Guild Wars 2

Justine.6351:

The key to astral force? Stay in the fight.

If you are running solo or duo its going to charge slowly. Celestial Form is not meant to be a reset button.

If people would like to see Celestial Form become more reliable beyond +5man content maybe instead of AF generation they could just have CF start recharging at beginning of combat on ~15sec cd. Once off CD it can be used for ~7sec? When it ends it goes CD again. Leaving combat it is disabled.

Good tip mate. So you suggest to Stay in combat to get stomped by revenants and mesmers XD Wow

EnderzShadow.2506:

I’m sure other posters have said this, but I got to experience it firsthand in PvP.

The fact that all the other classes have gotten stronger, better and hit harder leaves the Ranger at an increasing disadvantage.

Rangers in pvp were already not in an ideal position. While every other class takes two steps forward, we remain behind.

I hope I am wrong. I’ve had a blast playing the class in pvp. I like the community in game and on the forums.

But, the way Arenanet makes changes so slowly…..I expect the ranger to be buffed to a decent level sometime in the next two years. Right on time to buff the GWEN Meta (holy kitten I hate that word) right before another expansion buffs them again, leaving us in the same F3cK1ng position we are in now.

You are not wrong.
You got exactly the point. I sadly kinda knew that…that’ s why I haven’ t bought the expansion.
On a pvp aspect nothing has changed for ranger. It was the last class and it will be the last class in gw2.
No way guys.

Roy Cronacher.1576:

Otaur.9268:

@Roy Cronacher, would it be possible to use this same type of system except a maybe 25% damage reduction on pets in WvW? Pets die instantly in WvW battles and it would help immensely to make some class features available in WvW… Of course percentages can always be tweaked until a balance is found.

This is not currently possible. For this change we made creatures, at the base AI level, look at what they are targeting and what they hit to adjust damage accordingly, it has nothing to do with player damage interactions. Doing this for WvW. adjusting outgoing player damage to minions, is not tech we are currently working on and likely would cause some perf issues as well. Players attack much much more often then creatures. So doing checks on each one of the damage targets from a player can become expensive very quickly. Though, that’s not to say that we won’t ever consider investigating it, but for now this change is specifically for creatures attacking player minions and we’ll be balancing it and seeing how it goes.

Well since it’ s been 3 years that rangers have been asking for this, I’ m sorry to say that You should work on this. This is one of the reason why me, a ranger, hasn’ t bought the expansion yet. Make ranger able to use his F skills whenever he wants like all the other classes and maybe I’ ll reconsider my decision. And i bet there are many rangers around who share my same thoughts.
3 years Roy. Come on

Gaile Gray.6029:

I thought my fellow rangers would like this news.

3 years Gaile. And ranger is always in the same situation.

I Don’ t want to be too hard but you have no idea about how many rangers have quitted this game and will never buy Hot for this.

Anet truly lost many customers among the ranger community.
That’ s sad for everyone, Anet and community.

Irenio CalmonHuang.2048:

The systemic change we’ve been working on to get in place for Heart of Thorns to help with pet and spirit survivability can be read about now

This change should be applied to wvw too.

In wvw rangers play perma without F skills becouse pet insta dies. Other classes can use their F skills whenever they want. Rangers can’ t becouse pet is perma dead.

This goes on for 3 years. It’ s time to think about that.

Kitty.1502:

Tofu.1978:

Kitty.1502:

Engineers get a new targeting system that isn’t all that vital to their class, yet rangers can’t get fixes to their pets which is vital to their class….

So obvious ArenaNet does not care about the Ranger Community.

This was the pet project of a developer on his own time. A little unfair to infer anet does not care about rangers from that

Just the 3 years we have had broken pets, and silent devs. You know they promised to communicate more with the community 2 weeks go about core ranger issues, yet nothing from them since.

Mate as a ranger i understand you. Don’ t listen to em. For them everything is fine and cool but this isn’ t the truth.
There are only two options :

1 ) Change class simply becouse ranger really lacks on too many aspects ( everyone knows that but dunno why many people deny it ),

2) OR take a break from gw2 like I’ am currently doing. When i’ ll see some remarkable changes on ranger status, and above all when I see ranger figthing in top rated spvp matches I’ ll come back to the game and maybe buying the expansion.

