Guild Wars 2

Zero Day.2594:

DarkSyze.8627:

For Zero Day include Thief Players:

You ask if thief profession was Op so why not have alot thief players in parties and fights?

I have answer/question: think about it: maybe reason why is, wining all the time and using the same builds and same moves/play-style all the time is too boring for them so they play other professions that offer different builds with different moves/play-style?

…

It is the decision, the choice, they made, what they play and not play. Allow them to grow up and own up to the decision they made – it’s harmless since it’s a game after all. If they choose to play other professions and exclude one, that’s by choice. If they see it boring to do the same thing over and over again, that’s fine, they can play other professions and come back whenever they please/find those professions boring. If they’re tired of winning all the time and switched over to “not winning all the time”, it is again by choice.
They’re allowed to make them (choices and decisions), and they should own up to it. If they make a choice/decision and then blame others for it… well… it shows a personal flaw.

How that relates to something being OP, is beyond me.

I already answer: Arena net design the thief profession to guarantee win: that is why.

Guarantee goes against choice and rewards mistakes and risks instead of punishment.

Example:

If you are Guarantee to pass a test, will it matter if you chose to give the right answer? or chose to give the wrong answer?

Another Example:

If you are Guarantee to graduate from University: will it matter if you go to class? will it matter if you do not go to class?

Zero Day: you are a intelligent/smart person, you know this is true

For Zero Day include Thief Players:

You ask if thief profession was Op so why not have alot thief players in parties and fights?

I have answer/question: think about it: maybe reason why is, wining all the time and using the same builds and same moves/play-style all the time is too boring for them so they play other professions that offer different builds with different moves/play-style?

That is what i read and hear players say in the forum and in the game when i use to believe Arena net was going to make the game fun and challenging: thief do not learn anything—thief uses the same builds, same play-style, same game-play, same no-effort play, same no hard-work play, it same everything, no diversity, no real challenge/ limited challenge, same spamming over and over= very boring.

Parties and groups want a profession that offer diversity, challenge, support, risk-reward game play contribution: and No! stealth is not support game-play contribution because it prevent/limit challenge play— unless for emergency reasons.

So what does that mean:

Arena net design the thief profession to contribute only stealth for party/group play: that is all but party/group play do not see thief stealth as contribution and as necessary support.

Before even the guild i belong to when run dungeon/pve party ann even in wvw do not accept thief profession in their party: which is sad. I hope you understand the whole picture why?

This is another evidence why Arena net design thief profession to only win and to guarantee to win: with having only pluses. Having only pluses and having guarantee win goes against learning new things, hardship, restrict/prevent take risks, challenge game-play.

So as long Arena net continue to believe that is what thief profession is: they will struggle to be accepted and be restricted and denied access to parties who want challenge: hard-work and effort game-play and risk-play.

think about it:

" Why are we so full of restraint? Why do we not give in all directions? Is it fear of losing ourselves? Until we do lose ourselves there is no hope of finding ourselves "

" You learn more from losing than winning. You learn how to keep going "

" It’s not the winning that teaches you how to be resilient. It’s the setback. It’s the loss "

" Strength does not come from wining. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength "

" The joy of losing consists in this: Where there are no expectations, there is no disappointment ".

That is all.

Shivan.9438:

I’ll agree that the PvP community in this game is horrible.

~ If you’re not G.W.E.N, you’re garbage.
~ If you’re spec isn’t meta, you’re garbage.
~ If you don’t one shot or global someone, you’re garbage.
~ If you can’t carry your team while they’re AFK, you’re garbage.
~ If you take one single hit, you’re mocked and you’re garbage.
~ If you can’t kill 3 people at once, you’re garbage.
~ If you go down because 3 people are wrecking you, you’re garbage.

It goes on forever. Though there’s a difference between venting and being salty. Venting is when you’ve enough and blow it off. Salt or being salty is keeping it bottled up, being a baby about it and throwing a fit when someone gets lucky.

If you want to point a finger at someone for the communities attitude, point it at A.net. If dungeons in this game weren’t so horribly broken – Run, stack, run, stack, run, stack, skip this trash, run, stack, and give players content that can be taken as something other than a joke, attitudes would improve. Perhaps pug’ing wouldn’t be a nightmare.

If Magic Find in this game wasn’t broken, players wouldn’t salty because loot would drop. And just to give you an example of how MF is broken, go your Trading Post, see how many pres and legendaries are up for sale then note how many people are wearing a legendary. Strange that the percentage ratio to pres dropping, which you need for a legendary is somehow skewed compared to how many months players; who’ve been around since release with 300% MF have yet to see a pre outside of the Trading Post.

If PvP in this game wasn’t polarized between zerker and bunker, players would have a reason to use other builds, gear and talent set ups. Reducing the chance for elitism. Now am I saying that it’s all A.net’s fault? No, but they certainly aren’t doing anything to address the problem. There aren’t any plans for dungeon tweaks, no revamps, no looking at reward vs risk for all content. Maybe if they gave a kitten about their game others would have better attitudes.

Dave.6819:

so the guy actually tries to play Thief and gets rekt and realises its not OP at all. then on his “main” class he gets rekt by thieves and says they are OP…. and cries for a nerf. facepalm …….. (i think that says it all)

you people should be literally banned from posting or your posts should be deleted. cuz if Anet will take your post seriously then we Thieves will be nerfed even more. and if you played one you probably realised theres nothing OP at all. #hardcorefacepalm….

so please stop. dont post such nonsence… its just a l2p issue / build issue / how to counter classes issue / time your dodge issue and etc etc. not some " omgomg thieves op…" issue. kthnxbai

Here is my research investigation result:

- 1st report thread of thief profession being problematic

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/If-you-believe-the-Thief-is-OP-post-in-this-thread/first#post76275

- 2nd report thread of thief profession being problematic. Arena net delete thread very fast: why? why nor investigate it and resolve problem first is present?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Thief-damage-is-OP/first#post67999

- 3rd report thread of thief profession being problematic.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/The-1-thing-that-sucks-about-a-thief/first#post66188

- 4th report thread of thief profession being problematic.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Broken-Stealth/first#post90491

- 5th report thread of thief profession being problematic

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Rework-Thief/first#post83648

- 6th report thread of thief profession being problematic

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/What-will-next-nerf-be

So now for 1 year later report thread of thief profession being problematic

- 1st report thread of thief profession being problematic: Arena net delete thread

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/The-Cheapest-Class

- 2nd report thread of thief profession being problematic

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Anet-could-you-explain-your-logic

- 3rd report thread of thief profession being problatic

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Stealth-has-to-reward-you-the-better-YOU-are

- 4th report thread of thief profession being problematic. Arena net remove evidence from youtube.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Thieves-uncatchable

- 5th report thread of thief profession being problematic.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Need-a-Hot-fix-for-Thief-damage

- 6th report thread of thief profession being problematic

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Thief-being-unfair-with-stealth-and-kitten

2 years + New year= 3 years of same thief profession being problematic is “nonsense”, “build issue”, “L2P issue”, “counter issue”, “how to counter classes issue”, “time your dodge issue”, “and etc etc”?

