Guild Wars 2

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

I’m a thief who spends 95% of my time in WvW. So I’m used to taking orders, stacking, burning enemies/players and I can handle myself well… But it’s difficult to find my way through a place I’ve never been when there are a ton of enemies in every direction. I try to utilize my stealth to the best of my ability so that I don’t activate enemies or so that I can slip by. But if I take a wrong turn and my stealth runs out I’m SOL.
Again, I apologize for ranting… I just find this whole matter very frustrating. I’m in a guild but I don’t want to be kicked for being a total scrub in dungeons. So I’m trying to get my head straight in a few of them before I do a guild dungeon run.

I have already answered this.

Also, if you’re worried about looking bad, look up the dungeon run on youtube.

Like I said earlier, just tell them you haven’t done it. It’s easy for people to say “stack here” or “Shadow’s refugee us here” or “We’re skipping these mobs, stay left”

Yes, it’s a strategy. It is more efficient. If you don’t know the runs tell the group and ask for help.

It would take longer to kill something (for little to no rewards) than to just run by.

Feel free to start your own party in LFG tool and clarify “No skipping,will kill everything” that way you can play with link-minded people.

Tree.3916:

People whisper me asking how to get their swag.

One time tree! And I asked you not to tell anybody!

Why does this thread even exist?

No way in heck does aegis need this.

EpicHedgehog.1754:

I’m playing support ele and I have never had such a problem, i just heal/buff everyone and noone dies Too bad that in the most cases ppl just want everyone to be full berserkers and don’t want me sometimes…

As horribly as off topic as this may be, you aren’t contributing as much as you think you are.

that our opinions matter, please take a visit to This discussion thread and let the dev know we would like more information on the future/direction of dungeons. Assuming this is something you would want.

I only post here because I know there are a lot of dungeon forums trolls (huehuehue) that live here and never see other sections.

1) The direction of dungeons.

Wicked Rin.1972:

Vox Hollow.2736:

If they read this sub-forum, they’ve heard all this before and have obviously made their decision one way or the other. If they don’t, they can’t read this post.

Basically you’re kind of Preaching to the Choir

You know what? You’re actually right, but it’ll be great if people that didn’t know about it glanced through and improved a bit.

I guess what I got from your message was rambling, question, somewhat complaint, open discussion, all combined into one. I wasn’t really sure what you even wanted as responses.

If it’s really about sharing helpful builds/utilities, then I believe it was poorly phrased and wont lead to anywhere because people are all responding differently.

Mesket.5728:

I’ve seen enough hentai to know where this is going to…

This is where I slowly side step out of this thread.

Bright.9160:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

I doubt Anet will make Fractal weapons buyable because it would be admission of making a mistake. They wouldn’t do it unless they had a clever cover up story.

Scarlet invades the Mistlock Observatory, sodomizes Dessa, poors hot wax over her nipples, forces her to marry Trahearne, then throws her broken spirit and body off of the observatory, invades the Fractals of the Mists, timegates it so you can only kill one enemy every 10 seconds, replaces every single mob by a level 79 clowncar, and makes it so that every time you do Fractals, you have to do dredge (keep in mind, every dredge spawned by the clowncar is now a lvl79 clowncar), steals all the Fractal skins and puts them on the gem store (that is secretly run by her and Kormir), but you cannot pick what weapon you get, you can only buy a “random Fractal weapon” (to stay in the spirit of Fractals). Also, before you can get a melee weapon, you get 3 underwater and/or ranged weapons first.

Stop giving them ideas!

Somehow you can still use certain ones in dungeons though, like the spiky fruit at CoE (at least before the last update, haven’t checked since then).

This may be because you’re wasting 30s to buy them, but meh.

Bright.9160:

And where is this thread going?

This guy. Get out of my mind.

Sins.4782:

Killing the center burrow sooner means getting those two annoying scavengers from east burrow sooner. Those two can wipe most defenders pretty easily with stunlock. Not to mention the ton of gravelings headed straight for hodgins— it can be hard to get aggro on all of them, so a lot of people pay it safe® by killing northeast burrow before north.