Regards

Treeoflife.4031:

Will test tonight but if this is true Ireno please consider making traps not reveal on activation. It can be very confusing when you expect to get stealth and are instantly revealed when someone leaps in at you as you drop the trap. Feels like a bug and is what made me stop using the trapper builds back before trait changes. It makes you vulnerable to mele and ranged classes and when stealth is your defense it hurts to be revealed….i know…because im also a thief It really would make all the difference. And i know its not your call exactly but same goes for guardians.

Irenio is the one who reworked traps, and he made em not ranged… and he worked on spirits too…..So…

Enjoy the ranger man.

As i wrote, Druid isn’ t viable.

Ten ton hammer wrote basicly the same.

@Heimskarl Ashfiend man you are totally on wrong on every words you wrote.

I love your optimism but no.
Druid is far from being viable.

AgitatedFox.5287:

I’ve mained Ranger since the start of Guild Wars 1 and up until today for Guild Wars 2. Arena Nets methodology just isn’t for me anymore.

The release of the Druid is the final straw. It’s quite clearly an attempt to get us off from playing the Ranger because the developers don’t know any other way to incorporate it into their game. We gave you advice on how to improve it and make us viable, what we said was ignored and were to be forced into a status of viability by introducing raids, attempting to build the game around having an aspect of heavy healing and then “dumping” it on the Rangers to make us happy.

Where is the logic in that? Did we ask for this? I certainly did not. on top of that, It’s ONE aspect of the game. Making Druid extremely niche.You can argue it’s good for PvP too, but it’s really not in my eyes. the meta is so filled with sustain and boons that it’s simply not needed. This is because the players have learnt to play the game WITHOUT a heavy healer and WITHOUT support, because THAT is how GW2 was made. The game intended to break the norm of MMORPG’s in that regard and redefine the combat system. This was one of the primary things that attracted us to this game!

I also hate being chronically ignored

A blind eye from the developers is something we’ve put up with for years. Why? what other gaming company (lets put EA aside here for a moment) ignores an entire segment of their community for no good reason? (Genuinely, I’m interested to know) “We’re listening”, they said, “We’re reading”, they claim. What aren’t they doing? Communicating and understanding. The WHaO outcry is a prime example. It’s been nearly a week now, and we’ve still had NOTHING from the dev’s. Not even so much as a nicely worded explanation. (“Reasons”, from Roy on his Twitter page does not count)

How hard would it be, honestly, for one of the developers, during his lunch break, on his phone, to just come and talk with us for 5 or 10 minutes each week? I spend longer than that on the kitten toilet on my phone. And that’s all we’ve ever asked for. If I were a developer for the games classes, I’d be DYING to know what the people who play the professions thought. I’d be aching to know how to make it better without making them OP. The clearest way to do that is to talk to them.

And yet, we get nothing.

I’m fed up with it and I’m not going to bother fighting this stupid battle with it any longer.

I’ll come back when you:

1. Fix that huge list of Ranger bugs (on the bugs section of the forum, one nicely structured post containing all of them, consolidated and well kept)
2. Re-design our profession from the ground up (Just do away with pets for gods sake they’re more trouble than they are worth. Make preparations our unique mechanic or something. Heres an idea, scroll through the Ranger forums and look at the HUGE LIST of alternative mechanics for the ranger to be found)
3. Begin talking to your players again.

I’ m with you man. I totally agree on every single word you wrote. I ’ m tired of repetaing the same things for 3 years now. Ranger needs a compleate overhaul but they will never do it…

Irenio CalmonHuang.2048:

We are, indeed, reading.

We particularly take time to read the constructive and well-crafted feedback posts.

I don’t want to make promises, which as many of you have pointed out can go horribly awry for a variety of reasons, but we are hoping to make some changes to the old ranger shouts (pre-WHAO & SotP).

Irenio ranger has been left behind since day one. We need a total overhaul NOW and not who knows when….

