Guild Wars 2

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/29lbtu/ranger_we_want_llama_pet/cim1gqz

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Cogbyrn.7283:

Hammerguard.9834:

What kind of junk response is this? It’s a combination of Dogged March and food that makes it absurd. You could have easily replaced Dogged March with food in your little “experiment” and gotten the same results. You can’t tell me 33% isn’t as big a hit to condi duration as 40%. Secondly, you think any warrior in WvW cares that you’re a condi heavily specced into condi duration? How many of you are there? Do you plan on slowing the warriors down all by your lonesome?

As for the Engineer, yes, they’re mostly ranged but they don’t have anything near the base stats or mobility skills that a warrior has built in to help them with that fact that they’re mostly melee. A warrior has 7 movement skills while an engineer has 3. Warriors also have more health and more armor than engineers. So is it fair that warriors get a better version of Leg Mods for cheaper? No.

I’ve slowed many Warriors down all by my lonesome. Unless they have Zerker Stance up, or run a useless Sword+Warhorn/GS build, odds are they can’t get away.

And do you start designing traits around what food exists, or should you design food around how the classes can build? My initial comparison was taking the game without food, because food is a buff that means nothing towards balance.

And where is slowing down a Warrior an issue? WvW.

Where isn’t it an issue? sPvP.

What doesn’t exist in sPvP? Food.

Why? Because it has nothing to do with class balance, it’s just there for your character to feel even stronger with PvE-style buffs.

That’s why I left it out. Also, your comments around Engi make me think you’re one of the people who say “Warriors get both the highest base health AND the highest base toughness? Imba.”. I think it’s perfectly fair that a Warrior gets Leg Mods for cheaper.

And I don’t take part in Class Pity Parties. Doing trait comparisons like that is a complete and total waste of time. It reminds me of when Necros complained about Incendiary Powder being the same as Dhuumfire for cheaper. Different class. Deal with it.

Tell me why it’s always the warrior that comes up when talking about mobility nerfs, genius? Did you forget that every class has access to the same foods? Take out food entirely and warrior still wins.

sPvP is a completely different beast where the focus lies in being able to stay in the fight and take out the enemies for capture points. Nobody cares if a warrior runs away in sPvP because it’s does them little good. If it did, they’d be a target for mobility nerfs there as well.

And guess what happened when engineers and necros had the same trait on different tiers? They were both changed. Expect the same of Leg Mods/Dogged March.

Cogbyrn.7283:

Hammerguard.9834:

Cogbyrn.7283:

Hammerguard.9834:

MarauderShields.6830:

The first step should be to reduce mobility strictly to engaging capability. The warrior is a melee archetype and needs means to keep close to his opponent. However, as of now, warrs can engage/disengage freely and better than many thief builds. I don’t think the Hit&Run gameplay fits the class.

One of the reasons warrior is so good at hit and run is because of their ability to reduce the duration of cripple, chill, and immobilize down by 98%. They would literally be getting nowhere otherwise.

And that, folks, is the fault of the food. Not the Warrior class.

Uh, no. Although condi duration food is broke as kittens, condi duration food + rune of melandrus gets warriors to a 65% decrease in condi duration for all conditions, then dogged march (warrior trait) brings warriors to a 98% duration decrease in cripple, chill, and immobilize while maintaining a 65% duration decrease in all other conditions.

EDIT: Fun fact; Dogged March (Warrior Adept Trait): 33% reduced duration to cripple, chill, and immobilize and regeneration when affected by one. Leg Mods (Engineer Master Trait): 33% reduced duration to cripple, chill, and immobilize… brilliant.

Without the food, Warriors can sit at -58% condi duration for cripple, chill, immob. I, for example, have 30% condi duration from traits and 10% condi duration from runes (to work against Melandru), leaving me at +40% condi duration. The net that a Warrior specced anti-condi duration against me for cripple, chill, and immob is -18%.

So a 5 second chill lasts 4.1 seconds. Considering how devastating chill/cripple/immob are to a Warrior, this feels about right to me. I still get duration, but the Warrior dedicated runes and traits to knocking it down, so that’s where I feel it should land.

Enter: Food. If I don’t use +40% duration food, the net is now -58%. For those playing the home game, that’s 3.2 times the reduction they would otherwise get without food. Now that 5 second chill is lasting 2.1 seconds, a full 2 seconds less than without food.

That adds up. And it’s primarily the fault of food.

