Guild Wars 2

UP ! Any news ?

What’s happening? They realized WvW is part of the game ?

ahahah … nice post.

Tnx BULL for the nice fights @ coyotes.
It’s always a pleasure to find someone that rejects the zerg.

Noif.7821:

Jgr.8765:

Perkele! There were some fun fights with DYE, XxX on Gandara BL tonight.

We was there only for XxX hunt, but they escaped too often from border to border or used other guilds as shield.

lol, we were 12, following them north of the bay and they suddenly disappeared. We obviously thought about a stealth inc but … surprise ! They ported away…
bah

Parthis.2091:

Thanks to [Rain] for the GvG setup this week, looking forward to it.

JDGE would be up for some GvG on wednesday too if anyone fancies it (XxX?!?!?!?) – give it a punt, we don’t play the meta, you won’t find a melee ball.

XxX don’t GvG… you know GvG are recorded and numbers are even….

Tellerion.8102:

While there is another thread going on where there has been discussions regarding the current reward system, I think the subject definitely deserves it’s own thread, where people can voice their opinions and thoughts regarding the matter.

Do you for example find it fair that there’s no decrease in terms of rewards if you run with 70 people, compared to a 5man group?

It’s not fair for the 5man group, but it’s fair for the 70 zerg.
So, since 70 happy is better than 5 unhappy nothing will change.

And just for the records, i’m one of the unhappies.

If you recognize the thief before entering combat, try ALT+F4 … if you do it fast enough you’ll survive.

msalakka.4653:

Good morning, Gandara. Here’s Mr. Bubbles with the weather report.

Elona Reek is really awsome!

Rissou.7213:

I dont see a d/d thief fight 5 people and kill them all, but a d/p can do that

in which universe you can kill 5 ppl ?
there is a problem that every weapon set has and it is called “downed state”
i can down someone in a 1 v 5 fight, without a d/p build but i won’t perform the stomp.
no one can, against semi-decent players.

ANET should implement a specific, istanced map for dueling…. something like sPvP but with PvE toons. Maybe with a sort of arena where 2 ppl duel and others can watch.
It can be fun to duel with your friends.
meantime we’ll keep on dueling in WvW

Emixam.6834:

Daendur.2357:

Nice fights in FSP border after midnight… too bad someone put that merchant north of the bay… that one was rough

Yeah we all felt the pain :P
To be honest I didn’t think that you would push with possibly Elona on your back…

We had a doubt, but suddenly we realized that Elona doesn’t move if they are less than 8 groups… and with your help we pruned them

Nice fights in FSP border after midnight… too bad someone put that merchant north of the bay… that one was rough

it makes me cry… ç_ç

Nikkinella.8254:

the same response is always L2P.

Maybe because the ones who did it aren’t complaining anymore? And the only problem against thieves is that you do NOT know how they work, how they can reach perma stealth, or boon stripping or high damage or great mobility or anything else.

Yes, thieves can do a lot of things, but they cannot do all of them with a single build, without side effects.

Playing a thief will open up your mind and you’ll be able to recognize which kind thief you are facing at the very first glance and react in the proper way.

You don’t want to ? Again, your problem. There is a lot of people saying they have no problems facing thieves… that must mean something, don’t you think ?

Scrambles.2604:

Xirin.8593:

Evilek.5690:

Demandrer.7068:

Brilliant thank you for assisting my thread nice to know 9000 or people alsofeels it stupid!

90% players is so bad in PvP,PvE, 8% players are good players who learned to play against all classes, just only 2% of the players are pros.

You’re in category 90%.

Hah. Funny that you used those specific values. My buddy and I have a term we throw around a lot when talking about GW2 players: the 90%ers.

tldr; high-five for accurate post.

I used to get owned on my Ele in WvW by thieves, so i made a thief to learn how to combat them.

…now i just get owned on my Thief, haha.

so you are confirming that it’s not the class, but the player…

Really a video to show how to kill green arrows ?

Nikkinella.8254:

Daendur.2357:

the cost i negligible … and no, you don’t have to put it down and wait for a thief to come … it’s a counter to d/p build, can be placed in combat using stability or after having bursted the thief.

It is a viable counter to a build that rely too much on stealth.
You don’t want to use it? It’s your choice but it doesn’t imply stealth disruptor doesn’t exist or it doesn’t work.

The very existence of those traps are proof of how OP thief is. It’s proof that other classes have no inherent way of countering stealth. You NEED to buy a trap and waste karma and supplies and badges in order to actually counter it. There is no way to remove stealth from a thief without those traps. And you see nothing wrong with that? With the fact it’s the only class that you need to buy an item to actively counter its class mechanics. Why not just give other classes a skill that causes reveal? thief wouldn’t need to be changed or and other classes have an actual counter to it.