1) We need more damage
2) We need more sustain
3) Pets need to be less dumb
4) It’s been 3 years since we keep giving constructive feedback. Unfortunatly Now we all are a bit tired and let’ s be honest we are epicly disappointed.

3 years man.

Nothing to add…

I’ m kinda scared about having news on Druid.
You know I’ am a ranger since day 1…I can’ t survive to another hearth attack for my beloved ranger.
Cross fingers

Rangers don’ t dream too much

If I’ m not wrong, the same developper who reworked traps and spirits, is working on the Druid.

Hype

Apophis.2498:

I am not sure why this is such a big deal. class/specialization balance goes beyond alpha and beta testing, and each will be continually tweaked as time goes on. ANet has their own test team that goes through stuff before we ever see it. And who knows the druid may have been worked on the most out of all classes.

The Scrapper and Druid will be fine, I’m sure.

For sure you are not a ranger or engi. That’ s why you write this

The price and the current ranger status.

oh it’ s out good

Hello mates.
Will be there a druid teaser pic today?^ Any info ?^

And what about spirits?^ Can’ t believe that someone could even think that they were viable like they are right now

lhlawarrior.4132:

You know, maybe its just me. And that’s entirely possible. I will admit that I don’t spend a lot of time in the Forums as others might. But does it seem to anyone else that the Forums for the most part have basically become a space for players to complain about the game? Isn’t Forums worth more than that?

Again, maybe its just me, but it just seems like everyone has either gone to other 3rd party sites, video steaming/recorded sites, or in-game, for things like build help, new player help, guild recruitment, etc…

To me, instead of become a helpful community helping others with knowledge, experience, and suggestions, it has become a place to complain, bash Anet, and convince others that they should just give up, “cause its always been this way.”

Its sad to me. Sad that Anet designed a game that tried to defy the status quo of everyone looking out for themselves, and creating a community friendly game, with massive world events that complimented group effort, and WvW, and even PvP with their effort of allowing even lvl 1’s to participate without dramatic set-backs. And these Forums have started to slowly become that which they tried to avoid.

Shame on us. So Druids don’t get a POI reveal. So Rangers haven’t had as much dedicated bug fixes. Maybe instead of finding ways to complain and bash Anet, we could come together as a community and once it has been brought to Anet’s attention, help out the Rangers that are struggling. Encourage them to maybe slightly alter their build to help compensate as much as possible. Or maybe even adjust personally, as we learn to address our favorite classes’ limitations. That’s right, our favorite class. If Ranger is your favorite class to play, there has to be reasons you still insist on playing it, no matter the limitations. Focus on that. Focus on encouraging new Rangers who are struggling, and reminding them, hey the pets may be hard to deal with right now compared to other classes, but man, let me tell you about my favorite aspect, or my favorite way to play them.

Its time to stop demanding, or complaining, or insisting, or expecting the worst.

Its time to be a community again. Not a complaint department at the DMV.

Guild Wars 2 is THE best MMORPG in the market HANDS DOWN.

Lets start communicating it like we care, and lets start being a forum who cares and is helpful.

But again…maybe its just me.

Tick Tock Bri
Engineer and PROUD player of Guild Wars 2

The ranger that is in me…..can’ t accept your post man.

BlusterWolf.2103:

Yo guys remember not long time ago in one stream when they introduce all those trait changes for professions with excitement and insights, but when it comes to the ranger part they basically said sth like “oh cool, there are some changes” and skipped all the explanation and move onto next topic within 1 min like ranger is cancer? yea,lets keep the hope up for “BIG” Druid reveal on twitchcon Kappa

Yeah mate we remember.
Moreover if you noticed they never play ranger on stream.

TheFantasticGman.9451:

Darkness.9732:

5 min druid discussion at TwitchCon in the air

Wow… Never thought I’d agree with you, but today is the day that i do.

