Guild Wars 2

Shirlias.8104:

how do you check the dps?

btw they said they want thieves use initiative most for defense ( i don’t get how it could counter a 17k/sec dmg, but lets go on ), so they chose to incrase weapons dps ( seems just strange that dagger have 50% extra dps than a staff/sword ).

you test dmg on which golem btw ?
Light Armor?

Target golem

mrauls.6519:

Thief was always meant to do high damage but be very sensitive to damage themselves… IMO

But 6k AA DPS without might with sPvP stats ? In WvWvW Thief with ascendent gear and food kill everi one only with AA lol

I have one question. Who test this patche before release ?

Revenant with full berserker gear and full DPS build vs Thief with same armor/traits.

Thief

Dagger AA DPS – 6k!!!!!
Sword AA DPS – 4.6k
Staff AA DPS 4.7k

Revenant

Sword AA DPS 3.2k !!!

Burtnik.5218:

Meanwhile my friend thief kills heavy golem with aa under the same time i do but with quickness. Prepare to be destroyed and teabagged

I test Revenant AA dps with full berserker stats and traits and Thief Dagger AA

Revenant sword AA DPS is 3.2k
Thief Dagger dps is 6k lol , Sword DPS 3.6k and Staff DPS 3.7k

steve.2945:

Evilek.5690:

steve.2945:

welp, time to jump off the revenant ship, thanks anet, you ruined a perfectly fun class.

True lol. I test right now Precision strike and I can say only one thing. 4.5k its my bigest hit on single target with light armor lol

I just tested it too, my highest sword crit is 7.5k, i can barely even reach 4k.

Berserker amulet + pack runes + full DPS build. But dont worry Guardian was hit hard with this super duper balance patche

steve.2945:

welp, time to jump off the revenant ship, thanks anet, you ruined a perfectly fun class.

True lol. I test right now Precision strike and I can say only one thing. 4.5k its my bigest hit on single target with light armor lol

Ehecatl.9172:

Evilek.5690:

Ehecatl.9172:

The HP of our pets is cut in half in SPVP so they aren’t too tanky.

Take your Bristleback into Heart of the Mists. It will have 16,243 HP. At least with the buff from Beastmastery. Less without.

Ofc same armor like bunker Guardian and more HP and DPS in s PvP GJ =)

There is DPS test

1 – Bristle DPS only – 1300/1620 DPS
2 – Bunker Guardian with Staff – Cleric amulet – 860/920 DPS/Spike DPS
3 – Bunker Guardian with GS – Cleric amulet – 1280/1320 DPS

Guardian Armor 3242 and 12895 HP
Bristle Toughness without Armor stats 3348 and 16243 Hp !!!

This is balance !

I think you missed the part where the bristleback can’t dodge or use any defensive skills at all. It can’t even remove conditions from itself. Want to kill the pet? Drop a condi bomb on it. The ranger basically has to switch out or it goes on a 60 second cooldown.

There is more to survival than numbers.

But of course that’s inconvenient to the point you’re trying to make.

Kill pet ? This is joke right ? This works maybe when is Ranger afk and you fight only vs ranger pet. And even if you managed to accidentally drop pet HP on 10%, ranger click F4 without penalty every 15 sec.

Ehecatl.9172:

The HP of our pets is cut in half in SPVP so they aren’t too tanky.

Take your Bristleback into Heart of the Mists. It will have 16,243 HP. At least with the buff from Beastmastery. Less without.

Ofc same armor like bunker Guardian and more HP and DPS in s PvP GJ =)

There is DPS test

1 – Bristle DPS only – 1300/1620 DPS
2 – Bunker Guardian with Staff – Cleric amulet – 860/920 DPS/Spike DPS
3 – Bunker Guardian with GS – Cleric amulet – 1280/1320 DPS

Guardian Armor 3242 and 12895 HP
Bristle Toughness without Armor stats 3348 and 16243 Hp !!!

This is balance !

This topic is funny. All ranger here say " Bristle its OK, old pets are much better"
Question is Why 98% Rangers use only this two new pets when old pets are much stronger ?

Derm.4932:

thank god

i’d rather have a berserker meta. at least that takes some amount of skill. current meta turns skill clickers into pro

What ? Berserker meta need skill ? Mesmer,Thief stealth instagib really need skill lol

DiogoSilva.7089:

Fade to Black.7042:

AA nerf wasn’t needed and -20% dmg second hit it’s just overwhelming ….

If you think a 10% and a 20% damage nerf is overwhelming, then you’ll faint with the +200% damage buff vs single targets that was given to sword #2.

Seriously, this is one of the biggest buffs I’ve seen Anet do to a single skill in the history of GW2’s balance. The balance patch following the next one might potentially have the new precision strike nerfed.