I want to add+

I research and I found this interesting thread: Yes! with same problems 2 years ago.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Stealth-and-why-it-reduces-depth-and-skill

" Stealth and why it reduces depth and skill "

: ‘The biggest problem with stealth right now in Guild Wars 2 is that there is no direct counter to it. Sure, you can swing your sword around like a maniac trying to connect with the thief but that isn’t really countering the stealth itself. I’d love to see ArenaNet add utility skills directly aimed at disabling stealth to promote more skillful play’.

Also by the way: I agree with your post and good suggestion/proposal: Supreme

Again, i find this thread interesting. Example: in real life: sometimes even your enemies can care and have compassion for you and will even help you.

Do you know how many enemies thief players help me in the game: save me?

Alot.

Thread like this make me feel: many thieves players care, have compassion and understand why we other professions are suffering by your profession and want to see serious change like us

That is all

Read this evidence.

“Guild Wars 2: Are Thieves And Mesmer’s The Cause Of The Meta?”

: ‘Two of Guild Wars 2’s classes are designed to kill players quickly. As a result, players have resorted to “tanky” builds to survive. Are the Thief and Mesmer to blame?’

: ’Having almost 8 seconds of stealth on a Thief, or a comfortable 6 seconds on a Mesmer without using an Elite is a long time. It provides a perfect opportunity to reposition for a spike when the opponent you’re facing simply has to stand there and predict when you’ll attack. There’s no reliable defence against stealth besides cleaving blindly. If there’s ever going to be build variety outside of the extremes of pure damage or pure defence, there has to be some sort of balance pass across Critical Hit Chance, Critical Hit Damage, Evasion and Stealth".

’ Without this, I suspect Guild Wars 2’s PvP will always be one of extremes ’.

http://www.tentonhammer.com/editorial/guild-wars-2-are-thieves-and-mesmers-cause-meta

" Sometimes it takes an outsider, someone with fresh eyes to see the truth ”

" Distance brings you closer to the truth "

To Lordrosicky:

" People say be real, tell what is the truth and be frank but the problems is when you do that people get angry and go against you ".

Lordrosicky.5813:

Jekkt.6045:

Cynz.9437:

people complain about stealth in pvp? wat?

thief went to reset? good… you got point, enjoy your match points~

also i love how people cry “omg thief can reset”…. and somehow forget to mention that the moment thief goes ooc their target is also ooc and gets to heal up…

i think it is hilarious to say that thief doesn’t get punished for failed attack… if anything thieves get punished the most for single mistake in game atm….

you don’t reset as a thief. you sit in stealth until crucial skills are off cooldown, like steal or withdraw, and then you go at it again. or you sit out invul skills in stealth, another gimmick that renders other classes’ defensive skills useless. thieves don’t get punished for single mistakes at all. thieves have on demand teleports that can save their kitten s in most situations and make cc useless if you don’t force the 2 stunbreaks before.

thief is also the only class in the game that is unkiteable as they have teleports that are not tied to cooldowns while other classes’ teleports are on a 30-40s cooldown. so if a thief wants to chase you he will do so and you will not get away most of the time.

the only classes that can face a thief are celestial classes that bring self sustain and a mix of direct damage and condition attrition or guardians because they have the needed aoe damage with good sustain and blocks, this will change though as soon as thieves will be able to run 3 traitlines, in fact thieves with vampire runes can already kill guardians because mist form will save them when they eat a mighty blow combo or get trapped by the ring.

the thief’s class design is broken and to fix it they would have to overhaul the whole class which is obviously not gonna happen.

they learned their lesson with energy ressource or why else do revenants have actual cooldowns on their skills + the energy cost.

Agreed

Same

Tigaseye.2047:

Have to be honest, this thread reads like a commercial.

*You know, one of those ones that is full of glowing “customer testimonials”?

It’s kind of funny to me how that can happen in a single thread, when other parts of the forum are full of constructive criticism (with no developer replies)*.

" A successful person is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks that others throw at him or her "

" But what is the good of friendship if one cannot say exactly what one means? Anybody can say charming things and try to please and to flatter, but a true friend always says unpleasant things, and does not mind giving pain. Indeed, if he is a really true friend he prefers it, for he knows that then he is doing good ".

Here is solution Peow Peow:

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Ninja

http://www.novacrystallis.com/2015/03/talking-heavensward-jobs-game-balance-more-with-final-fantasy-xiv-director-naoki-yoshida/

-Jobs/Professions-

" Director Naoki Yoshida: he explained. We’ll also be balancing the Astrologian similar to that, having some pluses and minuses for each job/profession for balance ".

" However, the goal of balance for us is so that all jobs can be balanced and used and players can have fun with the job they want to play "

Plus+Minuses= Challenge, Fun, Risk-Reward and Balance

It is obvious i do not care about sharing build (I am not original owner of builds) because i no longer play this game because of game requirements: no challenge, no fun, no effort, no hard-work, no risks, no skills but only free-rewards. Why should i waste time and pretend there is care and fun?

" You’re not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can’t face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it "

These builds is evidence of that.

-Obvious! I am playing other games of companies who will never allow these requirements or tolerate these requirements. Fun and Care Are Required and are First Priority -

Enjoy~

http://de.gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQNAoYVlsMp0pVOxxJ8PNBMBtdHKRG8aNangdHAA-T1BEwAGeAAM3fU+xS9nOaDarDAwJAYrSQyAkPBA-w

http://de.gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQNAoYVlsMpyplOx7J8PNhORs9RQF3pfnd1D-TVCEABps/ABPAgEV/ZLlgMp8zgTAQb6DA4IA8whAgQACGDA-w

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fZEQNAoYVlsMp0pdOx7J8PNRLRsdY3LX5a/EcA-T1RBABRcCFua/R5He6bW4QAAwTKgS1fMTJYAAEgb2mt5Nzm38m3sbezbez2sMA6jB-w

Extreme Burst Builds/100%+ Instant Kill Guaranteed

-If you are interested in other professions (exclude Necromancer Profession) High Burst builds/Instant Kill build: ask — if Arena net do not ban me --

I want to share this with you.