Well man, despite my manners not being the best and I do know, we are all on the same board.
I played ranger a lot in this years and i feel kinda sad for ranger status. The fact we are going not to have a dedicated POI for druid…well i let you guys with your opinions.

seems so man. You are right

Brace yourself rangers. The true Winter is coming. for us

sprhavkdogi.9408:

Darkness.9732:

5 min druid discussion at TwitchCon in the air

With Anet’s track record with rangers this is completely my belief. Gaile I want to trust you, but my distrust of the attitude for rangers we’ve seen makes me doubt this. When saying the ranger is not good is as prevalent a joke as moose abuse in livestreams. When one of the more vocal devs champions bearbow, the build that basically ruined the ranger community, on these livestreams. When an article offering some legitimate criticisms about this attitude and some possible ways to address it comes out and is taken down and not by the writer’s choice. I think it is completely justified to still be a little concerned and take this statement with a grain of salt.

Respect for your words man.
+1000

5 min druid discussion at TwitchCon in the air

Kreed.2768:

Kraljevo.2801:

Lyger.5429:

After reading the official Scrapper reveal article today, I am very excited to see what Druid brings. Scrapper seems to have great traits synergy, fun weapon skills, as well as useful utility skills. ICH (ranger and engineer developer) might also have some awesome stuff for Druid as well!

Isn’t Roy responsible for the ranger? It was him presenting the specialization traits in the ready up.

I faintly recall the guy who did the Ranger traits being the only one who hadn’t been available for that stream, so someone else filled his spot (I guess Roy then) on the livestream with only some notes to go with. I believe there was a lot disappointment from the Ranger community because they seemed to just want to get it (the ranger section) over with, so that they could move on to the Warrior.

yeah i remember that.

Jelzouki.4128:

Hi rangers.

Long time necro here just wanted to pour my sympathy out to you guys and let you know I think it is kittening bullkitten that ranger is last to be released while other specialisations get to go through 3 beta weekends of constructive feedback whereas ranger will have one. I don’t even play ranger and I think this is stupid. Great job anet, letting down your playerbase once again.

/riot

Thank you mate.

You made my day mate.
+1000 for the irony on the ranger status

The disappointment is real. Too bad

It’ s possible if you the ranger reroll as mesmer XD Then you can win.

when they nerf mesmers and elementalists, me as a ranger will stop leaving matches. Untill then, no matter what happens i will perma leave couse why should i keep playing an unbalanced matchup?^

Borious.9531:

Dear Roamers,

Please come to WvW and let’s have some real fun killing each other.
Don’t stick to this stupid groups of 3 or more players(no offense to blobs, this is a different aspect of WvW). Roaming community needs more appreciation because we are the free spirit of GW2.
Arenanet does not need to do anything we must do it for ourselves, it is our duty to create the paradise called ROAMINGLAND

Yours sincerely,
Borious the Tree Engineer

Since there are so many op classes like mesmer i gave up with wvw after 6000h+ spent on roaming.
So no thank you.

uknortherner.2670:

OP, you’re not the first special snowflake to post a barely-comprehensible “I’m quitting!” thread on this board, and you won’t be the last.

The game will not suffer in any shape or form by you no-longer being there.

Well man many veterans have already quitted. That’ s why they were forced to introduce the f2p system…if this is not the game suffering tell me plz what it is ^^

SixxxZ.4317:

Ok so you release the season 1 living world special items that you needed to be playing at that time to receive those items, but you only release certain items i.e. fused gauntlets and the selfless potion. Why haven’t you released the other skins? I felt like it was cool when I had skins like the fused gauntlets and selfless potion but now that everyone can get them again even for a short time aren’t so special anymore are they? If you plan on releasing EVERY single skin this way that would be fine but it does not look like anytime soon ill be able to get shattered holographic wings, fleshy wings or any of the rest of the achievement only skins from past events also Super Adventurer Box Skins and Finisher, I mean come on its harder to get a Fused weapon skin then it is to make a legendary at least make some similar or better looking black lion weapons instead of these crappy past 6-8 releases of them. It would cost 1000$+ to get one even if you saved up 1000g already. I honestly thought the Selfless potion would be the LAST thing you would release or at least all the skins before it first. Well I guess GW2 team likes 3 year veterans who played GW1 and GW2 since they were first released to feel like they cant get anything new because it costs real life money or who knows how long of playing 6 hours+ every day to get enough to buy a new skin or never have that skin even after patiently waiting a year or 2 not to mention the achievement skins, Anet its so lame that the only new skins released in the past year that was actually cool looking was hellfire armor and NOBODY can EVER get the full set even after 6 years I’m sure. So the players who play this game for mostly looks and cosmetic stuff should just quit because you’ll never get anything new unless you pay real life money or wait for 3-6 MORE years. I’ve spent thousands of dollars on this game and I’m just saying, what a waste of every single penny.

