Guild Wars 2

Aggrostemma.1703:

Hi there!

try this out:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVQQNAW5dl8ApVo1CxdI8DNRCRldR8fBI2fQLUCXFAA-TlSDABOcQAMUJIMq/klSKqUi8kyBo2fAgLEgEPBgU0NQKAmUGB-w

2000 power
3000 armour
20k + HP
dodge roll heals 1000
absolute res: 523
symbols: 180 per sec

but…

you can scrap the half of this…

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVQQJAWRl8ApVo1CxdI8DNRCRldR8fBI2fQLUCXFAA-TlyGwAAuAA4VCKS9nlKpMqEJoyhDHCAX7PIRXAhnAApAYSZE-w

With GS you can hit like a truck with 2150 power (no stacks and might) decent armor: 2812+150
16800 HP + guard stacks.
dodge still heals for 950…
symbols: 172 heal
absolute res: 504

:D

I run something similar to your last build although I’m over 1,200 healing and I sport Defender runes. Mace / focus is good. If we are pushing then I’ll go mace shield.

Keksmuffin.1450:

“Counters

Well played condition engineer/necro
Well played S/D thieves"

I can kill engis with this build without mainhand weapons and you call it a counter to this build? wat

Also I think it’s pretty ridicolous that Greatsword is the default choice in this build, especially now that torch got buffed.

I think the build is still really niche and deserves a spot right next to condi mesmer, condi ele and other stupid 1v1 specs.

Add counter:

Ranger

Arken.3725:

Now it’s just a shell(no pun intended) of its former self.

I see what you did there.

If you haven’t already done so head into Obsidian Sanctum, clear logs, duel someone, and compare.

One of the glaring flaws is that the focus blocks better than the shield which makes absolutely zero sense outside the magical aspect on the focus.

Personally I see come expansion a few things needed:

1. Shield + Melee weapon block all incoming forward facing attacks (situational awareness)
2. Replace shield bubble / absorption with Wall of Reflection

Shield needs to block plain and simple and excel vs. melee combat. Of course with greater defense and survivability comes an adjustment down with offensive but that should be a choice which happens when one uses a shield…

Focus just makes no sense at all in the big picture outside the golden bombs of light and unicorns.

Guardian has to guard, Ranger has to range. Someone has to die.

My guess is that it wouldn’t be a good fit due to lower crit chance but has anyone tried superior sigil of incapacitation?

I use it on a few builds and love it. Probably wouldn’t work though in this case.

A lot of people don’t understand the trapper rune set. Out of the patch update in which the runes came, I feel Rangers got the best deal. I run a 2/6/6/0/0 version of this with LB. Rabid armor and weapons. I also run superior sigil of incapacitation.

Still tweaking the final set up since I am also using axe and torch but slowly swapping in axe and dagger combo as I become more familiar with the melee aspect of the ranger class. I stayed away from it for a while since I played it like I was on my Guardian

Alkuan.4962:

My 2 cents – tried this LB burst ranger, but wasn’t my playstyle. I’m still much of a melee ranger (and such should put on more surv as im on now in my spec).

But great that this game offers a chance to success in various playstyles!

(I grr, still hate the LB ranger I see in bg’s – it’s 1v1 instantly for me, just like in WoW, heh)

It is always interesting engaging a fellow ranger in the BG’s because most are running LB or so it seems. So if they are smart and you try to engage it can be deadly. I run a Short bow, axe, torch combo and find it frustrating sometimes to engage. But once I do close and we dance, I feel I have a 75% chance at that point to come out on top.

Some maps I’ll swap to LB like Sky Hammer and Courtyard but those maps are far and few between it seems.

Sorel.4870:

To develop a little, I think the ranger hate comes from two factors:

- Most rangers in spvp are total noobs. I’m scared every time I have one on my team. For one excellent condi survival ranger, I get at least 10 silly LB power rangers who completely ignore their other weapon set and get eaten by thieves cause they don’t know what to do once they are in melee range.

- Even when the ranger is good, it’s still infuriating to get killed at long range in one second, if you are already engaged in a fight.

- I like to play ranger from time to time, but for me and a lot of players, a ranged profession is in itself annoying. Don’t you just hate the sound of the SB AA and the Rapid Fire? Pew pew pew pew. But then again, it’s more of a personal problem. I can’t play elementalist because of the weird sound effects.