But that’s how the profession forums work, I guess. People love to be victims. They purposefully undervalue or ignore any buffs revealed so that they can cry in peace about the nerfs.

AA DPS without crit and 2500 Power is 4448 with quikness 6672

Precision strike DMG is 2766 4 sec CD = DPS 691,5

New AA DPS after 10% nerf is 4043/6064

New Precision strike DMG when you attack on single target is 8298 and DPS 2704

On one min boss fight you make with old AA DMG – 266.880/400320 totall DMG
With new AA DMG only you make 242582/363870
And new AA + new Precision strike = 15x precision strike = 124.470 and 45sec AA DPS = 181.935. Totall 306.405/ DMG

Yep this is really good buff but only on single target, in team fight or fight vs many mobs or player with pets will have zero effect. I understand what ArenaNet plans, problem starts in PvP (only in 1v1 situation) this spell will by too strong and ArenaNet nerf him bact to the garbage.

Burtnik.5218:

Astralporing.1957:

UmbraNoctis.1907:

Skullface.7293:

Once Bristleback becomes kittenty the ranger can just put an Owl and one shot people with the appropriate build.

Birds are too vulnerable to the high aoe/cleave dmg of some classes. They won’t survive long enough to be a real threat in many cases.

Incidentally, this is also the case with bristleback. The only difference is that bristleback is ranged and so can possibly unload its damage before dying. Assuming the opponents stay in place to receive it instead of, you know, dodging or using a block/evade/invuln.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Juvenile_Owl

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Juvenile_Bristleback
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Juvenile_Smokescale

Poor “squishy” like owl pets..

Bristleback has buged stats to.

Wiki say (without traits)

Power Power 1,718
Precision Precision 1,374
Toughness Toughness 2,748
Vitality Vitality 2,061
Ferocity Ferocity 0
Healing Power Healing Power 0
Condition Damage Condition Damage 1,000
Agony Resistance Agony Resistance 0

And there is really stats,without and with traits. When you use “Go for the Eye” his toughness is 3348, yeah so squishi pet with machinegun.

Bristreback F2 on my cele/tank druid instagib every player with maraurder or berserker amulet. Combinate with taunt or quickness traits it’s without counter.

Its really funny looks on Thief how use stun lock combo on me and in same time where iam in stun lock my Bristreback melt him.

My recommendation is fix numbers of projectiles (20→15) + decrease damage every projection for 50% and decrease cast speed on 1.5s instead 3.75s

The problem is that the Revenant causes damage in PVE only with AA, other skill on sword has zero DPS and Unrelenting Assault fail 70% of cases + other weapon set has low DPS like noodle.

Warrior has in raid 40k DPS other class maybe 25k !!!! Where is warrior DPS nerf ?

we’ll be looking to tone down the revenant’s sword damage in some areas and adjust the weapon’s abilities so that it’s less focused on autoattacking and better at singling out and attacking enemies.

And you nerf AA + Unrelenting Assault and maybe little boost Precision Strike.

Ara.4569:

Real reason it’s down is because it was clearly showing that people with 47% win rate can reach legendary. Just tank mmr like crazy.

By the way, mmr tanking has not been addressed for season 2. It’s like anet saying: “long live mmr tanking!”

+1

Dia/Lege is full of players with 30% win rate, i have no idea how this low skill players hit this Division

And please make Division drop on next season. When player lose “maybe” 5 game in row with 0 pips in division = drop back to previous division.

Problem right now is that many bad player hit Dia/Legend and start trolling because they are on safe spot. Its very frustrate play with the players who have 25-30% win rate.

Long queue its not problem, in all MOBA/MMO/FPS games where you play on top rating its queue 30m-1h. Mixed low rank with top rank is bad idea.

When you want short queue time go play hot join

This test made maybe 10 years old child.

3.6k armor Revenant with full DPS traits on sword and full defense traits with highest AA dps weapons in his armory vs Elementalist without armor/HP with lowest DPS AA weapon in his armory".

When you want made test, dont use trinket and attack only with base stats.

This full tank vs paper with ranged weapons burn my eyes

Okey thanks

Where is sPvP Leaderboard ?

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Evilek.5690:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

You need only report the player in-game, or create a Support Ticket. I’m afraid it is against the rules to Name and Shame on the forums.

Good luck.

Report is impissible beacose this players are under texture =)

There are two ways to /report someone who you cannot select:

• Add them to your /friends or /block list and use that to /report.
• Take a screenshot and (your choice) create a support ticket or email exploits@arena.net.

This does the same thing that the more convenient option (target, right-click, /report) does: it starts the investigation.

