Guild Wars 2

Cynz.9437:

idk how you are losing games, i won every game so far

that’s working as intended since your MMR is high, you get put together with 4 other players with high MMR.

then match making just fetch 5 other amber players to fight against your high MMR amber team.

TexZero.7910:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

TexZero.7910:

People did not read the blog.

MMR is dead. Not used for match making anymore.

no, YOU did not read the blog.

As we’ve mentioned previously, Ranked matchmaking in PvP during season two will now be based primarily on your current division placement and a predetermined “pip range” that extends from that spot. We’ll search for other players that fall within your pip range (which can extend outside of your division depending on where you’re currently placed) and pair you up with teammates who have a similar skill level to your own. We’ll then find you opponents within that same pip range and pair them against you, regardless of their skill level.

Show me once where MMR is even remotely brought up ? from SAUCE – https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/pvp-league-season-two-changes/

They’ve abandoned MMR as a matchmaking tool and are using the pip and league system.

“pair you up with teammates who have a similar skill level to your own.”

read “similar skill level” in order words player’s MMR.

doesn’t matter if you do not believe it.
fact is fact.

TexZero.7910:

People did not read the blog.

MMR is dead. Not used for match making anymore.

no, YOU did not read the blog.

Cynz.9437:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

CombatEvolve.9238:

Mmr has nothing to do with current matchmaking. It depends on your current division, and a pip search range for people in your range.

That being said, even if you are playing something “meta”, that does not necessarily mean you are playing it well or great. For example, I could have the best reaper build off (insert build website), but that does not mean i can play it to its intended purposes since I’m not good at it.

Not saying you’re bad, its just a general statement on “meta” builds. For the most part, just know that all players are currently at the same “MMR”, good or bad, due to matchmaking changes in Ranked S2.

MMR still matters.

say for example,
match making grabs 10 amber players of similar pips.

then match making shoves them into teams of similar MMR.
means one team ’s MMR will always be higher than the other.

the new match making system puts all winners on one team and all losers on one team before the match even begin.

i don’t think it takes MMR into account tbh, based on players i was facing/had on my team today

well perhaps all the 10 players in your games are of similar or almost same MMR ?
my example only applies if the MMR of all 10 players are quite different.

for example,
match making system grabs 10 amber players of similar pip range.
but all 10 players have say, MMR of 1000

so the system shoves them into teams of 2
red – blue
1000 1000
1000 1000
1000 1000
1000 1000
1000 1000

but say if 10 players have different MMR range, say
1500 1200 1300 1250 1350 1000 1100 850 950 1050

the system will match them like this
red – blue
1500 1100
1350 1050
1300 1000
1250 0950
1200 0850

i remember they say in the blog post or news post saying that they will match players of similar MMR together in a same team.

CombatEvolve.9238:

Mmr has nothing to do with current matchmaking. It depends on your current division, and a pip search range for people in your range.

That being said, even if you are playing something “meta”, that does not necessarily mean you are playing it well or great. For example, I could have the best reaper build off (insert build website), but that does not mean i can play it to its intended purposes since I’m not good at it.

Not saying you’re bad, its just a general statement on “meta” builds. For the most part, just know that all players are currently at the same “MMR”, good or bad, due to matchmaking changes in Ranked S2.

MMR still matters.

say for example,
match making grabs 10 amber players of similar pips.

then match making shoves them into teams of similar MMR.
means one team ’s MMR will always be higher than the other.

the new match making system puts all winners on one team and all losers on one team before the match even begin.

what build ya gonna run?

no.

they need to introduce more viable builds.

more power creep please.

well the server seems ready as well.

i’m feeling the pre patch lags in hotjoins already.

Flumek.9043:

Deimos, are you asking for a person to stay till 23:59 in office to push magic button at midnight?

Work in usa starts at 9, you check and gather all stuff, push button at 12 and fix new bugs till 17.

Its just latehour for that day on europe, dont encourage chineese slavery

ah i thought they already pushed the magic button to automatically roll out the new build once the time hits 24:00 =p

well they said 23 february 2016

its already 23 february 2016 over here at gmt+8 but i think they will follow pst so it will be 12:00am 23 february 2016 at pst in about 5 hours 45 minutes more.

so does season 2 starts in 6 hours 15 minutes ?

