Guild Wars 2

Spendingallmytime.7249:

It’s pathetic to cry and moan in order to pressure Anet in to add the fractal that loses. It is.

The real pathetic thing is to vote for a 4 week discount instead of a permanent content.

Alys Florent.1359:

Gandarel.5091:

[b]casuals, don’t care about anything but shallow goals without thinking about the future. With the waypoints, Kiel has an iWin button. However, she is still leading the vote charts only by a bit, even after this.

Seriously?

I’m voting for Kiel because I want the Thaumanova fractal. I think Abaddon will inevitably be disappointing. Not all “casuals” are voting for Kiel and not all “non-casuals” are voting for Gnashblade. Try not to be so polemic about this.

Who votes for Kiel because of the reactor, I don’t agree, but I accept that, since you know the options and vote for the permanent content.

But your Kiel couldn’t be winning without the waypoint costs that mezmerized 99% of the casuals. There’s a bigger desire for the fall of Abaddon, it’s just that everything else is against Evon.

Gnat.9405:

They already said no

I don’t care. It’s really enough for you to give up?

Many of us were w8ing for years to have a chance like the Abaddon fractal, and will be pretty mad.

Hands down, both fractals sound amazing. To have only one and at the cost of losing the other… it’s just not fun any longer.

This is a message to ArenaNet! Whoever wins, you will make nearly 50% of your playerbase disappointed (this means actually millions of players), you will even lose players if you don’t do both fractals!

Whoever wins, his/her fractal should be made first, but after that, the other too. Also, players who don’t even play fractals highly influence the outcome which is the beyond nonsense.
If you support the idea, write a + or something showing your support towards this suggestion.

You think a good-doer fits a pirate council? Are you serious?

A reactor explosion with more asuras (60% of this game is about asuras), rather than a fight between gods that’s outcome changed to whole world?

Silicato.4603:

The evon guys should be happy that a bad guy, with 0 lore in his back until a few days ago, and a fractal with very old lore around it, have reached to the 48% of the votes.

I guess that you have spend a lot of money on it, because the logic think would be that the winner was the heroine that we know since a lot of months ago, who makes benefits in the wp and who will bring a fractal of something that people recon.

You should be proud to make the impossible, reach to the 48% of the votes.

But don´t make any mistake, you still have to surpass the 383k votes wall and the kiel suporters have a lot more of the votes who are coming, so think bigger on that difference

I just no longer know what to say to the shallow people like you.

Abaddon is the real lore that determined how is GW2 taking shape.

A chance for fractal about him just can’t be described… also for a battle of gods..

On the other hand, yes, it’s pretty unfair as you point it out, that we had months to know Kiel, and they gave her an iWin button with the waypoint costs. Unfair unfair unfair.

inazuma.7021:

RainbowSyrup.4130:

why do I have a feeling 80% of the ppl voting for kiel only votes for her for the cheaper waypoints?

As if 80% of those voting for Evon are not voting for him only for the Abaddon thing?

Abaddon = permanent.

Waypoints = 4 weeks..

Ronah.2869:

I am not interested in dungeons, fractals or any type of PVP, WvW. Roughly 70% of the game does not interest me. So, I vote for Keil because she is not a murderer like Evon.

Welcome to the charr society. And Evon did that to save the people of LA.

Don’t get me wrong, I love the idea. But this is the first time ArenaNet tries something like this, and they shouldn’t give the right to the players to decide permanent things – mostly if they aren’t involved in what they are deciding about.

The Fractal problem
Roughly 40% of the voters don’t play fractals. (based on a survey in a guild with 500 players) – nearly all of them are voting for Kiel, because she offers cheaper waypoint.

However, the 80% of Evon supporters vote for him to get the Fall of Abaddon fractal. – meaning that there’s a ways more desire for the Fall of Abaddon.

The waypoint problem
Whoever offers this, gets the casual playerbase’s vote. They have false hopes, many of them think it’s a permanent change/waypoints will be free.

Whoever wins, the majority will be angry
Sounds impossible, right? The thing is, if Kiel wins, fractal players will have a map 70-80% of them didn’t want.

