This is how it always plays out. Get ready.
PvE people get almost everything when it comes to content updates. Then PvP people complain that they don’t have any content there. So then devs give them some love and give them some achievement points to work for. Then PvE people get mad and say its not fair cause they are being forced over to PvP to get those achievement points. Then PvE gets some more love with content and achievement points. Then WvW gets mad because they didn’t get any love. Then the devs give them some love with a new map and some achievement points and a small taste of the LS. Then PvE gets mad again cause they are somehow again forced into WvW to get those achievement points and part of the LS when they thought it was all for them, and them alone even though they just have to run to the bottom of the map and click “F” to grab some parts to the puzzle. And the list goes on and on with PvE radicals being extremely selfish not understanding that they get almost every bit of content for themselves and that PvP and WvW people are forced to go into PvE content for almost everything in the game to have an equal success rate at it. Then the PvE people come back and say, “Oh no, we never said or meant that, we think you should get all that we have too”, not understanding that if the same content was in 3 different aspects of the game that not only would content take 3x as long to come out (and they would be mad about that as well) but the storyline wouldn’t make sense and break the immersion, and which one would get all the achievements? Then the PvE radicals will say that people who PvP and play WvW don’t care about achievements because that’s somehow PvE content and PvP people only care about killing each other but really, that’s not the case with 90% of the PvP and WvW population.
Your welcome.
Honestly, veteran trolls that regen so the fight last longer?
Did you realize they were using the new Warrior heal skill, Defiant Stance?
If you kept damaging them while they were channeling it, instead of cutting DPS, you were the one doing the healing.
Haha I didn’t even realize they were using that. Thanks for the info! That’s actually pretty cool, a way to give ai a little boost from being trash mobs and makes it so that you have to use tactic in order to get them down faster. I’m loving everything about this update lol. Only suggestion is to integrate a closer wp but I’m not sure if that would be viable.
Dont see the problem since you can atm make 6 rank 5 toon pretty quickly. Now after WvW ranks combine then it will be a problem for the lazy.
Also the amount of gold you waste depending on your luck equals that the amount of a legendary so you can just buy it probably for alot more cheaper than making it.
Can you point out where the devs have said they are going to add all the ranks together, and not just use the highest rank like they did for fractals?
You might want to read it again. They aren’t adding ranks together. They are adding the points together. Thus, you would be better off just using your main level 80 with good gear and masteries to get rank points easier. Yw
With all of this in mind, the system is receiving the following changes:
All earned World XP on an account will be put into a single pool.
The sum of those points will determine the world rank and World Ability Points available to each character on the account.
World Ability Points can be allocated differently on each character; you are not creating a single, account-based, version of your characters.> All earned World XP on an account will be put into a single pool.
I highlighted it for you. No need to thank me.
Lol. Please read it and understand it again, the part you yourself bolded for some apparent reason. “All World XP will be brought into one single pool”. Exactly. XP. Not ranks. Those little numbers that add up to rank you up is what’s going to be pooled together. Not the actual rank numbers. So like what was suggested earlier “just creating alts and leveling them up to 5 real quick so that your ranks get put together into one”. That does not work.
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The map’s great. It really is. I’m enjoying the hell out of it. I’m sorry you guys run on the bridges when there are enemies there (doh!), and jump into 60 man zergs and think you’re going to live because you brought some stability. Ya 1v60
(doh!). You guys make me laugh
. Try enjoying content for once, it can be fun that way. Lol
EDIT: although I do agree on the wp’s. I’m sure I’ll get the hang of the pathways but atm it takes forever to get from one place to another and then some random group mobs you and you have to do it all over again. But that’s the only complaint I have atm because it is a long kitten walk back.
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Dont see the problem since you can atm make 6 rank 5 toon pretty quickly. Now after WvW ranks combine then it will be a problem for the lazy.
Also the amount of gold you waste depending on your luck equals that the amount of a legendary so you can just buy it probably for alot more cheaper than making it.
Can you point out where the devs have said they are going to add all the ranks together, and not just use the highest rank like they did for fractals?
You might want to read it again. They aren’t adding ranks together. They are adding the points together. Thus, you would be better off just using your main level 80 with good gear and masteries to get rank points easier. Yw
I had not gotten into the living story myself until right before origins of madness and posted asking the devs to please help me understand the story since I hadn’t gotten into the previous LS events. The scene explaining each of the priories artifacts was pretty cool in how it was implemented and made me understand and catch up so thank you for that.
To me it’s really the context.
If you look around, everyone is doing the same thing everyday.
Why do you have 10 characters?
5 races
2 genders per race
so 10 charactersWould have stopped at 8 since there are only 8 classes but wanted to have a full set.
None of my characters are mules.Exactly. I have 8 level80 with full map completion and personal story done. And a total of 13 level80.
If this game actually have an endgame to play, people won’t have that many level80. Since this game have no endgame, people end up doing AC or COF or fractal everyday which is the same thing they did 1 year ago.