-That is all-

Grimreaper.5370:

I feel like they’re going about redesigning the class all wrong! I think its fine if they take away boons or spells upon dodging, but dear god don’t just replace those traits with other passives that make the Elementalist passively soak up damage! Anet you talk about trying to become an Esport yet you throw us traits that a toddler could take full advantage of. You can’t build a class around passives and expect to become an Esport, there needs to be a challenge behind playing every class! Players should feel like they EARNED that kill because they outplayed their opponent! As of now almost none of your classes provide much skill to play. Its all about rock paper shotgun.

Design classes that provide great risk for huge rewards, design classes that are hard to master, design classes that have huge learning curves and high skill caps, design classes that take years to master. THIS IS HOW YOU ESPORT!

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" Customers may forget what you said but they’ll never forget how you made them feel "

" If we don’t take care of our customers, someone else will "

" Your customers doesn’t care how much you know until they know how much you care "

RedSpectrum.1975:

I’m going to say engineer so hard, they can hit you with way more conditions than you can effectively deal with

I stopped wvw because no risk, no effort is required: only free reward and more free reward for that is all. Include: Pvp and Pve.

It only took me couple of months to see that: not 2-3 years like other players who refuse to see that or in-denial of it.

I remember my first experience in wvw: 1 minute in wvw: i was instant down by a invisible profession than i was instant killed in down-state and still could not see what killed me.

So what did i do: i post my experience in the forum want to know what happened and why there was no down-state skills to attack that invisible/stealth profession- there was none.

That is what the first “nail-in-the-coffin” withdraw of playing wvw.

I say to myself include other players: did Arena net advertize Guild Wars 2 to be friendly to new players? so where is it? Than i realize it was a lie and i feel deception because after more months playing wvw/pvp: i see all the evidence of it. So i finally stopped wasting my time be lie to and be deception.

I tell myself, i will not waste my time anymore for believing the lie. I already have 2 infractions already: why? for wanting change: fun and challenge and risk-reward, that is all. Yes! only for that and Arena net punish me.

So why should i continue playing this game? So why should i buy the expansion if this is what Arena net do? How about if i get more infractions for wanting same in the new expansion? Is that fair?

Wanting change for good should not be punished but be appreciated. Why waste time for being with a company who want to punish me for want anything good? Why waste time for being with a company who want to punish me for want effort and hard-work first before reward? Why waste time for being with a company who want to punish me for want fun for Guild Wars 2?

I finally research: 2-3 years: a lot of player who want change for good: effort, hard-work= reward were punished also. I wish i investigated earlier and never play this game at all with a company who only want bad things for their games and punish any thing that want good for it.

Did i quit? No! When Arena net appreciate players who want good change and remove all of their infractions and make serious change to the game: i will play again and take seriously.

" Everyone want the truth but no one wants to be honest "

" We learned about honesty and integrity – that the truth matters… that you don’t take shortcuts or play by your own set of rules.. "

" It isn’t good to punish those who aren’t guilty- just because they are honest "

" Once honesty start talking, honesty become a threat "

" Honest hearts produce honest actions "

" The roots of all goodness lie in the soil of appreciation for goodness "

" If there is no struggle, there is no progress "

( My last punishment is coming: I took risk- only want good things for game. I will always continue to believe hard-work, effort and risk come first before reward and fun-. go to where they are. So it is ok, This will be my last post: take care players, it was good/bad experience- advice and i learned a lot and still learning. Take care all players )

Korppi.8452:

Hackers was encountered again just right now. It is unbelievable that ANET has not done anything to get this guy banned or adapted their code to block this hack. In any other serious MMO this hacker would have been banned right a way but not in GW2.
Not to mention that there are many new players who try out EOTM and what they encounter? Invisible hacker who shows middle finger to whole community and makes ANET look like very bad.

Puck.1509:

Yeah like i have been desperately trying to get across was just that bad apples slamming a net woth constant problems, do you think it merely takes a click to resolve a balance or incorperate a whole new pvp leaderboard system at the same time. 4 years is a long time but personally i feel they have done a good job since the first time i played on launch. I think people fail to remember just how much work has been put into this game.
They need more appreciation. Could you imagine doing your best for the game and its fan base to consistently get negative feedback? Like i said to begin with on this thread. Lets focus on the positives an give them solutions to boosting the game rather than problems that waste their time an only add pressure!

" Could you imagine doing your best for the game and its fan base to consistently get negative feedback?"

Evidence?

Read these.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/My-opinion-of-PvP/page/2#post311575

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/You-said-eSport

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Is-burst-damage-really-this-bad

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Thiefs-Discussion-Thread-Merged/page/9

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/sPvP-things-to-come/first

Any more evidence?

That is all.

You mention Mechanic and Responsiveness work really well…. well, it is only your opinion: only yours- I respect it.

" People believe what they want to believe, even though Truth staring dead in their eyes "

-In your video: I agree with your opinion about Arena net not care for Pvp. Obvious, the evidence is everywhere-

That is all.

I have no other comment.

Drennon.7190:

Breaking News:

Rare photo of Darksyze revealed.

Interesting

As always, it is Arena net the one always laughing in making the game not fun and challenging.

Again, I am having fun and challenge with playing other game companies games who make fun+challenging, risk-reward their business ethic and their business model.

Those who want a challenge+fun and risk-reward game(s): you know where to meet me

“Guild Wars 2=Fun-Factor”

" A single lie destroys a whole reputation for integrity ”

" Yeah, it never fails to amaze me how a single lie can undo an entire lifetime of good "

What is interesting: it take a bug to fix thief most problematic mechanic : Stealth

Yes,

A Bug!

Gaab.4257:

DarkSyze.8627:

Gaab.4257:

All those nice theories at anet, why to change something, why to take away something.

It’s all nice but where is the FUN? Isn’t GW a game somewhere, that people play for fun?

Fun?

It is not nice when there is no Fun to play against this profession. GW should be a game somewhere, that people play for fun but it is not. That is why change-challenge must be enforce to make it happen.

-You can not talk about one without the other-

Sorry but… WHAT ?!

I want to share something with you include Elementalists players that is very interesting.

In my research and investigation: In 2005 something happened that enforced fun and challenge in Guild Wars by Arena net. It is Arena net no longer refusing to tolerate anything that threat fun and challenge.

What was that threat?

Spike Damage/ Burst Damage.

Why was it a threat?

“A spiker is a player who inflicts massive amounts of damage to a single target in a short period of time, with the goal of taking them down quickly”.

What was Arena net serious action against this non-challenge and non-fun threat?

“The spell Chain Lightning was made weaker in the summer of 2005 by reducing its damage and increasing its activation time. This made it less potent and easier to disrupt. This was in response to the domination of PvP teams that were composed of Air Magic spikers”.