Yup – range class always gets hate. I remember the hate when I played my Runi in DaOC. Talking about range….

Medi Guardians are not that OP and you really shouldn’t struggle against one. Especially if you play one.

I’ve just started playing the PvP meta and I giggle every time I see one spooling up with focus 5 on my ranger. And I’m using a short bow…

Media Guardians are a all or nothing sort of play but once you start engaging in 1 v 2 combat, unless you are skilled, you will be eating dirt 9 out of 10 times. There are a few on these boards who I would place in that ‘skilled’ category (I’m not) that can play most trait combos and do well and look OP while doing it. But they play smart and shouldn’t be nerfed because they do.

Relentliss.2170:

I admit to being a huge sceptic of this build at first, but my win % does not lie. I am winning 60-70% of my games where before it was 30-40% on a Zerker or Bunker. Atm I feel like I can really affect the outcome of a game, where before I felt reliant on others. Even if people kill me I dish out wo much damage to them they are easy pickings for the next guy.

I know I may come across as ‘one of those guys’ but is your winning percentage for rated or unrated games? Honest question.

For example over the weekend I think I managed 56 or so games, unrated, and came out with about 36 wins and felt pretty good. Rated, I’d say it was the other way around. I lost more than I won.

Quality of players, maps, bad luck – not sure. Just know at the end of the day I had a higher win/loss ratio when playing in the unrated grounds. Maybe it doesn’t matter but figured I’d ask more so out of curiosity.

messiah.1908:

Crapgame.6519:

Your build might work in courtyard if there was another supporting team member.

Outside of fun, which is why we play, I don’t think it would do much. I have a burning / condi build set for my Guardian. Built after the new traits got released. Outside of PvE I just don’t get much satisfaction out of it in WvW or PvP. Solo roamer or point control.

I swapped him out for my condi/survival Ranger which does the job so much better.

i cant argue personal preference

No, neither of us can which is perfectly fine

ranger condi survival dont bring aoe dmg (direct and condi) like the guardian does
if i play tpvp (not tdm) and i have bunker guard with me we can take 2v3 unless engi come with his turrets
in 1v1 you can handle better then a ranger while holding the point

Actually Axe and Short Bow provide a bit of AOE which can ramp up the bleeds rather quickly but it does depend on how you use it. I run Axe/Dagger with SB. On the courtyard map I’ll switch to Long Bow, Axe, Torch. I also run Muddy Terrain with entangle.

If I had to pick one thing on my build it would be I never felt like I could survive compared to other Guardian builds. Truth be told I actually felt I could stay alive longer running full zerk as a Guardian – maybe because I knew going in it was all or nothing if you catch my meaning.

But hey – maybe you are on to something. Maybe not. Fun is all that matters.

Your build might work in courtyard if there was another supporting team member.

Outside of fun, which is why we play, I don’t think it would do much. I have a burning / condi build set for my Guardian. Built after the new traits got released. Outside of PvE I just don’t get much satisfaction out of it in WvW or PvP. Solo roamer or point control.

I swapped him out for my condi/survival Ranger which does the job so much better.

I’m not a pro at the Ranger and Lord knows I die so many times to all classes (I know why, more on that in a second) but here is my play. I run trapper runes. Honestly, I can get away from most players. Skilled players, its 50/50. But more often than not I can, and do, get away. Then it becomes the great race across the map until one or two things happen.

1. I mess up, they catch me.
2. I lead them to their death either by cliff, friends, or another enemy zerg.
3. They just catch me because they are skilled

I know I did well when they drop siege on me

Oh, back to I die a lot. I main a Guardian so, well, I melee like I’m one. You can’t on a ranger because, well, we don’t have as many tools So, when I swap weapons it isn’t a good thing I guess but heck, its fun. I run also chill and incapacitation sigils which also help and entangle, well, everyone hates it but I love it.

Cuchullain.3104:

No kidding. I would never have realized this if you hadn’t repeated the obvious 20 times.

It wasn’t obvious to you, you asked the question.