I don’t need your anti-Warrior propaganda. I’ve crunched the numbers, and the real outlier is food in a WvW setting. Also, your fun fact proves nothing, which someone has already pointed out. An Engineer can still be doing damage at range with these control effects on them. A Warrior is often completely hosed if they are being kited with Chill/Cripple/Immob. If you don’t realize that, then you’ve very clearly never played one, especially not back before Cleansing Ire/the Zerker Stance change. I don’t even think Dogged March was a thing back then, but I could be misremembering.

What kind of junk response is this? It’s a combination of Dogged March and food that makes it absurd. You could have easily replaced Dogged March with food in your little “experiment” and gotten the same results. You can’t tell me 33% isn’t as big a hit to condi duration as 40%. Secondly, you think any warrior in WvW cares that you’re a condi heavily specced into condi duration? How many of you are there? Do you plan on slowing the warriors down all by your lonesome?

As for the Engineer, yes, they’re mostly ranged but they don’t have anything near the base stats or mobility skills that a warrior has built in to help them with that fact that they’re mostly melee. A warrior has 7 movement skills while an engineer has 3. Warriors also have more health and more armor than engineers. So is it fair that warriors get a better version of Leg Mods for cheaper? No.

F2 = AoE stability.

I hope that’s not sarcasm cause that cripple and chill can cause you to go less than half the distance you would normally with Lightning Reflexes. Then you die.

Charge – cures chilled, crippled, and immobilized.
Overcharged Shot – cures chilled, crippled, and immobilized.
Windborne Speed – cures chilled, crippled, and immobilized.
Withdraw – cures chilled, crippled, and immobilized.
Rocket Boots – cures chilled, crippled, and immobilized.
Roll for Initiative – cures chilled, crippled, and immobilized.
Lightning Reflexes – cures immobilized… so yeah, please?

Also, can Lick Wounds please full heal the pet when cast? Most of the time you’d rather wait for the pet to die so that he would start the res with full health.

And… unblockable Hunter’s Shot. kthx

PS: Completely off topic but can you stop zooming my camera in when I down, anet? It’s beyond annoying.

Cogbyrn.7283:

Hammerguard.9834:

MarauderShields.6830:

The first step should be to reduce mobility strictly to engaging capability. The warrior is a melee archetype and needs means to keep close to his opponent. However, as of now, warrs can engage/disengage freely and better than many thief builds. I don’t think the Hit&Run gameplay fits the class.

One of the reasons warrior is so good at hit and run is because of their ability to reduce the duration of cripple, chill, and immobilize down by 98%. They would literally be getting nowhere otherwise.

And that, folks, is the fault of the food. Not the Warrior class.

Uh, no. Although condi duration food is broke as kittens, condi duration food + rune of melandrus gets warriors to a 65% decrease in condi duration for all conditions, then dogged march (warrior trait) brings warriors to a 98% duration decrease in cripple, chill, and immobilize while maintaining a 65% duration decrease in all other conditions.

EDIT: Fun fact; Dogged March (Warrior Adept Trait): 33% reduced duration to cripple, chill, and immobilize and regeneration when affected by one. Leg Mods (Engineer Master Trait): 33% reduced duration to cripple, chill, and immobilize… brilliant.

So it’s just me? :/

It’s been happening a few times here and there since the most recent patches before this one and now it’s happening every few minutes…

MarauderShields.6830:

The first step should be to reduce mobility strictly to engaging capability. The warrior is a melee archetype and needs means to keep close to his opponent. However, as of now, warrs can engage/disengage freely and better than many thief builds. I don’t think the Hit&Run gameplay fits the class.

One of the reasons warrior is so good at hit and run is because of their ability to reduce the duration of cripple, chill, and immobilize down by 98%. They would literally be getting nowhere otherwise.

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This skill should be unblockable. Too often am I walking backwards after having used this skill wondering why they’re still hitting me. Dodges alone are enough of a prevention.

It’s a small price to pay.

It boggles my mind how many people aren’t just refining the mats. Every single bloodstone dust I ever gotten is sitting in my collectables tab, in one stack.

How is this thread still alive? Condi duration food is broken. /thread

Blix.8021:

Problem is any ranger trying to maximize his usefulness in a zerg is absolutely trash in a 1v1 scenario, so they’re just food for thieves or other roamers in 1v1 builds while they are out of the zerg.

This is very true. You could say it about any class but Rangers suffer the most. They have very poor versatility in their utilities and weapon skills.

Leave it the hell alone.

I love when a class can bring something completely unique to the table and this isn’t powerful enough to warrant a fix.

a t s e.9614:

The problem is that most rangers use bad builds in WvW and refuse to drop the bear and the longbow. Well a lot of people use bad builds in wvw but rangers have the worst of bad builds.

Zerker/PVT bearbow is like the easiest thing to kill.