You can read more in the link: with more surprises.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nerf

Power Creep/ Zerker

Why was it a threat?

“Power creep is the gradual unbalancing of a game due to successive releases of new content. As new expansions or updates are released, new game mechanics or effects are introduced making it increasingly difficult for older content to remain in balance without changes. Usually, this means new content releases grow successively more powerful (hence “power creep”) while older content becomes relatively underpowered".

What was Arena net serious action against this non-challenge and non-fun threat?

“In Guild Wars (and other computer games), developers are able to release updates which alter older content to try to keep balance. ArenaNet performs major rebalancing after the end of each tournament season”.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Power_creep

Last: I encourage Arena net to not forget their roots: of doing their best to make Guild Wars—-2: a fun+challenge game and to take serious action against any threat that want to destroy it. Not to forget their players who just want a fun and a challenge game.

-that is all-

I want to share this:

" Respect other people opinion is very important; it can help us to understand that nobody is perfect and every body thinks different. Respecting others opinions does not mean being untrue to our own. It just recognizing that everyone thinks different and when they share their views with us they can expect a fair hearing. Is hard when we believe something and we share it, and someone else have a different opinion and they criticize how we think. Trying to understand others point of views is important because it help us to know more about life and people.
Understanding other people will help us to be humbles and to have an open mind "

" People are entitled to their opinions and should be free to do so as long as they articulate their feelings with respect for others. But when people decide to share their opinions in a way that is meant to hurt another person’s feelings, that is when they have crossed the line "

Harper.4173:

Thank you DarkSyze – I’ve read through all of it but really don’t see how it relates to our problem.
The only connection I can make has been addressed in my post above. What are your thoughts?

I agree with you and it make sense. Like i always read from other players posts also " As long Arena net make sales, they do not need us "

Oh Well!

Why even continue to waste my other time writing in the forum than? I already spending very little time with the game: it make more sense to not waste any of my time at all.

(I picture Arena net laughing at us players who use our time to report problems: the joke was always us players: no serious solution, no serious anything-the evidence are everywhere: Same laughing 3 years+ ago, same laughing now )

" There is no humiliation more abusive than being taken advantage of "

“The problem with difficulty in games is that people are starting to not recognize the difference between a game that’s actually difficult, and a game that’s broken and one of the only reasons they keep losing is because of bad game design or a glitch”.

“People have become so “used” to their idea of what an easy game that they are willing to praise anything that they perceive as difficult, even if that means that the game is broken by design. They want to test their mettle against games so much because they have something to prove when they beat a game even if that game functionally doesn’t work as well as it should”.

“They get a false sense of achievement from something that should have been difficult in a way that worked, rather than a way where you had to adapt to a terrible system. Difficulty in games is fine, but there is a difference between what is truly difficult and what is just an exercise in futility”.

Over the years games that are genuinely difficult at the start of the game are getting harder and harder to find and now hardcore gamers are desperate to prove themselves. It is like a trial by fire for them, even if the fire they are trying to escape is in a furnace with a window that it just big enough for them to fit through".

" They see any difficulty as good difficulty and will get angry at anyone who says otherwise, because the other person should just “Get Good” in order to destroy something that they are essentially crippled against. There is a difference between a good game that is difficult and a game that is disguised to be a good difficult game under cheap armor. It’s just a matter of tearing off the armor to see the good or bad game inside".

“This is why a lot of games that have been difficult in the past or a little unforgiving, like the Fire Emblem Series, have added the “casual mode” difficulty in Awakening, in order to appeal to newer players, which managed to successfully save their franchise”.

“They also managed to put in Nightmare difficulty for the veterans of the game, simultaneously pleasing both newbies to the series and those who had been playing it for years. This gave the series a perfect balance of difficulty, even with the so-called “casualfication” of the series as a whole”.

“There are of course niche games like Roguelikes, survival games and others that are always an exercise in patience when it comes to playing them. These are the sort of games like Neo Scavenger, that use the game mechanics itself and simple logic on what one needs to survive. It’s a difficult game, but with every game over you realize your mistakes and you learn from them”.

“A game that doesn’t do this, is Dark Souls 2. While its predecessors Demon’s Souls and Dark Souls have a reputation for being difficult but fair, but this one on the other hand has an issue with its hit boxes. If you roll out of the way, your hit box doesn’t always come with you, causing you to be struck just when you thought you magnificently dodged a move”.

“While some can say it “forces you to adapt to its own brand of difficulty” it really shows the fact that the game designers just designed the game badly in order to give you a false sense of difficulty. It is an achievement to beat Dark Souls 2, yes, but that isn’t from the game’s difficulty by good game design, it’s because of how broken the game actually is”.

To Harper: link with quotes

“False Difficulty In Video Games”

“There is a difference between a good game that is difficult and a game that is disguised to be a good difficult game under cheap armor”.

By Artemis, Posted 23 Jan 2015

“Difficulty in video games is a complicated thing to talk about, because every person has their own definition of what it difficult and what is not. Something that you find hard in a game might not be something your friend finds difficult and vice versa. Even if something people find universally difficult, you will always find that small group of people that just breezed through it like it didn’t matter at all”.

“Nowadays, difficulty in games seems to be an added “bonus” to gamers, since the general consensus is that games are being made too easy nowadays. However, there seems to be a misunderstanding as to what real difficulty is and what bad game design is”.

“For example: the Castlevania games from the NES era. These games, while difficult, used their game design to teach the player when they should attack and when they should back off. Nearly all of the player’s mistakes weren’t the fault of the game but the fault of the player themselves. The Mega Man games did something similar, using their game design to teach the players about the difficulty rather than just not telling them anything”.

“If you look at a game like Jekyll and Hyde though, it almost doesn’t tell a gamer anything through design or even text boxes. The difference is that, no matter what, the game sets you up for failure, and you’d have to spend more time with it than you have to spend time with something like Mega Man. Not because of good game design or difficulty, because you can’t find out how to conquer the thing”.

“Back in those days however, this is somewhat forgivable because games were just starting to gain a following and there was no real standard on how to make your games frustratingly hard but “fun”.

“Nowadays though, a sort of standard has been set, with books about game design being written and those young gamers from the early days of gaming have grown as well, along with their tastes. People have expressed what they like and dislike, and with developers trying to cater to both the hardcore demographic and the new gamer crowd that’s been seemingly coming out of the woodwork”.

“Developers now have the difficult job of trying to appease everyone and to make a game that is strictly difficult and nothing else might result in less overall sales, which from a business standpoint isn’t a good thing”.

Obtena.7952:

Arrk.4102:

Obtena.7952:

Arrk.4102:

How does dragonhunter make sense? Does a Warrior not hunt dragons when he plays LS. Does an Engineer not do that? Or is the Guardian the only one who can actually kill the dragon?