All the “advice” here says that it is better to auto-nerf your dps than to take a chance retaliation may set you up for an easy kill, while ignoring my statement that I rarely die except to being swarmed by the zerg. Even without retaliation the circumstances of my death would usually be the same as with it. So retal is more of a dps issue for me than a survival one as I am very good at surviving. You have to be as a glass ranger on an outmanned server.

You just don’t like the advise. Stop beating about the bush, man up, and say you don’t agree. No one is going to be upset. People gave you advise. Pick and choose what works for you. If not, continue to get ravaged by retaliation by zerg or by solo encounters.

Beyond that, I have given examples of why the benefits of shooting at zergs with aoe often outweighs the outrageous cost. I’d like to see someone refute those examples with something other than insults and dubious claims to expertise.

And people have provided you countless examples of why that is a bad idea. Take it or leave it. That is your choice at the end of the day. Best of luck to you.

Its a lost cause. If it was just me saying it is a learn to play issue then maybe I’d take a step back and rethink my points and yield. However, there are too many in here, that are veterans with the class, and saying the same thing.

You really need to think before you run head long into a enemy zerg. Plain and simple, most of us in this thread agree. That also holds true for all other classes. Just like they now have to watch their 6 for rangers.

Its a dance. Enjoy it.

ArchonWing.9480:

Retaliation killing rangers? What? I don’t run full glass in zergs (but I still only have 17k hp on ranger), …

I know you are aware of this but that 17k HP on your/our ranger is still more than on our Guardians

Just saying…

Cuchullain.3104:

So in other words, don’t shoot until after you throw traps, run through the zerg, use entangle, then use aoe and rapid fire.

No, that is how I play. But if you honestly expect to live after you spot a enemy zerg stacking you reap what you sow. You know what they are doing ahead of time. Even if you didn’t see them and just found them while roaming, you should know better. That is why they are in a group after all.

I can see where this “strategy” would avoid doing any serious dps while getting you gibbed constantly unless you are in a massive zerg ball that routinely steamrollers smaller groups, at which point retaliation and pretty much everything else doesn’t matter. I am failing to see how you avoid retaliation doing this, other than by not shooting anyone, since it is up near 100 percent of the time against the enemies my always outnumbered server faces.

It isn’t about avoiding retaliation. It is more about knowing when to do what otherwise it is like peeing in the wind, yeah? Mitigation. You are actually better off working your way through the initial contact using your groups stability and other effects rather than going b@lls out. Then swap to your burst and mow them down.

The tactical situation often requires you to shoot at the enemy even when you KNOW they have retaliation up. That so many here don’t seem to get this pretty much disqualifies any opinion they have on ranger play.

See my comment about peeing in the wind. That is what you just described. If you want to use rapid fire when you know retaliation is up, or think it is up, more power to you. I wouldn’t. No more than I’d recommend you bursting when you see wall of reflection up.

But at least you have the honesty to admit you’re a guardian and benefit from the retaliation cheezfest.

Yes, my main is a Guardian but I also play a ranger. So I actually see both sides of your argument. We don’t agree, that is ok. I’m just offering some advise in how I deal with it by not going all in at first engagement. I have found it wiser to roll with the group I’m in then turn and engage or cleanup. It works for me. Maybe not for you.

Retaliation isn’t the problem though just like Rapid Fire isn’t when other classes complain about us Rangers.

So we are not OP.

FrouFrou.4958:

Cuchullain.3104:

“Maybe you should play your elementalist then if you are not willing to learn to play your ranger properly?”

Maybe you should troll somewhere else.

No can do because I’m not trolling. If you seriously think doing a barrage on top of a buffed up zerg is a good idea it just means you are a prime candidate for natural deselection. Judging by the posts you made.. Viva la evolution!

+1

We also call it Thinning the Herd.

I’m glad you die by Retaliation. This is coming from my main, a Guardian. In fact, I also find it rather amusing when ignorant Rangers continue to shoot when I have my Wall of Reflection up. Quick JI or Leap and the Ranger is usually dead. Ignorance is bliss my friend but treat it as a learning experience.

My wise crack aside my secondary character is a Ranger so I know how you feel. But since my main is a Guardian I know when to use, and not use, Rapid fire or any burst for that matter when facing some classes or zergs. This, in my opinion, is one key to life or death that we all must learn. I run my Ranger in our zerg and have no issue with it but then again I’m not b@lls out running rapid fire on every cool down. In fact, it is just the opposite.