If Evon gets to council, the casuals will be unhappy (for roughly 2 days).

Also casuals, don’t care about anything but shallow goals without thinking about the future. With the waypoints, Kiel has an iWin button. However, she is still leading the vote charts only by a bit, even after this.

Suggestion: make this a test for you, don’t skip one of the fractals, just develope that some months later. If one gets skipped, people will play the winner’s fractal with the thoughts: “I could be playing x right now”. Let the players decide the priority list of permanent contents, but nothing else! Both fractals can be awesome – reactor for GW2 players and Abaddon for GW1 players.

GW2 players don’t even know who is Abaddon (they should meet him for this reason), and it can be told about Evon too. You call this a fair vote? Still Kiel is barely winning. If they would have the same chances ( both would give reduced waypoint costs), Evon would lead by 70-30 at least.

Thanks for reading

Kojiden.8405:

I don’t want to see a treaty signed. The charr need to wage war against the humans again.

I used to agree, but this trety gives the whole Fields of Ruin to the humans, and I hope they can rebuild a part os Ascalon :p

We need a voice effect when someone pings a point on the map, so people realize. Because currently you just miss it.

Lord Trejgon.2809:

Konig Des Todes.2086:

TBH, I’d rather not have a living story that gives us one new zone or so in an ever multi-month long campaign against an Elder Dragon (face it, sooner or later they will go after the other Elder Dragons) or god forbid, getting access to Elona – one zone at a time each month! >.<

Yeah… in such cases, an expansion would be much better. But when expanding the story of pre-existing zones (or small zones like Southsun or Labyrinthine), then living story is adequate.

actually when we know that we have to take back many tarrains from Palawa Yoko’s Army – that “map-by-map” living story method would be understandable and it have a chance to be rather well-done (You know like we had to take controll over southsun – just more difficult and takes more time…)
(for example – for first aim – Jarrin Plains of Istan Island – we can take some position in first two-week part and the whole two weeks we are making it through by some intersting events to the next part which is… retaking Sunspear great hall or start with retaking sunspear great hall in the first half of the week, and two-week-patch evaluates into retaking Camadan – just let it not be so bugged as ancient karka)

This way I think the whole continent would be a lvl 80 zone – that’s too much. If we will ever get a new continent, we need some new leveling paths with them, or else it would be as abandoned as southsun.

Also,
*Kamadan
*Palawa Joko

They’ve seen a charr on the concept art and they think this means the treaty is signed…

I think the treaty would be an interesting living story, even for months.

Romek.4201:

ppl dont go there only for glory or rank – wtf

cant you guyz understand it is an mmorpg and it has an mmorpg playerbase and alot playerz in hotjoin just go there to make pvp and dont wanna care for a leaderboard or ranking or tactic or whatever

they jsut go in solo and mess with some wtf-builds or do it with 2-3 friends and so on
this ppl make pvp just to make pvp – to have fun

hotjoin is fine and dont need any change – when you think you need more glory than this ppl or more rankpointz or whatever makes you happy than ask for it but dont force people to play with you when they dont kitten care bout how you think the game have to be.

pvp population in this game is so bad it dont need some wannabe elitists to mess with the casual pvp – JUST NO

this game even need much more casual pvp – like all this event (pvp) activities – dont understand why they dont add this to the hotjoin browser^^

we need to bring more ppl in pvp not remove them

thx

Desolation is the main Pvp server – yet days pass without a single team forming in mapchat for tournament.

Why? Not just because low number of active players, but because if you make an r40+ team, most of the guys who join you will be the ones that farmed their rank from hotjoin, because decent guys got their own team, don’t want to destroy rating, and know they can’t trust hotjoin heroes. – it’s good that they want to finally start playing tournaments, but they are too late with that, since their rank is usually ways higher than their experience.

You just can’t pick guys by their rank any longer bacuse of hotjoin grinding.

Schlieffen.2054:

Gandarel.5091:

if you don’t add time for 2 weeks they delete your item that costed you 1.6k gems. Cute, isn’t it? And this is not mentioned when you buy it.