You think it’s the players fault when they really have no other options. Longbow is without a doubt the best WvW weapon Rangers have and the pet choice doesn’t even matter much in zerg play.

I hate how everyone blames Rangers on bearbow when it’s just not true.

I never expected it to work with Barrage or Poison Volley. Everything else if fine though as long as the effect isn’t some huge fire explosion rather than a small shockwave.

I also never thought it could allow for AoE conditions but I don’t really see it being a problem either way. Last time I tried shortbow as a condi weapon, it was absolutely terrible. I’m sure most condi rangers would prefer sword, axe, torch, and dagger with traps.

Paavotar.3971:

Hammerguard.9834:

We shouldn’t be concerning ourselves with the specifics. I just want Anet to acknowledge the idea. It’s something that can really make Rangers part of WvW instead of the laughing stock.

“100% proc trait would be a bit too much.” Everything in the game can be balanced whether it activates on hit or on crit. You want to establish the concept and balance from there.

EDIT: I also want to add; your version of the trait is incredibly boring. Your just killing the whole idea. How I imagined it would function is: on hit, no internal cooldown (my biggest issue with your concept), 240 radius, and I’m thinking 25% damage done to main target is done to surrounding targets in range (3 target limit).

This is probably a bit much for Anet but a good starting point.

To be honest my only consern on the matter is the fact rangers have a trait that makes arrows pierce and the fact you want the trait to be on hit with 100% proc chance (as far as I understand what you want), which could make it a bit too strong situational.

Other than that it could be interesting skill for a ranger and the more I think about it would fit them better as an utility skill than a trait.

A utility skill would need to work with every weapon. This is specifically for bows.

Ropechef.6192:

shoot through or in or around a fire field?

equip a sigil of fire?

0.o

You did it! You saved Rangers. If only you got here sooner.

We shouldn’t be concerning ourselves with the specifics. I just want Anet to acknowledge the idea. It’s something that can really make Rangers part of WvW instead of the laughing stock.

“100% proc trait would be a bit too much.” Everything in the game can be balanced whether it activates on hit or on crit. You want to establish the concept and balance from there.

EDIT: I also want to add; your version of the trait is incredibly boring. Your just killing the whole idea. How I imagined it would function is: on hit, no internal cooldown (my biggest issue with your concept), 240 radius, and I’m thinking 25% damage done to main target is done to surrounding targets in range (3 target limit).

This is probably a bit much for Anet but a good starting point.

I wrote this in Profession Balance but I think it would do better here.

Give Rangers Ignite Arrow from GW1 as a trait in GW2. It would really help with their AoE problem while also keeping them single target focused which is what I think Anet intends them to be. Not that I’m asking for it to replace Read the Wind but I think Ignite Arrow would be more useful as well as fun.

I’m proud of you.

No matter the graphics, the general visibility of Kudzu is very low compared to other weapons. The fact that it’s a legendary makes it more odd.

“Best Appearance”:

So I just got Kudzu and it’s adorable and all but it has very low visibility. The only way I can tell who has a Kudzu is by following the flower trail because seeing the weapon itself is very hard from a distance. Doesn’t seem fitting for a legendary.

Can Rangers get Ignite Arrows from Guild Wars 1 as a trait? I think it would help them A LOT for WvW.

k cool thx

The Mistforge mace is by far the best mace skin in the game but I can’t bring myself to get it as I’m not a fan of mace skills.

Click on the target you want to stomp/res.

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The gem store armors are already getting out of hand. Stop being so hasty to throw stuff in there just because you’re desperate to get it.

I would also love to get my hands on the full set as I’ve only gotten two pieces as of yet. Hoping they will add them to the PvP rewards track similar to how they did the Balthazar back piece.

If you want to beat a good thief you’re going to need good reactions times. If you can’t do it then that’s on you.

It’s not like thieves have so much to offer; Going in and out with loads of damage as fast as they can. Take that away and they have nothing.

It happens about 50% of the time and it’s annoying as hell. I feel like it could have something to do with the terrain.

I’m hoping the ideas from that CDI will start kicking in soon. Maybe rangers can get a full balance patch all to themselves one day.

Oh, you wanted condi damage to do nothing to you? That makes sense. We have to be able to remove 100% condi damage or it’s broken.

Plz fiks, AyNet.

The problem with condi damage seeming so strong is the players. Either they’re running condi duration food and you’re not, you have extremely low vitality because you and everyone else thinks you only need toughness, or you aren’t running good condi cleanse. Then you come on the forums and cry about how condi is kittenting on you.

Turret engi – build: 2/2/6/2/2

Main thing is to cc and push her off you with rifle and accelerant-packed turrets trait.