Wait, it’s not the only way to deal with stealth …. you can always L2P.
It’s just the easy way.

the cost i negligible … and no, you don’t have to put it down and wait for a thief to come … it’s a counter to d/p build, can be placed in combat using stability or after having bursted the thief.

It is a viable counter to a build that rely too much on stealth.
You don’t want to use it? It’s your choice but it doesn’t imply stealth disruptor doesn’t exist or it doesn’t work.

Master of Timespace.2548:

How stupid thief does it take to walk on that trap though?

No need of stupidity. You put the trap under your feet, if he’ll attack you he’ll trigger the trap.
Maybe you can go away, maybe not… surely for 30 seconds no more dumb combo.

Less QQ more Stealth Disruptor Traps.
You say thieves are ez mode, skilless and blablabla but you cant do a basic thing like put down a trap to screw a build ?

Demandrer.7068:

I totally expect this to get trolled.

But seriously something needs to be done about thieves perma stealth troll spec in wvw for the other classes that aren’t as good roamers unless your in a zerg there is simply no reason to run about as within 2 minutes you will come across a thief that cant play any other class effectively so has gone for the perma stealth glitch to help their lack of skill and gameplay.

I am 100% sure that when this game was released it didn’t want to be like wow and other mmo`s with no anticipated classes having stealth for any given period of time.

And I am trusting in Anet to fix it………

Majority of wvw players zerg but what do the other roamers think?

Yes I know there are signs of where the thief is via the skill they are using to stealth but its still over the top and OP.

Roll a thief, come in WvW, die tons of times because you are bad, stop posting kitten.
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ahahah

Travlane.5948:

Daendur.2357:

The problem is you cannot really kill anyone in 1v3 against decent players.
I mean, the only way you can achieve a stomp is to steal a fear and cast it when they have no stunbreaker and be lucky.

You can kill ppl when they swing at the air with a downed mate, but they are not decent players.

A) you are pointing out a general problem against all thieves not just p/d.
B) i have bllind AOE on stealth (CND to stomp)
C) in zerg running i use DAGGERSTORM when needed and then stomp with stability.
D) Shadow Step stomp.

plenty of ways to get it down and plenty of vids to prove so. ive been looking online for zerg style thieves that can also 1 v 1 but have yet to find one video. im sure theres prolly 1 out ther but looking as to have a contrast of builds.

Those are general ways that anyone with any build can have.
What I mean is that against 3 good players you do not have the time for a stomp.
1 resser is faster than 1 stomper, 2 ressers and the downed is up almost istant.
You can’t say you can do it against good players while other thieves in other videos can do it just because opponents are bad.

It is a common problem with atm no solution except the one I provided before.

Also I think p/d is slow like hell and boring to be played, but this is a personal feeling.

[BT] roaming FSP

The problem is you cannot really kill anyone in 1v3 against decent players.
I mean, the only way you can achieve a stomp is to steal a fear and cast it when they have no stunbreaker and be lucky.

You can kill ppl when they swing at the air with a downed mate, but they are not decent players.

Neme : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2B1IrYxjfA

kronos you can’t honestly say you don’t blob….
someone uses skill, someone else numbers… there’s no shame in that (… maybe)

i just wonder how can anyone count 50 enemies… i think when they are more then 20 they become almost uncountable

Berengar.6951:

I wasn’t under the impression the OP was a thief. If he is well then shadow refuge would be an easy placement.

I am, and indeed I casted SR to place the trap but placing it triggered revealed on me.
So I actually set it unstealthed.

It was not a duel. I was roaming and he jumped on me.

Hi, what do you think about it ?
A couple of days ago I faced a d/p d/d thief that was doing the boring combo all the time, so I put down a trap, he triggered it and got revealed… few seconds after I stomped him in his useless shadow refuge…
He invited me in group and started to insult me because I cheated …
I laughed hard and now I’m asking you your opinion.
bye.

Eldanesh.2390:

maeggle.6021:

It sounded as if Daendur was complaining about not being presented with points on the silver plate.