The guy above your post said it “And add in the fact that raids and battlegrounds offer an actual, FUN gearing process and compare it to the tedious crafting grind here. Guess who wins?”
This game is in fact very casual. But when you try to play it hardcore you wind up doing the same thing everyday. “same daily, same dungeon, same farming”.
Agree on your last point.
GW2 endgame however from what i seen is do what you want type of end game where the ultimate goal is to have fun which is different from previous MMORPGs. This is causing many of the issues since most people are coming from games where the goal is set in place long before they even started playing. Creating their own goals rather than goals placed for them.
I don’t even know what goals you are talking about. There are nothing to do.
There are no content casual players can’t do. If I already can do every content as a casual players, why would I want to play hardcore.
There is PLENTY to do that casuals can’t. High level fractals, sPvP, roaming WvW, Teq, the wurm, etc. That is all more geared towards the hardcore crowd that the casual crowd either can’t do or doesn’t have the time for it. I have no iidea how you think there is nothing to do. And I only listed a couple things geared towards the hardcore crowd. There’s also dungeons such as Arah and others without speed running, world completion, other world bosses, lower leveled fractals, achievements, WvW zerging, guild missions, jumping puzzles, living story, the new EotM map, and the list goes on. Hell you could even learn how to flip the TP, some people enjoy that stuff and I’ve started to learn myself, not to mention that Anet updates the game with new content and bosses pretty regularly. I understand there are some of these things that you might not particularly like but there’s plenty to choose from and I’m sure you’ll like several.
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Shared loot is nothing new.. shared banks, guild banks etc all provide shared loot access.. GW2 is nothing revolutionary there I’m afraid its just collated in different mechanics to how others do it, that’s just to make it look different and avoid the “its a copy”… I do like the ability to deposit collectables straight to shared bank though.. +1 ANET
GW2 has only just introduced an LFG system x-server that’s in no way comparable to other systems that have been around as long as the arc in my opinion.
Kill stealing – I will give you that if you mean stealing as in thief steels/ sigil procs. otherwise not sure what it is your getting at.
Dodge – sorry but DDO has had dodge and block mechanics in it right from original beta must be 9 yrs now, I believe Tera has it and so do others I would hazard a guess…. nothing new at all in GW2
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Grind – Every MMO has a grind attached and GW2 is no different – Leveling is a grind to some, gathering resources, loot etc is a grind to others.. it all comes down to playstyle and preference. Tell me gathering all those silk scraps isn’t a grind for your ascended armours or salvaging all those blues, greens or ectos isn’t a grind for players to get some waste of time Magic Find %… getting your pre-cursors or crafting legendary.
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As for your smooth camera stuff.. GW2 (by the devs own admission) has a fail camera system.. jump puzzles area clear indicator of that.. so much camera collision, poor zoom capability and poor model scaling . a la Norn Guardians in jump puzzles.
UI.. simple yes but imo far to simple. When I want to take something from my inventory like a spikey fruit to throw in combat or down some food etc etc, all I got to do is stop , open inventory find it and double click it – but then I realise I cant cos.. I is dead!.. quickslots are there to be utilised but of course GW2 was planned for console junkies rather than PC’ers I guess.
GW2 is visually good I will give them that, but all that comes at a price and they have been in reactive mode since beta to try and reduce the demands both server side and our side to bring the game into playable performance.. culling, particle reduction etc and the ability to have all those nice things on screen with hundreds of players at the same time, like other games, it has found it to be a problem for many. Personally I don’t suffer too much in GW2 compared to say SWTOR but many others do on a regular basis.
Don’t get me wrong I think GW2 has some impressive points, had some good idea and still has potential, but it isn’t amy better than other games out there already, at least not in my opinion – we all have our opinions on what’s right wrong, liked not liked ya see.
Shakespeare’s plays…theyr’e nothing but words. That’s all they are. There isn’t a new word in any of it.
I think you missed the point here. It’s not one feature or one thing that makes this game better than other MMOs for some of us…it’s the specific combination of features.
Pretend you’re a friendly social casual for a second. In most games, someone can tag your guy before you do and kill steal your boss, so you have to wait five minutes for a respawn. I’m sure other games have done this in the past. And rewarding me loot and experience for participating in the fight even if I come in late….that’s just..well…rewarding. But how many games that do that also don’t allow node stealing. I remember being in Rift and knocking back people I’m fighting, so I could mine during a fight, before some idiot took my node.
And how many of those games that had no kill stealing and no node stealing also allowed everyone to rez everyone else without using a skill slot? I don’t remember many games that do that.
How many allow you to have combo fields with people not in your party or buff people not in your party? Not too many. How many don’t make you go to a quest giver to get a quest or a reward? Not too many.
And none of the games I’ve played had all or even most of these features.
What Anet had was a vision of cooperative PvE and they aimed every feature of the game, from no killing stealing to down leveling to separating PvE and PvP, all with this singular vision in mind of creating something that no other game has come close to creating.