Thanks, not.

I’ m sorry but it’ s your fault. You shoudln’ t have spent so much money on this game.

islarose.7356:

Darkness.9732:

That’ s why many of us are waiting before buying the expansion. Myself i only like ranger but right now it’ s too broken..so nothing for now.

I returned mine yesterday. I’m not a regular on the forums, and I don’t frequently lobby criticism, but I’m not impressed with HoT right now, and I realized that if Anet isn’t going to deal with longstanding issues after 3 years, they probably never will — and the bungling gets really old. I don’t even main a ranger or necro, but it’s a reflection on Anet to not even bother engaging with the community, or acknowledging the issue. I don’t want to support that.

It’s sad to lose the hobby, but it’s great for my bank account (former gem whale).

Same for me mate. I truly think that things won’ t change for ranger. Sadly yeah i ’ m losing the gw2 hobby ( i basicly don’ t play the game anymore but i keep writing on the forums just to keep myself updated and to share my opinions on ranger status )
Let’ s hope we are wrong on all these ranger ^^conspiracies^^…but the Ten Ton Article that suddently disappeared…well..that seems to confirm our worries.

This event is really bad. Nothing to comment.

Roy Cronacher.1576:

posthumecaver.6473:

Rahkylus.8097:

Roy Cronacher.1576:

Here is the build I used for PvP during BWE2. I would change around a few traits or sigils depending on what I fought, but this is basically it.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQNAsemn3guNSuQ7JRboVlsP0rS4IaWJ4EdskFNFidMppNtBIBNwugJ8hA-TZBFABiXGohTBwCHBgW2fAgHAAA

make it sword sword and its my build, love shiro glint

Does Invocation, rolling Mists, make any sense with Marauder, with fury you will have %130 of crit chance wasted stats…..

Rolling Mists seems only make sense with Celestial and Crusader/Valkyrie (precision sigils with precison runes) I think.

In PvP I believe I have 54% critical-hit chance base with that build so fury would put me at 94% with rolling mists.

Let’s hope druid will have such cool things too^^

Its just poor designed. The people who designed this event should be ashamed.
Hopefully they’ ll fix it so that we can earn more tockens durng each run.

That’ s why many of us are waiting before buying the expansion. Myself i only like ranger but right now it’ s too broken..so nothing for now.

Dakota.4591:

Milkey.6894:

Ok I Did It.2854:

I have already pre-purchased HoT

I haven’t.

I haven’t. And if this is any indication, I won’t.

I haven’ t and if things go like that ( i’ m a ranger..so you know…) I won’ t

islarose.7356:

Darkness.9732:

Sorry guys…but am i wrong or TEN TON HAMMER cancelled that article?^

If yes…well..for sure someone put pressure on him…

Anet “asked” them to take it down.

I have no words…
Anet and rangers…everything confirmed then…

Sorry guys…but am i wrong or TEN TON HAMMER cancelled that article?^

If yes…well..for sure someone put pressure on him…

+1000 to Ton Hammer.

Tentonhammer got the point .
ranger has so many problems…why anet doesn’ t solve em?

Roy Cronacher.1576:

There will be a fair amount of changes that I have planned and that have come out of the feedback from this last weekend.

What about rangers and engis? No elite spec announced yet and have only one BW left.

How will you handle the tons of feedback needed to make engi/ranger elite spec decent?^
Regards

+1 Someone should wake up and face the REAL issues regarding rangers

Accept that ranger class will receive no love.

really the spirits and the traps changes….no comment