You’re misunderstanding. I have never seen BT concerned with taking towers or points, they roam and they do it well! He is complaining about people who have nothing better to do than spend all day on the same arrow cart taking potshots at the roamers who happen to be passing by. Happens to me all the time while solo roaming and its nothing more than an irritation, they aren’t going to kill me while i’m running past and they aren’t going to come out and actually PLAY the game. So what’s the point?

ahahah yeah, yesterday i told to my guildies that it seems to be the hero of an action movie … you run and some bad guys with a chaingun fire just behind your feet.
I must record it as an intro for a montage…

@ maeggle: what i read from you is blablabla we don’t have skill nor balls, so we hide behind RPG’s stuff like scouting, and “sentineling a structure”.
gg hf

Puandro.3245:

it also happens to anyone else near me in WvW.

how many are they ?

I have 10 acs in my bag … if you want i can mail them to you. I’d prefer to hit ppl face to face, not from a tower’s wall.

Rottaran Owain.6789:

Backstab has a cast time. Is it possible that one can avoid the reveal by starting the cast just at the right time so that you unstealth before hitting?

No, it was possible some months ago, but then they fixed the bug.
Now revealed triggers if you hit something and the cast started when stealthed.
So if 0.1 seconds of stealth remains and you cast backstab (0.25s cast time) you will actually hit when you are out of stealth but revealed triggers, while the trait 100% crit chance from stealth doesn’t…. please fix it.

Kodash sleeping on arrow carts … it’s disgusting.
You pass near a tower and it starts an arrows’ rain… everytime, everywhere.
I can’t really understand how that can be funny… you do nothing. you don’t kill anybody, you don’t get points, you are just a pain in the kitten .

Kodel.4871:

Sadly when everyone in WvW only plays for fair fights and sportsmanship you usually end up in a situation where 10 people watch 5 people take your camp because it wouldn’t be ‘fair’ or a ‘good fight’ if you interrupted them. This sort of behaviour gets silly real fast trust me. It’s the PvP equivalent of being a carebear, but by all means continue to pat each others backs on a fight well played at the cost and detriment of healthy enmity, server pride and the point of WvW.

I guess you can’t blame the players so much just the devs for letting WvW get so boring there’s nothing left but to stand in a circle and watch two people fight, how depressing :p

if we are 4 ppl roaming and find 2 ppl in a camp we kill them… but if i find 2 ppl fighting i just watch. what’s the problem ?

Direwind.8409:

I have seen the revealed condition on thiefs, but im sure it doesn’t work, because I quite often seem them use stealth, attack lay blackpowerder, leap stealth attack again, stealth again Aoe stealth attack, lay powerder again… it goes on forever it seems, not once did I notice reveal do anything.

when you use heartseeker in a smoke field you enter stealth and the attack doesn’t trigger the revealed buff, since stealth is calculated at the end of the leap, after damage.
then you can wait stealth to wear off and do it again.
it’s almost perma stealth but it does few to no damage… it’s just a trolling playstyle.

DanH.5879:

i didn’t realize you could back-stab someone (from the back of the victim in less than 1 second since you stealth), not to mention casting it takes 0.25 ? (speedhack or quickness)

tbh it’s quite easy, no hack needed, especially if my opponent is running to me.
Steal, turn, BS. Or I can c&d or HiS running through him and immediately BS.

Backpedaling let you move at half normal speed (in combat), so if you have Fleet Shadow it’s really easy to reach a backpedaling opponent and bs him.

Btw I usually don’t have problems with thieves, I was just saying that you have to adapt.

i was just saying that following a scheme is not always good. you can also be backstabbed the very first second after stealth…
moreover vs a d/p you can’t know how many seconds he is stacking… you can count 1 – 2 but he was jumping in his field

Up

Stealth should trigger revealed
Breathe should trigger revealed
Think to attack someone should trigger revealed
Entering WvW should trigger revealed
please go on with the list…

Enderr.5416:

Many thx to the [Rose] guild and the few pugs from DL in the EB JP who ganked me, a lot of honor in a 5 vs 1 fight.

5vs5, [Rose] wither quite fast… Gardener needed.

a lot of writing effort to screw a profession…
luckily you’r not a dev.

wait… did anyone mention “stealth disruptor” ?

DanH.5879:

extra: if you eaten a C&D or thief used HiS/blinding powder, count 1,2, dodge

i read something like this multiple times and actually there are someone out there doing it. that’s why i usually stack 2 stealths. a lot of time it goes like this: blining powder – HiS = double stealth …. opponent count 1 – 2 dodge …. “oh no, he’s not appearing” dodge. At this time i have a couple seconds left for a bs or simply i can wait stealth to wear off anche c&d him without fearing a dodge…

Easy counter is easily counterable

I thought I had read everything, but then a thread like this appears and… oh man it opens new horizons …

1 group [BT] roaming Drakkar