Adrian Guardian.9480:

I’d like another amulet with healing power as minor stat so my druid can play something in-between paladin and mender
1050 power 1050 precision 560 toughness 560 healing power

crusader amulet is really fine. keep it for the few profession that can utilize it.

they can introduce a new amulet
1050 power 1050 precision 560 ferocity 560 toughness

Toeofdoom.6152:

Hmmm, this seems a bit odd as both crusader and vigilant are pretty uncommon and not that powerful, though I have had some success with a crusader rifle scrapper.

That said, amulets with too much toughness and no vitality are very niche – they are usually bad for ele, necro, guardian and thief. These amulets are even harder to use due to the other stat choices – condi duration but no condi damage, ferocity but no precision.

If the intent is to move towards more widely applicable ones over time, that’s a good change and the recently added amulets did that quite well. (Though you could simply remove barbarian, knight and possibly carrion now due to them being outclassed)

carrion might be outclassed by mercenary but knight could be still useful.
as for barbarian, low health professions may wanna try that some time.

well for me if the mesmer is in the open away from his / hers illusions then i just click on him / her otherwise tab tab tab tab tab tab ctrl t

Flumek.9043:

A) yes, there will be steamrolls at start

B) after a while you will settle AND STAY in your appropriate league.

Season 1 was basically “GATHER 130 POINTS” . Yes i mean points, as it was same points that came when the leaderboards switched from mmr to points.
It was shown, that the system GENERATES POINTS with close -0 matches, similiar to the casino zero number takes away in roulette.

POINTS PER GAME. This value was positive for all players, even the nooby low winrate nr1 turret engie. It was 0.25 for average and went above 0.50 for the pro league players.
Tldr
Hellseth needed 200 games to reach legend, i average needed 400x AND any baddie would reach it after enough games.

This new system should, like you said,
PRODUCE BARRIER MATCHUPS that you should not overcome unless you are better and need to be in higher division.
The good players will climb up fast, it is question how spread out their climb will be, and how high B and C will climb after As made room for them.

Tldr
Good teams will have massive winstreak at start, then it will be clear win clear loss and they will stay in ruby for example. They might climb into diamond once all good diamonds become legendary etc.

ah i see.

well, hopefully i can reach ruby again in season 2.

most of the time, i only play like 1 or 3 ranked games per day during season 1, only when i have more time to spare i play a bit more games and i’m happy to have reached ruby.

in season 2, all matches will be either blowouts or steamrolls

there will be no close games 499 – 500 at all, unless the MMR of all 10 players are the same.

for example,
10 amber players solo queued, say their MMR is
for example if say 1000 is default average MMR

1000 1500
1010 1200
0900 1030
0800 1050
1020 1060

previously, match making would shuffle the players like this:

red – blue
1200 1500
1030 0900
1050 0800
1060 1000
1020 1010

so the 1500 guy would felt like he had to carry blue team.

however, new match making would shuffle the teams like this:

red – blue
1000 1500
1010 1200
0900 1030
0800 1050
1020 1060

as players of similar MMR would be placed in the same team together.

so each match is supposed to be a clear cut win or lose, steamrolls or blowouts.
there will be no even games unless all 10 solo queue players have exact same MMR.

discuss!

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Does anyone actually use Crusader’s Amulet? Seems like the only ones that can are those that can generate high Crit chance without Precision (not many can) as well as have good Healing power scaling.

So, basically Blighter’s Boon/Decimate Defenses Reapers? Or Spite/Blood/Soul Reaping core Necros?

rangers with remorseless can make use of them to a certain degree.
and there are runes / sigils which grant guaranteed critical hits.

well, warriors could make use of crusader amulet, but warrior is not meta.

crusader and cleric amulet are really fine.
they should leave them both alone.

power creep goooood moar pls

NeXeD.3042:

Not every 5 man team are using comms

^ this.

one of my casual 5 man team lost to a full 1+1+1+1+1 solo team 499 – 500 and they earned 3 pips for that.

at least we don’t have to worry about losing 2 or 3 pips for a loss now.

stealth is not a boon.

perhaps an option to break stealth manually ?

btw u can attack crates in the clock tower

nuuuuu i enjoy my reaper

so there is no reason to try hard anymore in season 2 ?

you lose one pip regardless of what team score you get from 0 – 499

1. remove the above 75% health threshold requirement, buff it:
“remove 1 condition every 1 second.”