I run traps and throw them around like skittles falling out of the sky. It helps slow them down while we collide with their zerg and prevents them from turning so we gain a bit distance. One ranger, two, etc. Then after we pass through toss a few more, swap weapon sets, lay down some fire, swap weapons again, toss a trap or two, then entangle, AOE, and then only then, do I use rapid fire. Plenty of low health targets around to nuke with Rapid Fire.

Can’t have everything. Enjoy the RF change. I for one love it and have zero issues with it regardless of what class I’m on.

Androlan.9487:

According to the Ready Up episode, there was talk about LB being used to much. This is pretty much saying “We are nerfing LB” which is fine with me and I play a ranger. You don’t see top tier pvp players using power ranger and there are way to many of them in pvp. Most of them ruin the game by just bad play. Granted, there are a few decent players in power spec but most of them are trash. I’ll be glad to see them gone once they realize they have to L2P in pvp

Is that any different than the mesmers running around now after their change? Or a thief running around weaponless yet still nuking people down like there is no tomorrow? Let us not even bring up ele’s and engineers. Once a build becomes popular everyone flocks to it because they think 1 + 1 is 2 and a win for them. They ignore that populating your avatar with build and gear does not always equal easy mode. Skill still rules at the end of the day.

Skill does matter because there are players at the end of the day that take a difficult class to play, then play it well with their build and setups, and are fine. Then a change comes, take Rapid Fire for example, and all of a sudden they look like a killing machine and the alligator tears fall out of the sky like skittles with everyone battle shouting for nerfs.

I find it funny when a Mesmer is asking for rangers to be nerfed because they died to a pair of rangers. Yet they publicly say they can, and will, kill any class due to their recent changes to scepter. Go figure.

Point is, Arena Net has had two years of WvW and done zero with it. It is stale. The only reason why the die hard players are still here is because there really isn’t anything out that comes close to the WvW play style.

Amins.3710:

5 Guard Bomb

Well, we only had 4 guards on initial bomb, one was slack’n at the back of the bus!

Lot of sad rangers in that video

Well done as always. Still like your necro 3×13 video.

Gabe.6810:

After seeing the trapper runes in action suddenly I can’t live without them.

They are pretty amazing out in the WvW space.

Justine.6351 asked: Could you suggest a recording program please? ;-)

If you run Nvidia cards use shadowplay. You can set it up to capture X amount of time, I run 19 minutes, and dump if you think you have something you want to save. Works well.

Biske Von Gottlich.6927 – I use Merciful Intervention also. I actually swap to it depending on what we are doing. Ironically I’ve been accused of hacking a couple times in larger fights due to the recent changes. A lot of ignorant people out there or lack of use, not sure which. It comes in handy when I pusher is moving through the enemy zerg and you use it to teleport to them, turn around, and then use Tomb of Courage as your force moves. Pretty epic really.

I run a build around this but instead of hammer I run shield / mace. I try not to go over 1400 in healing which raises the point Amins made. Tomb of courage is great but the only draw back is the duration between availability. On that note I’ve only come across one instance whereas we had perfect storm when all three servers zerg somehow managed to meet at a camp. In that case not having the tomb up hurt but we still managed.

On the note someone said about being focused and I find it true. Once the enemy catches on then you can go down pretty quickly but I think that would apply regardless (although I feel death before lighter armor classes is a stupid game mechanic but maybe it is just my build or poor execution).

Thanks Incoming. I use a very similar build but without the hammer Just too slow for me or I just flat out suck at it.

Kolisch.4691:

messiah.1908:

i am playing with LB +GS full zerk with trap rune and 2 traps spike and frost
nice for roaming and zerging if you in bad spot
dmg is nice
the traps are used to cc, stealth and reposition

Yea, this is the approach players will conclude upon testing (when we’re using Trap runes). From experience, anything other than longbow triggers reveal more often.

