juggernaut look great? Only 800 gems and it’s yours.

This (crrraaazzzyyy) thread is duplicative:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/bltc/Happy-with-Flamekissed-Set/first#post3271130
Please merge?

I agree with the rollback proposal. I actually bought the item, but it just felt too cheap so I stuffed it in my bank.

If race restricted highly expensive armor can be treated like this, reskinned legendaries could just as well be next. And I’m not even joking. This goes to the heart of the game’s core design. Immersive gameplay? This is the way to break that concept in half.

Sooooo these are still in the chests I presume? I mean they’re really clubbing on this market with a blunt hammer at this point. It was fun while it lasted and all, and sure it was a good move at first, but now it’s just bunkers.

It’s almost like that Matrix movie, except here it’s Caithe and Scarlet basically copying themselves infinitely. That whole market is in complete shambles now.

You can basically replace the vial of condensed essence (fractals) with 250 bloodstone dust (champions) in all non-infused back item recipes you see on wiki.

Pay to win what, exactly?

Pure PvP has been kept “pure” thus far (t/spvp). You (and your team) do well, you win. Your glorious prowess is shown on the leaderboard. Nothing in the gemstore to help you there.

WvW is so zergy I’d say it barely matters. Both sides will have low level people running around in greens, it all evens out eventually. Besides that, there is no personal WvW leaderboard, it’s only your world as a whole that counts. So only if your world “wins”, you “win”.

Those are the only two PvP related activities I know in GW2 which traditionally are considered to determine whether “P2W” exists.

In Aion, every sale had a name to it, for all to see. So you could exactly check who sold what at what price. This would make the TP a bit more clunky, but with the recent bot activity I would be all in favor of it. It never led to spam or privacy concerns in Aion, but that’s just my personal experience. However.

I should add that characters could not be traced to their unique ID name in Aion, so alts could offer all the privacy you needed for trading. That’s not the case in GW2, so an adapted form of TP ID would likely be necessary. Something like a unique TP ID which can only be linked to an account name by Anet staff. If you then see that ID on a whole range of items, constantly updating bids at the speed of light, it would be much easier to identify it as a TP botter. As an added bonus to the traders: they can exchange ID’s to not hinder eachother in their trading. So it leads to both increased TP cooperation/monopolization and transparency at the same time. I’m a big fan of transparency though, so that would ultimately outweigh my concerns on adding (coded) unique identities to items sold on the TP.

Just my initial non-exhaustive thoughts on this; I know I probably missed volumes of other important factors to be considered.

DarkSpirit.7046:

Buttercup.5871:

It’s all automatically checked – and sometimes automatically incremented – by programs.

If ArenaNet allows it, then who are you to say otherwise? Also why do you think that they have released an official API which has been giving third party programs and websites even further advantages?

The programs and websites have been free and publicly available, if you choose not to use them yourself then don’t blame others who do. Learn to take responsibility for your own decisions rather than throwing a tantrum on the floor and crying “not fair!”

Wait, what? I’m the one who is taking the hard path remember? I chose not to cheat. I will not use several scripts to scan the entire TP for me. You chose that road. So if anyone should be taking responsibility in this debate, in which it is plain to see for everyone that you’ve created a huge advantage over players that don’t use such programs, it’s you. I’ll remind you of some the questions you should be asking yourself constantly, despite having provided them in my earlier links above:

“Our general policy is that anything that gives advantage is forbidden; anything that imbalances the game in favor of one player over another is strictly disallowed.”

Mmmmm. Let’s see. Yes those scripts/programs do.

“Does this program allow someone to play faster, better, longer, or more accurately than someone who doesn’t use it?”

Yes. The “faster” part is the give-away here. You thought 16 seconds to a) check all current buy offers, b) remove all buy orders that were no longer first in queue, and c) replace them with new ones – was’t even fast enough! You said that was slow, lol! Yea I know that was for a botter, but it just means the scripts that you write are even worse in calculating power when analyzing the TP for you.

Better? Heck yea, as those programs scan the entire TP for you, spotting, calculating and alerting you to opportunities on the fly. You couldn’t even do that yourself in game if you tried, especially not at that speed.

Try not to lecture me on responsibility, and I’ll avoid lecturing you of what those are. Because this is just a fraction of the stuff you signed up for. The user agreement is even more explicit.

tolunart.2095:

Your ideal solution may make you feel better, but it doesn’t work in practice. The buy offers don’t even work like an auction – the “high bidder” may get his item first, but if someone is selling three copies of an item than the top three offers are filled. You’ll get it eventually, the buy offer system is for those who are willing to wait a while to get a better deal. If speed is important to you, then cough up the extra coin to buy the cheapest sell offer and you’re guaranteed to get the item right away.