Thank you so much for mentioning this, I had no idea.

At least i could save someone else

Hotjoin neds to go. Its mere existence cripples and consumes PvP from within.

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

Mystylaise.4673:

New game modes ? Answer here : http://youtu.be/8pabPl4SYtU?t=20m40s

COD and LOL as example.
We are doomed. ^^

I don’t get it why are they looking for the most nonsense ways to develop things. I get it they want something new, but taking aspects from other genres aren’t that unique btw.

There’s a game called GW1. Take things from there.

Parisalchuk.9230:

Gandarel.5091:

Parisalchuk.9230:

Gandarel.5091:

Parisalchuk.9230:

Gandarel.5091:

All they need is a GW2 version of Heroes’ Ascent. Basically you don’t split the que to 10 different gamemodes and maps, they make 1 que, with a progressive tourament with lots of gamemodes and maps where consecutive wins get you further, with a goal to get to the Hall of Heroes. – this way we get variety, a goal to play for, community won’t split and everyone is happy

Keep conquest as the e-sport scene, but give something for those who came to play an MMO, or came from a game without what you couldn’t be here (GW1).

Almost all HM maps turned into death match rather than actually playing the game mechanic. There were only a few (though yes, there were some) that were not death match. Even GvG was dominated by death match.

Why is it that GW1 true PvP (Not FA/JQ) which focused on death match get the pass and used as the shining example of PvP and GW2 is crucified for 1 game type.

Exactly. Conquest is like a smaller evrsion of AB, and AB wasn’t even considered Pvp by the players.

Their only reason to abandon deathmatch was that 2 sides were just watching each other without starting the fight, then everyone just popped his elite… well, lock the elite skills, and palce some kind of commune points on the map, or throw in a flag to both starter areas, and if someone takes the flag to the middle of the map, they can use their elite skills.
Both problems solved, because you will want to use your elite skill. Not perfect, but took me 0.2 seconds to come up with this…

DM doesnt work in GW2 because of how the classes are built. To much independence and not enough reliance on your teammates for survival outside of res and an occasional peel.

If you can kill your enemy in a teamfight then i don’t get it why wouldn’t DM work. We did some fun 2v2 matches in my CA, and we managed to kill off each other always, even bunkers went down. (all 4 of us were around top 100-400, so not hotjoin heroes).

If you have DM mode, you will get DM builds. Already a support guardian with some DPS and a spirit ranger can 2v2 things without dying for basically forever with a ton of res support. Does that really sound more entertaining than what we have now? Atleast now if you run into a bunker you can focus on one of the other map mechanics or push a different node. Pure killing… your stuck auto attacking eachother because you realize neither team is going to die. The converse, if you run pure glass builds, is that you have a whole 5 second team fight before 1 person gets burst down and the fight is then over.

If this game needs more modes, death match is not one of them.

Gandarel.5091:

There’re are 2 things that devs completely forgot: this is an MMO, and this is a sequel.

MMOs need variety, and GW1 had it. Just add some pretty high expectations to the soup, and you get many many very very very disappointed core-players who are no longer your target audience.

Your wrong, in my opinion, on both fronts. MMOs need PvE which is exactly what the vast majority of Anet dev team is focused on and this is not a direct sequel to GW1 as Anet has stated many times. This game is its own game, ment to stand up on its own and while it takes some things from GW1 the intent has always been to design a NEW game and not an updated clone of GW1.

1st: they told us this game will have everything we loved from GW1 – it has nothing but the places in PvE – but all of them as ruins.

2nd: I mean they tend to forget this is an MMO, because for example, in the last sotg they compared it to starcraft and some fps games, they realized that even those things got more than 1 gamemodes, but starcraft is fine with 1, and they were reasoning with this. – well I don’t know any MMO with only 1 gamemode and no deathmatch.

3rd: I don’t want to play GW1 2.0, however it would be a lot more successful PvP-wise. If they would take some gamemodes from GW1 and would modify them to match GW2 – you wouldn’t complain, believe me.