You dont understand lol. This bots mining under texture -> you don’t see this player -> you can not target this player -> no report

Now tell me how report this player ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1JgHiJlLv4 , this is not my video but show my problem.

You has maybe 5 sec time to click on player and in a minority of cases you see this bot name on 0.5 sec when you are lucky boy

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

You need only report the player in-game, or create a Support Ticket. I’m afraid it is against the rules to Name and Shame on the forums.

Good luck.

Report is impissible beacose this players are under texture =)

Ross Biddle.2367:

REGGADO.1237:

Once seen ranger ported in downstate, no tranfusion no nothing. After that I took a eye on him, when noone was around him he ported around like crazy.
Imagine smart thief or mesmer doing it all time, noone could tell person hacking.

Welcome to WvW three years ago till now.

The ignorance that has cropped up in this thread is nearing astounding XD

Right in WvWvW its no problem to meet speed hacker every single day, in 90% of cases speed hack use clases with stealth (use stealth + speed hack and bye bye).

Next big problém is PVE content, i see every day harvest bots with teleport hack and pernament harvest pick lol.They mined ore from the texture of the map so that no visible->impossible target this bot = no report, you see only effect of unlimited mining pick on ore and mining sound

My ping in all other in game content is 45 – 55 (WvWvW,world event and Heart of the Mists).The problem arises when i join to sPvP matches, my ping increases on 200+ with x sec lag spike-

Any one same problem like me ?

Leeto.1570:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Rofl, he’s so blatant about it too. And made it all the way to diamond too without being banned first XD

Dunno he covering tracks pretty good when i said im reporting he said “Im lagging, kitten and learn to play” almost believed.

Hehe lag dont increase move speed, player in lag stay on one place or goes in one direction and especially can not use abilities. This is pure speed/teleport hack.

Teleport hack =)

Play this and you easy defence point vs 3-4 people (more enemy on your point = more pew pew heal) http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQRAoY4Yl8MhCnYzTw3JQ/ELUF1c139hfXPFANg3F8BbHA-TJxHwABeBAOLD4a/BAHFAA

Race: Charr
Sex: male
Profession: Revenant
Weapon Set: Staff(all)

When revenant use staff AA in motion, staff 2x change possition in his hands and charracter make one big lag animation.
Without motion is all right

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NTxHoCX4M0

When revenant use staff AA in motion, staff 2x change possition in his hands and charracter make one big lag animation.

Without motion is all right

DeceiverX.8361:

Conditions got buffed massively due to people whining about their dire condi tank builds not being able to out-DPS berserker-geared players in speed-run dungeons with very easy and very stale encounters.

The thief has limited cleansing available and a low health pool, making it extremely weak to conditions innately.

It’s just a bad state to be in. I usually just don’t bother fighting people who condition-oriented weapons because it’s pretty much a surefire loss unless investing deeply into camping stealth with Shadow’s Embrace and Rejuv.

What,What ?!! limited cleasing ? Hide in Shadows 3 , Signet of Agility 1, Infiltrator’s Return 1. Shadowstep 2. 3x codition cleanse with CD andone without CD.

Now traits: DD Escapist’s Absolution – cleanse condition every evade,

Traits 2:Tric Trickster = cleanse condition on all tricks skills – Withdraw,Caltrops,Haste,Roll for Initiative,Scorpion Wire,Dagger Storm.

Traits 3: SA Shadow’s Embrace =clenase condition every stealth – Blinding Powder,Shadow Refuge,Shadow Pursuit,Cloak and Dagger etc.

Traits 3: Acro Pain Response,Guarded Initiation,Don’t Stop (imune on immobil,chill/criple -50% duration)

Yeah Thief has limited conditions cleansing lol.

D/P,P/D,S/D Thief is unkillable with condition build

Yeah boost my immortal Thief to more . I want 20k Fist Flurry because 11k is to low and15k Impairing Daggers because 9k is garbage.

florian.6021:

Seriously what happened with my fav class I am runnung full pvt armor and still I go insta down and what is with the conditions everytime I have just 3stacks of something and already 50% health gone. That seriously make me want to quit this game

What ? Maybe stop play full dps build with berserker amulet. I died maybe 1-2 per match in sPvP and in wvwvw is impossible kill Thief with brain.

Thief is hardest play class in game and nothing for clicker.

Done event start 19:54 UTC +1

For ArenaNet team.

Its possible fix this broken RNG in this collection ? This collection killed maybe 7 hour on my live for nothing.

Because this ranked system is broken like hell, this “save spots” every next tier make this ranked system noob friendly and it is not uncommon to meet player with 30% win rate in Ruby.