I wish it worked that way. You know, that world you describe of “just waiting”. It doesn’t. Not anymore. It’s all automatically checked – and sometimes automatically incremented – by programs. You don’t have a program? Go and sit on the item and keep watching, or no candy for you. You’ll be paying the full amount, and guess what, you’ll be paying it to the guy that beat you to it with his program and who’s now selling it 1 copper below the lowest seller.

DarkSpirit.7046:

Risingashes.8694:

As to your point on the irrelevence between 1c or 5s overcutting, the point is that the limit should be percentage based. If you undercut by 0.5% then that’s competition, complaining about that is just sour grapes. But currently the price of undercutting is 0.00000001%- that may as well be 0%, and that’s simply unfair.

The OP’s suggestion doesn’t work. If the limit is 5% of the selling price of say 1s, then it is only 5c. If 1c is not a significant increment, is 5c then a significant one? I don’t think so.

And happens if the selling price is just 20c, 5% increment then you brings you back to 1c increment, a full circle.

And at higher prices, it destroys flipping market due to the higher increment. Setting it up as a fixed percentage (5%) of the selling price doesn’t work in all situations.

Yes let’s only judge this idea for what it does to the 20 copper to 1 silver range, when it was intended to fix an entire system, be it 1 silver, 100 gold or 3000 gold.

5 percent is 5 percent. Five copper on a 1 silver deal is still a big thing, yes. Especially if you’re trading 20 thousand pieces of them.

Back on topic, as I will now ignore comments from Dark to avoid further clutter of this thread, I think the 1 copper system is OK in a world without third party TP notifiers, scripts and autobidders. That’s not the TP we operate on though, so I agree the 1 copper increment system merits an overhaul.

The answer as to why Anet didn’t say anything on zicore is in the paragraph you quoted. Anet said enough in the various legal instruments you agreed to. I’m sticking to those.

Go ahead and cheat all those people that never visit a forum and don’t know there are cheat programs out there they can use; and even then, when they use those programs, the playing field isn’t level because their programmers use more advanced functions they don’t release and keep to themselves to maximize profit. It’s a dirty shady world, and I want no part of it.

They can’t “disallow” these programs openly because they can’t enforce it without a complete overhaul of the TP, and you know it Darkspirit. In fact you know it so well that you have several scripts running at all times to cheat everyone in the most efficient way. A cheat is a cheat, I don’t care about what Arenanet doesn’t say, I care about the contracts I sign.

Actually Qualyn hits home hard. He explains why those that use 3rd party programs to analyze the entire TP cheat. They skip the line. They don’t offer more, 1 copper on X gold isn’t more, they offer the same; their advantage is having cheating tools to quickly cheat the line. And no, the response time of those programs/scripts is not 15 minutes. Darkspirit himself, a programmer of such scripts, said it in another thread, where he considered a bot response time of 16 seconds incredibly slow.

And don’t tell me to also use a 3rd party program, I know for a fact that it violates the user agreement I signed.

DarkSpirit.7046:

First of all, there is absolutely nothing wrong with people standing around the TP all day.

I agree with this statement. It becomes though blurred once you know some of them have several scripts running to analyze the entire TP for maximum profit opportunities.

Vetrie.7804:

So, whats so awesomke about current LS?? Please tell me becouse I have a hard time having fun with this crappy LS atm. Its boring, made for 10 year old children.

No. Just no. While I am in awe of the OP’s constructive suggestions, these kind of comments (10 year old etc) are out of place. Keep it constructive, don’t degrade the awesomeness of this thread with unwarranted vile which adds nothing.

I really hope a dev will pop his/her head here, even if it’s just to compliment the OP on the sheer work that went into this and on the constructive attitude that is neigh unparalleled on this or any MMO forum.

Lampshade.7569:

Now back to the real problem – flipping being the best moneymaking process in GW2.

And I still say DR is the culprit of that. Skill-based rewards could help, too. I remember I completely dropped flipping until I had bested Liadri with my kitten ranger. The lack of good, consistent rewards in PvE is the only reason the comparison between playing the game and flipping is out of whack.