There’re are 2 things that devs completely forgot: this is an MMO, and this is a sequel.

MMOs need variety, and GW1 had it. Just add some pretty high expectations to the soup, and you get many many very very very disappointed core-players who are no longer your target audience.

samo.1054:

uberkingkong.8041:

Que with 1 or 2 of your buddies and check roster when it appears and disband if your not with them.

Tyler Chapman.1832:

The roster will be hidden in Solo Q so this doesn’t happen.

Thank you kind sir, oh thank you lord!!

Altho I’m still a bit afraid we might see teams of 2 people of the same guild in the same team… Chances for that of course depend on how many people will que and how the system works?

Does it wait a certain time interval, take the players it got in that interval and randomly puts them into the team, or are teams composed in real time as players sign-up (which would lead to sync entering…)?

Actually, the more iformation we get about it, the easier people find a way around it.

Also, if you fail your sync and will face each other, that’s a rating loss for oen of you, so I don’t think it will worth it. Mostly because a successful sync is just 1 match, not 25 like in GW1.

As far as I know, molten drops won’t return (source: a Colin interview)

Read the forum for tips.

Parisalchuk.9230:

Gandarel.5091:

Parisalchuk.9230:

Gandarel.5091:

All they need is a GW2 version of Heroes’ Ascent. Basically you don’t split the que to 10 different gamemodes and maps, they make 1 que, with a progressive tourament with lots of gamemodes and maps where consecutive wins get you further, with a goal to get to the Hall of Heroes. – this way we get variety, a goal to play for, community won’t split and everyone is happy

Keep conquest as the e-sport scene, but give something for those who came to play an MMO, or came from a game without what you couldn’t be here (GW1).

Almost all HM maps turned into death match rather than actually playing the game mechanic. There were only a few (though yes, there were some) that were not death match. Even GvG was dominated by death match.

Why is it that GW1 true PvP (Not FA/JQ) which focused on death match get the pass and used as the shining example of PvP and GW2 is crucified for 1 game type.

Exactly. Conquest is like a smaller evrsion of AB, and AB wasn’t even considered Pvp by the players.

Their only reason to abandon deathmatch was that 2 sides were just watching each other without starting the fight, then everyone just popped his elite… well, lock the elite skills, and palce some kind of commune points on the map, or throw in a flag to both starter areas, and if someone takes the flag to the middle of the map, they can use their elite skills.
Both problems solved, because you will want to use your elite skill. Not perfect, but took me 0.2 seconds to come up with this…

DM doesnt work in GW2 because of how the classes are built. To much independence and not enough reliance on your teammates for survival outside of res and an occasional peel.

If you can kill your enemy in a teamfight then i don’t get it why wouldn’t DM work. We did some fun 2v2 matches in my CA, and we managed to kill off each other always, even bunkers went down. (all 4 of us were around top 100-400, so not hotjoin heroes).

Try to hold 2 points, pushing to the 3rd can be risky, but if you are losing a teamfight, decapping the farpoint can win you time.

To newbies: don’t capture an empty node together. You are no longer in hotjoin.

KingClash.3186:

Thesilentflute.8761:

Stay out of hot join so you don’t pick up bad habits.

I see soloQ being the new hot join at least until its shine wears off.

And it should be. Because this way new players can improve, learn and make some progress as they get better and better.

Currently, they go to hotjoin, grind rank, can earn r80 faster than from tournaments and will still play like r1 PvE dudes.

Parisalchuk.9230:

Gandarel.5091:

All they need is a GW2 version of Heroes’ Ascent. Basically you don’t split the que to 10 different gamemodes and maps, they make 1 que, with a progressive tourament with lots of gamemodes and maps where consecutive wins get you further, with a goal to get to the Hall of Heroes. – this way we get variety, a goal to play for, community won’t split and everyone is happy

Keep conquest as the e-sport scene, but give something for those who came to play an MMO, or came from a game without what you couldn’t be here (GW1).

Almost all HM maps turned into death match rather than actually playing the game mechanic. There were only a few (though yes, there were some) that were not death match. Even GvG was dominated by death match.