1.6m with DH but vs 2x mesmer and minion master

I go shiro/glint like tank in raids with commander armor + soldier accessories.
This build http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vlAQNAsemn3guNSuQ7JRboVlsP0rS4IaWJ4EdskFNFiNMnpNtDIANwugJshA-TRRQABdo8bFlgLr+DA7P0j+ASBYxQL-e

You must be on same server like Desolation etc and in same location.

BTW: want invite button in squad/raid UI

Vault = DMG = reveal Thief. And 22k DMG single Vault ? Maybe in another fairytale

Skill with 3/4 cast time and big jump animation, one single dodge break himl.

I play DH and must say yes this is game breaking. Guardian has with this “bug” 20+ sec block/invulnerability in row without limits.

I use Viper/Sinister and Commander/valk+ber. Full berserker is bad idea.

Morwath.9817:

Wolfs Shadow.7234:

Morwath.9817:

It’s just a broken skill, combined with two heals, evades (Shiro) and block on shield (Glint) Revenants are too tanky and too mobile at same time.

To tanky!? Have you played a rev before?

Have you played a Thief? Now figure what means squishy.

Joke right ? Thief has 5x more survival skills, better healing and DMG. Maybe L2P your class before you start write on forum.

BlackBunny.3681:

You counter it by being range (lol jk they teleport on you drop all traps instantly and you die)…. lets keep it simple you counter a dragon hunter by rerolling dragon hunter.

Wait a minute. Guardian teleport on you and instantly palce TRAPS with cast time and activate time ? This is really interesting.

RedDeadFred.1256:

Playing against a competent opponent as Revenant is always scary because you go to activate your Glint heal, heal maybe 2k, and then your opponent realizes what’s going on leaving you with a very pitiful heal.

If they’re negating your damage with shield 5 after your rotation, that says a lot more about how much damage you’re actually putting out than how much they’re actually healing.

+1

Skill 5 on shield is suicide button. You are rooted and enemy has enough time to prepare burst DMG =)

glaphen.5230:

Jekkt.6045:

unrelenting assault:

- dodge it
- block it
- stand next to a wall
- stand next to allies / ai
- interrupt it, casting time is 3/4s
- go into stealth

infuse light:

- don’t attack when heal is up
- burst when not in glint
- watch enemy buffs
- use your brain
- don’t brainlessly spam your aoe
- poke until rev is forced to activate heal
- bait the heal

crystal hybernation:

- everything that is unblockable: phoenix, mirrorblade, toolkit pull, traps, etc

other than its damage revenant is weak. there are so many counters to revenants…

Lol what, so much sustain on Revenant it’s a joke. 2 3 second blocks healing 4k each per 25 seconds, Guardian heal skill Shelter is 2 second block for 4.5k every 30 seconds. 2 second evade every 12 seconds, movement impairing conditions removed every 6-9 seconds of Shiro regen giving .75 second evade and 50 endurance for another .75 second evade and nearly 2 uses ready the moment you swap back to it. 2 heals one doing 6k damage and healing every 30 seconds and one doing 2k and healing you for any damage taken for 4 seconds, longer than the Warrior version even if you take the trait and that has a cast time. 2k heal every 15 seconds with protection in an AoE.

He he he you play same game ?

Guardian.

Mace+Focus+LB

Mace 3-block + massive DMG
Focus 4-blind + heal
Focus 5-block five attacks + massive DMG

F2 – AOE 4k heal + regen + 1.2k DMG + 3 sec imobil
F3 – 7 sec block + protection + aegis + retaliation

Shelter – 4.6k heal 2 sec block.
Fragmens of Faith – Breake stun – 10x aegis = 10x block.
Renewed Focus – 3 sec Invurnerable and RESET F1,F2,F3

No here “AFK” choice in report system =)

grahf.7540:

Traps still do a kitten-ton of dmg. I played a bunch of PVP last night, which was apparently after these nerfs (didn’t know anything was nerfed) and I still did my usual 500k+ dmg and almost never died. I didn’t notice any changes…

500k DMG ? My Reaper make 850k-1m every game lol.

SlayerSixx.5763:

nicknamenick.2437:

Well if they take away the unblockable part of “deflecting shot” i would be happy for now..

At the moment this skill just breaks my defensive abilities (knockback trait) and leaves me blinded and interrupted + vulnerable for all other stuff DH can do, its not like DH doesnt have enough unblockable stuff.

10 sec unblockable blind is already very good (+ it destroys projectiles) but because its unblockable it will trigger the knockback trait.. interrupting shield stance or any other block skill.

Greetings your little brother Warrior

^thia needs a fix too lol. Not only because its kinda like blinding dissipation hitting through evades pre fix, but its kinda annoying to have another DH interrupt my shelter x.×.

Skill without interrupt effect interrupt your shelter right ? Maybe with proc Heavy Light =)