2. remove the on hit requirement, fix it:
“remove 1 condition every 1 second if your health is above 75%.”

there, everyone is happy.

given how fast conditions are applied, i think the first option is okay.
if no health threshold requirement and 1 condition removed per 1 second is too powerful, perhaps maybe
“remove 1 condition every 3 seconds.”

thanks evan !!!

depends. when i wanna see my arrows shoot up into the sky i do that.

otherwise in pvp i use the standard camera and targeting system.

standardize them too!
all 8 seconds duration!

endure pain
pulse protection, regeneration, resistance each second
require 30 adrenaline

balance stance
pulse stability, swiftness each second
require 20 adrenaline

berserker stance
pulse resistance each second
require 10 adrenaline

frenzy
pulse might, quickness each second
require 10 adrenaline

Justine.6351:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

how i play hotjoin:
- try to get on the winning team
- volunteer to autobalance (IT WILL HAPPEN)
- smile when i get tossed over to the other team
- practice my survival skills against the zerg

which class do you play in this scenario? or any class you happen to be playing atm?

well it depends on the daily profession win (except elementalist, mesmer, thief)

nowadays i’m most playing
- playing reaper / scrapper
- practicing druid / dragon hunter
- messing around with shiro glint herald
- messing around with core warrior
- sometimes pistol / pistol daredevil

been quite a while since i played mesmer
i can’t play elementalist properly since day -3 (pre order 3 days pre release)

how i play hotjoin:
- try to get on the winning team
- volunteer to autobalance (IT WILL HAPPEN)
- smile when i get tossed over to the other team
- practice my survival skills against the zerg

cleric amulet is fine.

well at least hotjoin rooms are kinda populated again.

during season 1 the hotjoin rooms were kinda vacant.

style.6173:

You guys are just getting trolled. The OP is just trying to make a point that scrapper is strong. Anyone who plays the game knows reaper > scrapper. It’s a hard counter.

yup. scrapper spam boons but reaper will just keep on corrupting them.

Regon Phoenix.8215:

Who hold more advantages over who in pvp battles. This is just about advantages, anyone can beat anyone if played very well.

Scrapper > Reaper
Scrapper > Herald
Scrapper > Daredevil
Scrapper > Chronomanser
Scrapper > Dragon Hunter
Scrapper > Berserker
Scrapper > Druid
Scrapper > Tempest

Reaper < Herald
Reaper < Daredevil
Reaper > Chronomancer
Reaper < Dragon Hunter
Reaper > Berserker
Reaper = Druid
Reaper = Tempest

Herald = Daredevil
Herald > Chronomancer
Herald = Dragon Hunter
Herald > Berserker
Herald > Druid
Herald > Tempest

Daredevil > Chronomancer
Daredevil > Dragon Hunter
Daredevil > Berserker
Daredevil = Druid
Daredevil > Tempest

Chronomancer < Dragon Hunter
Chronomancer = Berserker
Chronomancer < Druid
Chornomancer < Tempest

Dragon Hunter > Berserker
Dragon Hunter < Druid
Dragon Hunter = Tempest

Berserker < Druid
Berserker < Tempest

Druid > Tempest

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If someone is stronger than something else is +1, then each elite specialization would have this score:

Scrapper: 8
Reaper: 2
Herald: 5
Daredevil: 5
Chronomancer: 0
Dragon Hunter: 3
Berserker: 0
Druid: 4
Tempest: 2

Simple math and math never lie.

---

So, elite specialization tier liest is:
1) Scrapper
2) Herald and Daredevil
3) Druid
4) Dragon Hunter
5) Reaper and Tempest
6) Chronomancer and Berserker

so you’re trying to tell us that reaper who corrupt boobs boons cannot beat a scrapper who spam boobs boons ?

its not OP since banners were gutted since they remove the banner trait that everyone was using.

and they did not even bother to explain why they removed it.

they just removed it.

dead silence.

at the moment,
warriors are under powered,
not over powered.

blind spam will effectively counter warriors.

Fivedawgs.4267:

That will just be way too OP. Mind you with outrage this trait heal every 10 sec so about 2k health and 1 condi remove every 2 sec?? That’s more than mending. So you’re suggesting is selfish overall because RR is already OP as it is.

no.

rousing resilience is weak.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Rousing_Resilience
Rousing Resilience
“Gain toughness and health when you break out of a stun.”
Healing: 2,536 + (0.50) Healing Power
Rousing Resilience (8s): Gain up to 1,000 toughness based on your level.