Why is it that GW1 true PvP (Not FA/JQ) which focused on death match get the pass and used as the shining example of PvP and GW2 is crucified for 1 game type.

Exactly. Conquest is like a smaller evrsion of AB, and AB wasn’t even considered Pvp by the players.

Their only reason to abandon deathmatch was that 2 sides were just watching each other without starting the fight, then everyone just popped his elite… well, lock the elite skills, and palce some kind of commune points on the map, or throw in a flag to both starter areas, and if someone takes the flag to the middle of the map, they can use their elite skills.
Both problems solved, because you will want to use your elite skill. Not perfect, but took me 0.2 seconds to come up with this…

All they need is a GW2 version of Heroes’ Ascent. Basically you don’t split the que to 10 different gamemodes and maps, they make 1 que, with a progressive tourament with lots of gamemodes and maps where consecutive wins get you further, with a goal to get to the Hall of Heroes. – this way we get variety, a goal to play for, community won’t split and everyone is happy

Keep conquest as the e-sport scene, but give something for those who came to play an MMO, or came from a game without what you couldn’t be here (GW1).

kito.1827:

Gandarel.5091:

You can turn off the option to gain rank points in your arena.

But to sustain a CA is expensive, and if you don’t add time for 2 weeks they delete your item that costed you 1.6k gems. Cute, isn’t it? And this is not mentioned when you buy it.

customisation is nothing about gaining rank points, nor is this discussion about the costs of a custom arena. i know how it works and under certain circumstances (like tournament training/scrimmage matches) i feel the price is ok.

i want to keep this thread clean, so please no discussion but about the mentioned customisation options

“Individual point system: possibility to turn on/off any point givers in game (kill/treb shot/point cap/point def/ point nut/ mob kill/ guildlord kill/etc) but those would be minor priority.” – you wrote it, I answered.

You can turn off the option to gain rank points in your arena.

But to sustain a CA is expensive, and if you don’t add time for 2 weeks they delete your item that costed you 1.6k gems. Cute, isn’t it? And this is not mentioned when you buy it.

Ludovicus.7980:

Gandarel.5091:

If his body is just a shell and he can rebuild that, why did he do that beneath a sunken peninsula? omg..

Can’t believe you are still discussing this topic, it’s against every kind of logic and knowledge we got to work with..

The mouth and eye of Zhaitan isn’t actually the mouth and eye of zahitan.. just simple reanimated servants, the eyes being bodies from the royal house.

My theory is a little different. I say that the elder dragons do not fetch a new body for themselves.
I say that the elder dragons are an inevitable consequence of the existence of magic.
That so long as magic exists in Tyria, it will eventually take form in the elder dragons.
Of course that’s a process that takes thousands of years.
That’s why the order of whispers’ aim was to put them to sleep again, and not to destroy them.
The way I see it, we’ve put Zhaitan to sleep for another 10.000 years.

Putting him back to sleep with a magalaser that thore off some limbs. No.

Why can’t you accept that he is dead? Srsly. You overcomplicate this pretty plain and simple ‘story’ GW2 has.

Lord Trejgon.2809:

one thing get me interesting…
watchknights are some-kind-of-golem yes?
thay have a HEADS
(quoting professor Snaff “nobody is making golems with a head – except me”)

They are not Asuran tech, and do they look like asura golems? No. They aren’t golems.

If his body is just a shell and he can rebuild that, why did he do that beneath a sunken peninsula? omg..

Can’t believe you are still discussing this topic, it’s against every kind of logic and knowledge we got to work with..

The mouth and eye of Zhaitan isn’t actually the mouth and eye of zahitan.. just simple reanimated servants, the eyes being bodies from the royal house.

Well, i think so few people play tournaments nowadays that anyone who starts playing can get to the top 1k.

Yesterday I had a dps guard in my team (#yoloque) who was r13 and asking how to change traits. Actually, he is rank 500 on the leaderboards.

Not a smurf account, I’m sure. He just either got carried or ladder decay threw everything out of his way.