In theory you can almost perma stealth (3 traps, but not advised, and LB 3 skill). I think people would figure out later that throwing trap trait would add to the survivability (people/ pets/ illusions/ mobs closing in will always be in the radius of a point blank trap thus triggering reveal instantly) so it’s handy to have a trap you can throw just for the stealth (up a wall or anything). This playstyle of stealth, hit from distance, repeat, has a potential to one day turn into a cheese build…

3 traps is fun, but not advised. I run it with axe/torch. I find it is a role more of standoff, range, and finisher. If I don’t plant the person when I’m solo then I trap my way out of it. I’ve had a group of 6 earlier chase me all the way across the map Personally for me, because I don’t melee too well with my Ranger (alt) I find thief my issue. Everything else is fair game more or less.

I like the trapper runes and also tied in the sigil of incapacitation. It is also fun.

Side note Xytl – check out some of Amins videos. He has a current Guardian video which I’d like to say fits his “don’t chase the squirrel” comment.

You will notice in the video, hell, in all of his (outside the crazy 3×15 necro) videos that they know when to cut and run. I think that is important regardless of what class or comp you are playing.

Amins.3710:

Build Link

Embrace the Chilldian!

Also, don’t worry so much about Str Sigils if you’re running w/ an Ele man… Hammertime and everyone will lurv u. You’ll dish out crazy amounts of chill and might.

Dropped the 7% crit and added perception.

Healing Breeze

You had no condi cleanse.. at all, outside of a 1 time purge. Changed your food + rune set. Much better all around. This would even allow you to remove the condi purge (cop) and substitue MI – a MUCH better utility for a small grp play.

Reasons:
1) 1200 yard cap closer on enemy cuz you know your ele / war / thief can get to the target: IE RoW + MI = clutch.
2) Added Grp Heal burst – MI + VoJ + Healing Breeze.
3) Disengage tool.

Your ele can clear the evil condi bomb when rains down on you: torment / bleed / Confusion

PS: other guys here on the forum are much better at stat allocation than I am – I still wear green gear just because I’m too lazy to mo-ze on over to that pve zone and spend some of my 4.6k karma and get a backpack that’s not greenzzzz.

When I’m running DPS I actually still use your 2/5/6/0/1 build believe it or not.

I think if I ran this build I’d try and add in Superior Sigil of Incapacitation. I think with the critical chance you would have a lot of cripple going on. I may have to try this just for fun.

Obtena.7952:

I agree with that 100% … if the devs are so focused on giving us stuff to fill our role, why bother with alternate specs? This just comes full circle to what I’ve already said .. is there something lacking in the concept for the class? I think there is.

Because the game was sold to trait the way you want to play. DPS, Support, or some combination between the two. Also because there is no formal or mandatory tank, dps, or heal meta.

Which I guess one could argue why have a support trait line then.

Revert the staff / symbol of swiftness change and there really won’t be a problem unless you are caught with it out. The current symbol mechanic forces one to stand in it for a few ticks to get full duration. Team moves as a whole, various members have different runes, Guardian must stop again, wait, and then play catchup.

Yes, this is a team game. Yes, you should probably move as one. However, there are times when you can’t move as one, or you need to hold something, or you have to go back and catch the slow Asura (remember, they have small legs compared to us Humans). But my point remains. The symbol of swiftness right now is silly and doesn’t help any.

The rest of it, well, it is what it is. Guardian is the only balanced class today in my opinion. The rest are broken, unbalanced, and honestly make no bloody sense. Why a cloth or leather wearing class has more longevity in any fight is beyond me and makes this game frustrating.

Balance probably more than anything else. I mean think if you engaged as any other class outside a Mesmer (clones) the fight would be 2 v. 1. Not really fair if the pet did any sort of consistent damage (auto attack) vs. player management. Same reason why Guardian spirit weapons took a huge nerf a while back. Fights are unbalanced. And, well, you know we have to have balance.

Personally, I’d remove the pets all together and move the damage back to the player. If they want pets outside cosmetics then they need to be in player control 100% of the time and under their management (no auto attacks). Otherwise I see no reason to have a pet at all and would prefer none.

Then again I don’t come from previous GW games and only started with GW2. However, I have played every other MMO out…

Obtena.7952:

You have missed the devs talk about profession balance in the video about … 7 months ago? Devs were pretty clear in that video update about this. Ask all you want, it’s not happening. Guardian class concept is get in, stay in and be last out; Runspeed is not needed for that concept. No, I’m not just making this up. If I had the video link, I would post it so you could see for yourself. It’s also the same reason we don’t have strong ranged weapon.