Mainly this, but that’s mostly for unogranized groups.

When I’m on my ele and confident in my group, or there are two eles, we will split up.

I’ll stay on one side of the room and they stay on the other. This cuts down time from running over, because we both do the first two burrows in the series, then do the other side’s last burrow.

Rather than a wall of text, pm me if you want more info/explanation.

lunyboy.8672:

If people are coming here because they are frustrated, upset, or having real problems, and the first thing people do is start trolling them, it isn’t because there are so many bad players (as certain posters allege in-between bans), it’s because the good players are too busy patting each other on the back for trolling to help the community.

You seem to miss the point. When somebody really has a question or is seeking help, this forum is more than helpful.

When they come in here because they are ‘frustrated, upset, or having real problems’ then of course they get trolled. They aren’t trying to find advice or seek help, they are coming in here to vent, whine, and moan.

How you ask for help makes all the difference. We shouldn’t have to act nice and friendly to everybody. Just because they feel like they are entitled to something, doesn’t mean we have to oblige.

Kingteranas.1376:

Lol “I know how to play well”. Yea people need to realize that people who join experienced runs don’t want to carry someone who has no clue what they’re doing. Just makes for an unnecessarily long run, and most likely a kick for that guy. Pretty easy to tell who’s new from the start. I don’t mind helping new people every so often, but in those cases I won’t put experienced only.

Ran into this fella in AC the other day. Was telling me how to play my class, even though he was sitting at 1k achievement points.

Small example: @ Spider queen

Dude: “Gimme lightning hammer”
Me: “FGS is better”
Dude: “Give us all lightning hammer”
Me: “Can’t. Plus FGS is better for spider queen”
Dude: “Yeah, at queen”
Me: “We’re at queen….”
Dude: “Where’s frostbow? Gimme frostbow”

ARGH!

LordByron.8369:

because people won t fail anymore.

News to me!

Bright.9160:

Forkada.8376:

Bright.9160:

Forkada.8376:

1 February 2013 – today! I do 38 and 48 fractal every day….. I know its only random loot! And its really uncomfortable for me and many other ppl. but it would be cool if anet add venodr or recipe in MF for fractal weapons, mb Like fractal capacitor.

I have a very hard time believing you’ve been doing 38 and 48 dailies since February and you have yet to get your first weapon.

im unlucky and it is most annoying

So, you’ve been doing daily fractals since February 1 2013. You say you do 38 and 48 every day too. Let’s take a look at this, shall we…

That would mean you have done 258 38’s and 258 48’s. Let’s say the chance to get a weapon is 8% in 38 and 12% in 48 (taking unlucky numbers, data has shown it’s about 10 in 38 and 15 in 48). The chance to not get a weapon 258 times in a row on a 38 is (92/100)^258 = 4.54 E-10, or about 1 in 2201610789, the chance for this to happen 258 times in a row on a 48 is (88/100)^258 = 4.74 E-15 or about 1 in 200000000000000.

Do you understand why I’m having such a hard time believing you?

math is hard. anecdotal evidence is obviously easy

haviz.1340:

Ethics.4519:

So, what you’re saying is you guys broke the game?
>:-[

I’m saying I don’t have an ascended weapons.

Me either! Screw ascended weapons and their superior stats with AR.

haviz.1340:

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

Oh they do care. You think Lung Capacity was traded for Empower Allies at random? Ofcourse not. Empower Allies was moved consciously because Anet wanted to slow down total team dps at the high end of the spectrum after giving everyone a 5% boost with Ascended gear. They sold the change as a “buff to support builds” but it is plainly obvious that it was less a buff to support as it was a nerf to direct damage.

And to be further blunt, it wasn’t pvt bowbear rangers with one warrior using no banners in the party who brought EA that made EA a balance issue, it was people like us pushing pve dps to levels that Anet didn’t invision when they designed their dungeons.