Yeah, I would also like if the enchanted broom was usable in WvW as well. Which one of the toys caused issues in WvW that lead to Anet banning all toys instead of just the ones causing issues…………..? :/

Briadonis.8907:

If there is a problem I personally understand the complexities of computer software and there being an issue… however it hard for me to see what the issue is exactly. They have just said they “identified the issue” … which generally means they know what went wrong… and that means they have an idea of how to fix it.

I am sure they have database snapshots to show who was on what server at the end of the tournament. They have records showing who completed the meta. It should be dead simple to send out a new set of tickets. Even if they can’t identify who already received them, just make a new token and remove the old ones. Is there some other complexity that I am missing?

Customers being left in the dark like this makes Anet look kind of incompetent even though they clearly are not for making such an incredible game, but the impression it leaves is rather disturbing. I think if the problem was a bit more clearly explained people would be more willing to give Anet time to deal with the problem.

Well resolving the issue that way should be incredibly easy but it would also be kind of embarrassing don’t you think? Taking over a week to find out how to identify who hasn’t gotten tickets, then just scrapping them because it was too hard or took too long.

Ark Bladesteele.2943:

Engineers can use rifles, so you have The Predator, which is pretty kitten awesome as rifles go. It’ll probably be the next Legendary I make.

The problem with that is The Predators a sniper rifle while engineers user rifles as shotguns. Using a sniper like a shotgun is just stupid. Then you have The Flameseeker Prophecies which is basically exclusively for guardians which, ironically, have the worst shield skills of all the classes. Last is troll legendary, Quip.

If any legendary could use a boost it’s Kudzu; And I’m not saying throw some rainbow auras around it or add zebra matting calls when it shoots, but the weapon itself could use some better textures or something.

Seriously, I just was just thinking about this today. There are so many vocal players crying for brighter, louder, more obnoxious legendaries when there are thousands of mature players who prefer a little subtlety and class. I myself thought it was a joke when players were saying that the re-skinned Ascalonian legendaries actually looked good. I prefer style and design over bright, ugly, spastic lights and noises.

Now that’s not to say I’m oppose to change. Just don’t go overboard, please.

I would actually like if Whirling Defense allowed for some movment speed. Maybe 25%?

Love the Hunters Call change. That skill is currently just not good enough to be used in rotation.

I know what you’re talking about. The projectile comes out where the character is facing but it still forces you to aim the center of your camera at the target for the vertical projection. This is the only skill in the entire game that requires such awkward aiming. You can’t expect me to believe it was intended, especially since it behaves differently depending on the skill used to cast it.

So yes, you found a workaround to make it work but that doesn’t mean it’s any less bugged.

I’m fine with it being a “skillshot” such as flame blast or burning speed, it’s when the game forces me to play it like an FPS when it’s clearly not meant to be played as such.

PS: Groundtargetted skills don’t give a kitten where my camera’s facing and neither do the mentioned “skillshot”.

All the situations you talk about are full offense; Full zerker, strongest pet, when you fail to mention that you’re sacrificing any form of AoE or survivability in which case, yes, the pet should absolutely be doing absurdly good damage. If a persons literally able to walk to remove 50% or more of the damage a pet provides, there’s a serious problem.

I also fail to see how the players choice of weapon should have any effect on the pet choice or pet effectiveness. Logically there’s nothing that support this, and from a game design standpoint it’s 100% incorrect. The weapon changes nothing in how effective the pet is in reaching and dealing damage to the target. I’ve had plenty of cases where I’d be chasing a target and my pet is just running along behind me, longbow or greatsword. The pet doesn’t just magically appear on the targets kitten if I leap over to them. It’s also worth mentioning, greatsword is the only real gap closer ranger have, and by your logic greatsword is the only weapon where rangers should be using melee pets.

Now you’re going to tell me that the majority of the GW2 community “don’t know how to play” and you’re in the right?

I see so many people asking for pets to be optional or completely removed from Rangers when a better solution would be making pets good. Pets are non-threatening and that’s the main problem. Send a pet after a real player and all they need to do is walk to be able to reduce the pets damage by 50% or more. Pet are slow, their movement speed is slow and their skill have too long a cast time and are way too small scale. Get pets to be something a player might actually fear and I think they would be in a much better state than they are now.

Lol, right? Power engineers are in one of the worst states of the game right behind Rangers. They don’t need bugged skills and traits to be classified as, “intended”.

What kinda joke thread is? As if turrets and power engis weren’t kittenty enough.

Engineer definitely needs more work than Ele, though. I just hope that Ranger get massive buffs because they really deserve it.

This turret build I’m using could actually become viable and extremely fun if it worked.