There is one other culprit though in the TP corner ruining the game for all of us; the third party TP programs. They go by the name of Zicore or Gold Wars, but there are several out there. And then there’s of course the scores of people who are running their own little scripts to analyze the entire TP within the blink of an eye for maximum profit. Some modified them into bots. I say they all come down to the same thing: cheating. One is just a little less automated than the other.

danielrjones.8759:

I could be wrong, certainly won’t be the first time. But gonna have to disagree with you in some parts Buttercup. Yes I believe they will make the hunt very grindy. But I believe once people see there is the possibility to acquire one, they will work on it. Recalling how people played gw1, some of those titles required couple hundred hours of grind each, yet many people did it just for the title.
I think once people see a progression from playing the game to acquire a pre, more will do that. I also think many people that already have a legendary will go for the pre hunt, then we need to consider. If the hunt is tied into some ap rewards 1000’s more will pursue that more for the points. The pre hunt has the ability to appeal to many people on different levels.
Not trying to troll or start an argument, just a difference of opinion.

You’re right, and I had considered that, but my current thinking is that Anet will have a counter-measure to alleviate the t6 market, as they’ve always done thus far. That’s why I said the t6 blood will be out of whack again (40’ish silver or more), as no measure they implement, even another southsun or arena farmfest, could suppress the demand for those once ascended armor crafting goes live. Everyone wants berserker first, it’s simple. And everyone wants mighty infusions as well, if that system continues to exist. Add precursor crafting and t6 blood will go nuts. But I’m pretty confident they’ll have a solution for the rest of the t6 fine crafting materials, which means some of those will simply remain to hover around the current prices, and some will go down.

But your word is as good as mine, it’s all up in the air. I’m just predicting stuff based on what I’ve seen thus far. I don’t think I’ve been wrong before with these expectations/guesstimates, but that could be my selective memory playing its part.

I’m just wondering: almost all screenshots I’v seen thus far of people crafting precursors are warriors. It’s scary really. And this guy uses a MF booster + MF food. Wonder if there is anything to it.

If there was any leaking, it’s more likely that someone “spilled the beans” on changes in cooking, given the heavy activity in those mats this last week. I can’t yet place the heavy speculation + manipulation on those yet, but I’m sure I’m missing something.

Buttercup.5871:

The oldest, known, clipping bug in the history of GW2 is still here.

Race: Norn
Gender: female
Weapon: any offhand weapon

Attached is a screenshot that I posted on this forum in May as well. This was the link.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Extreme-clipping-with-fused-dagger

Yea, my fused dagger is inside my knee. Any off-hand weapon will be inside your left knee. People that wield Howler on their female Norn have reported this for months and months. Most of the time, they can’t see their legendary because it’s inside their leg.

Any update on this yet? I have reporting this since March. Any expensive offhand is a waste for female Norns as it will be inside their knee most of the time.

I experienced the same thing on my Norn ranger last week. It’s particularly bad if it happens in WvW because logging or changing maps means another 2 hour queue.

I first did Volcanus and then my legendary. Never regretted it. I use Volcanus a lot more, too.
If you are planning to get it wait until fractured hits (influx of molten/destroyer cores + lodestones).

Bad idea. Precursor hunts will take lots of time, and will mostly be interesting to those that already have the rest. Ascended armor leveling will be snowflake crafting and crafting with insignias you can salvage from eg dungeon armor (see wiki, not new info). Yes t6 blood will rise but that will virtually be the only one that won’t be able to keep up.

Anet has a trackrecord of thinking of solutions to these things in advance through the content they release. Even now, the toxic content led to a mass influx of the materials we were short of for ascended armor crafting (linen, cotton, wool). Don’t kid yourselves.

Sell them soon Yumi. You can probably figure out what happens when 100k people start doing fractals. The dredge fractal alone will flood us with zillions of heavy miner’s bags. These prices are nice to a rich few, but it is impossible for them to stay this high when fractured goes live.

Most constructive post I have ever seen. In any MMO.
In the last 10 years.
I’m awestruck.

Big Tower.5423:

50 million backstab on a rabbit.

While you’re using a fictitious number, I once actively catapulted rabbits to see how high I could go. I remember it being somewhere in the 270k range but it’s a long while ago. I should try and treb a rabbit once. For science!

These will tank once ascended armor crafting is introduced. Basically all luxury goods (such as minis and skins, and dyes) will plummet around that time as it sucks gold from the economy like a giant vacuum cleaner. And it isn’t even that logical because with new armors people want new colors. But it’s still what will happen.

I remember those sigil being the first time I “invested” in something. Boy was that a good decision, buying them at 12 to 14 silver each.