Hopefully this soloque split will bring back players. But some gamemodes would be better.. i was fine with conquest, but still very disappointed after GW1. Can you tell me just one MMo with only one Pvp mode? Devs tend to forget that this is an MMO..

Well.

1st: these are not fellblades, just some re-skin.

2nd: they don’t want to make HoM weapons look better than the most epic ones. but yeah, fellblade is just plain wrong now.

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

Queen’s Guantlet is 1v1 challenge against new bosses, not other players.

Solo queue is for 5v5 competitive PVP.

I’m not sure if you realize it, but conquest is boring. Are there any plans to actually implement pvp that is fun/watchable? Right now there are very few viewers, and mostly it’s because conquest is incredibly boring to watch.

We need a 1v1 arena.

How about doing a little experiment. Put in a team death match style pvp, and then let the players choose which one they want to keep DM or Conquest.

It took them 6 months to implement a soloque with the same gamemode and same maps. So basically the same thing we already have.

New gamemode that people actually enjoy or would expect after GW1? Forget it. Maybe 6-7 years later if they would start it today. But that’s unlikely.

Jamais vu.5284:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

Queen’s Guantlet is 1v1 challenge against new bosses, not other players.

Solo queue is for 5v5 competitive PVP.

Can you tell us what steps you undertook to prevent syncing? This was a massive problem back in RA times.

In RA, if you failed a sync, you just restarted. Here if you fail a sync, one of you will lose rating for sure. So if you will try to sync and fail it occassionally, you won’t get to the top 1,000. Never.

I don’t think each dragon would bring another playeable race… Gw1 had only 1, 5 is a bit too large step forward already.

Tengu has chances but nothing else.

Kodan are shamanistic spirituals just like the norns, they share the same territory and even voice acting. Also, players don’t like the too large races, statistically speaking, when the last survey came out norn was the far less playable race, and the charr was only a bit higher in population.

Largos – basically newer to the lore than the sylvari, and considering that everyone hates underwater combat and they would have to make all largos areas to be underwater, not likely. Also, they are main assassin, so many of the classes wouldn’t make sense and could just destroy what a largos is. Engineering largos underwater? eh..

Sunni.2948:

Its sad to admit but spvp is just not fun. Its too much of a zergfest with no thought on gameplay. Its toxic. There has got to be ideas to improve this like a better point allocation ect. The problem with all of Pvp besides balance is the attitude of the general pvper. There is no cooperation, no incentive to play smart. This lack of cordination translates to Tpvp when noobs are rolling kids in spvp running with a zerg and they decide to try tourneys out. The end result is a shallow pvp experience for most of the population that plays and puts many people off. PvP needs not only a mathematical rework but also a conceptual/attitude rework.

Stop playing hotjoin.

What if.. dragon are actually the good guys. It’s the propaganda that shows them as evil, governments are hunting them down just to make a celebration about their defeat.

To prevent this, the dragons sent out their minions to plunder treasures from Tyria, then they fill giant chests with what they found and send them to leaders of all races with a champion as a peace offering. Unfortunatelly, we are so bloody handed that we always slaughter the mailman before he could reach his destination.

All makes sense now.

Ayrilana.1396:

I’m pretty sure both fractals will not be as amazing as people think. Just look at the ones we have now. None of them really tell a story.

Because those fractals are there for the purpose to show that everything can happen in the mists, or just to create mystery.

But this one will be created to tell a story.

Or maybe Roxx = charr reprsentative

Braham = Norn representative

Rezz.8019:

It took them a year to add RA. I hope they’ll add HA and GvG as well at some point in the future, and automated tourneys. Is Anet finally starting to realize that GW1 PvP model was the best?
I just hope syncing in RA (solo queue arena) won’t be possible like it was in GW1. And that you won’t be able to see who is in your roster until the match actually starts.

I think they will learn this the hard way and will be forced by the playerbase to implement those modes.

Btw i don’t think you will find too much syncers. In GW1, if sync failed, you both just left after the match.

But here if you fail it, one of you will lose rating for sure. This may discourage most of the possible syncers.