^ while i appreciate that rousing resilience has received some buffs, it still does not remove conditions and activates open using a stun breaker. furthermore, the healing power multiplier is way too low for a grand master trait.

it should be like this instead:

Rousing Resilience
“Remove conditions, gain toughness and health when you activate a stun break skill.”
Conditions Removed: 2
Rousing Resilience (8s): Gain up to 1,000 toughness based on your level.
Healing: 2,536 + (1.50) Healing Power

discuss!

dead or alive,
its healing power coefficient is too low.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dead_or_Alive
Dead or Alive
“Taking fatal damage while in berserk mode will heal you.”
Healing: 5,220 (0.04)?

only 0.04 ?
at the moment, with 1050 healing power, it only heals for 5,262
it should be 1.00 or 2.00

discuss!

scrapper is fine.

just corrupt all those boobs boons and watch the scrapper melt.

necro staff is fine and balanced.

@ ronpierce
hey thanks! XD

@ reikken
hmmm could be as well!

@Drarnor Kunoram
well, actually, not really.
i enjoy my reaper very much at the moment and have no further comments on them.

i was trying out the sigil of frost on my scrapper and i was wondering if it could be better.

i think there is not enough chill in pvp, at the moment, only a few professions can spam it real good. i think we should let more professions be able to apply chill, via weapon sigils.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sigil_of_Ice

Sigil of Ice
30% Chance on Hit: Inflict Chill (2 Seconds)
(Cooldown: 10 Seconds)

^ currently we have

what if, we revise it into:

Sigil of Ice
50% Chance on Hit: Inflict Chill (1 Second)
(Cooldown: 5 Seconds)

pros:
- higher chance, 20% more, up from 30%
- lower cool down, 5 seconds lesser, down from 10 seconds

cons:
- lower duration, 1 second instead of 2 seconds

or we could keep it old one as it is, then introduce a new one:

Sigil of Frostbite
50% Chance on Hit: Inflict Chill (1 Second)
(Cooldown: 5 Seconds)

discuss!

now everyone can chill!

Azel.4786:

It is not meant to.

Welcome to Revenge Wars 2, where the balance is designed through hat picks!

Every Quarter the team gathers at ANET’s office to blindly pick certain classes that will be OP and some that will be UP in the following quarter’s meta!

Will this be your turn to shine and laugh at your opponents or will this be your turn to fall consistently to your enemies?

You never know until patch rolls out! But the QQ will always be there!

deswai it is better to play all nine professions instead of just sticking to one.

boobs corruption is fine.

there are professions that can apply more boobs than the reaper can corrupt.

you don’t.

you enjoyed your d/d celele reign.

its over now.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Sorel.4870:

It would work great on a Blighter’s Boon build, but there is already a lot of boon spamming. Maybe a sigil with vigor on a 3s CD would be ok though, and a great pick for a necro.

Also, there is a sigil that grants quickness, but I don’t remember if it’s on crit or on damage dealt.

that’s on swap with a cool down of 9 seconds, and requires a weapon swap or shroud enter / exit i guess. i would appreciate something with a shorter cool down.

and yes i would want another sigil to go with blighters boon besides sigil of strength.

yes there are a lot of boon spamming, but not on necro / reaper though.
main boon spammers are tempest and elixir engineers.

He was talking Superior Sigil of Rage, which gives Quickness on-crit. Only reason it’s never used is because it’s a 30 second cooldown.

aaah all right.
yeah the 30 s recharge makes it useless.

we really need more 1 s recharge sigils ! XD

Sorel.4870:

It would work great on a Blighter’s Boon build, but there is already a lot of boon spamming. Maybe a sigil with vigor on a 3s CD would be ok though, and a great pick for a necro.

Also, there is a sigil that grants quickness, but I don’t remember if it’s on crit or on damage dealt.

that’s on swap with a cool down of 9 seconds, and requires a weapon swap or shroud enter / exit i guess. i would appreciate something with a shorter cool down.

and yes i would want another sigil to go with blighters boon besides sigil of strength.

yes there are a lot of boon spamming, but not on necro / reaper though.
main boon spammers are tempest and elixir engineers.

well i’m sure the numbers (cool down, duration) of the sigils needs to be adjusted but ya all can agree we need more on crit boon sigils rite?

at least we don’t need to spend gold to unlock the new amulets.

basically the 4 new amulets are here to replace the removed amulets.