DarkSpirit.7046:

TP bots though possible, are rare.

DarkSpirit.7046:

Cancelling a buy order would work well if the bot has a way of getting the gold back from the npc. This implies some kind of UI automation also which is not a straight-forward task.

DarkSpirit.7046:

Doesn’t work if the bot has UI driving functionality to take its money back from the trading post NPC after canceling its bids. I am sure many bots already have that feature since it is easy to implement.

Error. Cannot compute.

Clark Skinner.4902:

I also urge posters to stop trying to reason with DarkSpirit. He/she isn’t trying to come to an understanding or be constructive, just looking to argue about something online and troll you all. The lack of logic in his/her arguments won’t hold credibility with Anet who is reading all of the good feedback we are giving. So to best keep the thread easy-to-read for them, and free of arguments over trivial details, I suggest scrolling down to the next post when you see that particular account name (at least until a block user feature is implemented).

And this. I will follow your advice from now on Clark. Thank you.

Of course I wasn’t suggesting wiretapping lol! In my country, by law, even the secret service can’t do that without permission from the ministry of justice (no wiki leaks yet to prove the contrary).

What I will suggest is that if they find out that you post about your cheating on a third party forum, and/or they find out through reports of other players that you have been cheating, they need not disclose that information to you, they can just terminate your account.

I thought the massive buy-out was a result of ascended crafting coming. People that want ascended celestial gear will realize they need three stacks of quartz for a single armor set.

But maybe Clark is right, in which case I’d expect an investigation of the accounts that bought more than 100k quartz during that period. That’s not spying btw, anything you say and do in the game can have consequences for your account. Bluntly put, you have very little to no rights when it comes to decisions regarding your account.

Alissah.9281:

Yamagawa.5941:

“zomg, every time I pale a bid in a game with millions of live, human players, an disallowed program is outbidding me. It can’t be other players because its always outbidding me promptly by a small amount and a round quantity.”

This statement had so much truth in it, I had to spend a whole hour lying to people to balance it all out :/.

The thing is, YOU are not the only person trying to get buy orders filled. If you want an item now and that badly, just buy them out from sellers.

You’re completely derailing the issue. Programmers in this thread confirm they’ve tested putting a bot on the TP sucessfully. If you had read this thread, you would have seen that I and others have personally witnessed a bot, live, removing its buy offer and placing an identical new one virtually at the same time – in other words: at a speed no human could possibly do this in-game. I invite you to do that within 1/4 of a second. You can’t. No one can. And it wasn’t just done once: this impossible trick was performed repeatedly and consistently, before my and everyone’s eyes, whenever you would place a buy order on said item.

Had you read the threads linked by others, you would have seen that every programmer acknowledges that it’s even easy to run a bot. Already 6 monts ago, darkspirit said it himself:

DarkSpirit.7046:

Just because many of us have the technical knowledge to write our own bots doesn’t mean we do. They are not that difficult to write and at a minimum, anyone who knows how to write an autoit script can create a simple bot to buy/sell on the TP. You don’t even need to know a real programming language.

DarkSpirit.7046:

I have already seen selling bots mentioned on the internet by bot writers with details on how it works. […] Bot writers have already written harnesses that expose these function points to plugged-in bot modules.

Or what about Ryan, who raised the ethical side of automated trading when he wrote a program that could automate buy orders:

Ryan.9387:

I can guarantee you that people have created bots that monitor and auto update buy orders in game. I don’t do that myself. I give my program a list of items, and it buys them. All I avoid is having to type the individual names into the TP window. […] I could also create a program to monitor the time it takes for me to be over cut to prove that extreme botting exists, but the time spent confirming something I am 99% sure of is better used elsewhere. […] While I could easily create a program to auto update my buy/sell orders I don’t consider that fair at all.

Or Clark:

Clark Skinner.4902:

[…] And it’s the autobidders that are cheating. People are doing it 24/7. A minute or so after they are outbid, their old bid is removed and a new one is replaced. There are one or two bots dominating areas of the market that others can’t come close to competing with. It is automating in-game actions, getting an advantage over other players by doing things that take time with the slow UI, and can be done at the same time as doing other in-game activities. It’s solid cheating and it’s being completely ignored by Anet, unless it’s them doing it.

The list goes on and on. These are programmers that know their stuff. The only programmer that doens’t want to stop this process is Darkspirit, in order to advance a personal agenda – as linked in this thread. The other programmers have been telling us for months that botting is real, and that their impact on the market is massive.