:(

So, what you’re saying is you guys broke the game?

>:-[

I believe I have done around 400 fractals and have roughly 7/8 fractals skins.

There really should be a better system.

haviz.1340:

Ethics.4519:

You’re still welcome in my super sweet zerk only speed run gropus, because apparently I require people to not suck.

=)

Thank your for those kind words.

Lol. Those were for lilith.

Get out of here haviz, you should be punished like broadicea ;-)

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

lunyboy.8672:

How about the funniest player fails thread? It doesn’t qualify as a “question” per se, but it is certainly a LOT of people making fun of others.

Most of the posts in that thread are so called elitists pointing out their own fails.

Or how about the erstwhile TA F/U path threads, where e’erybody hopped on the troll bandwagon?

The first few dozen TAFU threads got legit answers. eventually, we all started to assume the posters were trolls continuing a meme and treated them as such.

Also, it should be noted that most of the time we gave legit answers in a TAFU thread we were responded to with “play how you want” BS which is typically the cause of the derailment.

This^ Exactly what my response was going to be.

Bob The Builder.7468:

Added the note, thanks.
Also, does anyone know if my 50% estimate is about right? my sample size was fairly small since I don’t have a billion tokens

About 50% seemed right for me (excluding the the first 10 of the wrong stats =))

I couldn’t care less.

Living story is bland and I’m over it. I’d rather have good, lasting content.

Balance changes were mostly a joke. Mesmers got more of a nerf than a buff (even if it just was a bug fix) and warrior is the last class needing a buff.

You can absorb mossman’s axe in fractals and use it against a tough enemy next round if you don’t die.

The issue is you still get hit with agony. Fire shaman’s attack does very little damage to him in grawl, and you still get hit with agony ticks

mosspit.8936:

It generally applies to stat combinations you can’t craft yourselves.

Yeah, I was just unaware of this criteria as I didn’t see it in the original post. After 5 I thought I was just having bad luck, at 10 I knew something was wrong.

I noticed somebody later pointed out the stat combos.

haviz.1340:

Unfortunately, from the design view, ele is in bad spot.

You could replace the word “ele” with “living story”, “dungones”, “end game”, “ascended armor”, “fractals”, etc… and it would still be the same point.

You’re still welcome in my super sweet zerk only speed run gropus, because apparently I require people to not suck.

=)

I salvaged 10 and didn’t get a single one back. I think I’ll just sit this one out for awhile

Edit: I bought rampagers. Maybe make a note in the origianl that it’s only rabid, soldier, dire, and I think magi?

mikexg.7329:

What is the difference between fractals and dungeons? I found it was very difficult to duo/trio dungeons in the past, is it possible now?

Dungeons can be soloed. Look up Wethospu on youtube.

As for fractals, it is an increasing dungeon.

There are 3 rounds (randomly choosen maps out of 8/9) and then the jade maw on the even levels. Each time you do a level, you progress higher, starting at lvl 1.

The higher you go, the better rewards you get. People will complain about this, but at level 10+ you have a chance of ascended ring, 26+ has a chance of infused ring and/or fractal skin, and ascended weapons at some level.

On the reverse side, it gets harder and harder. You need more AR and there are some different mechanics (mostly just more mobs) the higher you go.

Edit: I also find your statement awkward. You said your favorite thing was to duo/trio content meant to not be duoed/trioed. That’s exactly what dungeons are. Meant for 5 man groups, but you can easily trio them.

Brother Grimm.5176:

The post is appreciated, but those times are useless without a Time Zone indication.

My guess would be server time. But…. that’s nothing more than an assumption.

Not much has changed end game. You can no craft ascended weapons.

Nothing has been changed in regards to duoing/trioing content. Couple dungeon changes, but nothing major. Just duo/trio the dungeons as usual (some fractals require a certain number of people).

Leagues have been introduced to WvW.

Honestly, if you got bored earlier, you’ll probably get bored again. Fractals (if you like dungeons) would keep you entertained for awhile, but eventually you’d probably be bored again.