How many times are people going to use this argument? It’s stupid. Anyone can hunt something but hunters have specific hunting tools for their targets. Just don’t.

What about my ranger who was both the traps and the longbow (the tools needed)?

What about it? Are you suggesting that DH doesn’t make sense because it shares a weapon and a skill category with another class? I think you’re running out of straws to grasp here. I can use that argument to suggest that EVERY class in this game doesn’t make sense RIGHT NOW.

Arrk is correct!

It is not about sharing weapon and a skill category with another class: it is about enforcing the main role of the guardian profession and and preserve their roots.

Evidence+Support 1

" Guardians are devoted fighters who protect their allies and smite their enemies by drawing from the power of their virtues. True guardians are brilliant tacticians and selfless defenders who know when to sacrifice their own defenses to empower their allies to achieve victory "

" The guardian is a soldier profession and wears heavy armor "

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guardian

“Guild Wars 2 Guardian Profession Guide — The Hero We Need "

“How You Play A Guardian”:

" While the MMO holy trinity of tank, healer, DPS is all but gone in Guild Wars 2, the Guardian is still primarily designed for support. That doesn’t mean you can’t deal out damage or there’s no point to playing a Guardian solo, or even that they’re necessary to completing some of Guild Wars 2’s tougher challenges, but just know that they support better than pretty much any other Profession, so people may want you to fulfill that role".

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/727798/guild-wars-2-guardian-profession-guide-the-hero-we-need/

vs

Ranger Profession role.

“Rangers rely on a keen eye, a steady hand, and the power of nature itself. Unparalleled archers, rangers are capable of bringing down foes from a distance with their bows. With traps, nature spirits, and a stable of loyal pets at their command, rangers can adapt to any situation”

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ranger
" The ranger is an adventurer profession "

Evidence+Support 2

“Guild Wars 2: Choosing The Best Profession For Your Playstyle”

" Picking the best profession for you can be tough, especially in Guild Wars 2?. There are eight total professions and each one plays very differently "

" Soldier Professions "

Professions: Warrior, Guardian and Revenant (soon)
Armor: Heavy

“The soldier profession is for those who want to stand right in the frontline of battle. Soldiers are in the thick of battle and work hard to control it, avoiding damage, supporting allies, and dealing the pain right back at their enemies. Control is critical to both soldier professions, even though they are not “tanks” (as there is no holy trinity of tanks, healers, and DPS), they are still hearty and their playstyle focuses on not only dealing damage, but mitigating it”.

“If you want to stand toe to toe with the enemy, then the soldier professions are perfect for you. Thanks to Guild Wars 2’s combat system, both professions are not exclusive to melee. They can also act as ranged professions utilizing rifle and bow (warrior) and Scepters (guardian)”.

" Adventurer Professions "

Professions: Ranger, Engineer, and Thief
Armor: Medium

“If being a heavy hitting heavy armor wearing close combat specialist isn’t your thing or casting magical spells with the flick of a wrist, then the adventurer is probably for you. These professions are slightly squishier and are are primarily designed to deal high damage while bringing some utility. These are the unique and fun professions that don’t lock themselves into either “melee specialist” or “magic specialist” and instead focus on their unique profession mechanics. Adventurers fall in line with rogues and hunters from other MMOs”.

“If you want to wear medium armor and focus on things like bows and firearms, then the adventurer is right for you. They focus on both close combat and ranged combat and use a variety of weapons, with a heavy focus on ranged weaponry”.

http://www.tentonhammer.com/guides/basics/choosing-best-profession

rapthorne.7345:

I understand your point, OP. However this is a fault of the players, not just game design.

There will ALWAYS be players that look to find the fastest/most efficient method of doing content no matter the sacrifice in fun (look at how fast chest farm arose from silverwastes), that is not something any form of design principles can fix

read:

" There is a difference between a good game that is difficult and a game that is disguised to be a good difficult game under cheap armor ".

http://www.noobfeed.com/features/414/false-difficulty-in-video-games

Animosity.5968:

So I’ve played since launch and lately I cant even log in because the game is so boring to me. I PvE, mostly dungeon or fotm and this zerker meta is literally killing the game. Just recently a old gw2 member named Nemesis uploaded a video on this subject and he hit alot of points that I’ve noticed and even more than I didn’t notice. (GJ nemesis!)

So this meta is all about DPS, Corner stacking, Glitching and exploiting.. Some evidence…

-The meta is DPS because its all Zerker gear (out of the 23 stat prefix’s, guess anet just wanted to make different stat gear for giggles)

-Corner stacking doesn’t need evidence, everyone has done it but it’s common in MMO’s and isn’t a problem unless it’s mixed with the other 3 parts of the meta.

-Glitching is a serious problem but people do it and it’s literally accepted as part of the meta. A few examples are CM attacking people through walls, CM climbing wall by Frost in P1 to take 0 damage, CM P2 running the boss between 2 plateau’s to become completely stuck, etc. I only mentioned CM but there’s glitching in every dungeon, just youtube “gw2 Glitch (whatever dungeon)” and you’ll be met with video proof.

- Exploiting is just stupid and yet people still do it to Lupi with reflecting his attacks to down him in seconds. Obviously this isn’t challenging content for a boss in a dungeon yet now it’s accepted as ok? wtf man. There are more but I draw a fine line between glitching and exploiting so i’ll let you choose.

So as nemesis states in his video “Gw2 abondonded the holy trinity to become…just dps?” It’s literally gotten to a point where people are stating that certain classes are sub par and should not be taken for optimal dps. How is this better? I for one think it’s literally ludicious and now with HoT coming I’m sending the Dev’s a message…" You have the opportunity to fix what has been left to grow into such a big problem. The ball’s in your court, Please stay true to your word to make this MMO the be all end all MMO"

Just so you know (Nemesis says this as well), 3.5 million copies of the game has been sold since launch but only 443k views on the expansion reveal video. These number’s are fairly alarming as the majority of players still interested in the game would of watched the video already. New or returning players will be greeted by looking up videos of corner stacking, glitching, all dps numbers and most likely turn away from the game as it’s bad advertising.

What does everyone else think about gw2 current state? Is all this ok?

Link to Nemesis video as it’s very informative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js5ltIBr73s

You are correct! I completely agree with everything you say. If i were to post evidence of everything you say: it would take more than 100+ pages because i do have them.

My only questions to Arena net: You have too many evidence of everything that is happening in the game (3 Years+ beta testing), how many evidences do you need and want to give your players a challenge and fun game? To enforce Hard-Work, Effort, Risk-Reward? To take serious action anything that is against it and to make serious change for the game in a positive way?