DarkSpirit.7046:

Buttercup.5871:

DarkSpirit.7046:

Buttercup.5871:

DarkSpirit.7046:

Buttercup.5871:

Wow that was fast! Hahaha, exactly like you said, I counted the seconds as well.
Well, I’m saying haha but on the inside I cry a little.

Thank you, with enough preparation and training, anyone can be fast too.

Dark, you must be joking right? You’re really grasping at anything to defend your automated moneymaking now. Look, when you do what he says, you’ll see that – around the 16 second mark – the order for 9 of these will be removed and placed 1 copper above you almost instantaniously. That’s not possible Dark, no matter how hard you try to justify it. It’s a bot. You know it’s a bot. I know it’s a bot. What are we even discussing here?

So are you saying that there are 9 orders from 9 bots waiting to buy the same item? I find that highly unlikely.

Dark, come on. What he’s saying is simple, but I’ll try to explain it more explicitly since you’re unwilling to test it yourself.

The bot places an order for 9 axes. ONE order. You out-buy-order him by 1 copper.
16 seconds pass.
BOOM. His buy order for 9 axes disappears and reappears 1 copper above you at the same time.

If it is such an OP bot, shouldn’t it be responding much faster than 16 seconds? 16s feels more like a slow human response to me.

Dark, you’re grasping at straws now. Stop defending the undefendable. Stop defending bots. They are there. You know it. Stop trying to protect your little moneymaking program at all cost. Noone can instantly remove a buy order and place one at the same time. The interface is too clunky for that, it cannot be done. Yet this bot will do it, live, every time, around 16 seconds after you have placed the highest buy order on that axe.

I’m off to bed now, I’ll read the rest in the morning.

again, for those new in this thread, it’s been tested by programmers in this thread that botting can be done. If you want to witness the results of botting yourself, live, start by following red squirrel’s instructions.

DarkSpirit.7046:

Buttercup.5871:

DarkSpirit.7046:

Buttercup.5871:

Wow that was fast! Hahaha, exactly like you said, I counted the seconds as well.
Well, I’m saying haha but on the inside I cry a little.

Thank you, with enough preparation and training, anyone can be fast too.

Dark, you must be joking right? You’re really grasping at anything to defend your automated moneymaking now. Look, when you do what he says, you’ll see that – around the 16 second mark – the order for 9 of these will be removed and placed 1 copper above you almost instantaniously. That’s not possible Dark, no matter how hard you try to justify it. It’s a bot. You know it’s a bot. I know it’s a bot. What are we even discussing here?

So are you saying that there are 9 orders from 9 bots waiting to buy the same item? I find that highly unlikely.

Dark, come on. What he’s saying is simple, but I’ll try to explain it more explicitly since you’re unwilling to test it yourself.

The bot places an order for 9 axes. ONE order. You out-buy-order him by 1 copper.
16 seconds pass.
BOOM. His buy order for 9 axes disappears and reappears 1 copper above you at the same time.

DarkSpirit.7046:

Buttercup.5871:

Wow that was fast! Hahaha, exactly like you said, I counted the seconds as well.
Well, I’m saying haha but on the inside I cry a little.

Thank you, with enough preparation and training, anyone can be fast too.

Dark, you must be joking right? You’re really grasping at anything to defend your automated moneymaking now. Look, when you do what he says, you’ll see that – around the 16 second mark – the order for 9 of these will be removed and placed 1 copper above you almost instantaniously. That’s not possible Dark, no matter how hard you try to justify it. It’s a bot. You know it’s a bot. I know it’s a bot. What are we even discussing here?

The Red Squirrel.7039:

Found an interesting one just now:

http://www.gw2tp.com/item/25970-rampagers-axe-of-water

Put a bid on that, and spam refresh, and you’ll see that within about 15 seconds, the buy order for 9 of them will disappear and reappear above yours. Now try duplicating his response time. You’ll find that you can’t with the current TP interface because first you’d have to bring up your buy order page, find the item, and remove it. Then, you’d have to search for it again to place your new bid.

Careful observation prove there are bots, because the in-game TP interface is too cumbersome to be that agile. BTW, this is the fastest response time I’ve seen on a bot so far.

Wow that was fast! Hahaha, exactly like you said, I counted the seconds as well.
Well, I’m saying haha but on the inside I cry a little.

Aberrant.6749:

IMO alert programs give an unfair advantage and automate what a player would be doing.