No tl;dr means I dr.

Dungeons are static because the dungeon team was removed and force to spew out horrible content every two weeks for the living story.

RIP in peace Robert

Lilith Ajit.6173:

While I agree they are super profitable, I’m still trying to wrap my head around the end dungeon gold differences. I don’t really care at the end of the day, though I’d like to see the logic behind the allotments.

Honestly, I think it’s a mix of difficulty and what Anet wants you to run.

Why is AC 1.5g and COE 1g? Because they wanted to give incentives for people to run their awesome new AC design. That way when it comes time for a raise, the “dungeon team” (heavy quotes intended) can say “Look! People run AC even more, yay us”

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

I’m just saying, when you factor in actual game play realities…

1. Few boss fights last longer than 30 seconds. Many last fewer than 15.
2. Phantasms get killed quite often, especially Warden.
3. It takes 12 seconds for you to ramp up to max dps, and thats assuming the first two issues are non-issues.

When you start narrowing the list of boss fights where phantasms rarely die, the fight lasts long enough to get 3 up, and is long enough to maintain 3 up for sufficient time to inflict serious dps you see the list is quite small where the theoretical dps matches observable reality.

But…. we have portal!

lunyboy.8672:

some of the people that come here to the dungeon forums do so ONLY to make fun of others that come here to ask legitimate questions.

Show me ONE SINGLE thread where somebody makes fun of somebody asking a legitimate question on the dungeons forum.

It may get derailed, but if it’s a legitimate question, it will mostly likely be answered.

Chopps.5047:

I didn’t think of that but I was planning on using it against Mossman. Hopefully someone will get a chance to test it tomorrow. I’ll be busy most of the day.

100% of me really hopes we can use it on mossman.

95% of me thinks he will be immune to it.

Good:

1) Not being rude.

2) Able to listen and follow directions.

LostBalloon.6423:

I really hope you were trolling

Yes, he was.

deSade.9437:

You know, I think I want anet to keep ignoring the dungeons. They do more harm than anything…

Haha, you’re spot on.

Love your sig btw. That vid should be made a sticky.

deSade.9437:

For a moment, I read underwear combat. Me silly perv.

That would be favorite dungeon… ever. Even more so than COE!

Mesmers.

You use confusion (both the condition and actual act of confusing your enemy with clones) rather than relying on toughness.

I have all 8. My guardian is my least favorite to play, however one of my favorite classes to party with.

They have good damage and are pretty valuable to a party. Warriors are known for having high damage and survivability, with little skill needed.

Tree.3916:

Those roses are for me! Lupicus is my boyfrand.

Lupi’s version

Tree.3916:

This is more of a suggestion than a dungeon thread.

We have been having far too many of these lately.

Tree.3916:

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

AntiGw.9367:

Tree.3916:

I love free loot.
@AntiGW: Not all players are created equally so why are you trying to force us to be equals?

Nobody is trying to force you to be equals. You can be as unequal as you like.

The game however, needs to encourage a more tolerant and respectful community. It should not encourage your elitist discrimination and hate towards other players.

THE IRONY

You got to it before me :/

His hate is for the better of the community, your hate is bringing everybody down.

/s

I turned all my taffy into cupcakes. If I’m not speedrunning with the guild, I’ll pop one of those.

daros.3407:

Would be nice to have more loot :-D But if anyone think this would bring more defensive builds to dungeons instead of full zerg then he is wrong becouse good zerk party never wipes.

Yeah, but bad pugs that are half zerk and half PTV wipe all the time.

I think it would just encourage pugs to have 1 person camp at beginning WP and 4man the dungeon (depending on rewards/actual mechanics)

Infamous Darkness.3284:

does your guide provide such useful information like the pro tips for bearbow rangers I really just want to play the way I want

zerk players hate him!

This is so easy I’m not even gonna try.

And by that I mean congrats, nice accomplishment.

Yes, everybody delete them. That way when they actually make them worth something, I’ll be the king of bloodstone dusts!