Kaleban.9834:

DarkSyze.8627:

Gaab.4257:

All those nice theories at anet, why to change something, why to take away something.

It’s all nice but where is the FUN? Isn’t GW a game somewhere, that people play for fun?

Fun?

It is not nice when there is no Fun to play against this profession. GW should be a game somewhere, that people play for fun but it is not. That is why change-challenge must be enforce to make it happen.

Challenge can not exist without Fun: can not separated at all. If anyone Dare break them apart: will only result in sever punishment and sever consequence.

The evidence is everywhere and will continue to spread without no control. Arena net sales and popularity is not improving: it is sever decreasing because of this.

The only way for Arena net to redemption is to surrender to challenge and enforce it.

Here are the list of Profession that are in sever Violation of Challenge and must be enforced for Fun and Challenge to be harmony together.

Ranger, Elementalist, Thief and Engineer.

When Enforcement of Challenge is Enforced: than you can say the word Fun.

-You can not talk about one without the other-

All Your Base Are Belong To Us?

My brain had a seizure reading this, but I get the point, that balance of the professions is key to competitive, and fun gameplay.

The problem with the premise of your argument though is that you determine what is fun, whereas someone else’s definition may be different. Eles do not DOMINATE any game mode, they’re decent to good in most, but are not the overpowering, destructive force you allude to.

And really, its not even a problem. The Ele (and Engineer) are the most difficult professions to play, and if they are played skillfully SHOULD reward the player with consistent victory. Otherwise, you’re punishing players who would pick those professions so that scrubs who noobcannon their way through the game with Warriors and Guardians can feel good about crushing Scholars.

Where is “skill”?
Where is “Challenge”?
Where is “Fun”?
Where is “Hard-Work”?
Where is “Effort”?
Why so many rewards: for free?
Change-Nerf: where?

I am so glad many mmo’s include new mmo companies do not tolerate this in their games. They make challenge+Fun, Risk-Reward first priority

If you want to play challenge+fun, risk-reward game(s), i will meet you there… until Arena net make serious change and take serious action

" Action expresses priorities and solutions "

Gaab.4257:

All those nice theories at anet, why to change something, why to take away something.

It’s all nice but where is the FUN? Isn’t GW a game somewhere, that people play for fun?

Fun?

It is not nice when there is no Fun to play against this profession. GW should be a game somewhere, that people play for fun but it is not. That is why change-challenge must be enforce to make it happen.

Challenge can not exist without Fun: can not separated at all. If anyone Dare break them apart: will only result in sever punishment and sever consequence.

The evidence is everywhere and will continue to spread without no control. Arena net sales and popularity is not improving: it is sever decreasing because of this.

The only way for Arena net to redemption is to surrender to challenge and enforce it.

Here are the list of Profession that are in sever Violation of Challenge and must be enforced for Fun and Challenge to be harmony together.

Ranger, Elementalist, Thief and Engineer.

When Enforcement of Challenge is Enforced: than you can say the word Fun.

-You can not talk about one without the other-

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

WhiteCrow.5310:

Indeed. The PvP and Necro forums will be nerf central for the first few weeks when all this drops. I guarantee it. Some of it may be valid, but I’ll bet money that most of it won’t be and here’s why: People have gotten used to the state of Necro, and just how easy it can be to shut them down and drop them. Having trouble with them, and even losing to them regularly will simply be unacceptable. Mark my words.

^ This is my biggest worry. The class looks okay now. But they may end up destroying it with a future nerf. A very near future nerf.

It will be much sooner than that. My perdition: less than 3 month.

Read this sad thread: no solution since 3 years.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/DO-SOMETHING-I-know-we-have-to-wait-for-balance-etc

Tabootrinket.2631:

I’m not worried at all. If they’ve elaborated so much “counter-measures” to thieves, I believe it means we’ll have nastier abilities ourselves (especially if our spec is based on mesmer)

“You give Arena net more reason to destroy Necromancer roots”

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Meet-the-Reaper/page/7#post5071681

“One who has learned to draw power from the blood sacrifice and communion with death, the Necromancer uses black magic to cast curses and raise undead minions”.

“http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Necromancer

Finally: a Necromancer player agree with me and see what is really happening to the Necromancer Profession.

" A tree stands strong not by its fruits or branches,but by the depth of its roots ”

" Don’t rush into something just because it looks good, because a lot of things that look good aren’t always good for you "

“ There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true ”

-The Reaper is a excuse for Arena net to continue ignore the Necromancer roots and their role-

Be ready for the end of Necromancer once the reaper arrive.

Nonsense? Congratulation! on your new “innovated specialization”. I believe in preserving original ideas and improving them with meaningful innovation.

You give Arena net more reason to destroy Necromancer roots. So now Necromancer is Grenth, than next will be something else, than something else…..

Good Luck!

I no longer will support Necromancer Profession and will no longer continue Sympathize whatever happen to that profession.

By the way…

Necromancer Profession is not a God, Necromancer is not Grenth. A person who practive Necromancy is not a God.

“Necromancy /?n?kr??mænsi/ or nigromancy is a form of magic involving communication with the deceased – either by summoning their spirit as an apparition or raising them bodily – for the purpose of divination, imparting the means to foretell future events or discover hidden knowledge, or to use the deceased as a weapon, as the term may sometimes be used in a more general sense to refer to black magic or witchcraft "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necromancy

“Necromancers , calling on the spirits of the dead, and even death itself, to overpower enemies and assist allies. In sacrificing Health and taking curses and diseases upon themselves, they can deal large amounts of damage to those foolish enough to oppose them. Dead and dying enemies become unwilling allies in their hands. Necromancers have the singular ability to absorb Energy from an enemy’s death, and can raise a fighting force from the corpses of their foes. Curses, which of often cost the Necromancer dearly, exact an even greater toll from enemies, who find that their Enchantments and healing skills are rendered useless. Due to the sacrificial nature of their methods, Necromancers must practice patience and self-discipline to survive”.

“One who has learned to draw power from the blood sacrifice and communion with death, the Necromancer uses black magic to cast curses and raise undead minions”.

“http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Necromancer

Again,

Good Luck!

Shifu.4321:

DarkSyze.8627:

Meet: The Reaper
- That was suppose to be for The Necromancer Profession
——————————————————————————————————————-

I Am Very Disappointed!!

Why? Is this what a reaper is? With a Great sword? and with chill Element?

Is not Chill Element belong to Elementalist Profession? What connection/relationship does communicating with the dead and raising the dead spirits have with an element?
Absolutely~ Nothing!!

So all of sudden: a necromancer profession become a element focus?