Agree with your statement 100% and I also don’t have the link.

Only area for disagreement is that it seems other classes using lighter armor actually do a better job. Heavy armor does not for conditional damage or focus fire in global fights. Heck, even in smaller engagements it seems focus puts Guardians down faster than a ambient creature.

Edit: To the OP. Forget about the trait. Just use traveler runes if you want speed and then play the stat spread. If that doesn’t work you can also use the staff even though it is dog poo after their change. Could also use the moa feathers I guess.

I tend to agree in that the Guardian player base yields more to do certain things like dps, speed, etc. Then again I also believe that some players are just better or smarter and these things don’t impact them.

Welcome to WoW past, present, and future. Any form of structured PvP (Arena’s) ended up being standard configurations. Season one everyone had a Paladin. Nerf, change, then it was rogue. Then it soon because rogue, mage, priest, then later warlock, druid, etc.

GW2 is not starting to see a similar pattern whereas structured play will require set classes rather than skill to succeed. Soon certain classes will be left out and frustrated.

Yelloweyedemon.2860:

Is having double or tripple the amount of health from all other classes fair?

Except guardians

Oh – let me add “is it fair to your list”

Is it fair that a weaponless condi thief can kill people without weapons…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFMzBXrxq_I

Did you happen to give Sigil of Incapacitation a try?

Jake.1430:

Before I get into my post, I want to clarify, I’m not calling anything OP, I ain’t complaining about losing to a Ranger, none of that stuff. I am, however complaining about the longbow, if you mist say L2P, by all means do, but please leave an actual response afterwards. I do really appreciate your opinions on the matter

So into it, Rangers got high range, which is warranted, it’s their thing. But, does it feel “fair” to have such high range, coupled with stealth and a knock back? You all must understand the frustration that comes with, being pelted by arrows from so far away, only to be denied the chance to retaliate. Suppose I am playing a melee class, we shall say warrior. I am happily defending a point, and I am hit by a rapid fire. I dodge and run to ranger. I am crippled by a hail of arrows. I continue to run forward, I am knocked backwards. I run more and the ranger stealths and appears farther away. I finally reach the ranger and I can do no damage to him(I do not remember the trait that transfers damage). I go down because the ranger was able to do enough damage before I could do anything.

Now this example would be the perfect argument for a “noob” as in ran in a straightline and did everything wrong. But it serves only to showcase the small handful of tricks rangers have to eliminate threats without much risk. I understand, blinks and reflects anddodges and stuns are must best friend, so I state once more this is just a showcase example.

Now the question is,Do you, the rangers, believe it is fair, for Rangers to have the safety of range, and escapes, while also doing heavy damage?

I apologize for the fact I’m very very bad at stating an argument, or general grammar. So I apologize.

Sup Jake. Don’t apologize for grammar because, well, this is the interwebz. What I’d like to know is why did you even post this? Is this because you now look and feel like a porcupine due to the number of arrows protruding from your body because you blindly charged a ranger? Or is this because you are drowning in the puddle of alligator tears falling like tears from heaven?

There is no fair in life let alone the fantasy world we play in. It is fair. Play smart and maybe you will actually taste the water you try and put in your body rather than looking like a fountain spilling water in time square. I mean sure, the pigeons need a place to take a bath and all but somehow you know the drill. HYDRATE, HYDRATE, HYDRATE!

Anyway – my point to all this babbling bull larky is that it is fair regardless if you are trying to dance around not calling it OP, you are. That was the hidden intent behind your post. Every class has something and a hard counter that is difficult to play against. Builds and traits are set up differently on rangers so it comes down to comfort level or risk vs. reward.

Moral of the story is don’t blindly charge. Stop, think, and play smart. You do those three things and you will win just about every fight/encounter in the game. Right? Even in PvE you don’t stand in the red circle, yeah? Well, this would be no different.

I’ll agree with the sword/focus + pressure. You basically have to stay on top of them just like you would a Mesmer. I’ve also had good success with scepter/focus. Great CC with the scepter.