Player 1 having one doesn’t have to check the TP, the program does that for him.
Player 2 that doesn’t have one would need to constantly scroll through listings.

That’s kinda messed up.

I so, so wholeheartedly agree. This is also the reason why I have argued, referencing the relevant clauses, that use of them violates the very core of the user agreement. But I don’t want to stray off course. That is:

People in this thread confirmed – and tested – that you can use a bot to trade for you on the TP, from in- and outside the game, and it’s not even that complicated to do so.

To me, the significance of that is pretty huge. Sorry for the bold + lines and stuff but it needs attention. I’m sick of people thinking this is not really a problem. It’s a huge problem, and it won’t go away either by simply ignoring or downplaying its existence.

Flash.6912:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

We fixed a number of bugs and made lots of balance changes to existing fractals. Also the difficulty scaling has been tweaked overall to create a slightly less difficult curve up to 50.

The weapons are skins now.

Ascended armor is not in the game right now, but if it was, it would drop in the Fractals.

So that means no Ascended armors for fracs update?

They haven’t announced ascended armor crafting yet, so he could not say more than this. I read this as a hint that it is coming with the next patch, not the other way around. Makes complete sense to me anyway, since the core of the ascended tier started with FotM. How can you start a leaderboard and change the rules of the game (ie introduce ascended armor with better stats and infusion slots) midway?

It’s not available now, but I’m betting it will be through the guild commendation vendor, similar to what they did with the sentinel inscriptions when ascended weaponcrafting was introduced. I’m usually right with my guesstimates, but please don’t bank on it.

This just in:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

We fixed a number of bugs and made lots of balance changes to existing fractals. Also the difficulty scaling has been tweaked overall to create a slightly less difficult curve up to 50.

The weapons are skins now.

Ascended armor is not in the game right now, but if it was, it would drop in the Fractals.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/fractured/Fractured-Pro-Con-Suggestion-Thread/first#post3228388

I don’t how many more hints they can drop that ascended armor is coming soon.
If you’ve read this thread, you now know where the glut on materials will likely be.

Aberrant.6749:

But those are for weaponcrafting, not armorcrafting. They won’t help with getting to 500 armorcrafting. If they were 450 armorcrafting now no one would be able to make them since it’s capped at 400. The only stuffs for armorcrafting from this event are the runes (400).

You’re right. I guess it’s refining ascended materials for that (450-475) level range then. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if they introduced something else there. But you are right.

Edit 1: you responded to a post I deleted as I saw I had misunderstood your message

Edit 2: if you’re like me you should already have about 40 spools to craft elonian leather squares lined up for that level range specifically. But I’m a bit of a nerd in that sense. It’s not indicative for market prices at that time.

Lordbyron, it’s indeed bad, but not as bad as the wood log—> plank and ore —>ingot conversion, since you need “only” 2 instead of 3 raw materials to craft wool, cotton and linen bolts (although you do need 3 scraps for 1 silk bolt since recently).

Aberrant.6749:

Butter, the antitoxin rune recipes are all 400. The 450 stuffs are all oils/crystals/stones (weaponcrafting). Same with discovering cheap sigils->runes. I think you got confused there a lil bit.

I said toxic, not anti-toxic I did indeed mean the oils, crystals/stones, which I believe are all called “toxic” something something, no?

Yes, gossamer is overpriced. Remember it used to be one silver before the ascended armor announcements. No one needed gossamer then, and no one needs it now still. When the price won’t climb enough after heavy manipulation on the first night, there will be significant dumping.

Hardened leather squares, however… I’m pretty sure people will use these in great quantities to level up their leathersmithing and armorsmith to lvl 430 or so. After that, you use a tiny bit of gossamer for about 4 to 5 armor pieces, and you salvage dungeon armor for the new insignia (similar to weapon inscriptions, like rabid and shaman). Yes, these insignia are already in the game as codes and can even be found on wiki. Anyway, at 450 to 475 you use the refining + toxic recipes, and after that, another 5 pieces using inscriptions salvaged from dungeon armor or you craft cheap snowflake giver’s armor. Voila, you’re now lvl 500 and used under 100 pieces of gossamer scraps. I even left out a few other cheap options (such as exotic dirt cheap sigil crafting)

But, but, what will you do with those 3 stacks of gossamer scraps/bolts that you didn’t really need? That’s right, you sell it to buy wool, linen and cotton for the bolts of damask you’ll undoubtedly need in great quantities. Slowly of course, due to the time-gating, but you will need them eventually, especially if you have more than one character.