What connection/relationship does reaper have with great sword? Absolutely-Nothing?

Reaper: “A reaper is a farming tool or person that reaps (cuts and gathers) crops at harvest, when they are ripe. – Hand reaping is done by various means, including plucking the ears of grains directly by hand, cutting the grain stalks with a sickle, cutting them with a scythe, or with a later type of scythe called a cradle”

I do not see great sword as a reaper farming tool: where is it?

Last:

First it was Guardian Profession: Dragon Hunter which make Absolute No Sense! with its profession role, Now it is Necromancer Profession: Reaper which make same Absolute No Sense! with its profession role..

I feel Arena net is refusing to innovate the Guardian Profession and the Necromancer Profession into something more meaningful and wonderful.

" Creativity is the process of having original ideas that have value "

Moot point since there is no “scythe” weapon in the game unless you count the staff skins that look like scythes.

I see that you do not play Necromancer Profession.

Necromancer Profession! have a weapon skill that use Scythe attack that is called: Reaper’s Scythe. There is even a Scythe image in the skill.

It make sense to give the necromancer profession a Scythe weapon in connection/relationship with the skill, so why Arena net did not?

Again,

What connection/relationship/value and original ideas do Great Sword have with Necromancer profession?

What connection/relationship and value do a profession who communicate with the dead and raising the dead spirit have to do with a element?

Absolutely,

Nothing!

Elementalist — “Master of the elements; elementalists change their elemental attunement in battle to adapt to any situation”.

Examples: Elements?

1. Fire
2. Ice
3. Thunder
4. Earth
5. Wind
6. Water

Etc…

Necromancer — “Master of the dark arts; necromancers draw on life force and use it to strengthen or heal themselves and other”

Examples: Dark Arts?

1. Black Magic
2. Necromancy
3. Sorcery

Etc…
———————————————————————————————————-

“What does the Reaper carry – a Sickle or Scythe?”

“In the aspect of the reaper or harvester, this is the spirit of death cutting down humans to harvest the souls”.

Meet: The Reaper
- That was suppose to be for The Necromancer Profession
——————————————————————————————————————-

I Am Very Disappointed!!

Why? Is this what a reaper is? With a Great sword? and with chill Element?

Is not Chill Element belong to Elementalist Profession? What connection/relationship does communicating with the dead and raising the dead spirits have with an element?
Absolutely~ Nothing!!

So all of sudden: a necromancer profession become a element focus?

What connection/relationship does reaper have with great sword? Absolutely-Nothing?

Reaper: “A reaper is a farming tool or person that reaps (cuts and gathers) crops at harvest, when they are ripe. – Hand reaping is done by various means, including plucking the ears of grains directly by hand, cutting the grain stalks with a sickle, cutting them with a scythe, or with a later type of scythe called a cradle”

I do not see great sword as a reaper farming tool: where is it?

Sickle, Cradle and Scythe?

“In the aspect of the reaper or harvester, this is the spirit of death cutting down humans to harvest the souls”

Last:

First it was Guardian Profession: Dragon Hunter which make Absolute No Sense! with its profession role, Now it is Necromancer Profession: Reaper which make same Absolute No Sense! with its profession role..

I feel Arena net is refusing to innovate the Guardian Profession and the Necromancer Profession into something more meaningful and wonderful.

" Creativity is the process of having original ideas that have value "

Cynz.9437:

Engis have too much of everything on too short CD. Specializations are not bringing any hope either. I could write a whole essay about why but i has been posted countless times.

WTB nerfs/changes:
- slick shoes need either longer CD or apply knockdown only once per circle and not be stackable (after stab changes this spell is just unproportionally amazing)
- gear shield needs longer CD
- healing turret either needs longer CD or longer cast time
- (arguable) kits need to have CD like attunements
- CC in general needs to be toned down (see rifle) weither via longer CD, shorter duration on immob, anything really
- IP needs an icon and longer ICD
- kits need an icon; you can’t tell what kit engi is in unless you zoom in (and actually see anything in massive sparkle spam) or let them use spells

@Anet: stop buffing engis, the class is unpopular because of lame looks, lame looking spells and just awkward dps rotation in pve. Overbuffing them in pvp won’t make them popoular generally.

Solutions:
- remove hobosack
- make engi spells/gadgets etc. sparky (see asura turrets, asura bombs etc.; add turret/kits/bombs skins in gem store!!???)
- give simple dps rotation for pve so you don’t need rocket science to pull as much dps as zerker war in dungeons

/2cents

P.S. don’t bring “omg necros counter engis” that was true before celestial, now even necros get crapped on by engis tnks to celestial amy/CCs

Neko.9021:

And so they day has finally come. When the update comes, no more tons of boons and free spells on dodge. Eles must choose what to put in that GM tier if they go Arcana!

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/33qrg0/specialization_ama_livestream_notes/

No hard-work, No effort, No reward with No risk, No challenge= No more free anything.

You are correct!

" People who make the choice to study, work hard or do… give it the max on themselves to reach to the top level. And you have the people who… are not willing to put that work in, they want to get the same praise "

" You don’t learn from successes; you don’t learn from awards; you don’t learn from celebrity; you only learn from wounds and scars and mistakes and failures. And that’s the truth "

" The higher up you go, the more mistakes you are allowed. Right at the top, if you make enough of them, it’s considered to be your style "

Bomber.3872:

Could you all please stop to write here about the update amount or value? There are really enough threads already where you can discuss that.
Some weeks after gw2 release anet introduced a byweekly updatecycle for alot of good reasons (not major cotent! Just updates like fixes, gemstore, skill changes,…). Some reasons have been:
- update size. People which use gw2 during travelling or with limited monthly data could plan that updates that are more then a high priority emergency fix will only be introduced every 2 weeks on tuesday.
- Events will usually be in gw2 during this 2 week cycle or 4 weeks, if not otherwise stated.
- Gemshop Items or BL Skins will only be introduced or change on these update dates
- you can take these dates to try to get bugged events/merchants after update
- you were safe not to miss any ingame event or thing if it wasn’t introduced on these tuesdays
- these dates were fixed for updates. If update was delayed or there was no update at all then anet wrote it on twitter/facebook, on their website, during PoI, or at least a dev or gaile wrote it on this forum!

These last point is why I’m concerned right now. Why has there been no information at all about this tuesday? And does that mean that these sure byweekly updatecycle is no more and so that we silently actually went back to the same problems that existed over 2 years ago after gw2 release?
Or has there been any information and I just didn’t find it?

First: you are angry at us players for not doing research for information.
Second: you are asking us players questions to why there is no information.
Third: you are concern like us players.

I do not understand? It make no sense at all.