Hammer in my opinion is too slow. Also you are not going to outlast them which is beyond stupid but that lies with arena nets balance team or lack thereof.

Low yield nukes work – something along the likes of a B-61.

Seriously though. I wouldn’t say you won’t. Practice makes perfect. Has nothing to do with the other being awful.

too bad empyreal fragments or bloodstone dust doesn’t fit the bill. We all probably have a metric tone and the dust looks like a cylinder

Ynna.8769:

Whenever people suggest completely reworking the Shield I feel the need to remind them that the knockback on the Shield is actually really good. The cooldown is just too long and the skill bugs out occasionally.

I love the shield for that alone when in push/support mode. I just don’t like the focus and how it blocks better or the mace. Seems odd to me and then tie in shield 4 which is weak in my opinion, rework is in order. In theory anyway. Doesn’t mean I’m right by any means.

Redg.9807:

Nah we cant go hot-join, because ez win and auto-balance war.
But some kind of “special event” in custom arena could be good.

That is very true.

Reminds me of my WoW days when we’d run 10 man AB groups with nothing but Paladins…

If I was a betting man I’d say hot join will be ok, but the 5 would get wrecked with a group that has played together a while. But I’ll be the first to admit I hold the right to be incorrect

Ragnar the Rock.3174:

Relentliss.2170:

Isn’t bleed on crit a blue trait for warrior?

Just sayin.

True.

Though the problem with bleed as a condition is that its very easy for a group to cap even when not trying to.

This is why many people think that torment or confusion would be much better for guardians.
There is also the fact that confusion & torment would work well on guardians because of
1: Guardians have very little CC, confusion would be good in its place because it punishes the enemy for taking action against you.
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2: Guardians lack cripples, have extremely few chills & only some immobilize. Torment would help greatly because it would punish enemies who try to flee melee.

Regarding item 2 above, there is a new sigil for that…

AGGabriel.9230:

Let me show you a vision of the true guardian shield shud be this is just a skill but has some striking resemblance from guardian shield 4
read carefully and watch the image
http://neverwinter.gamepedia.com/Frontline_Surge

Or make a shield do what it is designed for. Block, guard, and bash. DaOC had it right when a shield was equipped you could place guard on someone. So if you are within area/radius you could block an attack. I can’t stress how many times it stopped the pesky thief/stealth classes from putting a dagger in our healer or runi’s back.

Remove the focus, rework shield. Life would be better.

It got people to craft is all probably. Take me for example. 0 crafting on my main or alt (ranger/warrior). I wanted this sigil so I had to level crafting. I also wanted to try the trapper runes. Had to learn that craft…

It isn’t a game breaker by any means and it just means I’m finally, probably, going to craft up to 500 for one set of ascended crap finally. Some times it just comes down to the price one pays to try something or wear the ranger uniform….or any other class for that matter (e.g. to play GW2).

Couple questions regarding this build since my ranger is the least played (alt) vs. my main a guardian (probably why I struggle on my note below).

1. WvW – how do you keep engaged (resetting of fights, disengaging, run to away, etc.)?
2. Wvw – why melee vs. no range or traps? Wouldn’t it make sense to just roll a thief instead to get the reset fight options and stealth?

Is the primary mechanic here evade the attacks and apply pressure via conditions and bleeds? Per my comment I mainly play LB with sword/dagger but find when I engage melee I totally screw it up because my main is a Guardian who just gets into the middle of things (the whole sword/dagger moving around targets, jumping back then forth makes me loose targets too much ).

I run LB with trapper runes and the new sigil of incapacitation and trying to figure out the build(s) posted here just for something different. Granted I’m a newb so just picturing the play is all

Sam Gem.1246:

It’s only now that you guys decide to fix it… while the players are leaving the game? Launch an expansion already…

That isn’t going to resolve the questions they asked related to WvW.

While I do see the underlying point you raise, and I actually agree 100% (if you care), expansion isn’t going to help.

Substance. Reason. Incentive. Three keys to a successful PvW/WvW subsystem. Today coverage wins every single match and the match ups that are 20 to 40k apart are far and few between. When they do happen they last for a single week and the team that wins and moves up gets destroyed the next week only to fall back down again… It is like climbing a ladder with the next 3 rungs / steps ahead of you broken