AcidicVision.5498:

Ok just checked and the event page says:

“We’re adding support for permanent Finishers! With this release, you’ll be able to sort through your available Finishers and choose the one you’d like to use as a default. Change your mind and change your Finisher! "

Looks like the people that like to hang on to one of each for special occasions or just to collect them are in luck. I wonder if the finisher is consumed after you choose it, making it impossible to pick again if you only had one, or if the finisher is “learned” so you only have to have one to ever switch to it.

I really like this addition. Makes me wish you could Finish champs in PvE

I take this as: if you are rank 30, you can purchase a permanent rabbit, deer, dolyak or wolf finisher from glory (available finishers), while the rest (like the thorn and tombstone) are for any rank from the gemstore.

Or we get a menu for finishers, they remove all temporary rank finishers and make them an unlocked option to set it whenever we want it.

Lord Trejgon.2809:

Gandarel.5091:

kristof.7182:

So 1vs1 isn’t one players verus one player? It’s just like Random Arena in Guild Wars 2? And pug vs pug, not like today, where you can get a guild to fight?

Yes, solo queue is the RA of GW2.

fixed for ya

No need to fix it, a dev on the PvP forum part named it Solo Arena multiple times.

Magische Boek.2530:

i sure hope so, i still have 2 snowman finishers and 2 gift finishers on the bank

Btw I don’t know why do you think they will turn every single finisher you already have as a temporary one to a permanent one.

I’m 100% sure they won’t change items that are already in your inventory.

Cayenne.6809:

I run fractals on a regular basis and I played GW1. I have no interest in the abaddon fractal. I understand why others are but I just don’t.

I’d rather go for the new one of infinite possibilities than the classic gw1 one that will more than likely never be capable of living up to the magnitude of hype everyone is placing on it.

I will try to tell you once again. This is not the GW1 battle, this is the one where he gets defeated by the other gods. Mkay?

And we already have tons of asuran content, this could bring nothing new.

Totally agree. GW2 manifesto promised they will take everything, which is ofc cannot be true. But they too konly 4 things: name of the game, skill names, base lore (names, places) and the players. – almost everyx single GW1 Pvp player left after 2 weeks.

They told us they develop Pvp from the beginning – if 3 maps and 1 gamemode took 4-5 years, there’s no hope.

They told they need to make GW2 because GW1 engine if overdue and limited. Yet, if you ask them where’s the observer mode for top rated tournaments, they will tell that’s not possible due to engine limitations. While GW1 had it.

It’s becoming the new hello kitty online, with killing your enemies with a pony bow to make money for your panda hat, because you spent your gems on plush quaggan backpacks.

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Galtrix.7369:

Guild Wars 1: Killed Abaddon with my bare hands and it was a real accomplishment that warranted partying afterward.

Guild Wars 2: Killed Zhaitan with a cannon by spamming #1 while eating a taco in my right hand. No joke, I really was eating a taco while fighting Zhaitan.

There was no way I could have EVER been eating a taco and been able to defeat Abaddon. I had to be attentive and send my heroes to certain places where they could safely fight without getting steamrolled.

After Zhaitan, I didn’t feel like I accomplished anything except finishing my taco. After the 1st party update, I got bored and haven’t been back to GW2 since. I’m still waiting for an eventual update that will get me interested, but no update has got me even slightly interested in coming back to play yet.

I agree the Zhaitan battle was rather disappointing playwise – though not in terms of story/cutscenes imo – but Abbadon? That fight was interesting? Come on, don´t let your dislike of GW2 cloud your judgement. The only thing keeping it from being the stale “people hit stationary giant model on toes”-fight was the fact his face was at level due to a platform.

Well, he is talking about that the bossfight felt like anyone could do that, the last beggar from the streets of Divinity could take down the dragon for a bowl of soup.

It’s just that we were chosen to press a button.

Well, Primordus’ minions are all over Tyria from the maguuma through Kryta to the Shiverpeaks, so he is a global threat like Zhaitan was.

Also, Primordus can bring in the Tengu (destroyers are surfacng on both sides of their walls) and the Dwarves with the Deldrimor front.