You’re so busy looking at trees, you forgot to notice the forest.
God I hated kill stealing lol. I remember being in swtor when it first came out and there being hundreds of players in the beginner area having to kill the same boss. Think I tried for like an hour to get the first tag in on him before I gave up having to wait 5-10 min each time for him to spawn again before I gave up for the day. Or when blood elves first came out in WoW, same process. Makes me laugh at the memories. Great post btw. +1 love the analogy at the end
I agree with the OP. I miss GW2 staples when I go to other games now. When I all knew of was WoW systems, I could do other wow clones and still be happy. Now I’m spoiled
That being said… I miss the trinity. I love healing and tanking. GW2 has a different system of DPS and Utility. Its a duality instead of a trinity. It can be messy, hard to track and includes a lot of player skill and reaction timing. While I’m not necessarily complaining about that, they haven’t balanced the classes to be good at both damage and utility, opting to make the damage weapon specific and the utility class specific. So we are still not “bringing the player, not the class” when optimizing gains are based on one class having the utility we need or one class being able to deal more damage.
That being said, GW2 is a step in the right direction when so many other MMOs are still climbing up on the shoulders of others.
Just fix some “anti-human nature” measures to keep the market equitable would be nice. Adopting a bit more “choose your own adventure” appeal couldn’t hurt either… The living story, after having a few choice paths in the personal story, feels like a step in the wrong direction. There are plenty of ways to write good story that brings your choices back around to a similar place to rejoin the main storyline with everyone else.
That, and the ability to actually create your own story and surroundings in the world make for incredible endgame content.. Not much can top Improbable Island for that.
Omg, thank you for that link. Best story ever! Seriously, I’ve been sucked right in.
Not only is it lame from a gameplay perspective, but from a social perspective it doesn’t bring people together in a meaningful way (Read: Marionette), and it doesn’t lend itself to a believable world. It’s just lame. Let me be as blunt as possible with my feelings here: Fix it. Nerf it. Burn it. Better yet: make something better. Maybe Orr was supposed to be the intended “end game” farming zone? If so, then make some sweeping changes to Orr. The potential is there, but like I said, as of now for whatever reason the zone is empty. I haven’t been playing the game long enough to comment on the subtle reasons why, but I know that the Queensdale champ train appears to be pure boring mode. Will I be penalized for not taking part in such activities?
I am wondering if maybe you are just not on the right server. The champ trains you really are not missing out on much if at all. Queensdale train I believe is more for leveling than money. Frostgorge train I know is used tons by some of my guild members who may only have 20 minutes to play and need a little extra cash. It definitely is not the best or fastest way to make money so you are not missing out there either.
I know I would be crushed if they took out Orr. This is where most of my favorite people hang out. We get full temple runs going at least 3 times a day and almost always have an overflow during reset runs. Usually after many runs someone else takes over and then does a world boss train or like today, we go and do a jump puzzle train for the monthly. People go crazy for this ’Temple Time* and although they may get a little feisty at times, for the most part everyone is laughing and having fun.
Yell at me in game some time and I will show you how fun the zone can be!
I see where the OP is coming from though. When I had first got 80 I saw Orr as empty as well and I still do. From what I’ve heard, Orr got a massive nerf to farming so that’s why nobody goes there anymore. Now I know there are world bosses littered all over the map but:
1. It’s hard to know when those are going on.
2. It’s even more difficult to know which server is actually doing them or not
3. You really have to be in a really good/organized guild in order to know when and where and what server these events and other world boss events are going on.
I’ve gone through a lot of guilds until I finally found one that was organized, has 1500 members, thus does world boss events all the time. They really need to fix the farming in Orr and destroy it in QueensDale imo.
I play on Anvil Rock which is a Tier 6 server and LA is always active with people anytime of the day/night. Not to mention we are the most active sPvP server so Edge of the Mists always has people in it as well. And whenever I go into WvW we always have zergs going on, not the massive zergs that make incredible computers like my own lag like a slide show but where there is usually several commanders on and 20+ people on them. Don’t listen to the trolls man. They love the game but hate Anet. They will do anything they can to someway get back at Anet and try to destroy their own game by making players feel they are not welcome or they are coming to a horrible game when it is much the opposite. They look at the glass half empty, always. Forums for video games are just not the place to go to if you want to find out something like this because they are filled with haters because they are usually the only ones vocal in the community, thus this is where they vent. I would suggest going into the game yourself and checking it out and I would probably suggest a tier 4/5 server or maybe higher depending on how good your computer is able to handle large amounts of people as well as how you would like your WvW experience and PvE experience to be and which you prefer more. I personally enjoy medium sized zergs so I can roam as well as join in on a zerg which sometimes they do get extremely massive. Then I can always guest if I feel the need to complete world bosses and such. You can’t do that with WvW though. Good Luck!
Would been better with a video or stream
So can videos. I don’t think he’s lying though.
Finally! They have fixed the exploits on attacking the gates and trebs before the match starts. I’m happy