Tragic Positive.9356:

TheFool.4589:

Dunno guys, just wanted to know why a great sword? They have axes, and swords for melee. Was just wondering, lol

Because Aragorn from Lord of The Rings Series is one example of a Ranger theme.
And what was he using? Could you guess?

Games and not even reality are made on “1 weapon per mode” basis.
Are Rangers capable of fighting with Greatswords? Yes. Does it fit thematically? Hell yea!

What would be the problem then?
Greatsword is awesome for “defensive utility stance”. Has the block, CC, lots of passive evade, has mobility, spiky damage. In case you asked for the use, and not the thematic filter.

So why not thief profession have greatsword? They have block, CC, lots of passive evade, have mobility and spike damage?

It would not make sense correct?

Same reason why it do not make sense for ranger profession to have greatsword.

Greatsword is a heavy weapon: how do a light armor and medium armor able to carry and swing this heavy weapon with high speed with accuracy without breaking their arm?

If it is a fantasy game: give all professions heavy weapons and delete heavy armor professions: warrior and guardian profession.

Give ranger profession hammer, mace, give them all warrior/guardian professions weapons, why not?

After doing that: delete warrior/guardian profession: why not?

Why waste their time and energy in the game if every profession can carry heavy armors like them: even better than them?

What is the sense of having diferent armors/weapon stats in the game: if they all can do the same thing?

The Op is correct to ask: It do not make any sense at all!

Question: cats and birds: they both are fast, they both can see far, they both can hear far, so why not give cats wings like birds to fly?

Again, Do you understand why it do not make sense?

Zero Day.2594:

DarkSyze.8627:

" Worry is rust upon the blade "

Not sure what you mean by that…
But I guess if the blade is stuck in you, thus going to rust in you eventually, and you’re worried about pulling it out… Yeah I could agree…

DarkSyze.8627:

" Put a Band-Aid on it (instead of fully treating the injury) "

Well… It kind of works like that and kind of doesn’t. As in with enough nerfs, surely, 99% of the people will find the class “counterable” or easier to deal with… Though there still remains that 1%. Kind of like those antiseptic wipes you use to clean things with, kills 99% of the germs! (Lives the 1% to kill you! – or maybe they’re harmless who knows, I haven’t died yet).

DarkSyze.8627:

" You cannot run away from your problems. A problem is a problem until you get to the root of the problem "

" Stop Fixing the Symptoms…Find the Root Cause Instead "

Oh man, couldn’t agree with you more man. Though sometimes when you’re trying too hard to find the problem, that very well may be the problem and is causing you not to see things clearly. That or you might not be looking at all the places.

Awesome! Well Done! Zero Day

Turk.5460:

DarkSyze.8627:

snip

Hey Darksyze, what is your native language? I’m pretty curious.

French: European: -French-

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gem store was updated, have fun with it

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Poliator.7021:

OP, if you encountered this Guild doing that kind of thing, you can do two things:

A. Go to Unranked Queue, which is unlikely you do, because you said you like to do your dailies quickly. Or,

B. Simply, go out of that map and search another hot-join server. There is hundrends of them and I don’t believe that a guild can cover them all. You simply have to go to the server list and search for one match you can enter: you don’t have to rely in the “Practice Match” button.

Sorry for you to get a guild group like that, trolls gonna troll. But I don’t think ANet can do anything about it, it’s the nature of hot-join.

About doing something while in Queue for Unranked and Ranked… they eliminated the possibility of hot-joins because a good amount of the 4vs5 were caused by loading times, crashes between loads, et cetera. So I think it’s unlikely to come, because the even *changed the name to Practice Arena, and not “Hot Join” *

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Keitaro Dragonheart.9047:

Meh. I’m not too worried about it. It’s one of these ‘wait and see’ deals. Personally, I don’t think it’s going to be too big of a problem. Skilled thieves should be just fine, and things like this will separate the truly good thieves from those just using stealth as a crutch for easy loot bags. The best thieves know how to survive without stealth. Let’s not forget all of our evades and teleports. To top it all off, we’ve yet to see what the Thief’s Specialization will be and what it will bring to the table for thieves.

(I will not post that 2 years thread link again) I agree with you because if Arena net wanted to make thief a challenging profession to the other profession: would it make sense to make the changes to thief profession instead? Like fixing the main problem instead of fixing other problems that will never fix the real problem?

Example: You know that the main problem of your car is the engine. So instead of fixing the engine: you make adjustments and make fixes to other parts of the car to help the engine get better.

So 2 questions:

1. By fixing and making adjustments to other parts of the car, did it resolve the engine problem?

2. Why did you not just fix the engine: which is the main problem?

I hope you understand what i mean, as long Arena net do not re-design thief traits: engine car example, thieves players have nothing to worry about.

Like other players say, “put bandage on it”. They are correct!

So for 2years+ do you know how many bandage thieve profession have? Too many and many more will be added.

Even thief profession upcoming nerfs and future nerfs will add more bandage and more bandage unless Arena net make serious change and re-design thief profession traits.

Even other professions upcoming “counters” and future “counters” against thief profession will just add more bandage and more bandage: so why be worried at all?

" Worry is rust upon the blade "

" Put a Band-Aid on it (instead of fully treating the injury) "

" You cannot run away from your problems. A problem is a problem until you get to the root of the problem "

" Stop Fixing the Symptoms…Find the Root Cause Instead "

I want warrior profession to be able to dual large heavy weapons.
For Name? It does not matter as long it make sense to the warrior profession

Drennon.7190:

DarkSyze.8627:

The problem is not just the name: It is the role of the name!!!

Darksyze im disappointed. You forgot to quote some irrelevant literature.

“Just because one puts out fires, does not make one a FireFighter”

“Just because one judges, does not make one a Judge?”

“Just because one sings, does not make one a singer”

“Just because one write, does not make one a writer”

“Just because one responds to medical emergencies, does not make one a Paramedic”

“Just because one treats wounds, does not make one a doctor”

“Just because one talks politicss does not make you one Politician”

“Just because one makes good plannings, does not make one a Planner”

“Just because one runs, does not makes one a runner?”

“Just because one shoots bows, does not make one a hunter?”

“Just because one shoots at ranges, does not make one a ranger”

“Just because one eats vegetables, does not make one a vegetarian”

“Just because one dances, does not make one a dancer”

“Just because one teaches, does not make one a teacher”

Just because Guardian Profession hunt dragons, makes them a Dragon Hunter?

We all will be fighting and hunting dragons would that make us all Dragon Hunters?

It make no sense right?

“If it make no sense, there’s no sense in doing it”.

Please! redesign and rename Dragon Hunter for Guardian Profession

The problem is not just the name: It is the role of the name!!!